It wouldn’t be Italian if there wasn’t some sort of code thrown or electrical gremlin 😂 Agusta’s are true works of art. Gorgeous looks and gorgeous sounds. Star of the show no matter where you go.
I am considering trading my RS660 Extrema for this bike, the RR to be exact. I am somewhat of a new rider so for myself, this bike seems to be a healthy step up BUT Where I live doesn't have an MV dealership ANYWHERE NEARBY. How difficult would maintenance be in my situation? How impossible would Maintenace be for any dealer who doesn't sell or connect with MV?
@@shayzadg I always say if you have to ask how much something is you can’t afford it. I am not saying you can’t afford it at all. It’s a great bike but not cheap
@GSXRDAVE73 oh 100% agree with you. See my friend has a triple r 675 and I have a ninja400 but I love the platform so much I was looking at selling the 400 next year to get the daytona since it's within my budget but I literally saw yesterday the f3 and it's also within my budget (5000 euroes) so was thinking of it. But I don't see many.ppl owning it so there must be a reason fr. So I'm probably gonna stick to the daytona lol
The clutch lockout is a new development. My 21 brutale 1k did not have that with the original mapping, but after updated mapping, i now have to pull in the clutch. Thus far, the complaints i have would have to be after installing the race ecu that came with the arrow slip on, my cruise control wont work anymore, the factory auto blipper is spotty, good for road use but i wouldnt trust it on track, and for the way i like to ride the spring rates in the shock and fork made the bike literally unridable for me. All that being said it is by far my favorite and i hope to add more mv's to my garage
By the way... if you are having issues with your F3 starting I can tell you with almost 100% certainty that it is the "Sprag Clutch" aka Starter Clutch starting to fail. I just got my bike back from the dealer after a few weeks of waiting for a replacement Sprag Clutch to come in, luckily this was completely covered under warranty. From what I understand this has been an on going issue over many generations of three cylinder MV bikes. Hope this helps!
I’ve heard a few of the forum members say that too! I’ll have to see next time I take a road trip up to the dealer lol (ya know these MV dealers are like tryna find water in a desert). Stay safe riding out there!
Right! I would recommend you address this sooner rather than later, mine got continually worse until my bike literally would not start. Don't end up stranded!
@The Moto Seoul I enjoy your videos so thank you for posting them. My brother has just bought a new 2022 F3 800 Rosso. He was told the clutch sprag issues were sorted, but I guess not? How many miles before the problem shows up? You've had overheating issues too?
Glad to hear you enjoy the videos. I'm sure your brother is excited about his new bike, they are sweet machines! To answer your question, I made it to about 3500 miles before my sprag clutch was completely shot (meaning the bike would not start and actually left me stranded). The symptoms of the sprag going bad started far before that though, you will notice when the bike starts having trouble starting up. At that point I recommend calling your local dealer to have them look at replacing the part under warranty! The overheating I was having was only on the hottest days during the summer months here in Texas (110+ degrees), however once I swapped to Engine Ice Coolant the heat problems never arose again even on hot days. Hopefully this helps. Thanks for watching!
@@themotoseoul Thanks for your reply. How many miles have you done since the sprag clutch was replaced? Is it symptom free at the moment? May I ask if you put the battery on trickle charge between rides?
I just passed 4200 miles. Haven't had any issues so far! I always plug up to a trickle charger when not riding. I was also advised by some of my viewers who are MV owners that I will need to upgrade to a higher voltage battery at some point to avoid future issues. Apparently the starter system on the bike draws more power than the factory installed battery can handle and this is one of the reasons the sprag clutch goes bad? I am no expert on this, just relaying what I have been told!
@@themotoseoul Thanks again. You'd think that the MV Agusta factory would install a higher powered battery from new to prevent the sprag clutch issues, if that really is the reason it goes bad?
I owned a 2017 F4RR. Too many mechanical and electrical issues. I was expecting a reliable motorcycle but very disappointed. My dealer dropped the MV brand from the show room. Issues I had with the motorcycle: electrical wiring issue which was fully replaced under warranty, oil leak from the crank where the sprocket is (even after dealer servicing it), gas tank deformation due to ethanol content in the US gasoline (replaced under warranty), engine overheating issue even with a better water impeller installed, vibrating mirror that was replaced under warranty, LCD dash that becomes dark & unreadable when the bike is parked under the sunlight for too longer. Issues with dealership: untrained mechanics due to high turnover, careless work (missing screws, missing fasteners, overtorquing causing damage to engine crankcase, missing clips, did not put the fairing back correctly after service), misdiagnosed problems causing even more expensive service. I’ve seen two other customers with Brutale 800 (MY 2017) whose engine was broken and replaced under warranty. The F4 or any MV bikes are motorcycle art for the living room literally. My F4 is the most expensive living room decor there is. I’m still holding onto it for my project bike and learning to service it myself. The F4 is a great motorcycle when it is working but my ownership has been plagued with too many unscheduled visit to the dealer. I will forever never consider buying another MV Agusta again. My Ducati is surprisingly a much more reliable bike from electrical and mechanical perspectives. Aftermarket parts are plentiful. Dealership experience has been very positive so far. Service work has been great also. Sorry MV Agusta, you are extremely beautiful to ride and to look at but I have no patience in dealing with many negative ownership experiences. YMMV.
First mistake was "expecting a reliable motorcycle" luckily I knew very well what I was getting into buying a super rare Italian bike, my love affair with this motorcycle could not be expressed in words!
