The Busiest Metro System in South America
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- Hello!
In this video I ride all 5 of São Paulo's heavy rail metro lines and share my thoughts on the system.
For all of you confused by my Portuguese pronunciation, my parents are Brazilian and I speak Portuguese at home!
Chapters:
0:00: Intro
0:12: Luz Station
1:21: Metro Facts
2:06: Line 4 - Yellow
4:48: República
6:09: Line 3 - Red
7:33: Pedro II
8:32: Sé
10:07: Line 1 - Blue
10:29: Paraíso
11:20: Line 2 - Green
12:02: Chácara Klabin
13:14: Line 5 - Lilac
14:43: Santo Amaro
16:55: Bonus Line!
17:28: Current Construction
18:07: Conclusion
Extremely interesting!
It's surely one of the best in-situ explanations of this network that I've seen.
The last jingle heard in the video at 14:29 seems very similar, if not identical, to Barcelona's station announcements. Was it a CAF train?
There's a slight error towards the beginning : you've compared São Paulo Metro's line or route length to NYC Subway's total revenue trackage, but these are two different things.
The complete transit network of São Paulo has about 380km of routes or lines. And the metro itself has at least 208 km of revenue tracks, as I guess the 104 kilometers of lines are dual tracked.
The route or line length of NYC Subway is a little over 400 km. What's 1070 km long is the total of all revenue tracks (so typically a simple 10km line or route has 20km of tracks, and a 10km express line or route has either 30 or 40 km of tracks because it has 3 or 4 tracks in total).
So the difference in length between the two in terms of lines or routes, 104km vs 400km, is more like a factor of 4, not 10.
Greetings from Paris!
Thanks for the correction! I’ve pinned your comment so others can see. And yes, the P stock trains ARE built by CAF. It’s kind of embarrassing that I didn’t notice the similarity to the Barcelona Metro jingle since I’ve been there!
@@nathantransitjwhat happened to jr nyc subway vids 😢
@@WestchesterCountyPatriot I just haven’t been to NY recently :(
16:01 probably because the last stations on line 5 were built first, and they were originally operated by CPTM
@@ms4306 Oh! I didn’t know that. Thanks!
People expect to find a miserable country full of slums and forests, and them they realize that Brazil has cities as modern and big as Tokyo, and subways better than those of NY, and that Brazilians pay everything with their mobile phone through PIX and don't use paper money.
Mas isso e culpa nossa, somos nós q vendemos essa imagem de q o Brasil é 90% favela e pobreza, obviamente q isso não é verdade muito pelo contrário, porém nós precisamos melhorar a maneira como nós vendemos o Brasil, vender o país como ele é, com qualidades e defeitos simples.
@@kenny123wwe Verdade, a mídia tem um tesão em falar mal e mostrar só coisas ruim, se é canal de tv brasileiro internacional então, só ladeira abaixo. Os americanos só exportam o que é bonito, mesmo tendo coisas feias.
Nossa você me fez perceber que fazem quase 2 anos que eu não toco em uma cédula, bizarro! Kkkkkkk
São Paulo não é 90% favela é apenas 50% favela não precisam responder em inglês o rapaz que está apresentando vídeo é brasileiro😂😂😂😂
@@moments6667 a última vez que eu vi em fontes eram só 11% da população de só q vivia em favelas, bem diferente de 50%, tá ai um problema, nós exageramos em tudo, entendo a frustração q algumas pessoas tem com o país e tal mais não precisa exagera nem inventar números né
A pristine Portuguese ( if a native English speaker).
An impressive English ( if a native Brazilian speaker).
Or a damn good AI’s work.
Portuguese speaker
@@BRWTO Wow! Congrats!
I was born in the US but my parents are Brazilian so I speak both! :)
@@nathantransitj that explains
I was confused in the exact same way
Curious fact: the unused constructed station has a lot of bed because on cold nights, the Metro company provides a place for homeless people to sleep, which is great.
This "large concrete box" style is actually called "brutalism" and you can find several buildings of such style in the city of São Paulo. Brutalism is so prolific there that is has a branch of its own called Brutalismo Paulista.
tem é? tem outro chamado inveja do paulista
@@onon2834 Cara, larga de ser ignorante! O que ele tá falando é real. O "brutalismo" é um estilo de arquitetura onde o concreto fica aparente na edificação. Ele não tá fazendo nenhuma piadinha. Quanta vergonha alheia do teu comentário, velho... 🙄
A imagem de são paulo vista de cima é uma aberração, um prédio quadrado mais feio que o outro, são paulo morreu em 1930. @@onon2834
@@lucasoliveira9834deixa o coitado KKKKKKKKKK
Inclusive existem construções no Cyberpunk 2077 que foram inspiradas na arquitetura paulista, assim como na arquitetura de Hong Kong imaginada com o brutalismo paulista e claro, outras arquiteturas também. Tem gente que diz que São Paulo vai ser uma das primeiras cidades do mundo a chegarem próximas de uma realidade "cyberpunk-like". A gente já começou a largar o dinheiro físico trocar pelo digital, pelo jeito tá começando! Kkkkkk
Wish New York’s subway was like this…
The New York system doesn't seem to be any better, of course there are problems like any very large city has. What grade would you give the New York subway in an overall assessment?
