So ahead of their time. This is modern hockey but all these guys have chemistry together and are completely bought in to the same style of play. Greatest hockey team of all-time, beautiful to watch.
We in western Europe saw the Canadians and Americans as are allies and friends. When it came to hockey, most of us (even rivals of them like Fins and Swedes) saw them as heroes and artists. I have never thought of North American Ice hockey teams and players as artists. Exceptions aside. Gretzky, Messier, Mario....Fantastic. But I never saw anyone with the skills of Kharlamov or Makarov. The soviets were a great collective but the superstrength was that this collective did not make the individual suffer...on the pitch that is...
It amazes me. If any youth hockey players attempted this stuff and failed, immediate benching. On the Krutov goal, Makarov gets a break, pulls up brings the puck out of the zone, finds Krutov and they score. Now, every coach just wants the puck in deep.
100% true. Thank you for the idea and video. Russians play was like a real masterpiece. When the USSR collapsed lot of players went to NHL and the superior club of the National team- CSKA ( Central Army club ) had not consequently been able to be together for 11 months. So the quality and real picture changed.
The irony now is Russians are so individually skilled without the team aspect. Look no further than vs Canada in 2010. Russia has a tremendous team on paper but unlike the Soviet era, couldn't play together to save their olympic dreams. Canada ironically is the team that switches to a team first approach, and they pulverize a relatively evenly matched team in terms of star power.
That and their defense is not NHL caliber, players out of Russia have to be exceptional forwards to get noticed. It’s crazy to me that on an Olympic roster there are players on team Russia playing along the likes of Ovechkin who never played an NHL game
Gretzky was the best Canadian player, obviously with the exception of Lemiex, and he would have fit in beautifully with that system. Makarov and Gretzky together would have been utter perfection.
Training together 11 months of the year. Playing together from a young age within the same club structure. Being able to hand pick the best possible players without competition from other clubs. Coupled with innovations in athletic training and not having the specter of having a long hockey tradition before the 1950s, the Red Army team could execute a unique and highly skilled brand of the game. No wonder the Red Army team was as dominant as they were. Since the collapse of the Soviet system the Russians have not been able to maintain the same dominance. This should be enough evidence that it was more than just the system that made the Red Army team so successful.
Since the rise of multiculturalism in the U.S, you slew-footed Franks and Anglos are genetically disappearing while more superior, colored athletes are filling the ranks. You guys have always been talentless head hunters with no rhythm, finesse and two left feet. You set the rules of the game. When your opponent beats you soundly, you suddenly change the rules by resorting to violence and barbarism. Violence isn't just your culture, it's in your genes. To add salt on the wound, you dress up your bloody ways with propaganda and revisionism. Clarke's breaking of Karlamov's ankle forever tainted the North American legacy. We beat you soundly in every single international competition and olympics. When you assholes claimed that we couldn't beat you playing in the NHL, we created the NHL VS series where we once again, handed you your asses! We made easy work of your Gretzky (Also Slavic) and your faggoty-ass, "high octane" Edmonton Oilers. As far as Russian Hockey not being as good as it was; true. But don't disillusion yourself flat-footed North American White man; your brand of goon hockey was never good to begin with. Also note that Mogilny, Kovalev, Bure, Fedorov and the record setting Russian 5 of Detroit (62-10-10) proves we are still a superior race of people that thoroughly fucking own you anglos and franks at this game. When I ask you who the top names in the NHL currently are, you shall be a good North American excuse maker and bigot by answering; Ovehkin, Datsyuk, Tarasenko, Malkin and Kuznetsov to name a few. You were saying you Canadian bacon?
+M Jam There were 2 games at Rendevous '87, both teams won 1. There was similar series in 1979 called Challenge Cup, USSR won deciding 3rd game 6-0. Canada Cup results were various and always close and sometimes controversial and of course all of them took place in NA. Canada had and has great players and probably more of them than anyone but Canadian system didn't teach much creativity, it was absolutely on individual players talent. Thanks to the fact that Canada had and has 7 times more indoor rinks and thus 7 times more players than for example USSR they could easily find some gem talents who go against the system (and that's also the reason why Canadian players were quite bigger on average). But for smaller countries Canadian system doesn't work that well because they don't have many players playing the game as Canada does so they cannot find those gems. In USSR they were making gems, in Canada they were finding them thanks to the very high access to the sport.
In order to develop and find the best kids to recruit into the national program (Red Army Sports Club), the outdoor rinks of the USSR were perfectly adequate and far more numerous than Canada's. The USSR had ten times the number of kids to choose from. Your theory therefore has no basis whatsoever.
