Do We Have A Tendency To Exaggerate Comparisons Between Pakistan & Bangladesh? | Barkha Dutt
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A 14-member interim government in Bangladesh, under the leadership of Noble Laureate Muhammad Yunus, was sworn in on Thursday, August 7, three days after Sheikh Hasina stepped down as Prime Minister and left the the country after mass protests.
Is a post-Hasina dispensation likely to be more illiberal hinged with religious fervour? Is there a tendency to exaggerate the comparisons between Pakistan & Bangladesh? Does the Jamaat wield any significant influence?
This, and a lot more, as Barkha Dut speaks to Salil Tripathi & Sadanand Dhume.
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People who really think Jamaat is a spent force are living in a fool's paradise
Do you live in Bangladesh?
I agree. These people have no idea about the power structure and politics of Bangladesh.
I have to say that the the Islamists became more hardcore but what this average students (who are mostly secular ) did was nothing out of crazy. 500 of them just died without any fear just because they wanted a free Bangladesh.
@@No-one- Where are you getting this data from ?
Indians seem to know more about Bangladesh us than we do! Great! We hate Jamat. Jamat could never manage to get even 1% votes in any elections. As far as going to the power with the help of BNP, we won't allow that to happen. So, stop worrying about our democracy. It’s in safe hands. ❤
Tripathi has got very clear understanding of Bangladesh. Sadanand are you mad? are you really calling it Military Cue ? more than 1000 students have been killed and you are calling it military cue? Even Awamilig doesn't say this. You must get well soon. Shame on you that you just undermined the students revolution.
Stop screwing up with a 1000 dead. Stop being ridiculous. Get facts correct.
There pictures and videos of lynching of people supposed to be supporting Hasina. These r being lynched brutally irrespective of their religion. Bringing down of Statues or buring if homes are nothing in front of brutalities which the media is not talking about.
Carry on with your dillusion...as long as the ideology stays the ground will remsin fertile
In simple words, Bangladesh has terrible corruption, price rise-inflation, financial mis-apprpriation, poor health management. The poor are extremly poor and there are extremely rich people, finally extreme authoritarian administration. So, someone started a flame and it turned into a big fire which consumed the entire Govt. India's interests are to be seen separately. We have to do what we have to do, without hurting individual Bangladeshis. This is a multipolar world, we should stay aware of that.
India always tends to show Bangladesh negatively in absence of Hasina.
Hasina was keeping the terrorists under control and was making progress in terms of trade. All we hope is the current dispensation to keep the extremists under control and do business.
Thats not fact, thats ur opinion,we know the fact@@XYZ555-ts7pk
@@XYZ555-ts7pkhasina was terrorist
Some of the panelists seem to live in their own world!
I have been to that country on more than one occasion and found that a good section of the population never liked their founding father, instead resented the creation of the country!
They feel they were better off with Pakistan (& the muslim first identity).
And, mind you that section of the population is not small or largely illiterate, no!
It is that section of the population (and political spectrum) who got politically marginalised over the years of Hasina’s rule.
ably supported by external forces like Pakistan (Pakistan had a ideological ready base with that section of the population ) , USA, China (overtly or covertly ), and the icing on the cake was “the student unrest against reservation “ turned the tide!
It is to be noted that tell tell signs of what’s coming was there for months, like the boycott India program (it was not published by the Indian media and social media however). I wonder what was our intelligence community doing ! 🤔
EFM Jaishankar is Total Failure in Sub Continent from ( Nepal to Maldives and Now Bangladesh )
People accepted BJP a hindutva party in india which is clearly not very friendly but problem with muslim brotherhood in egypt and Jamat e islami in bangladesh? Double standards
fun fact ! islam came from present day saudi arabia and expanded by genociding pagans and other religions
Why India is so scared..no one in South Asia or anywhere in the world is so much bothered about Bangladesh 🇧🇩 ..Grow up India
Why Bangladeshi muslims live in india? By millions
Dude do you know the problem is fear of Pakistan terrorists enters India via Bangladesh. No other country gets affected but we are the one who gets affected. So hope you understand
@@akshithjuloori1956 Protect your Border , It is not your Business who is in Power In Bangladesh
@@Psychologyfunbd if you send terrorists then it absolutely is our business ! we already have illegal bangladeshis living in cities . how do i know it ? cause they dont speak local language
czcams.com/video/lBafhuhV-FU/video.html , that is what happened to Lebanon and everywhere where the Muslims got into power
Incomplete partition is incomplete removal of kanser. period.