2022 MV Agusta F3 800 from sunny Florida checking in… Well, let’s just say that I have been on quite a journey with my F3 800 especially considering she’s only had 1100 miles on her since I purchased her about a year and a half ago the bike had to go down south to the Miami dealer about four different times they could never fix the Main issue bogging the motor down so hopefully I get my bike back from Tampa here within the next few weeks and she will be running the way she should have whenever I first purchased her not only did my oil cap blow off during my break in mile. But my sprag clutch also went out within the first 500 miles, the bike has had a strange hesitation/bogging problem between 4000, 5,000 1/2 thousand RPMs It’s been to the Miami dealer about four times, etc. etc. lol yes such as the life of a owner of the Ferrari of motorcycles yes I have dreamed of having one of these bikes since I was 18 and started started riding but now that I finally have one. I understand that you mostly look at these bikes, rather than ride them, it would seem. I did get the QD slip on exhaust. I’m still trying to figure out if I want to go with the full system on this bike or drop a tune on it with the hiccups I’ve had so far but I’ll load up whenever I get it back from Tampa. She’ll have some new carbon and a few extra goodies , plus you’ll be rideable again so that will be a big plus hopefully I can get over 5000 miles lol MV AGusta dealer network and their customer service team pretty much left me hanging for about a year.. hopefully they allow me to extend my warranty since the bike hasn’t been in operation for over a year which fingers crossed but we’ll see what happens personally, the rear break going out because of the recall is a little more concerning than the silly bogging problem but hey, I mostly stop on the front break anyways thank God I’m an experienced rider. I would never want to put a rider of less than two years on this type of motorcycle especially because the brakes can randomly go out not only that, but if you’re sitting in traffic for longer than five minutes, the screen will turn bright red and start flashing at you which will make you immediately want to merge into incoming traffic to cool your motorcycle down. It’s even more fun when this happens on the Miami downtown highway and you have to immediately merge into the express lane where people are flying 100 miles an hour behind you to try and cool your bike down. Yes I’ve done it. No it’s not fun. I’m still alive to talk about it. Call me what you want. I still love the Bike, I’ve always loved this bike ever since I first saw it at my very first bike night when I was 18 years old. It sounds amazing it rides like no other that is one thing I will say. to hell with all those people that tell you don’t sleep with that girl she’s no good for you or don’t buy that car. It’s too much power for you. Listen if you’re not buying shit that isn’t gonna kill you you’re not a friend of mine, secondly, all your friends, especially the ones that Ride are going to want to be sitting next to you at bike night and at events you’re going to get a lot of good attention, and most of all the way this bike rides is very very different than any other 600 or 750 or 900 or liter bike… I mean, maybe it’s the reverse crank, but this thing sucks you into every corner and I will say this for the money in the headache and all of the heartache you’re gonna go through with this bike. Every time you do hit that ignition and she starts… eventually, you are going to have a blast each and every ride. Even though it has a lot of rider aids and updates it still feels like the early 2000s analog bikes and like some of the 90s bikes it still has some raw emotion to it. It still feels special and it’s definitely worth the experience. Yes if you are going to waste your money on a rare stupidly font Motorcycle this is the one to do it. I highly advise you to do it and take it to the race track because that’s really worth these things excel but hey if you catch me there just make sure you get my better side 😏 Also replace the LED headlight bulb with aftermarket lose the weather cap YOLO🎉 Funny sidenote, I was gonna have it shipped to Monkey Moto Texas whenever Miami couldn’t deliver, but MV wouldn’t cover the tow lol!!
Wow! Quite the journey you have been on... Ownership of high performance European machines of all categories certainly comes with its challenges, but it is worth the headache in my eyes. RAW. POWERFUL. NIMBLE. BEAUTIFUL. Motorcycle Art.
@@themotoseoulTrust the process, it’s well worth the journey. Haven’t had this much fun since my 05 750 and 07 cbr600rr bike just pulls you in. Also the more of these we put on the street the better. It adds more to these types of brands which being so unique they are less wasteful on a one size fits all for the masses of different CC’s big box brand bike. Keeps the raw feel and makes riding fun again a step back from the insane power of superbikes today.
Bro, I'm not trying to chastise you, but quite a few of these issue can be solved. Obviously the solutions are outside of the manufacturer's guidelines so guys at the dealership will not tell you about options which are non-standard and they do not want to support. I run an F3 800 2014, and that clutch lockout could be bypassed via several options, you may* be able to find that check in the ECU on your model and disable it in a software like ECU studio, or if it is a hard switch that won't signal the starter relay without the clutch in you could just tweak your wiring. Alternatively and I recognize this is less approachable, you could introduce signal logic (the clutch lever literally just grounds a connection via a small switch) with a microcontroller like arduino nano. This way when the microcontroller detects the engine is off (just have it read a tach signal or something, I think this can be done on newer models from the CAN bus) it automatically grounds the clutch sensor line, and then as soon as the engine is running your code will release the ground and your clutch sensor works as normal. I don't know if they drastically changed the headlight for 2022, but you should just be able to swap your halogen bulb for a LED array. Sometimes these need additional resistors to ensure you don't over current them so take note of that and I would measure the resistance of your factory hallogen. Another thing to remember is that our bikes are just that, bikes. So long as it is tastefully and skillfully done, you can MAKE any part for your MV. The factory headers are just stainless on most models, so you can make whatever exhaust config you want out of 316 tube, etc. Guys discard the factory headers frequently, but a spare on ebay and cut it to use for the flange, then fab up whatever you want. These bikes are more of a platform to build off of, and if you purchase modifications based on part measurements rather than a note explicitly approving said part for your model you can save a ton of time waiting for mail from San Marino I will give up the ghost in respect to the wiring. It could be tucked better, but for me it is already difficult to get to various connectors without a fair amount of disassembly. Fortunately the ECU programming port is under your passenger seat and easy to get to. On the note of your ECU the really awesome thing is that it is factory unlocked so you can edit everything and flash whatever map you want. Check out ECU Studio www.ecustudio.com/bikes/MV/mv.html Look at some build threads for the guys who race our bikes. They get into machining parts that don't exist and doing really deep modding. www.mvagusta.net
Wow... That is quite the comment! Hopefully you check out some of the other videos on my channel. I want to be very clear, I LOVE THIS BIKE! This video is really meant to just be five things that I dislike about the bike and believe me I had to dig deep to find five! Even then I was really only able to come up with a few annoyances more than true dislikes... Thanks for watching!