MultiCappie Outdoor training is a poor substitution for indoor training. Professional training (that kids should receive) happens indoor (including getting free gear, pro coaches etc), organized hockey takes place indoor. If you have no (or very limited number of) indoor rinks in your city then what you do skating outdoor is irrelevant, you are not going anywhere. Russia has about as many indoor rinks as Sweden (~400 something). But Sweden has them on compact area. Russia has them spread through several time zones which makes it hard for the best kids to play each other on the consistent basis. It's not that smooth with hockey in Russia. _and far more numerous than Canada's_ I don't know what's the deal with outdoor rinks in Canada. Maybe USSR had more of them I don't know, but it is irrelevant when you have so many indoor rinks from where you can start your steps in organized hockey. _The USSR had ten times the number of kids to choose from._ It's like saying China has 100 more kids to choose from. Too bad those kids have no place to go. I live in a city with 1 million population, we have here 2 or 3 indoor rinks. In similar sized Canadian city it would be hundreds of rinks.
No, the director of Soviet hockey development confirmed there were over a million boys in hockey around 1990, while in Canada the number was actually just over 200,000. My bad, only quintuple the number, but the point remains. And no again, when you're talking all the kids under Bantam age, outdoor rinks are fine. The kids are lighter and do less damage to the ice, and young enough that if they demonstrate raw talent they can be recruited into the Russian or Soviet national program. Most Canadian boys and girls start mostly on outdoor rinks as well, but a larger ratio without talent can afford the indoor arenas for their after-school hobby.
_MultiCappie__ and young enough that if they demonstrate raw talent they can be recruited into the Russian or Soviet national program._ Where do they suppose to demonstrate it? Sorry, but playing hockey in some yard is not enough, no one will see you there. If you want to make it you have to reach some hockey school (which situated indoor obviously), that's how it works in Russia. Usually parents bring their kids to hockey school and as you understand there is limited number of such schools thus limited number of kids can get there. Kids from other part of the city might be blocked because not everyone would be willing to travel an hour or more every morning to the rink like Bobrovsky did for example. _“Hockey is always number one for Sergei - I saw this when he started training. We were short of rinks and often had to schedule practice at __6:30__ a.m. His family lived at the opposite end of the city and it took him an hour to get to the rink. _*_Many dropped out for this reason_*_ but Sergei was committed to the game."_ rbth.com/articles/2012/11/08/sergei_bobrovsky_columbus_blue_jackets_19805.html _No, the director of Soviet hockey development confirmed there were over a million boys in hockey around 1990_ 1 million? I don't believe that for a second. If somehow there was one million they surely couldn't apply themselves further in hockey since there were not enough indoor rinks to test them further.
You're correct that most of that million should be under 14, but I don't care if you believe me or not. Look it up if it's possible. Most kids in Canada drop out around grades 6 to 8 exactly the same, but like I said, a larger proportion than in Russia can afford to keep paying for their teenagers to play on artificial ice, despite the fact they clearly aren't going anywhere talent-wise. Those kids clog up the indoor rinks, but it's well known that if they miss the Bantam Draft that they will not get into any level of pro hockey. It's a completely different class of player - "middle class hockey recreationals" but _not_ the development track.
On a side note.....It might be the Soviets were inspired byt the Dutch football team which introduced totalfootball. Individual skills and a complete team playing everyhwere on the field with the same intensity. Defenders moving up when needed to the attack others getting rheir place. I am not saying it is, but your remark on how the Soviets worked sounds a lot like 1974 Dutch totallfootball...
well, not really. this system was in place long before the 1974 dutch team played. The 80s soviet team was not better than the teams they had in the 70s. the 70s teams had tretiak, for one thing. tretiak, the greatest goalie ever.
@@cinnaminson0653 Yes, and players such as Michalov, Petrov and Charlamov etc in the 70s , Soviet hockey was good already in 1960s with players like Firsov and Starshinov.
Check out the Soviet Goals of their Fourth Goal during Game 2 of The Rendezvous series against the NHL in February 1987 and their Second Goal against the United States during the 1980 Winter Olympics. See the Soviet Pass the Puck to Himself off the Skate of their Opponents while His Teammate directly on the Other Side is the Decoy Man to Lure their Opponents Vision towards Him. I saw the Soviets score several Goals using this Tactic and this was one of the Creative ways they would Compensate for Coverage !!!