The São Paulo's is way better@@williamthierry5976
@@williamthierry5976 4.
I don’t
New York has one of the worst subways in the world! 😂 Even Caracas Venezuela's subway is way better.
São Paulo is the best! It has one of the most modern and clean metro, it's the largest city of western and southern hemispheres. It has a rich culture, people diversity, gastronomy, history. It's a country inside a country.
❤❤
I love Sampa!!
@@heraldocosta1469 me too!
Yes! ❤
The largest city in the southern hemisphere is jakarta though
13:44 This sound was installed after some dude tried to sneak in the train while the door was closing in the Santo Amaro station, he got his arm stuck and they had to change it. Before that, the sound was similar to the other metro lines. Nice Video btw, very informative!
Why is their modern metro ‘surprising’?
This kind of comments really throw me off, always when foreigners talk about anything in Brazil they expect it to be the worst... Like bro it's not even Offensive, it just shows how you're ignorant.
inherent subtle racism from westerners thinking Latin America is jungles and villages.
Brazilian here, the thing is that people from Europe and America get surprised about is about how clean and organized Brazilian metro is, not for being in Brazil, but for being better than places like New York, Paris and other places
I think because most north Americans think poor public transport is a thing across all the Americas.
South America can therefore be surprising given its more European or Asian style metro systems.
Because they think we live in huts and cook over bonfires
Pedro II station is named after the second and last emperor of Brazil! He ruled from 1831 to 1889 (he was only around 6 when his father left him behind for Europe and became emperor, but he wouldn't officially assume full powers until age 14). He turned Brazil into an emerging power, distinguishing it from its neighbors by maintaining stability, freedom of speech, respect for civil rights (he pushed for slavery to be abolished despite opposition), vibrant economic growth, and a functional parliamentary monarchy. He loved to travel and learn from other countries. Innovations like trains and telegraph lines were introduced under Pedro II. He sponsored learning, culture, and sciences, winning him the respect of greats like Charles Darwin, Victor Hugo, and Henry Wadsworth Longfellow. Brazil was also victorious in the Platine War, the Uruguayan War, and the Paraguayan War! He was overthrown in a military coup that established a Republic, he didn't stop it because he didn't like power, he worked too hard and thought it was time to rest (he also abhorred luxury). So awesome that you're Brazilian-American! Nice to see another Latino in the urbanist transit community! The transit in Latin American countries is so underrated and often overlooked! Like how Cuba was actually the first in the whole Spanish-speaking world to get trains! Cuba's railway history began in October 1834 during the colonial period when the Queen Regent Maria Christina of the Two Sicilies approved the first line. This was built by the Compañía de Caminos de Hierro de la Habana between Havana and Bejucal at 27.5 km or 17.1 miles in November 1837. Spain wouldn't get trains until 1848! Besides Havana's 17-line MetroBus network (which has used Camellos, tractor-trailer buses with camel-like tractors that can stuff up to 300 people each; this was a solution during the 1990s Special Period when there was a fuel shortage and no subway was ever built due to Soviet collapse), Havana also has a suburban rail network that serves some towns of its metropolitan area in Artemisa and Mayabeque provinces. There's also Hershey Electric Railway interurban, which links Havana to Matanzas via Hershey/Camilo Cienfuegos, and it was originally built in the late 1910s by Hershey to transport sugar to the port of Havana.