@@themotoseoul I like to encourage people to navigate beyond their current limitations. I recognize that your dislikes were more of annoyances based on your tonality and statements in the video. Surely you could understand how the audience might misinterpret your affection with the video as titled. Like I said, I'm not trying to beat you up man, clearly you are testing things out trying to navigate the youtube formula. Perhaps consider this, you could offer value to your audience by documenting your journey of fixing the dislikes you have mentioned. Imagine that content, it would be detailed and unique as you could share information about how you maneuvered around the dealer limitations to genuinely and in a truly innovative way. By sharing intricate and uncommon information that you learn on your journey you would be releasing high-value content that enthusiasts would share naturally, thus leveraging a more effective mechanism than video title to spread your content. Further you would likely appeal to a broader audience addressing one of the common difficulties that afflict niche channels. For example if you built, or participated in the creation of an add-in logic controller to safely address the 'clutch to start' procedure that you dislike many gearheads in general would have an interest regardless of vehicle because you are showing them that if a solution is not available for purchase it does not mean that they are stuck with what they have, only that they need to broaden the methods they use to solve the problem. I get that it may not be yourself who designs the controller or writes the code, but given the simple circuit required and how little logic is needed you may be surprised by the talent that could be recruited to help with such a project. You could even start with the LED array, as this is quite approachable. Years ago in my late teens I HATED anything electrical because I couldn't fully comprehend how things were working and was terrified to burn something up. I looked into driving an LED headlight with the factory circuit to avoid modifying anything. I figured if I could replicate the same electrical conditions as the factory bulb with whatever I connected to the halogen plug then there was no way I would kill anything. Actually I just pulled myself from engineering/design land for a moment and remembered that we aren't working on some old 70's bike here and that for a headlight you need not cook up a solution yourself. The bulbs our bikes use are common H4 automotive bulbs, you can get an LED array that fits the H4 socket and form factor I'll link below. If you want to be absolutely certain there will be no issue electrically just measure the resistance value of the stock bulb with a $10 multi-meter when you are doing the replacement. There are 3 terminals on an H4 bulb one for high-beam, one for low-beam, and one for ground. On the stock bulb measure the resistance from high-beam to ground, and from low beam to ground. If the resistance values (will be displayed in Ohms) are close then you can be 100% certain you will not have any issues. I cannot imagine that the manufactures of H4 LED arrays/bulbs wouldn't have ensured this but if you need that extra verification that is how to do it. I get that this is not supposed to be a forum post, but I suppose MV is a brand I feel a duty to maintain and uplift. Having been started by Count Domenico Agusta and having deep history I feel these machines are misunderstood. They are Sammarinese artwork first, a race machine second, and are sold as street bikes. As you said San Marino is already struggling to fill orders, and if those who know cloister the knowledge of how to deal with these machines inevitably these bikes will fall to the proletariat, and that is a knee we cannot bend. I am user "R.Martin" on mvagusta.net, feel free to reach out to me and I'll share how you can approach your MV in a way where you will do right by the Count and make some properly deep content for your viewers along the way. If any of this has been insightful perhaps this video could be renamed something like "Things to address on my Mv Agusta F3" and server as the start to an engaging modification series. H4 LED array - www.amazon.com/Ursprung-FAHREN-Upgraded-Headlight-Brighter/dp/B0BYNS1QLZ/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?crid=2FICKIOB440OX&keywords=h4+LED&qid=1683862928&sprefix=h4+led%2Caps%2C190&sr=8-3-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFLWURQVlNNM0pNVzMmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA4ODQ1ODQzU1ZHSlFWUVY5SCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzA4NTkxMlo2MTgwSTVXTk5NWiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU= H4 connector pinout - www.accessnorton.com/NortonCommando/h4-bulb-pins.24581/ Multimeter - www.amazon.com/gp/slredirect/picassoRedirect.html/ref=pa_sp_atf_aps_sr_pg1_1?ie=UTF8&adId=A0464979DMSKNZP87EVH&qualifier=1683864245&id=3049418005155066&widgetName=sp_atf&url=%2FEtekcity-Multimeter-MSR-R500-Electronic-Multimeters%2Fdp%2FB01N9QW620%2Fref%3Dsr_1_4_sspa%3Fcrid%3D3KPRRYBO0GV25%26keywords%3Dmultimeter%26qid%3D1683864245%26sprefix%3Dmultimeter%252Caps%252C120%26sr%3D8-4-spons%26psc%3D1
The title of this video will remain the same. If you are truly as passionate and knowledgeable about the MV brand as you say, maybe you should take your own advise and start a CZcams channel where you provide content that you consider valuable... As for me, I'm going to keep enjoying my bike, and making entertaining motovlogs that I enjoy. Thanks for watching!
@@themotoseoul I can understand that, I have thought many times about documenting the builds, fabrication, machining, and electronics. My issue is that I know it is a serious undertaking starting a channel and with all of the other work I concluded that I would not be able to commit to it. I only offered the series concept because it seems you are already invested in the filming aspect and I know there are plenty of guys like me who do detailed work and even crazier stuff than I am presently able to do who would contribute to your efforts but can't film themselves or prefer to be ghosts.
You pretty much echoed what other MV owners told me when I asked their opinions. Very few dealers, slow parts support, unreliable and next to little aftermarket goodies. It's also a two hour drive to the closest dealer (same one you are at). The MV Agusta owners pretty much told me to get the Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 instead of the Brutale.
A huge pro of my country is that it's so small that even with just one mv agusta dealer it's close enough for anyone in the country and the other pro is that italy is a 2 hour flight away
Hello!! No it's because your bike has a cable traditional clutch. My 2015 Dragster RR was the same and now that I have a 2022 Dragster with hydraulic clutch, no clutch needed to start it.@@themotoseoul
I wanted to get a Super Veloce, but there are more dealers and aftermarket support for Ducati. So I ended up with a Panigale instead. Still want an MV though maybe whenever I sell my Aprilia RS660. 😂
@@themotoseoul I only ask for reliability purposes and how long you’d have to go without a bike if it’s in the shop. I am looking at a 2018 but it would be a second bike.
I believe that most of the issues I have had with the bike stem from low quality batteries being used. From what I understand the battery the bike comes with lacks the power necessary to reliably start the bike. This causes the starter clutch issues these bikes are know for. My factory battery was replaced with lithium under warranty in June of last year. No issues since then.
I have a 2023 Ducati V2 Bayliss and a 2009 MV Agusta F4 312RR. When I want to turn up somewhere to turn heads, I always take the F4 over the Bayliss. MVs are just a world apart from any other bike in terms of their beauty!
I was told it has a "clutch lock out feature" you can press the starter button all you want on this bike it will not turn the engine over unless the clutch is pulled in. Maybe this is new on the euro5 bikes? What year is your f3?