The Soviets broke down every aspect of the game: from individual skills, to overall team-play. They studied it all, reduced it to subcomponents, refined it, and developed their players under that umbrella. One key thing a lot of people don't think about is the underlying motivation to the players. This was military service for the Soviet players. If you got the opportunity to get into the hockey program, you had two options: Option One was to excel and remain within the hockey program. Option Two was to fail, and maybe end up in some infantry unit in Siberia: getting frostbitten ears or toes. Herb Brooks could skate the 80 Team all he wanted to in order to punish failure. Trying not to lose appendages to the cold is a whole new level of negative reinforcement.
Commenting on old comments but had to, soviets played together and could develop and execute their artist's style. Can they do it now of course not. They are like Canada in the 70s 80s. Of course a team that stuck together since they were juniors year round day after day would score fantastic goals. Canada had individuals with super skill but was hard to mesh into a team in such a short time as a tournament. These comments are ridiculous. Remember lemeiux in 83 world championships or Yzerman in 88 89. They single handedly brought down the ussr setting the chmapsionships on fire. But they didn't have the luxury of a team like ussr with them year round. Different team strategy for different cultures.
It was 1985 for Lemieux but they still lost to CSSR. Nevertheless during the biggest Soviet domination in the late 70s and early 80s the Canadians mostly played their club level line ups. It's a lie to claim what you claimed. Also all of the young Russians eventually became stars like Bure Fedorov Ovechkin Malkin etc. so it wasn't just "memorized teamplay" and no skill.
right and who won the Canada Cup or Rendevous '87? I love Russian players and style but it's not the most successful style by any means. And to suggest players on the Canadian team were not creative um.. Gretzky, Lemieux, Messier, Coffey, Hawerchuck, Ray Bourque to name a few were fantastic and creative offensive talents
the nhl did not win rendez-vous 87. they were actually outscored by one goal over the two games. I have to give Canada great credit for winning in 84 and 87 but let's remember that they WERE AT HOME. that is a rather important fact. and, the soviet teams were making very little money while playing against millionaires. so, let's have some perspective. sure, I know that the soviets were in reality professionals. it weas a joke that they played in the Olympics. another fact that may be of interest is that the soviet club teams won the vast majority of the games vs nhl teams from 76-91.
good point _ I forgot it was a 2 game series. Soviet coach Viktor Tikhonov made no claim to victory. "The NHL didn't win and neither did we, the person that won was hockey itself. Both games were like holidays, like festivals, two of the greatest hockey games you'll ever see.
M Jam4 years ago (edited)right and who won the Canada Cup ----- in 1981 ?? hehe on serous note, Canada cup was on smaller rink, and not friendly people around and judge's bias!!! anyway. 65 56 65 i would SAY IT WAS draw!!!!!!!!! and best hockey all time!!!!!!
er that they WERE AT HOME. that is a rather ------ more important. size of rink!! on europe size of rinks it would have been murder!!!!!!! by USSR!!!!!!!
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The so-called "Soviet System" was to hothouse the best players they could find, train and practice them together as a team daily for literally years basically behind bars, and then try to showcase them against the World. This Canadian "team" had less than a week to practice together, some of the players hated each other, and they still actually won this series. They won because they played for the love of the game, sportsmanship, and country. Not coercion at gunpoint. Big shout out to Grant Fuhr destroying half of these hand-picked so-called highlights. Best goalie in World history. And to team Canada of course who inconveniently-for-the-director actually won the series.
+MultiCappie на самом деле выбор был не из огромного количества людей как ты думаешь, а скорее из предпочтений тренера, и кстати тренировка у них была очень очень жестокая
??? Butthurt? From all the winning? lol. But I do respect the _great_ players of this country of this era or any other country/era. Not much respect for Tikhonov, I'll admit, or the "win at all costs" approach (I'm no fan of Bobby Clarke either, if you really want to know.) I watched the movie when it came to Edmonton, and I think what you misaccused me of could more accurately be applied to the movie director -- of disrespecting the greatness of the Oilers and of Team Canada of this same era. I suppose he had a story to tell, but it was far from balanced. As I mentioned, the Oiler-laden Team Canada portrayed here actually won the series, and the beautifully executed Tarasovian brilliance still failed to put the puck past Grant Fuhr, yet it's portrayed that the Soviets somehow dominated.
One more thing: The best team in the history of hockey was the Edmonton Oilers 1987-88. Not the longest lived, it's hard to keep it together when you're a small City instead of the seat of an empire, but definitely the best. All this talk of the Red Army five, but the Oilers _second_ line_ was Mark Messier, Glenn Anderson, Craig Simpson, with the second D-pair Steve Smith and Jeff Beukeboom, and the second goalie Bill Ranford. The Red Army was strong on the opening lineup, but would have been run ragged by the Oilers tag-team.