Other great Latin American transit examples: Buenos Aires's Subte opened in 1913, making it the 13th earliest subway network in the world and the first underground railway in Latin America, the Southern Hemisphere, and the Spanish-speaking world before Spain, as the Madrid Metro opened nearly six years later! Buenos Aires also has free bikeshare with LOTS of protected bike lanes, colectivos which are hundreds of lines each ran by individual companies, its 24/7 Metrobus BRT, and there's even ferries to Uruguay! Bolivia's Mi Teleférico cable car system connect the cities of La Paz and El Alto, which are separated by a steep slope about 400 m tall, and were previously only connected by winding, congested roads! The system is intended for a length of 33.8 km! Curitiba in the Brazilian state of Paraná opened the world's second BRT system in 1974, the Rede Integrada de Transporte, which was also a component of one of the most successful examples of TOD! In 2024, the system has 6 lines with a length of 81.4 km total! Their fleet uses bi-articulated buses split into three sections and operates only with soy-based biofuel, which reduces pollutant emissions by 50%. In the 1980s, they introduced elevated glass tube stations, which allow for fare prepayment, all door loading, and level boarding! Inside some tube stations there are Tubotecas, or small libraries, introduced in 2013. Citizens can borrow books with no need to register and return them to any other Tuboteca, any time. In addition, 20% of the stations also have passing lanes to allow for express services.
The difference between you and Justin Y. is that you're actually very knowledgeable on many topics.
Also, you say the Cuban train thing a lot. Cheers from Puerto Rico
9:34 Those metal barriers are actually a smart idea
Yeah! It’s a great solution if proper platform screen doors are unaffordable.
@@nathantransitj Quick question: Do you have family in São Paulo?
@@vicecityplayer yes
They are called "flow drivers" but everyone calls "cattle sheds".
@@nathantransitj It's not about affordability in SP subway's case, retrofitting the stations who were built without the extra weight on the platform edge in mind is the biggest challenge. Also the curved stations, they require a different approach to implement and I'm not really sure how they'll do it.
For both cases there's no off the shelf solution but they are work in progress. There's currently contracts to install the PSDs on every station, but it takes time due to the infrastructure modifications needed.
Some more curiosities:
- some of the subway stations are as deep as 40m/132ft;
- there is a very useful system of support for blind people, with worker positioned at every station to lead the blind person to the train e pick them up on the next. Also, wheelchairs are nicely accommodated as well;
- there are specifc doors for bycicles, and at times reserves doors for elderlies or expecting moms;
- there are around two attempts of suicide on the rails every day, so the glass protections on the newer stations aim also to reduce that.
One curious fact is that Sao Paulo is a city of hills, so many metro stations are very very deep.
This subway is better than any I've experienced in the Americas or Europe, by far. Unfortunately, too crowded in peak hours.
No estoy de acuerdo, el primero es el de Santiago de Chile y después sigue Sau Paulo
@@user-cq3em3wm5s São Paulo fue la primera ciudad de Latinoamérica a tener trenes sin conductor, actualmente hay dos lineas la amarilla, y la línea 15 plata que es el primero sistema de monoriel de Latinoamérica totalmente automático. Algunos años después construyeron una linea así en Santiago. Hay mas dos líneas en construcción, dos en expansión y otra linea de monoriel también en construcción.
City itself is crowded until 23:00 PM, and again crowded after 5:00 PM
Yes! Unfortunately, this is due to the lack of lines in such a large city, the Mexico City subway is newer than São Paulo's, and even so there are many more lines there.
@@user-cq3em3wm5ssi pero el unico problema es que el metro de santiago esta un poco sucio
Unrelated to the subway itself, but at 8:19 the "beds" you see are for a makeshift emergency shelter for homeless people on cold nights. Since that space is not used and the station is close to the city center, where most if the homeless population is, the city allows people to sleep there, providing a bed and a blanket to keep them warm.
15:12 The Santo Amaro station's windows were covered with the white plastic film aproximately three years ago, after an accident involving the collapse of a large metal structure (which can be seen in 18:09 ) into the river during station renovation works.
The accident had no fatalities and workers were only lightly injured, but the line operator company decided it would be best to cover all windows until all repairs and remaining construction ended to not atract much attention to the incident.
Also, Line 5 Lilac originally didn't have platform doors, so the yellow line in front of them is a remnant from before the metro line's modernization and the ramps were an adaptation to fit the doors to the old platform structure.
Great video and impressive portuguese pronounciation! Thank you for covering our city's metro lines.
🇧🇷 São Paulo resident here, great to see you covering our public transport, you did amazingly well explaining the whole thing. Props for you 👏👏
And to make sense of the yellow tactile tiles weirdly placed showed in 15:40 that is because some fatalities happened regarding people accidentally being pushed into the tracks during rush hour due to overcrowding and the glass panels came after in order to prevent it entirely (same thing with red line if you noticed this in some of them).
The "Bilhete Único" and "Top Card" happen to coexist because the first is a project of the prefecture and meant to operate inside the municipality (SPTrans bus and boat routes + Metrô + CPTM); the latter is meant to operate out of the municipality (EMTU bus routes + Metrô + CPTM) and came to be in the hands of the State of São Paulo, not the city. Both have differences in transfer policies, use and even pricing in some cases because of that.