@@themotoseoulgot a 2014 f3 series oro. Same thing with the clutch. Pull it or else it won’t crank. I see it similar to pushing the brake to start on a car, some brands got it. Others don’t
How do you like Monkey Moto. Besides the fact that it is such a pain in the you know what to get there. They seem really arrogant on the phone everytime I call them.
Honestly not a fan.... I will not elaborate in an effort not to badmouth a local company. I only use them for warranty issues. Any services I pay for out of pocket I use NTX Superbikes which is also in Argyle, TX. In fact its in the same business park as Monkey Moto.
@@themotoseoul Thanks man. Good, So I am not alone. It is very frustrating dealing with them. But since they seem to be the only show in town for MV's. I seem to be stuck with them for my F4. European cycle sports in Plano is only willing to do oil changes. Is NTX superbikes willing to work on MV's? And are they good ? Thanks in advance!
Yes sir, NTX Superbikes would be my recommendation for anyone with a exotic bike! The owner of the shop has done all the non warranty work on my bike! Installed race headers and exhaust, charcoal canister delete, race ecu, tire swaps, oil changes and other routine maintenance... That dude is a wizard with all bikes!
I'm considering a Superveloce 800. It wouldn't be my only bike as a have another; however, I keep hearing things about MV reliability. The gold one looks sick :)!
I would change the battery right now and the sprag will hold up a lot longer it's not a fun job, it is also warranty for the life of the bike because MV Agusta knew about it. the original sprag lasted about 500 miles, dealer replaced it for free with the upgraded sprag although it still cost me money to get it there 70 miles and return... the updated sprag started to make noise at around 7,000 miles so I added the lithium battery, and this calmed it down a lot... at 15,000 miles it took a shit and it cost me a $600.00 towing bill from the Berkley Marina back to Empire about 100 miles away...I don't blame the bike because I knew it had the problem my bad!
Interesting, you are not the first person who has recommended a battery change. I was out riding today and the bike would not start, luckily I was at the dealership for their open house so I left it there. I will speak with them early next week about changing the battery. Thanks for the advise!
@@themotoseoul I would also buy the socket for removing the rear wheel I carry it with me on long rides the chain adjusting spanner wrench too...I did some pretty long rides including the saddle sore 1000.. 1,065 miles in 22hrs...the engine is a bad ass!
Yes, stopped vlogging for the time being. Real life commitments have taken precedence, still enjoy the rare spirited ride on the MV though! Would love to get out more with the old crew!
Had a 2020 BMW S1000RR............Traded it in for an old 2015 MV AGUSTA F3 800. BMW is a German porn star did everything only good to look at. MV AGUSTA is Italian catwalk model doesn't cook or clean but wow she looks amazing.
"the cool, turn your key on and start you button with one hand" seriously? man why the hell did you buy this bike if you don't know anything about bikes?
Dude, GO TO AN AFTERMARKET PARTS STORE AND BUY AN LED KIT FOR THE BIKE! It's not that hard 🤦🏻♂️ I'm aiming for the Brutale 1000 RR Assen (no need to improve on a perfect bike).
And now your video is rendered useless since KTM now owns MV and they will use the same dealer locations and service centers... Also, your video would only apply to NA. Not Europe.
@@thepineappleburster4439 Did they officially make that happen? I know they have talked about it for a few years… if so that is great news for all MV owners!
Wow. "Don't buy this bike" as he's sitting on one. You're a hypocrite, and a bad customer. MV Agusta doesn't legally have to do business with you, and if I were them, I'd cut ties.
I don't care. i want a Superveloce in my living room :).
I want the Rush 1000, too. 😂😂
Better to have a Superveloce on the road!
I love my MV despite the ownership challenges.
Do you mean the coming one Superveloce 1000 cc..?
this is a 70k Euro motorbike in Europe..@@themotoseoul
Hey I have a SV in the living room .. it's amazing work of art !
MV makes works of art indeed.
My preference, however, is to see them out on the road. Being used as the machine was intended.
Mv Agusta is a good brand. The 2023 models have LED lights. MV is no for regular Persons, is only for Fans.
Only fans.
@@themotoseoulyes 😂😂
I still think the MV Agusta F4 Tamburini and F4 Senna are probably the two sickest bikes in the world hands down.
All the F4 models are sick, but the Claudio is KING! Thanks for watching!
+1 on the Senna for the looks and the history. Respect to Ayrton Senna...
It wouldn’t be Italian if there wasn’t some sort of code thrown or electrical gremlin 😂
Agusta’s are true works of art. Gorgeous looks and gorgeous sounds. Star of the show no matter where you go.
I am considering trading my RS660 Extrema for this bike, the RR to be exact. I am somewhat of a new rider so for myself, this bike seems to be a healthy step up BUT Where I live doesn't have an MV dealership ANYWHERE NEARBY. How difficult would maintenance be in my situation? How impossible would Maintenace be for any dealer who doesn't sell or connect with MV?
I have a 2012 MV Agusta F4R. It is a gorgeous bike. I love it.
You are a lucky man my friend! Thanks for watching.
How’s maintenance…thinking if to get this as my 2nd bike next year
@@shayzadg I always say if you have to ask how much something is you can’t afford it. I am not saying you can’t afford it at all. It’s a great bike but not cheap
@GSXRDAVE73 oh 100% agree with you. See my friend has a triple r 675 and I have a ninja400 but I love the platform so much I was looking at selling the 400 next year to get the daytona since it's within my budget but I literally saw yesterday the f3 and it's also within my budget (5000 euroes) so was thinking of it. But I don't see many.ppl owning it so there must be a reason fr. So I'm probably gonna stick to the daytona lol
The clutch lockout is a new development. My 21 brutale 1k did not have that with the original mapping, but after updated mapping, i now have to pull in the clutch. Thus far, the complaints i have would have to be after installing the race ecu that came with the arrow slip on, my cruise control wont work anymore, the factory auto blipper is spotty, good for road use but i wouldnt trust it on track, and for the way i like to ride the spring rates in the shock and fork made the bike literally unridable for me. All that being said it is by far my favorite and i hope to add more mv's to my garage
Hearing your Termignoni headers solidified my choice to put them on mine lol. Sounds amazing
Glad I could help brother! Thanks for the continued support!