+Kaiser Lol. No. The Oilers are the only team that ever scored over 400 goals in a season, but they did it _5_ _years_ _in_ _a_ _row_. The top, second, third, fourth _and_ fifth scoring players in the NHL playoffs are _all_ Oilers. _Both_ the top two regular season scorers are Oilers. This is not a criticism of the Soviets/Red Wings, but even if their teamwork was likely superior, they were only slightly better than their era. The Oilers cast such a shadow that everybody even forgot the Islanders, which should never happen to 4X champions. They caused the largest NHL expansion in history. All without the privilege of empire.
+DeloreaN DMC Perhaps you're right, but even this documentary shows the early age recruiting camps of Tarasov. I'm saying Canadian kids don't get any contact with pro teams until they're 18.
Да ну, чушь. Вторая тройка Хомутов-Быков-Каменский мало чем уступала КЛМ. Гретцки бы закрыли наглухо, как бы канадцы с ним не носились, а вот Мессье доставил бы массу проблем
Canada playing ANY team in the world on equal terms wins 9 out of ten games, could you imagine what this team Canada could do if they played together like the Red Army were FORCED to? This was a Canadian all star team that had little little time together. The Soviets NEVER played in a game that they didn't go into without a tremendous advantage. All their wins in the world championships and Olympics were against very poor competition.
Not true, they had the longest unbeaten runs in international hockey. The Soviets played most of their games away from the USSR more than any other side in the history of the sport. Would the North American teams won as much travelling to the USSR, not a chance. The Soviets didn't win everything, but they were the most consistent international team ever. I have not seen any team play with the artistry of the Soviet team since, and I've watched a lot of hockey.
Not true at all, the Soviets may not have won every game, but they were not afraid of anyone either, they toured and played everyone, countries and clubs alike, who else were they to play? Nobody, so over a period of consistency and longevity, they did play the best, and beat the best, by playing the best hockey.
# Soviet Style cause Crosby plays hockey , ovi is just shooter, good one!! but no better than Brett hull cups : crosby 3 - ovi 1 who played batter in playoffs? ------ you seems American you like individuals records, i am Russian, i like team records!!!!!
digital warfare29 minutes ago@alex west True but poor Mcdavid right? ------- i heard about him. did not watch much!!! he never played in playoffs yet. may be next season!!!!!!! need keep an eye on him!!!!!!!
So ahead of their time. This is modern hockey but all these guys have chemistry together and are completely bought in to the same style of play. Greatest hockey team of all-time, beautiful to watch.
Best hockey ever played, no doubt. Simply perfect 🤩🤩🤩
We in western Europe saw the Canadians and Americans as are allies and friends. When it came to hockey, most of us (even rivals of them like Fins and Swedes) saw them as heroes and artists. I have never thought of North American Ice hockey teams and players as artists. Exceptions aside. Gretzky, Messier, Mario....Fantastic. But I never saw anyone with the skills of Kharlamov or Makarov. The soviets were a great collective but the superstrength was that this collective did not make the individual suffer...on the pitch that is...
Great film Gabe. The greatest influence on my hockey development was the Soviet teams of 1972 and beyond. They played like it was a clinic.
It amazes me. If any youth hockey players attempted this stuff and failed, immediate benching. On the Krutov goal, Makarov gets a break, pulls up brings the puck out of the zone, finds Krutov and they score. Now, every coach just wants the puck in deep.
I got to see them play The LA Kings in Dec. 1985. Watching their skill level was incredible.
I can't wait to see this movie.
With Anatoly Tarasov an Ice Hockey game became a work of art
Beautiful! Hockey at its essence!
Да,были люди в наше время!!!
Much respect to the Soviet people!
Soviet Hockey, best of the History !
Herb Brooks said “all star teams fail because they rely on individual talent.”
100% true. Thank you for the idea and video. Russians play was like a real masterpiece. When the USSR collapsed lot of players went to NHL and the superior club of the National team- CSKA ( Central Army club ) had not consequently been able to be together for 11 months. So the quality and real picture changed.
Central Spolt Club Army!
The irony now is Russians are so individually skilled without the team aspect. Look no further than vs Canada in 2010. Russia has a tremendous team on paper but unlike the Soviet era, couldn't play together to save their olympic dreams. Canada ironically is the team that switches to a team first approach, and they pulverize a relatively evenly matched team in terms of star power.