As a 30 years old Bangladeshi let me say something about Mujibs Statues being tumbled : We have been force fed Mujib's statues, pictures and name for last 15 years. Hasina acted like there is no other Leader in Bangladeshi history except for her father. As an example you can take a look at the BDT paper notes. Now people are vomiting it out. Besides as a Muslim majority nation, people are not fond of statues, does not matter whose.
And it seems to me Jamat is THE boogeyman for all Indians.
I wished it was just a boogeyman However, it is pointless for me to express my fears and can only hope that Bangladesh gets back to cruising speed. I can hardly find a logic for democracy to strive when there is strong Islamist support. To make matters worse I also suspect that Pakistan is at least covertly involved and these people are for for economic progress.
@@XYZ555-ts7pk Why cant you accept that? thats my question
@@raykh1086 your army literally killed him and the same army that is under scrutiny by UN for over a year over assault on civilian . not to forget your army also has big influence from 1971 pakistan
@@sagarshetty3175 What can I do over the keyboard here?
You should look at all these events through the eyes of Bangladeshi people, not through Indian eyes. Mujibur Rahman was an opportunist leader, remained in the hope to the last minute before crackdown by Pak army, to become prime minister of Pakistan. It's true he was the darling of almost 95% people before independence, but after his return from Pak jail, he virtually became Shahinsah of Iran. He was busy placing his relatives and cronies in important and crucial positions and was unable to control his relatives and partymen from looting and plundering the country. He couldn't control famine that happened in the district of Rangpur, where 2-3 lakh died due to mismanagement and stealing of relief materials by his partymen. During his tyrannical rule, he abolished democracy and tried to establish one party rule. He killed 35-40 thousand of his opponents, mostly youths, using his infamous Rakhi Bahini. Further, you should remember 85% people of this land are muslim, and there is no place in Islam to put idols of someone, how famous or revered he may be, in public places to be worshipped. His daughter named all iconic places, including safari parks, important roads, buildings, educational institutions, and every landmark visible in Bangladesh, mostly in his or his family's name. As an example; there are two safari parks, both in his name. So the anger of people on his and his daughter's dictatorial rule, indiscriminate killing and disappearance of people, fraudulently her getting elected for two consecutive terms by utilising forces under her control, hurting the religious sentiment of people by erecting idols of him in public places etc. all lead the people in dismantling his idols and dishonouring him. Please read the history of Bangladesh carefully from it's inception and you will understand why this is happening now. People are fed up with these two family owned political parties, Awami League and BNP, and their opportunist cronies. There are no democratic processes inside these parties themselves or other smaller parties, except Jamaat-e-Islami, where leaders are chosen on the basis of family inheritance. Again, Jamaat-e-Islami, in their history, have always tried to raw their boat against the tide by taking stands always against the will of the people. Mujib's family think Awami League and Bangladesh are their parental properties. On the other hand, the family of Zia thinks BNP and Bangladesh are Khaleda Zia's marriage dowry and consequently inheritance of her children. Thanks.
I am from Bangladesh and Mr Sadanand is wrong. He has a traditional or simplistic view of the situation. Bangladesh is going through a political and social transformation. You have to be here to understand it properly.
bangladesh army chief has said few days back, that everyone can live peacefully and that he had ordered their army not to shoot anyone.
Only after this announcement, the jamaat e islaami extremists started attacking hindus in full swing...
Lol where you get Jamat attacked Hindu houses? Also during Violence mostly Muslims suffered and persons who got killed from them 99% are Muslims, and 1% might be Hindus. But you showing concerns about that 1% only?
where????? show me a single clip that does so. Stupid'
Where is your evidence for that? Messages from supporters of the former government, the Awami League, were leaked online where they planned to target minority places of worship to create chaos and animoisty in communities before they leave.