By the way... if you are having issues with your F3 starting I can tell you with almost 100% certainty that it is the "Sprag Clutch" aka Starter Clutch starting to fail.
I just got my bike back from the dealer after a few weeks of waiting for a replacement Sprag Clutch to come in, luckily this was completely covered under warranty. From what I understand this has been an on going issue over many generations of three cylinder MV bikes. Hope this helps!
I’ve heard a few of the forum members say that too! I’ll have to see next time I take a road trip up to the dealer lol (ya know these MV dealers are like tryna find water in a desert). Stay safe riding out there!
Right! I would recommend you address this sooner rather than later, mine got continually worse until my bike literally would not start. Don't end up stranded!
@The Moto Seoul I enjoy your videos so thank you for posting them. My brother has just bought a new 2022 F3 800 Rosso. He was told the clutch sprag issues were sorted, but I guess not? How many miles before the problem shows up? You've had overheating issues too?
Glad to hear you enjoy the videos. I'm sure your brother is excited about his new bike, they are sweet machines!
To answer your question, I made it to about 3500 miles before my sprag clutch was completely shot (meaning the bike would not start and actually left me stranded). The symptoms of the sprag going bad started far before that though, you will notice when the bike starts having trouble starting up. At that point I recommend calling your local dealer to have them look at replacing the part under warranty!
The overheating I was having was only on the hottest days during the summer months here in Texas (110+ degrees), however once I swapped to Engine Ice Coolant the heat problems never arose again even on hot days.
Hopefully this helps.
Thanks for watching!
@@themotoseoul Thanks for your reply. How many miles have you done since the sprag clutch was replaced? Is it symptom free at the moment? May I ask if you put the battery on trickle charge between rides?
I just passed 4200 miles. Haven't had any issues so far! I always plug up to a trickle charger when not riding.
I was also advised by some of my viewers who are MV owners that I will need to upgrade to a higher voltage battery at some point to avoid future issues. Apparently the starter system on the bike draws more power than the factory installed battery can handle and this is one of the reasons the sprag clutch goes bad?
I am no expert on this, just relaying what I have been told!
@@themotoseoul Thanks again. You'd think that the MV Agusta factory would install a higher powered battery from new to prevent the sprag clutch issues, if that really is the reason it goes bad?
Yeah, you would think that...
Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help!
I owned a 2017 F4RR. Too many mechanical and electrical issues. I was expecting a reliable motorcycle but very disappointed. My dealer dropped the MV brand from the show room. Issues I had with the motorcycle: electrical wiring issue which was fully replaced under warranty, oil leak from the crank where the sprocket is (even after dealer servicing it), gas tank deformation due to ethanol content in the US gasoline (replaced under warranty), engine overheating issue even with a better water impeller installed, vibrating mirror that was replaced under warranty, LCD dash that becomes dark & unreadable when the bike is parked under the sunlight for too longer. Issues with dealership: untrained mechanics due to high turnover, careless work (missing screws, missing fasteners, overtorquing causing damage to engine crankcase, missing clips, did not put the fairing back correctly after service), misdiagnosed problems causing even more expensive service. I’ve seen two other customers with Brutale 800 (MY 2017) whose engine was broken and replaced under warranty. The F4 or any MV bikes are motorcycle art for the living room literally. My F4 is the most expensive living room decor there is. I’m still holding onto it for my project bike and learning to service it myself. The F4 is a great motorcycle when it is working but my ownership has been plagued with too many unscheduled visit to the dealer. I will forever never consider buying another MV Agusta again.
My Ducati is surprisingly a much more reliable bike from electrical and mechanical perspectives. Aftermarket parts are plentiful. Dealership experience has been very positive so far. Service work has been great also.
Sorry MV Agusta, you are extremely beautiful to ride and to look at but I have no patience in dealing with many negative ownership experiences. YMMV.
First mistake was "expecting a reliable motorcycle" luckily I knew very well what I was getting into buying a super rare Italian bike, my love affair with this motorcycle could not be expressed in words!
Which camera do you use and where is it placed ? Cool video
GoPro Hero 10 Black on a ChinMount! Thanks for watching!
Oh man, too sad to hear that. I know how much you love the bike and I love as well. The brand is too amazing. And the bike is so gorgeous.
Too sad to hear what?
Everything is good brother!!!
2022 MV Agusta F3 800 from sunny Florida checking in…
Well, let’s just say that I have been on quite a journey with my F3 800 especially considering she’s only had 1100 miles on her since I purchased her about a year and a half ago the bike had to go down south to the Miami dealer about four different times they could never fix the Main issue bogging the motor down so hopefully I get my bike back from Tampa here within the next few weeks and she will be running the way she should have whenever I first purchased her not only did my oil cap blow off during my break in mile. But my sprag clutch also went out within the first 500 miles, the bike has had a strange hesitation/bogging problem between 4000, 5,000 1/2 thousand RPMs It’s been to the Miami dealer about four times, etc. etc. lol yes such as the life of a owner of the Ferrari of motorcycles yes I have dreamed of having one of these bikes since I was 18 and started started riding but now that I finally have one. I understand that you mostly look at these bikes, rather than ride them, it would seem.
I did get the QD slip on exhaust. I’m still trying to figure out if I want to go with the full system on this bike or drop a tune on it with the hiccups I’ve had so far but I’ll load up whenever I get it back from Tampa. She’ll have some new carbon and a few extra goodies , plus you’ll be rideable again so that will be a big plus hopefully I can get over 5000 miles lol MV AGusta dealer network and their customer service team pretty much left me hanging for about a year.. hopefully they allow me to extend my warranty since the bike hasn’t been in operation for over a year which fingers crossed but we’ll see what happens personally, the rear break going out because of the recall is a little more concerning than the silly bogging problem but hey, I mostly stop on the front break anyways thank God I’m an experienced rider. I would never want to put a rider of less than two years on this type of motorcycle especially because the brakes can randomly go out not only that, but if you’re sitting in traffic for longer than five minutes, the screen will turn bright red and start flashing at you which will make you immediately want to merge into incoming traffic to cool your motorcycle down. It’s even more fun when this happens on the Miami downtown highway and you have to immediately merge into the express lane where people are flying 100 miles an hour behind you to try and cool your bike down. Yes I’ve done it. No it’s not fun. I’m still alive to talk about it. Call me what you want. I still love the Bike, I’ve always loved this bike ever since I first saw it at my very first bike night when I was 18 years old. It sounds amazing it rides like no other that is one thing I will say.