That and their defense is not NHL caliber, players out of Russia have to be exceptional forwards to get noticed. It’s crazy to me that on an Olympic roster there are players on team Russia playing along the likes of Ovechkin who never played an NHL game
im a new hockey gfan
i can see some of this quick telepathic playing employed by some of the KHL teams that play today
Masterpieces. Masterpiece video too
AWESOME LOVED THEM !
The Russians played fantasticov hockeyonov.
Gretzky was the best Canadian player, obviously with the exception of Lemiex, and he would have fit in beautifully with that system. Makarov and Gretzky together would have been utter perfection.
Кубок канады 1987 году выиграл судья Кохарски. Браво судья!
Training together 11 months of the year. Playing together from a young age within the same club structure. Being able to hand pick the best possible players without competition from other clubs. Coupled with innovations in athletic training and not having the specter of having a long hockey tradition before the 1950s, the Red Army team could execute a unique and highly skilled brand of the game. No wonder the Red Army team was as dominant as they were. Since the collapse of the Soviet system the Russians have not been able to maintain the same dominance. This should be enough evidence that it was more than just the system that made the Red Army team so successful.
Since the rise of multiculturalism in the U.S, you slew-footed Franks and Anglos are genetically disappearing while more superior, colored athletes are filling the ranks. You guys have always been talentless head hunters with no rhythm, finesse and two left feet. You set the rules of the game. When your opponent beats you soundly, you suddenly change the rules by resorting to violence and barbarism. Violence isn't just your culture, it's in your genes. To add salt on the wound, you dress up your bloody ways with propaganda and revisionism. Clarke's breaking of Karlamov's ankle forever tainted the North American legacy. We beat you soundly in every single international competition and olympics. When you assholes claimed that we couldn't beat you playing in the NHL, we created the NHL VS series where we once again, handed you your asses! We made easy work of your Gretzky (Also Slavic) and your faggoty-ass, "high octane" Edmonton Oilers. As far as Russian Hockey not being as good as it was; true. But don't disillusion yourself flat-footed North American White man; your brand of goon hockey was never good to begin with. Also note that Mogilny, Kovalev, Bure, Fedorov and the record setting Russian 5 of Detroit (62-10-10) proves we are still a superior race of people that thoroughly fucking own you anglos and franks at this game. When I ask you who the top names in the NHL currently are, you shall be a good North American excuse maker and bigot by answering; Ovehkin, Datsyuk, Tarasenko, Malkin and Kuznetsov to name a few. You were saying you Canadian bacon?
Yes yes bla bla bla they used this stile becouse they smart skill and creative and they would be better you In any case
+M Jam There were 2 games at Rendevous '87, both teams won 1. There was similar series in 1979 called Challenge Cup, USSR won deciding 3rd game 6-0. Canada Cup results were various and always close and sometimes controversial and of course all of them took place in NA.
Canada had and has great players and probably more of them than anyone but Canadian system didn't teach much creativity, it was absolutely on individual players talent. Thanks to the fact that Canada had and has 7 times more indoor rinks and thus 7 times more players than for example USSR they could easily find some gem talents who go against the system (and that's also the reason why Canadian players were quite bigger on average). But for smaller countries Canadian system doesn't work that well because they don't have many players playing the game as Canada does so they cannot find those gems. In USSR they were making gems, in Canada they were finding them thanks to the very high access to the sport.
In order to develop and find the best kids to recruit into the national program (Red Army Sports Club), the outdoor rinks of the USSR were perfectly adequate and far more numerous than Canada's. The USSR had ten times the number of kids to choose from.
Your theory therefore has no basis whatsoever.
MultiCappie Outdoor training is a poor substitution for indoor training. Professional training (that kids should receive) happens indoor (including getting free gear, pro coaches etc), organized hockey takes place indoor. If you have no (or very limited number of) indoor rinks in your city then what you do skating outdoor is irrelevant, you are not going anywhere. Russia has about as many indoor rinks as Sweden (~400 something). But Sweden has them on compact area. Russia has them spread through several time zones which makes it hard for the best kids to play each other on the consistent basis. It's not that smooth with hockey in Russia.
_and far more numerous than Canada's_
I don't know what's the deal with outdoor rinks in Canada. Maybe USSR had more of them I don't know, but it is irrelevant when you have so many indoor rinks from where you can start your steps in organized hockey.
_The USSR had ten times the number of kids to choose from._
It's like saying China has 100 more kids to choose from. Too bad those kids have no place to go. I live in a city with 1 million population, we have here 2 or 3 indoor rinks. In similar sized Canadian city it would be hundreds of rinks.