Fun fact: both Dr. Yunus and President Biden are same age. Dr. Yunus is far more active in mind and body. For Indian audience, his in laws stay at Burdwan disstrict in West Bengal, an well educated emancipated family. So, he is our jamai. Lets be less harsh on him.
I consider Bukha dutt is high steam , but on Bangladesh issue she is really disappointing.
Her narrative is insulting to the sacrifices the young Bangladeshis .
It is not at all a military coup. It is a pure student revolution.
Don't avoid corruption.
One is dalal of Hasina.
The students did not have the power or strength to oust the government. this could not be done without the army intervention
@@XYZ555-ts7pk Yes they can. When the number is more than 10 millions, they become the weapon. Not even the largest army would dare to challenge them!!
@@mostafazaman1734 I hope you are right and my fear is that in such a void the only organised power might be the Islamists pushing their extremist politics. Again, I am hoping to be wrong.
Is Mr. Sadanand suggesting Bangladeshi people to choose their leader keeping the benefit of India in mind instead of its own rights?
Indian most Indian videos and critics like Mr Sadanand are doing the same mistake as sheikh hasina. She tried to level all her critics as radical Islamists and Jamati , which angered the students even more and resulted her downfall. Still Indian media is referring the protesters as Islamist.
How do you expect Bangladeshi to support India when you don't recognise the opinion of our people, Just because you fear the people's Govt. will not blindly/ one sidedly benefit you like Hasina?
How about bringing in quantitative data where possible? Why don’t you compare the demographic trends, for instance? Start with Hindu population in Bangladesh, Hindu population in Pakistan, and Muslim population in India?
BD's dictator & India's darling is finally kicked out.
tripathi says well
All the Indi alliance leaders who visited Manipur, why they did not go to Bangladesh Hindus?
Possibly they don't want to risk getting butchered!😂
Salute to Tripathi for telling the truth. Hasina's arrogancy make this to down her father statue, besides Hasina destroy her own party cause she flee the country only save her life. She even didn't talk to any member in her party. So i think she is only responsible to destroy Sk.Mujibur Rahman"s dedication for the Bangladesh.
Barkha .. I was born and lived in BD for 38 yrs before coming to EUROPE. I studied there in University, studied in India and working abroad. Mentality of majority Muslims very hostile to Indian culture specifically Hindu traditions. Even we Bangalis were secular like Panjabi.But that ended after 1965. Gradually hostility to Hindus increased significantly. They started changing dress code, indulged in very aggressive attitude to Hindu traditions in East Pakistan. After 1976 Jamat openly was in the politics and silently got hold of institutions dominating other anti Indian political parties. Now they are in a position to eatup anti Indian political fronts like BNP who is a one of the 2 main parties. Now what is going to happen in next election I guarantee that they will win 40% of seats with a coalition I believe they are working on with Hifazat , Islamic Okkyo Jot and few other Sunni Islamic fronts. Even BNP win 59% of constituency they will not dare to do anything against Jammats interest. The reason is Jammat has access and influence with in Military, student Institutions , finance sectors and they are guided by a similar model of activities like Muslim Brotherhood, Hiszbollah like ultra radical organisation. More to add they have open access to ISI of Pakistan .
Burkha is herself a Jamati. She once justified hindu genocide inKasmir.
Really! You cannot be a Bangladeshi lived in Bangladesh because of the way you are explaining about them.😊
Don’t glamorize Muslim youth protecting temples . Same yard sticks are not applied when such event happens in India
Once we understand whom they are protecting from, we will realize where the threat is coming from.
Muslim youth protecting Hindu temples from Indian RAW agents. There it is. The bitter truth.
No, it is part of Islamic Sharia to protect them.
I guess Muslims protecting minorities in Bangladesh shatters your fragile beliefs based on hatred and religious prejudice.
If it did happen in India, it would be celebrated.
But when has this happened in India?