to hell with all those people that tell you don’t sleep with that girl she’s no good for you or don’t buy that car. It’s too much power for you. Listen if you’re not buying shit that isn’t gonna kill you you’re not a friend of mine, secondly, all your friends, especially the ones that Ride are going to want to be sitting next to you at bike night and at events you’re going to get a lot of good attention, and most of all the way this bike rides is very very different than any other 600 or 750 or 900 or liter bike… I mean, maybe it’s the reverse crank, but this thing sucks you into every corner and I will say this for the money in the headache and all of the heartache you’re gonna go through with this bike. Every time you do hit that ignition and she starts… eventually, you are going to have a blast each and every ride.
Even though it has a lot of rider aids and updates it still feels like the early 2000s analog bikes and like some of the 90s bikes it still has some raw emotion to it. It still feels special and it’s definitely worth the experience. Yes if you are going to waste your money on a rare stupidly font Motorcycle this is the one to do it. I highly advise you to do it and take it to the race track because that’s really worth these things excel but hey if you catch me there just make sure you get my better side 😏
Also replace the LED headlight bulb with aftermarket lose the weather cap YOLO🎉
Funny sidenote, I was gonna have it shipped to Monkey Moto Texas whenever Miami couldn’t deliver, but MV wouldn’t cover the tow lol!!
Wow!
Quite the journey you have been on...
Ownership of high performance European machines of all categories certainly comes with its challenges, but it is worth the headache in my eyes.
RAW. POWERFUL. NIMBLE. BEAUTIFUL.
Motorcycle Art.
@@themotoseoulTrust the process, it’s well worth the journey. Haven’t had this much fun since my 05 750 and 07 cbr600rr bike just pulls you in.
Also the more of these we put on the street the better. It adds more to these types of brands which being so unique they are less wasteful on a one size fits all for the masses of different CC’s big box brand bike.
Keeps the raw feel and makes riding fun again a step back from the insane power of superbikes today.
@@zakoctavian1891 No doubt.
The 798cc seems to be the perfect size for me.
Bro, I'm not trying to chastise you, but quite a few of these issue can be solved. Obviously the solutions are outside of the manufacturer's guidelines so guys at the dealership will not tell you about options which are non-standard and they do not want to support.
I run an F3 800 2014, and that clutch lockout could be bypassed via several options, you may* be able to find that check in the ECU on your model and disable it in a software like ECU studio, or if it is a hard switch that won't signal the starter relay without the clutch in you could just tweak your wiring. Alternatively and I recognize this is less approachable, you could introduce signal logic (the clutch lever literally just grounds a connection via a small switch) with a microcontroller like arduino nano. This way when the microcontroller detects the engine is off (just have it read a tach signal or something, I think this can be done on newer models from the CAN bus) it automatically grounds the clutch sensor line, and then as soon as the engine is running your code will release the ground and your clutch sensor works as normal.
I don't know if they drastically changed the headlight for 2022, but you should just be able to swap your halogen bulb for a LED array. Sometimes these need additional resistors to ensure you don't over current them so take note of that and I would measure the resistance of your factory hallogen.
Another thing to remember is that our bikes are just that, bikes. So long as it is tastefully and skillfully done, you can MAKE any part for your MV. The factory headers are just stainless on most models, so you can make whatever exhaust config you want out of 316 tube, etc. Guys discard the factory headers frequently, but a spare on ebay and cut it to use for the flange, then fab up whatever you want.
These bikes are more of a platform to build off of, and if you purchase modifications based on part measurements rather than a note explicitly approving said part for your model you can save a ton of time waiting for mail from San Marino
I will give up the ghost in respect to the wiring. It could be tucked better, but for me it is already difficult to get to various connectors without a fair amount of disassembly. Fortunately the ECU programming port is under your passenger seat and easy to get to.
On the note of your ECU the really awesome thing is that it is factory unlocked so you can edit everything and flash whatever map you want. Check out ECU Studio
www.ecustudio.com/bikes/MV/mv.html
Look at some build threads for the guys who race our bikes. They get into machining parts that don't exist and doing really deep modding.
www.mvagusta.net
Wow... That is quite the comment! Hopefully you check out some of the other videos on my channel. I want to be very clear, I LOVE THIS BIKE!
This video is really meant to just be five things that I dislike about the bike and believe me I had to dig deep to find five! Even then I was really only able to come up with a few annoyances more than true dislikes...
Thanks for watching!
Also thanks for the links I will have to check those out!
@@themotoseoul I like to encourage people to navigate beyond their current limitations. I recognize that your dislikes were more of annoyances based on your tonality and statements in the video. Surely you could understand how the audience might misinterpret your affection with the video as titled.
Like I said, I'm not trying to beat you up man, clearly you are testing things out trying to navigate the youtube formula. Perhaps consider this, you could offer value to your audience by documenting your journey of fixing the dislikes you have mentioned. Imagine that content, it would be detailed and unique as you could share information about how you maneuvered around the dealer limitations to genuinely and in a truly innovative way. By sharing intricate and uncommon information that you learn on your journey you would be releasing high-value content that enthusiasts would share naturally, thus leveraging a more effective mechanism than video title to spread your content.
Further you would likely appeal to a broader audience addressing one of the common difficulties that afflict niche channels. For example if you built, or participated in the creation of an add-in logic controller to safely address the 'clutch to start' procedure that you dislike many gearheads in general would have an interest regardless of vehicle because you are showing them that if a solution is not available for purchase it does not mean that they are stuck with what they have, only that they need to broaden the methods they use to solve the problem. I get that it may not be yourself who designs the controller or writes the code, but given the simple circuit required and how little logic is needed you may be surprised by the talent that could be recruited to help with such a project.