No, the director of Soviet hockey development confirmed there were over a million boys in hockey around 1990, while in Canada the number was actually just over 200,000.
My bad, only quintuple the number, but the point remains.
And no again, when you're talking all the kids under Bantam age, outdoor rinks are fine. The kids are lighter and do less damage to the ice, and young enough that if they demonstrate raw talent they can be recruited into the Russian or Soviet national program.
Most Canadian boys and girls start mostly on outdoor rinks as well, but a larger ratio without talent can afford the indoor arenas for their after-school hobby.
_MultiCappie__ and young enough that if they demonstrate raw talent they can be recruited into the Russian or Soviet national program._
Where do they suppose to demonstrate it? Sorry, but playing hockey in some yard is not enough, no one will see you there. If you want to make it you have to reach some hockey school (which situated indoor obviously), that's how it works in Russia. Usually parents bring their kids to hockey school and as you understand there is limited number of such schools thus limited number of kids can get there. Kids from other part of the city might be blocked because not everyone would be willing to travel an hour or more every morning to the rink like Bobrovsky did for example.
_“Hockey is always number one for Sergei - I saw this when he started training. We were short of rinks and often had to schedule practice at __6:30__ a.m. His family lived at the opposite end of the city and it took him an hour to get to the rink. _*_Many dropped out for this reason_*_ but Sergei was committed to the game."_
rbth.com/articles/2012/11/08/sergei_bobrovsky_columbus_blue_jackets_19805.html
_No, the director of Soviet hockey development confirmed there were over a million boys in hockey around 1990_
1 million? I don't believe that for a second. If somehow there was one million they surely couldn't apply themselves further in hockey since there were not enough indoor rinks to test them further.
You're correct that most of that million should be under 14, but I don't care if you believe me or not. Look it up if it's possible.
Most kids in Canada drop out around grades 6 to 8 exactly the same, but like I said, a larger proportion than in Russia can afford to keep paying for their teenagers to play on artificial ice, despite the fact they clearly aren't going anywhere talent-wise. Those kids clog up the indoor rinks, but it's well known that if they miss the Bantam Draft that they will not get into any level of pro hockey.
It's a completely different class of player - "middle class hockey recreationals" but _not_ the development track.
On a side note.....It might be the Soviets were inspired byt the Dutch football team which introduced totalfootball. Individual skills and a complete team playing everyhwere on the field with the same intensity. Defenders moving up when needed to the attack others getting rheir place. I am not saying it is, but your remark on how the Soviets worked sounds a lot like 1974 Dutch totallfootball...
well, not really. this system was in place long before the 1974 dutch team played. The 80s soviet team was not better than the teams they had in the 70s. the 70s teams had tretiak, for one thing. tretiak, the greatest goalie ever.
@@cinnaminson0653 Yes, and players such as Michalov, Petrov and Charlamov etc in the 70s , Soviet hockey was good already in 1960s with players like Firsov and Starshinov.
Да, вы правы... Стили похожи. Но, тренер В. Тихонов разрабатывал свою тактику ни у кого, ничего не перенимая. Он обладал, тонким интеллектом.
I thought the Soviets were like Brazil 🇧🇷 1982..like a jazz band, the passing, moving forward, improvising..breath taking..
Check out the Soviet Goals of their Fourth Goal during Game 2 of The Rendezvous series against the NHL in February 1987 and their Second Goal against the United States during the 1980 Winter Olympics. See the Soviet Pass the Puck to Himself off the Skate of their Opponents while His Teammate directly on the Other Side is the Decoy Man to Lure their Opponents Vision towards Him. I saw the Soviets score several Goals using this Tactic and this was one of the Creative ways they would Compensate for Coverage !!!
LOVE IT!!!
Hockey the way is should be played
The Soviets broke down every aspect of the game: from individual skills, to overall team-play. They studied it all, reduced it to subcomponents, refined it, and developed their players under that umbrella.
One key thing a lot of people don't think about is the underlying motivation to the players. This was military service for the Soviet players. If you got the opportunity to get into the hockey program, you had two options: Option One was to excel and remain within the hockey program. Option Two was to fail, and maybe end up in some infantry unit in Siberia: getting frostbitten ears or toes. Herb Brooks could skate the 80 Team all he wanted to in order to punish failure. Trying not to lose appendages to the cold is a whole new level of negative reinforcement.
You really does not know what are you talking about. Just a piece of stupid propaganda...
Russians 🇷🇺. The BEST !