And if you ever have the chance, you shouldn't miss out on making a video about the bus system here, which is a wonder in itsel (the world's largest in number of vehicles operating btw).
Existem o cartão Fidelidade Metro CPTM ( não pode usar no ônibus como o Bilhete único ) que entendo que mesmo estrangeiro pode ter um, já que é opcional o cadastro de identificação para caso de perda ou roubo.
Sao Paolo subway is a brazilian pride
Mas não é necessidariamente um orgulho para os paulistanos
Curitiba public transport too. Universities and Urban and Transport Planners around the world recognize it.
@@andremourapassos319 Como não ? É um orgulho sim ainda maior, digo como Paulista Paulistano da gema
Wrong. You meant to rather say ….” Is Brazil’s Pride “. Or you could further embellish as … “ it is São Paulo’s Crown Jewel. “.
@@danielzugueibcoutinho5554 Curitiba has a fitting public transportation system. Without São Paulo’s overwhelming and sprawling size , it rather makes efficient use of its street grid to haul passengers without tearing the underground.
So it attains São Paulo’s efficiency and throughput spending far less money
I never thought an extensive and detailed video about public transportation would be so nice to watch. I think the fast pace helps me appreciate it more.
I'll go watch the others.
"surprisingly modern" the audacity
The funniest thing he said his parents are from brazil, probably the kind that left in the 80s and think everything still the same, thats why he has prejudice against his own country (kinda).
Hey there! Brazilian here - great video, I’m not from São Paulo and this is a great guide, so interesting. BTW! Your Portuguese pronunciation is totally on point! Did you live in Brazil or do you speak Portuguese?
Can’t wait for the next videos! Cheers
Família dele é de SP. Deve ser brasileiro.
Pode responder em português o cara é brasileiro😂😂😂😂
@@moments6667 WOW! big plot twist , ta tudo explicado . Nenhum americano sem ties com o Brazil conseguiria pronunciar todos esses nomes haha
Olá irmão, abraço do Rio!!
Your Videos are always very dynamic and interesting. It is so nice to listen to you. 😊
I didn’t know that São Paulo has such a modern system. It always surprises me to learn what other’s cities transit systems are operating. Will you cover other metros in South America?
Unfortunately not. I was only able to stay in São Paulo because my family lives there.
Actually, the privately-operated lines are more modern not because of the private sector, but because they were more recently built.
E porque eles privatizam as lucrativas e deixam as deficitárias nas mãos do setor público. As privadas recebem um investimento previsto no contrato que pouco afeta a rentabilidade, as públicas ficam sucateadas porque o setor público perdeu a fonte de renda que as mantinham. Para quem está de fora, a impressão que passa é que o setor privado é muito mais eficiente do que o público, o que não é nenhum efeito colateral, é proposital.
@@guilhermedeluca9229 Exactly! The private company that operates the most modern subway line (Via Mobilidade) is the same one that is being taken to court by the Public Ministry of the State of São Paulo, due to the terrible service provided on lines 8 and 9. A record of failures and problems in serving the public, cleaning and maintenance of trains. In São Paulo, we have a good example of how the same private company can provide good and bad service.
and well financed
The private lines are not any more lucrative than the public maintained ones.
The yellow line, if memory serves me right , was not under union representation ( I stand to be corrected here ) . And payroll plus entitlements to meet operating and supporting personnel does not have grandfathered pensions to bear. So it costs less to operate.
All lines carry a proportionate amount of ridership. And since all lines operate under a single seamless fare system , and at the same fixed token rate, then private x public profitability is a non issue.
Privatized line operators do not carry the burden of a depreciating asset on the books. Their sunk money went into the bidding to operate the line and they pay rent to utilize the facilities. Plus bearing the coat to run their operations.
Also, older publicly owned lines earmark more Capex money to keep up with upgrades and maintenance, since the water and tear is more pronounced.
@@serafinacosta7118line 4 Yellow costs less to operate and there are several profits thresholds that the government has to pay to CCR in case they don’t reach the profit goals. Also CCR gets more than the full 5 reais passengers pay, that’s the reason they have the people counter on transfers. CCR receives instead 6,63 reais for each passenger that uses the line.
Your pronunciation of the Brazilian names and Portuguese words is perfect. Where're u from?
I was born in the US but my parents are Brazilian!
8:30 An interesting fact: the rivalry between 2 soccer teams, Palmeiras and Corinthians, is so big and striking in SP that the two teams gained metro stations in opposite directions on the same line, being: Palmeiras - Barra Funda and Corinthians - Itaquera, so that fans do not meet during the match, if the two teams played at the same time in their respective stadiums
Palmeiras has never won the Club World Cup, in case you're wondering.