Also if it did, the RWers would be the first to xriticize this.
Islam has its own Power,, doesn't need favour of governments. It governs it self.
The big question is whether Bangladesh would once again become, though remote, East Pakistan
Instead of lamenting on loss of.lives and property of.minorties Ms Dutt justifying &downplaying the atrocities as collateral damages.
Modi should take care of the minorities of India, especially those living in Manipur. And stop all these villyfications.
Sadanand is right...other man is biased & influenced by his Bangladeshi friends...it will be very less optimistic days ahead with out Seikh Hasina .
Sheikh Mujib's statues and pictures were the whips used by the autocrat to trigger intimidation in people. Building those never increased respect for Mujib in the country and demolition of those did not give a good vibe for Bangladesh to the world either. However, the fact remains that Sheikh Hasina is the sole reason for her father's fall in 2024. Also, 99% of the statues were very ugly, poor in build quality, and not even close to how Mujib looked. They were just a mess and people also have had enough.
Excellent discussion
Bharkha don't ask why Indira Gandhi Cultural centre was destroyed. She will only project San Pitroda's skewed views. Rahul is waiting in the wings.
It's a government job revolution.🔥🔥🔥
Instead of outright condemnation, South Asian nations should introspect on their treatment of minorities to determine if they truly uphold liberal values. India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh, among others, must examine their policies and decision-making processes. Minority groups should have autonomy over their affairs, with reforms, if necessary, initiated and led by the communities themselves.
Many Bangladeshi citizens view the recent student protests as a revolutionary struggle against authoritarian rule. While this is understandable, it does not explain the attacks on Awami League supporters, including celebrities. What about the targeting of Bangladeshi Hindus and their temples? Despite the existence of Muslims who protect their Hindu neighbors, underlying communalism is evident within society. A people-centered democratic model is needed for the country.
To uphold the principles of secularism, a strong argument can be made for removing Islam as the state religion of Bangladesh. While some believe religious belief can strengthen secular credentials, others question the need for a state-imposed religious identity, especially one established by a dictator in the mid-1980s
Modi is taking interest in Hasina case to divert the attention of opposition and public this will turn into his waterloo
This was a good discussion
Barkha is back to her
dirty pro-Islamist games. Even if someone has a desire to be overly fair, would one WANT to be fair to a toxic, communal
Jamaat-e-Islami. That itself tells you where her sympathies lie.
Maybe she should actually check-out gor herself the situation in Bangladesh...
Infact Jamat is more stronger than Bnp now and large numbers of students, young people f bangladesh are radicalized. Recent anti government protest showed that. That's the biggest worries cause they are the futures for country. Bangladesh s heading to far right
Very good discussion. Will wait with patience to see good come out of this calamity. Discussants were all well intentioned for the good of Bangladesh and view India as the most useful friend. Student leaders also seem to be mature well intentioned.
According to Mr. Tripathi nothing has happened in Bangladesh. Before listening to such mindsets we never used to realize why cartoons and superhero characters are so popular... They are far far away from reality. In their world its all hunky-dory.
LISTEN INDIANS >>> FIRST DHAKA FALL ON 16.12.1971 -- PAK. MUSLIMS OUT --- SECOND DHAKA FALL ON 5.8.2024 - BINGALI HINDU OUT -- AS YOU SOW SO SHALL YOU REAP - HA HA HA HA MM.ALI
Indias Puppet Hasina ruled with an iron fist.
Indias Mody can keep Hasina as his new Bride.
Imf beggar and polio superpower Pakistan agrees
Sadanand is mostly right. Salil is on the other end
Daily Star reported 27 districts with details names of towns villages of houses ,buisnesses place of worships
Enforced dissappearances of political opponents , Kidnapping and Locking people up in dungeons for 10 years is not a 'mistake'.
Manufacturing elections is not a mistake.
Crushing any and all dissent is not a mistake.
Practically trying to enforce a one party state, while targetting and clamping down on opposition parties, their affiliates and family members is not a mistake.
Im sorry if you feel like bangladeshis should overlook tyranical rule sorry...mistakes...because she kept good relations with india.