@gabepolsky watched you film on netlifx. amazin film . soglad to have watehd ti.
Раскатывали, как детей!!!!
Good lord.
Oh yeah it www a great serie and Canada won the tournament
О, да!.. И проиграла предыдущий и следующий.
@@user-ml4rz3fo3j Oh sorry bro, I speak 3 languages but not your language..Take care
@@user-ml4rz3fo3jYes it's 2 great team... Don't be mad😂
@@user-oh4cw2bd1m 🧐 Где ты увидел злость???
Saying Gretzky is the best hockey player ever when you type in google search is getting me on my nerves
Commenting on old comments but had to, soviets played together and could develop and execute their artist's style. Can they do it now of course not. They are like Canada in the 70s 80s. Of course a team that stuck together since they were juniors year round day after day would score fantastic goals. Canada had individuals with super skill but was hard to mesh into a team in such a short time as a tournament. These comments are ridiculous.
Remember lemeiux in 83 world championships or Yzerman in 88 89. They single handedly brought down the ussr setting the chmapsionships on fire. But they didn't have the luxury of a team like ussr with them year round. Different team strategy for different cultures.
It was 1985 for Lemieux but they still lost to CSSR. Nevertheless during the biggest Soviet domination in the late 70s and early 80s the Canadians mostly played their club level line ups. It's a lie to claim what you claimed. Also all of the young Russians eventually became stars like Bure Fedorov Ovechkin Malkin etc. so it wasn't just "memorized teamplay" and no skill.
У меня есть клюшка Макарова с росписями сборной СССР
right and who won the Canada Cup or Rendevous '87? I love Russian players and style but it's not the most successful style by any means. And to suggest players on the Canadian team were not creative um.. Gretzky, Lemieux, Messier, Coffey, Hawerchuck, Ray Bourque to name a few were fantastic and creative offensive talents
+M Jam судьи канадские
the nhl did not win rendez-vous 87. they were actually outscored by one goal over the two games. I have to give Canada great credit for winning in 84 and 87 but let's remember that they WERE AT HOME. that is a rather important fact. and, the soviet teams were making very little money while playing against millionaires. so, let's have some perspective. sure, I know that the soviets were in reality professionals. it weas a joke that they played in the Olympics. another fact that may be of interest is that the soviet club teams won the vast majority of the games vs nhl teams from 76-91.
good point _ I forgot it was a 2 game series. Soviet coach Viktor Tikhonov made no claim to victory. "The NHL didn't win and neither did we, the person that won was hockey itself. Both games were like holidays, like festivals, two of the greatest hockey games you'll ever see.
M Jam4 years ago (edited)right and who won the Canada Cup
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in 1981 ?? hehe
on serous note, Canada cup was on smaller rink, and not friendly people around and judge's bias!!!
anyway. 65 56 65 i would SAY IT WAS draw!!!!!!!!!
and best hockey all time!!!!!!
er that they WERE AT HOME. that is a rather
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more important. size of rink!!
on europe size of rinks it would have been murder!!!!!!! by USSR!!!!!!!
They lost this very series, two games to one, though. Winning should factor into the judgement, shouldn't it?
Greg Kelly but this is just a showcase, if you want to see winning look at their world championship and Olympic records
Greg Kelly6 months agoThey lost this very serie
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yeah!! hostile environment, hostile judges and smaller rinks!!!!!
alfie horn just a showcase? This series was the pinnacle of the sport. They played against kids in the Olympics and world championships, not the pros
@@Alf763 They were pro's against college kids and junior players.
@@MyAlexWest Совершенно то, что вы перечислили, плюс перелеты из города, в город(!) и настрой команд НХЛ, как на последний бой... То-есть, ЦСКА был один, а вас много!
The so-called "Soviet System" was to hothouse the best players they could find, train and practice them together as a team daily for literally years basically behind bars, and then try to showcase them against the World.
This Canadian "team" had less than a week to practice together, some of the players hated each other, and they still actually won this series.
They won because they played for the love of the game, sportsmanship, and country. Not coercion at gunpoint.
Big shout out to Grant Fuhr destroying half of these hand-picked so-called highlights. Best goalie in World history. And to team Canada of course who inconveniently-for-the-director actually won the series.
+MultiCappie на самом деле выбор был не из огромного количества людей как ты думаешь, а скорее из предпочтений тренера, и кстати тренировка у них была очень очень жестокая
+MultiCappie The director is probably a commie
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Butthurt? From all the winning? lol.