You could even start with the LED array, as this is quite approachable. Years ago in my late teens I HATED anything electrical because I couldn't fully comprehend how things were working and was terrified to burn something up. I looked into driving an LED headlight with the factory circuit to avoid modifying anything. I figured if I could replicate the same electrical conditions as the factory bulb with whatever I connected to the halogen plug then there was no way I would kill anything.
Actually I just pulled myself from engineering/design land for a moment and remembered that we aren't working on some old 70's bike here and that for a headlight you need not cook up a solution yourself.
The bulbs our bikes use are common H4 automotive bulbs, you can get an LED array that fits the H4 socket and form factor I'll link below. If you want to be absolutely certain there will be no issue electrically just measure the resistance value of the stock bulb with a $10 multi-meter when you are doing the replacement. There are 3 terminals on an H4 bulb one for high-beam, one for low-beam, and one for ground. On the stock bulb measure the resistance from high-beam to ground, and from low beam to ground. If the resistance values (will be displayed in Ohms) are close then you can be 100% certain you will not have any issues. I cannot imagine that the manufactures of H4 LED arrays/bulbs wouldn't have ensured this but if you need that extra verification that is how to do it.
I get that this is not supposed to be a forum post, but I suppose MV is a brand I feel a duty to maintain and uplift. Having been started by Count Domenico Agusta and having deep history I feel these machines are misunderstood. They are Sammarinese artwork first, a race machine second, and are sold as street bikes.
As you said San Marino is already struggling to fill orders, and if those who know cloister the knowledge of how to deal with these machines inevitably these bikes will fall to the proletariat, and that is a knee we cannot bend.
I am user "R.Martin" on mvagusta.net, feel free to reach out to me and I'll share how you can approach your MV in a way where you will do right by the Count and make some properly deep content for your viewers along the way.
If any of this has been insightful perhaps this video could be renamed something like "Things to address on my Mv Agusta F3" and server as the start to an engaging modification series.
H4 LED array - www.amazon.com/Ursprung-FAHREN-Upgraded-Headlight-Brighter/dp/B0BYNS1QLZ/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?crid=2FICKIOB440OX&keywords=h4+LED&qid=1683862928&sprefix=h4+led%2Caps%2C190&sr=8-3-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFLWURQVlNNM0pNVzMmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA4ODQ1ODQzU1ZHSlFWUVY5SCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzA4NTkxMlo2MTgwSTVXTk5NWiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
H4 connector pinout - www.accessnorton.com/NortonCommando/h4-bulb-pins.24581/
Multimeter - www.amazon.com/gp/slredirect/picassoRedirect.html/ref=pa_sp_atf_aps_sr_pg1_1?ie=UTF8&adId=A0464979DMSKNZP87EVH&qualifier=1683864245&id=3049418005155066&widgetName=sp_atf&url=%2FEtekcity-Multimeter-MSR-R500-Electronic-Multimeters%2Fdp%2FB01N9QW620%2Fref%3Dsr_1_4_sspa%3Fcrid%3D3KPRRYBO0GV25%26keywords%3Dmultimeter%26qid%3D1683864245%26sprefix%3Dmultimeter%252Caps%252C120%26sr%3D8-4-spons%26psc%3D1
The title of this video will remain the same.
If you are truly as passionate and knowledgeable about the MV brand as you say, maybe you should take your own advise and start a CZcams channel where you provide content that you consider valuable...
As for me, I'm going to keep enjoying my bike, and making entertaining motovlogs that I enjoy.
Thanks for watching!
@@themotoseoul I can understand that, I have thought many times about documenting the builds, fabrication, machining, and electronics. My issue is that I know it is a serious undertaking starting a channel and with all of the other work I concluded that I would not be able to commit to it.
I only offered the series concept because it seems you are already invested in the filming aspect and I know there are plenty of guys like me who do detailed work and even crazier stuff than I am presently able to do who would contribute to your efforts but can't film themselves or prefer to be ghosts.
The only bike they make today that doesn’t have LED’s yet is the Superveloce. The F3 and F4 both have LED headlights now 😉
Saw that on the new models.
Need to order an updated headlight, hopefully its a drop in upgrade!
You pretty much echoed what other MV owners told me when I asked their opinions. Very few dealers, slow parts support, unreliable and next to little aftermarket goodies. It's also a two hour drive to the closest dealer (same one you are at). The MV Agusta owners pretty much told me to get the Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 instead of the Brutale.
My vote still goes to MV!
In my country there is no official dealer at all. But I still own a beautiful bike MV Agusta F4RR and get a real kick out of it.
@@magmuz1 That is a beautiful machine that you have there!
A huge pro of my country is that it's so small that even with just one mv agusta dealer it's close enough for anyone in the country and the other pro is that italy is a 2 hour flight away
@@Lucky_MiTo. Very nice, MV's for all!
Why do the majority of bike videos show the bikes on boring highways built for cars?
@@jeremykeller211 No good riding roads near me…
Watching this video while my MV Agusta is in the shop, waiting on the 1700 bill.
Sorry to hear that brother... despite the challenges associated with all Italian bikes, its still worth the pleasure of owning them when they work!
Weird, my 2019 dragster RR didn’t have the clutch start thing that you mentioned 😅
Maybe just on Euro5 bikes? Thanks for watching!
Hello!! It's because yours has an hydraulic clutch
Hello!! No it's because your bike has a cable traditional clutch. My 2015 Dragster RR was the same and now that I have a 2022 Dragster with hydraulic clutch, no clutch needed to start it.@@themotoseoul
@@brianbaldassarri7749Thanks for the education, and thanks for watching!
I wanted to get a Super Veloce, but there are more dealers and aftermarket support for Ducati. So I ended up with a Panigale instead. Still want an MV though maybe whenever I sell my Aprilia RS660. 😂
The superveloce is pretty dope, I like the retro style. MV triple engines are so unique, beautiful sound. You wont be disappointed!
@@themotoseoulIs this your only bike? Im torn on a 2018 or the 2022.
Yes sir, my one and only bike...
Also my first bike so my opinion may not hold much water.
@@themotoseoul I only ask for reliability purposes and how long you’d have to go without a bike if it’s in the shop. I am looking at a 2018 but it would be a second bike.
I believe that most of the issues I have had with the bike stem from low quality batteries being used. From what I understand the battery the bike comes with lacks the power necessary to reliably start the bike. This causes the starter clutch issues these bikes are know for.