What world is your expert living in?
FM: NOOR M Chaudhry
To: BARKHA {DUTT}
Info: 2 other Associates
Namaskar: with due respects and regards.
I served in East PAk during 1971, have few BangalEE friends. Through them I have the first hand information that during Hasina’s government, there were RAW agents installed in every police station in Bangladesh, this is her biggest crime. She was assisted governing Bangladesh, plus ever Indians were coming & going back to India without passport entries, the Indians doing in west Pakistan during PM Nawaz sharif exmpal PM Modi & his group of associates plus steel business man without visa without Passports.
Do you what the RAW agents were doing in every police station, they were making sure every thing is carried out on the desire of Indians {PM}’s choices.
Why these were not discussed in your dialogue, Miss BARKHA DUTT. This is a discredit into your performance.
NOOR.M. Chaudhry
Hasina was the worst ruler. Even her father was a better one compared to herself. Autocrat army-backed ruler Hussain Muhammad Ershad is just a kid compared to this *beach.
Shiekh Hasina had developed Bangladesh and it's GDP is more than Indian.
Not GDP, but GDP per capita. But it was also dependent on one industry, textiles.
Hasina was the worst ruler. Even her father was a better one compared to herself. Autocrat army-backed ruler Hussain Muhammad Ershad is just a kid compared to this old *beach.
Sadanand not telling the all truth. Military did'nt revolt. Military save her life and controll the plan of hasina's blood bath plan forBangladeshi people
The Hindu community people are linked to Awami league and political activities.
Jamaat hardly has followers, 80% of the population hardly take them serious. I live in Bangladesh trust me on this.
Barkha is such an intillegent woman.
After 4th June,barkha is back to her former self defending islamist radicals
We love exaggerated details We practice double standards all the time! Reason why fake narratives, innuendoes thrive abd those who practice it on social media earn millions. Difficult for them to accept that students of Bangladesh have pulled off a miracle. Respect them! Respect Bangladesh instead of churning conspiracy theories! The deaths of minorities is no doubt concerning and very unfortunate but do see the overall context of most of them being awami supporters at the receiving end of the angst against hasina
people's talk, Govt, where governing nd running by BJP RSS.., Did? they foreign policy were discussing nd consulting along with LOP r else any other opposition leaders.., such case, how! they govt expecting nd dragging under those conspiracy to respond about unknown issues..,
If india so care for sheikh hasina,then replace modi with sheikh hasina .Sheikh hasina will save india for seven sisters and west bengal.
Do not make useless comment.
@@Desabhakth when Hindu students and other minorities students killed by chhatra leuge and hasina's forces the. where you people?
Yes!
As an Indian, I agree with tripathi
No dear..they are very very similar now
Bangladeshi citizens whoever may be , won't be permitted at any circumstances.
Mr sadanan you are blind folded... Come out from that bubble...
Rabinauth statue too was taken down.
Sahdatam very true what all you said.
This community has intentionally looted and torched the house which is greatly praised in art lobby .i personally visited his house ,he has great amount of antique music instruments .
What is going to happen to 13 million Hindus in Bangladesh is different from what is going to happen to 10000 hindu Indians in Bangladesh. It is former issue that is relevant. the 10000 indian nationals can return home…So on the main question, it is probably going to be worse for bangladeshi Hindus now than it was for them in Hasinas regime…..sadly that much is likely…… but the Bangladeshi response for this concern by India will be : it will still not be as bad as it has been for Indian muslims in India in the last decade or so, because Bangladesh is a more syncretic society than India and bangladeshi hindus are culturally all bengali^. The logic is unfortunate but probably roughly right.
Other than minorities, even moderate, liberal, secular muslims, communists, all leftists in Bangladesh face challenges against those people with extreme religious view whose numbers are increasing rapidly.
What about BJP and rss , ?
We need to demand protection of minorities in Bangladesh! Where is the outrage?
First give the Muslims protection in India
@@fishing-gardening-travelling Protection from what? Sharia? ISIS? Triple Talak? Jihadi/Talibani Mindset? Brainwashing? Or, modernization?