@@viniciuscastro4433 Palmeiras is actually the Biggest winner on both National Cup and Championship. Palmeiras is the Biggest brazilian winner at Libertadores Cup together with Sao Paulo, Gremio, Internacional and Santos. Also, the head-to-head all times records is: Palmeiras 139 x 131 Corinthians.
Corinthians is just a train station...
@@TieRo69how could we explain about fax machine championship to a Gringo?
@@TieRo69Internacional has only two Libertadores.
Flamengo has three, indeed.
And never forget:
Palmeiras doesnt have mund.....
@@jotasiq me tira uma dúvida? Existia curintia na década de 60?
fun fact: some stations are named after soccer teams because they are close to their stadiums, such as Portuguesa-Tietê and São Paulo-Morumbi, always in that 'Soccer Team-District' order. And in the case of the Linha Vermelha, it just so happens that the opposite terminals represent one of the biggest rivalries in Brazilian soccer, with Palmeiras-Barra Funda at one end and Corinthians-Itaquera at the other.
An interesting example of future-proofing is Singapore's Punggol LRT. Plans for the Punggol LRT line were drawn up and announced in January 1999 with the development of Punggol New Town. Construction began in June 2000 by a consortium at a cost of S$354 million. Meanwhile, the Punggol LRT line was awarded to Singapore Bus Service (present-day SBS Transit) in May 1999. The first phase was completed in June 2004 and underwent testing by the Land Transport Authority. The system was handed over to SBS Transit in December that year, which conducted more trial runs and staff training before the opening of the East Loop in January 2005. However, due to limited developments around some stations on the loop at the time, only certain stations opened. Meaning that they built all these stations in 2005 and opened them only when there were developments. In January 2005, all East Loop stations except Oasis (2007) and Damai (2011) opened. In June 2014, West Loop except for Sam Kee (Feb 2016), Teck Lee, Punggol Point (Dec 2016) and Samudera (March 2017) opened. Teck Lee, however, has remained closed and became an oddity, as it's a fully built station in the middle of nowhere with platform screen doors and a very outdated map. Even though it's been closed, the Crystal Movers have a station announcement for it and it stops there without the doors opening. But after Teck Lee opens, this will of course change.
Another great example is the 63rd Street Tunnel in NYC, as when it opened in 1989 for the IND 63rd Street Line, it was futureproofed to include space on its lower level for LIRR trains to Grand Central! Construction of the 63rd Street Tunnel began in 1969. The tunnel was holed through beneath Roosevelt Island in 1972, but completion of the tunnel and its connections was delayed by the 1975 New York City fiscal crisis. The fact the 63rd Street Tunnel opened for the subway in 1989 really puts into perspective just how long it took to complete East Side Access. If it wasn't for the Roosevelt Island station not opening immediately after the trolley line above on the Queensboro Bridge (which was the last trolley line in New York State) and elevator down to the island both closed in 1957, NYC wouldn't have gotten the Roosevelt Island Tramway! Roosevelt Island was redeveloped to accommodate low- to mid-income TOD car-free housing projects in the 1970s, which is why necessitating the construction of a new transit connection. They were able to achieve it because the NY government's New York State Urban Development Corporation leased the island from the city in 1969. The Octagon designed by Alexander Jackson Davis (who worked on the former 1833 North Carolina State Capitol, Litchfield Villa in Brooklyn's Prospect Park, and the Lyndhurst mansion in Tarrytown), a remnant of a hospital made famous by the investigative work of Nellie Bly, has since been incorporated as part of a large apartment complex! Like the MTA, the RIOC who is responsible for the island (like its buses, AVAC system, the aerial tramway, etc) is a New York State public-benefit corporation! And so as a solution until the subway station was ready, they came up with an aerial tramway. It opened in 1976 with the fare being 25 cents more than the subway fare so the tramway wouldn't draw away subway riders. But it became a permanent system as the subway project got delayed. Ridership declined once the station did open in 1989, but it's still popular among tourists. It was the last holdout of the subway tokens, and it wouldn't accept MetroCard until March 2004, and they started accepting OMNY in August 2023! It now costs the same as the subway and buses. And during the big transit strike in 2005, the aerial tramway was still in operation, transporting three times its typical passenger count!
São Paulo resident here!!