My factory battery was replaced with lithium under warranty in June of last year. No issues since then.
Hey man how's the ride height? I'm 5ft 9 and was wondering how comfortable It would be for someone of my height
You should be fine... I'm only like 5' 7-8. Thanks for watching!
I have a 2023 Ducati V2 Bayliss and a 2009 MV Agusta F4 312RR. When I want to turn up somewhere to turn heads, I always take the F4 over the Bayliss. MVs are just a world apart from any other bike in terms of their beauty!
Could not agree more my friend.
Thanks for watching!
Why can’t you start it without pulling the clutch? I can on my f3
I was told it has a "clutch lock out feature" you can press the starter button all you want on this bike it will not turn the engine over unless the clutch is pulled in. Maybe this is new on the euro5 bikes? What year is your f3?
@@themotoseoulgot a 2014 f3 series oro. Same thing with the clutch. Pull it or else it won’t crank. I see it similar to pushing the brake to start on a car, some brands got it. Others don’t
Yes sir. Sick bike!
Probably the best looking sports bike around
I could not agree more. There is reason MV Agusta slogan is "Motorcycle Art"
How do you like Monkey Moto. Besides the fact that it is such a pain in the you know what to get there. They seem really arrogant on the phone everytime I call them.
Honestly not a fan....
I will not elaborate in an effort not to badmouth a local company.
I only use them for warranty issues.
Any services I pay for out of pocket I use NTX Superbikes which is also in Argyle, TX. In fact its in the same business park as Monkey Moto.
@@themotoseoul Thanks man. Good, So I am not alone. It is very frustrating dealing with them. But since they seem to be the only show in town for MV's. I seem to be stuck with them for my F4. European cycle sports in Plano is only willing to do oil changes.
Is NTX superbikes willing to work on MV's?
And are they good ?
Thanks in advance!
Yes sir, NTX Superbikes would be my recommendation for anyone with a exotic bike!
The owner of the shop has done all the non warranty work on my bike! Installed race headers and exhaust, charcoal canister delete, race ecu, tire swaps, oil changes and other routine maintenance...
That dude is a wizard with all bikes!
@@themotoseoul Thanks Bud! I appreciate it.
As with most italian crap, they're nice to look and ride, but this means they need to work first, and that is very difficult for those brands
Worth the trouble in my opinion. Bike has so much character. Been running very well for awhile now, just had to work out a few quirks early on...
Not avail in my country..if avail, i will definetly grab one❤😎😍😇
I'm considering a Superveloce 800. It wouldn't be my only bike as a have another; however, I keep hearing things about MV reliability. The gold one looks sick :)!
Not any more or less reliable than other euro bikes.
MV = A Lot of Maintenance and A Lot of Patience 👍
All Italian bikes I suppose... beautiful machines though!!
You removed the mole from cyndi Crawfords face! 😢
@@godzla69 I guess this reference goes beyond me…
I would change the battery right now and the sprag will hold up a lot longer it's not a fun job, it is also warranty for the life of the bike because MV Agusta knew about it. the original sprag lasted about 500 miles, dealer replaced it for free with the upgraded sprag although it still cost me money to get it there 70 miles and return... the updated sprag started to make noise at around 7,000 miles so I added the lithium battery, and this calmed it down a lot... at 15,000 miles it took a shit and it cost me a $600.00 towing bill from the Berkley Marina back to Empire about 100 miles away...I don't blame the bike because I knew it had the problem my bad!
Interesting, you are not the first person who has recommended a battery change. I was out riding today and the bike would not start, luckily I was at the dealership for their open house so I left it there. I will speak with them early next week about changing the battery. Thanks for the advise!
@@themotoseoul I would also buy the socket for removing the rear wheel I carry it with me on long rides the chain adjusting spanner wrench too...I did some pretty long rides including the saddle sore 1000.. 1,065 miles in 22hrs...the engine is a bad ass!
1000 miles on an F3 that’s gangster shit!
@@themotoseoul 800 Dragster RR...stock seat and no added wind protection...I made a video of the trip.
Ahh yes, you did say Dragster RR in your original post. Still GANGSTER!
I want one just for an art piece hahaha
Living room worthy for sure!
aw man your not as active in posting on youtube anymore! :(
Yes, stopped vlogging for the time being.
Real life commitments have taken precedence, still enjoy the rare spirited ride on the MV though! Would love to get out more with the old crew!
Had a 2020 BMW S1000RR............Traded it in for an old 2015 MV AGUSTA F3 800. BMW is a German porn star did everything only good to look at. MV AGUSTA is Italian catwalk model doesn't cook or clean but wow she looks amazing.
I ❤ my F4RR
Yes! MV makes sick bikes!
Such a shame since its one of the best looking, best sounding bike mankind has ever seen
No doubt, beautiful bike indeed. I love this machine despite its many flaws…
Bro ur out of your mind.. There absolutely is an led headlight bulb for that bike..
The new year model comes with LED.
"the cool, turn your key on and start you button with one hand" seriously? man why the hell did you buy this bike if you don't know anything about bikes?
Because I am a baller!
Aftermarket parts? On best quality bikes ever? Sell quickly is not for u.
Not sure what this means, I have no intentions of selling this bike!
Dude, GO TO AN AFTERMARKET PARTS STORE AND BUY AN LED KIT FOR THE BIKE! It's not that hard 🤦🏻♂️
I'm aiming for the Brutale 1000 RR Assen (no need to improve on a perfect bike).
@@Ibby.M.I.786 too hard.
And now your video is rendered useless since KTM now owns MV and they will use the same dealer locations and service centers... Also, your video would only apply to NA. Not Europe.
@@thepineappleburster4439 Did they officially make that happen? I know they have talked about it for a few years… if so that is great news for all MV owners!
Just say... Italian.
I mean... you're not wrong! Thanks for watching!
Wow. "Don't buy this bike" as he's sitting on one. You're a hypocrite, and a bad customer. MV Agusta doesn't legally have to do business with you, and if I were them, I'd cut ties.
@@TheJoker-gg8hc Not sure you watched the video….
Hey… I bought my bike from there…
Monkey Moto? What MV do you have?