But I do respect the _great_ players of this country of this era or any other country/era. Not much respect for Tikhonov, I'll admit, or the "win at all costs" approach (I'm no fan of Bobby Clarke either, if you really want to know.)
I watched the movie when it came to Edmonton, and I think what you misaccused me of could more accurately be applied to the movie director -- of disrespecting the greatness of the Oilers and of Team Canada of this same era. I suppose he had a story to tell, but it was far from balanced. As I mentioned, the Oiler-laden Team Canada portrayed here actually won the series, and the beautifully executed Tarasovian brilliance still failed to put the puck past Grant Fuhr, yet it's portrayed that the Soviets somehow dominated.
the Soviets didn't win though...
Irina Volkova well said
Too bad they lost then
Кто проиграл?
@@user-ml4rz3fo3j The Soviets. They played absolutely beautiful hockey but they lost the 87 series. Some of the greatest hockey ever played.
@@jasonhopps6482 🤝
One more thing:
The best team in the history of hockey was the Edmonton Oilers 1987-88.
Not the longest lived, it's hard to keep it together when you're a small City instead of the seat of an empire, but definitely the best.
All this talk of the Red Army five, but the Oilers _second_ line_ was Mark Messier, Glenn Anderson, Craig Simpson, with the second D-pair Steve Smith and Jeff Beukeboom, and the second goalie Bill Ranford. The Red Army was strong on the opening lineup, but would have been run ragged by the Oilers tag-team.
+MultiCappie Тебя похоже чем то обидела советская команда по хокею дружище
+Kaiser
Lol. No.
The Oilers are the only team that ever scored over 400 goals in a season, but they did it _5_ _years_ _in_ _a_ _row_.
The top, second, third, fourth _and_ fifth scoring players in the NHL playoffs are _all_ Oilers.
_Both_ the top two regular season scorers are Oilers.
This is not a criticism of the Soviets/Red Wings, but even if their teamwork was likely superior, they were only slightly better than their era.
The Oilers cast such a shadow that everybody even forgot the Islanders, which should never happen to 4X champions. They caused the largest NHL expansion in history.
All without the privilege of empire.
+DeloreaN DMC
Perhaps you're right, but even this documentary shows the early age recruiting camps of Tarasov. I'm saying Canadian kids don't get any contact with pro teams until they're 18.
Да ну, чушь. Вторая тройка Хомутов-Быков-Каменский мало чем уступала КЛМ. Гретцки бы закрыли наглухо, как бы канадцы с ним не носились, а вот Мессье доставил бы массу проблем
Well, actually Cska beat the oilers soundly in the superseries of ’85.
Canada playing ANY team in the world on equal terms wins 9 out of ten games, could you imagine what this team Canada could do if they played together like the Red Army were FORCED to? This was a Canadian all star team that had little little time together. The Soviets NEVER played in a game that they didn't go into without a tremendous advantage. All their wins in the world championships and Olympics were against very poor competition.
+discoveryman59 Oh please lol
+Luca Panchini Oh please lol
discoveryman59 lol, you do realize the Soviet national team and Central Red Army were two different teams right?
Not true, they had the longest unbeaten runs in international hockey. The Soviets played most of their games away from the USSR more than any other side in the history of the sport. Would the North American teams won as much travelling to the USSR, not a chance. The Soviets didn't win everything, but they were the most consistent international team ever. I have not seen any team play with the artistry of the Soviet team since, and I've watched a lot of hockey.
Not true at all, the Soviets may not have won every game, but they were not afraid of anyone either, they toured and played everyone, countries and clubs alike, who else were they to play? Nobody, so over a period of consistency and longevity, they did play the best, and beat the best, by playing the best hockey.
his voice is terrible - go back to hiring voice people. u have the money to spend. Again, terrible.
But they lost.
Name a national hockey team that hasnt
that is why i better watch CROSBY THAN ovechkin
and yes i am Russian!!!!!!!!!
# Soviet Style
cause Crosby plays hockey , ovi is just shooter, good one!!
but no better than Brett hull
cups : crosby 3 - ovi 1
who played batter in playoffs?
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you seems American you like individuals records, i am Russian, i like team records!!!!!
digital warfare29 minutes ago@alex west True but poor Mcdavid right?
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i heard about him. did not watch much!!!
he never played in playoffs yet. may be next season!!!!!!!
need keep an eye on him!!!!!!!
А, я канадец. И я вынужден признать, что советский хоккей, ЛУЧШИЙ В МИРЕ!
,,Русский, который пишет, на английском... 🤦 Расскажи об этом ,своим друзьям!