Thanks for the video, I love it when people take the time to explore and uncover some of the amazing parts of our city, one other interesting point is how a lot of stations (specially end-line ones) are integrated into bus terminals which cover the rest of the city reach, not perfect, but works, and slowly the metro and train system are also integrating to other mobility areas like the main airports and (and this is a wish of mine) maybe one day Ferries if we ever clean up the Tietê river ahahaha
Amazing Portuguese pronunciation btw!!!
That ridership is impressive for a Metro system that is only 65 miles long.
Actually, we Brazilians tend to call metro system only what runs below ground. But if we consider all metropolitan trains that runs on the surface as part of the metro system as well, which in fact is the correct, it is way longer. Like 5 times.
We call the subway only what runs underground. We call the lines above ground a regular train. There are thousands of kilometers of regular trains connected to subway stations underground, but we do not consider them to be subways. Underground subway trains and regular trains above ground reach the same speed. The complete train network in São Paulo is 400 kilometers long, while the subway network is 100 kilometers long (only underground).
it's actually 400km long, he is not taking into account the train service
@@thlis6582 Exactly, I live in one of the cities from the Rubi line, and that's the point: *one of the cities*, this line and some others expands over many other cities around São Paulo, and that's hella impressive. It covers all the adjacent areas and such we share the same culture, I was astonished when I landed in São Paulo just to meet people with the same culture but living in a big ass city that threatens you with its gigantic size.
It's not only 65 miles. That's under the ground
Got emotional when you showed the path through Line 2 green of metro towards Line 5 lylac. That's the path I make everyday when I'm going home from work!!!
São Paulo is one of the biggest, busiest and crowdest cities in the world (over 20 million people), we sure need more lines and more stations. But I do love our subway system.
Thanks for sharing your experience. There's something special in seeing your routine through the eyes of someone new. come again anytime!
True São Paulo needs more metro, but it must be said that right now there are 4 FOUR metro lines under construction!
Love how I've lived here in SP my entire life so these Metros were nothing out of the ordinary for me, but somehow people from outside actually admire it.
Sou de São Paulo, bairro do butantã. fico feliz por mostrar nossa cidade, nosso meio de transporte, essa grande metrópole das americas. Brasil
Venham nós visitar, serão bem recebidos!
I used a lot of that umbrella rental service before the pandemic! Where I worked had one of those stations. It's so cheap, the umbrellas have amazing quality (strong against the wind, and big enough for 2 people), and it saved me multiple times.
The only downside is that those stations are mostly around the richest neighborhoods (Jardins, Bela Vista, Brooklin Paulista, Vila Olímpia).
18:25 - Currently, only 5 old trains like the one shown in the photo remain, and they operate only on a 6-kilometer stretch in the far west of line 8. Recently, ViaMobilidade announced that they are taking them out of circulation, to the sadness of some old train fans. Thus, the least modern trains operating on the network will now be the E fleet on line 1 operated by the Metrô (CMSP), which do not have air conditioning. They are expected to be retired around 2030, but currently, they already operate as a reserve fleet for the line.
In the Via Mobilidade case it's quite the contrary compared to line 4. It got worse after it was sold to a private company, with record general failures and a huge number of accidents. The company focusing only on their profit fired a lot of the working force, and probably make less repairs and investments on security. Also the main difference you see between the private line 4 and the other ones it's the time between their construction, line 4 is decades younger than the others and by the way was built by metrô and then, after it's construction got sold to this private company to administrate it.
Run every 90seconds and every 4min off pick. Here in New York waiting for 15min is normal 💀💀💀
São Paulo is the 5th largest city in the world, 4th largest economy per capita on the planet. What's the surprise? New York is surprised to have rats in the subway. We Brazilians are hygienic and receptive, our transport is clean and with polite people (for the most part), unlike North American countries.
Your portuguese pronunciation was spot on. Love and peace from Brasília!
great video!!!! I'd like to share a few other facts about my lovely Metrô/CPTM system:
- lines 2-green, 4-yellow and 15-silver are also expanding to the west, although only line 15 started any work as of right now. line 2 will expand to Cerro Corá station (which will connect to future line-20 pink), line 4 to the city of Taboão da Serra and line 15 to Ipiranga station, connecting the monorail to the train system with line 10-turquoise!
- line 4 is actually the newest line! if I'm not mistaken, its first stations opened in 2010 while line 5 opened in 2002. but to be fair, half of line 5 took almost 20 years to complete
- another curiosity about line 5 is that it was planned to be a train line! CPTM started to construct it but the government changed idea and they left the rest for the Metrô to conclude. because of that, some station after Santo Amaro have longer planned-for-trains platforms
- like Viamobilidade, ViaQuatro is also owned by CCR. they get an absurd amount of money per passenger
- the third monorail, line 18-bronze, was planned to connect Tamanduateí station at line 2 to the city of São Bernardo do Campo (where I live in!). unfortunately, the project was cancelled and they're constructing a BRT line with less capacity instead
also, I've realized that most people (brazilians or tourists) tend to focus on line 4 only when they make videos about our metro system and I loved the fact that you've shown other lines as well!!!