Madam please watch the movie "'Hirok Rajar Deshe'' by Sttayajit Roy, prominent Bengali movie director and writer of west bengal and Remember the dialogue ...Dori DHore Maro Taan,, Raja Hobe Khan Khan (Pull the rope and the king will fall) that king Character was also a DICTATOR! then perhaps you will understand what has happened to the Statue of M/R in Bangladesh, It seems all india godi media lost its Dimag Ka Batti, And experiencing wide spread load shading of wit..
All jamaat needs is 2 seats and a bunch of butthurt and disillusioned Awami League rank and file to put their stamp of medievalish authority on things. Call records, gps surveillance etc should confirm this hypothesis ( I'd be happy to be proved wrong )
A bais hindu criticizing Muslim 😂😂
barkha you are no expert...watch the interview with asad noor...that s the most authentic so far.
Usa is A Player Too
Very unfortunate events. All said and done, the economy is getting hit.
😂 I Think You Guys Have Release This Video Too Late...
Mr sadaanada is living in fools heaven. We have a foreign debt of more than 100 billion dollars and most of them plundered in the name of development,mostly redundant.
Mr sadanan you are talking bullshit...
Sadanand modis voice
Now, you are not in position to dictate Bangladesh what to do 😉😉
Bangladesh is surrounded by Hindu Buddhist nations - how much can it rebel. As long you are sane, we will be sane
Imf loan
Why a picture of smiling priest?
Why did rioters destroyed Indira Gandhi culture centre in dakha??
Why did rioters start killing Hindus in bangladesh??? Even been india supplies essential items to Bangladesh even coal for producing electricity to that country
Do you know why she keeps on saying India? Is because…… 😂
Our Bangaladesh brother have zero compassion and regret on killing of Hindus
I am speechless
Are you stupid? Every bangladeshi has a hindu neighbour. We barely have problemd with them. Never trust the media on everything you hear
who told you 27 districts?
Yours countrys newspaper
China&US?😂
You are a liar barkha?
Actual genocide happened in Bangladesh so it's not exaggeration if people fear for hindus there.The same people who say don't exaggerate are the ones claiming muslims are oppressed in India. Also what revolution is that people loot her house stealing hens and ducks😂
save Bangladesh hindu We need shek hasina she only can Protect us
Cry baby cry😂
Barkhaji most of your friends in Dhaka must be from their Lutyens area. What rural folk think is very different.
Yes,Mr. Dhume has hit very much on the right spot!
You just can not negate Hasina's achievements for B'desh. She has done enormous service for the progress and prosperity of her nation.Let us wait for the euphoria in B'desh,gets subsided to know the exact outcome of the present upheaval in there..
Keep your finger crossed and till that time Hasina must be protected by India at any cost.
dhume you are a ignorent person
It is sure that Bangaladesh's economy may go down during comming 10 years.
Salil Tripathi did his homework before coming to the show. Not a single point is exaggerated. On a very neutral ground he spoke what is true. Legit man.
Not agree with this guy who is comparing Bangladeshi's hindu with India minority. Please be honest, not a pro muslim.
Mr Dhume the biggest achievement of sheikh hasina is making Bangladesh a proxy of India in the region.
He is saying Bangladesh has no future if it distance itself from India.
He is mainly concentrated on economic progress during Hasina rule, and conveniently ignored her fascist practices she adopted to continue her unpopular rule.
Sadanand Dume has deeply flawed theories about Bangladesh and bends data to validate his misconceptions. Salil, on the other hand really understands the ground realities of Bangladesh.
Sadnan I am sorry but your facts are wrong. A lot of bloggers who spoke against regime were incarcerated. Why are they speaking without basic knowledge.
he is often wrong on facts, he sets up his position and cherry picks facts… he can’t argue against her authoritarianism , so he is taking a relativist position about the future. Except that he is confused. He wants India to encourage her not to ask for a stay… yet he wants everyone to say the future BD regime will be worse than Hasinas…. moreover his understanding of economies is not so strong