Obrigado pelas curiosidades!
Funnily enough Line 11 Coral was the opposite to Line 5 Lilac, it's construction began by the Metro but was halted due to funding problems since at the time there were many other projects and loans made by the Metro even for bus terminals. To proceed the building process the Governor at the time decided to transfer it to CPTM because they had the capacity to take the loan and finish it.
Another SBC citizien frustated by the lack of rail that reach our city here 👋🏽
Well, so I'll be 3rd São Bernardo Citizen pissed off about the line 18 bronze being cancelled haha
I was really waiting that line construction. I decided to move to São Paulo City after the cancellation, because 3 hours moving around with 2 buses, 2 metros and 1 train was killing me
"Surprisingly modern", which translates as "I expected to find a shitty subway, but no, it's modern".
Just a correction: line 11 is the "coral line", line 12 is the "sapphire". Line 11 "coral" leaves from the "Luz" station in the center of São Paulo, and line 12 "sapphire" leaves from the "Brás" station, also downtown São Paulo.
your portuguese explaining the stations' name is perfect!
Actually line 4 was the last one build it, they messed up with the numbers because CPTM was the former owner of line 5, called line G back them
You meant … “ it was the last line to be concluded ( or built ) “. And nobody messes up the numbers. Rather , numbering got switched due to ….. bla, bla, bla. There is no messing it up. It is a switcherooo.
Very impressive how clean and good signal every where. I leave in Boston and the subway here it's a nightmare. Excellent video, Congrats !
the monorail names are not just metals, they were supposed to be gold, silver and bronze, regarding the 2014 world cup, representing the medals. but not all of them were finished on time.
The attention to detail is fantastic
New York City did become the first system in the United States to have trains with open gangways. The R211Ts in New York are the ones that use them. I wish more of them had that option.
That’s crazy to think because a few months after, the Honolulu Skyline opened with their Automated light metro vehicles with open gangways, just like the Vancouver Skytrain. 2nd system in the US to do so!
@@TheRandCrews I like what I see from that Honolulu system. Wanna try that someday.
15:00 In the past we could see the river, I guess these windows covering is recent.
Good video :)
they covered after the accident during the station expansion works, necessary to accommodate the large flow of people on the platform, so passengers cannot see the steel debris in the river
Great video. I definitely didn't know how the Sao Paulo subway system worked, and this was a very concise way to explain it.
A lot of it reminds me of the metro system I use, the Metro de Santiago system in Santiago de Chile, specially in the way one can see the constrast between the older and newer stations, or in how all the lines have connections between each of them. The newer lines even have the same panels to protect the public from falling to the railway, and the oldest (and busiest) line (Línea 1) will have them retrofitted in the near future.
In the way of contrasts: Santiago's Metro is wholly-operated by a government-owned company, Metro S.A. It has a connection to the national railway system operated by the also government-owned Empresa de Ferrocarriles del Estado (EFE) in the Estación Central station, which is the departure point for the Nos train (which uses the same payment card that is used in the Metro and bus network), the Tren Central (Santiago --> Chillán/Temuco), and the Metrotrén (Santiago --> Rancagua). Also, the stations use the model where people come out and enter the trains from the same side, which makes it a bit chaotic in rush hour.
I lived in São Paulo in the 90’s and I loved using the Metro service down there. It is super nice and well maintained!!
Orgulho de ser paulista❤️
Ainda que tenha muita coisa no que melhorar, que vai acontecer! Continua sendo uma cidade incrível
For those who want to know a little about the stations of the São Paulo metro rail system, here on my channel I am presenting them.
I'm very happy with your video and that it showed a little of my city and our subway that we proudly have. This is a Brazil that some foreigners need to know
I believe the Paris Metro also uses large wall maps that are to scale. Thank you for the video tour through Sao Paulo's urban rail transit network, great video.
gostei hein. o transporte de SP é show de bola. mas ainda preciso conhecer a cidade, espero conseguir ir ainda esse ano.
Haliç station on the Istanbul M2 line is also located over a river!
1:34 Not only I'm Brazillian but also a São Paulo citizen who used the Metro for a few years and I've never noticed this fact... And now that you've mentioned it, it makes so much sense!!!
Why wouldn’t you expect são paulo out of all places to modernize their metros with the passing of time ?
I just feel like people generally don’t associate South America with modernity.
@@nathantransitjand Europe is? Like come on
@@u3u36when it comes to trains, Europe and Asia have the most modern and objectively best metro systems, so they don’t expect Latin America to have good metro systems… they say NYC’s is better and as a New Yorker, I would kill to live in Mexico City or São Paulo due to their clean metro systems
@@GobbiExists The best would be a mix between both: a system that is as useful/extensive as NYC's with the cleanliness and modernity of São Paulo's
NYC is overdue to an overhaul. It does not need reach , it needs serious upgrades.
Plenty obstacles stand in the way to make all US major MSAs equipped with decent transit systems ….
1. Lack of bipartisan support so that federal funding becomes available.
2. Defense budgets gets the lion share of the pie. The DOT’s allocate budget does not come even close to a fifth of what the DoD gets.
3. A pervasive mindset America’s on wheels. This has been a sabotage from the energy and car making concerted lobbies to prevent Americans to benefit from sound public transportation systems.
4. The only surviving pre war streetcar system are in New Orleans and San Francisco. Los Angeles had one, and GM bought it so it could canibalize it.
Hi everyone, I think is good to know that although the lines 4 and 5 seems way futuristic than the “classic” ones, they were also built by the public transportation company “metrô”.
The lines 4, 5, 8 and 9 were just bought by “viamobilidade”, the way it was said in the video can make misinterpretations like the public company can’t provide a good service, which I completely disagree, since all the system was built by them, anyways, privatization is bad for the system as it prioritizes profit rather than the passengers security and the privatized lines causes way more problems than the public ones (derailments, lack of trains in rush hours and old trains with no air conditioning).
Anyway, I found the video amazing, Nathan knows how to explain and gave a good context about our transportation system. Thank you Nathan.
Thanks for the correction. This is something I should have realized when researching and I sincerely apologize for the mistake. I’ll try to be more thorough next time.
Discordo totalmente, basta ver em que linha tem greve e em que linha não tem greve.
O particular quer lucro, mas para lucrar precisa prestar bom serviço ou não vai ter cliente.
Já o estado é ineficiente se gasta 10 vezes mais para ter metade.
Isso vale para qualquer coisa, não só metro.
Embraer, Vale, Telefonia, etc são provas disso.
@@wallacemjrComo assim precisa prestar bom serviço ou não vai ter cliente? Trem e metrô não tem concorrência. Se eu preciso chegar em Moema, eu sou OBRIGADO a usar a linha lilás se não quiser pegar 3 ônibus. É curioso falar que o Estado gasta mais quando a linha 4 (CCR) recebe R$6,63 por passageiro. E nos últimos anos, em função do lucro, tem diminuído o quadro de funcionários e tem negligenciado as manutenções dos trens. Antes era comum ver guardas em todas as plataformas e todos em todos as locomotivas, atualmente eles ficam espalhados pela linha. O Estado entregou toda a infraestrutura e trens necessários pra linha 4 operar, é a linha que de longe tem mais propagandas e anúncios e precisa de R$1,63 a mais por passageiro pra operar, isso que é eficiência.
@@wallacemjr só que ... depois que a Via Mobilidade "ganhou" a linha "Diamante" (Júlio Prestes - Itapevi, que usei por mais de 30 anos) , essa linha passou a dar *muito* mais problemas ... e eu *nunca* tive problemas por causa de greves nesta linha ... como eles não tem concorrentes, passaram a simplesmente gastar menos dinheiro na manutenção
4:39 the better looking and more modern lines have not to do with it private operaror, since was designed and built by the public company and awarded to the private just for operation, but simply because they are more recent (completed in the last decade)
Technically it is a mistake not to consider the CPTM/ViaMobilidade lines (7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 and 13) as metro lines, this confusion usually occurs due to a cultural problem that we have due to these lines having been modernized from centuries-old regional train lines that no longer provide this type of service. Therefore, it is correct to say that the current length of the São Paulo metro is around 380 KM.
I have the very same argument here in Rio with Supervia.
The CPTM has a shorter interval than the New York subway... and not to mention it is cleaner and more modern than NYC too@@mrvini1998
It means nothing. There is metro systems that are closed at sundays, so wow, its a headway of 24 hours... lol. And they still are metro. CPTM lines are not listed as "metro" only because the government called them other way.
Not exactly: the tracks of cptm are still being used for freight trains, although restricted to less busy hours. In a not so distant past, there were also long-distance passenger trains using the same tracks and stations. And there are still some same level road crossings. A segregated exclusive system is what best characterizes a metro system. Although cptm is not far away from this standard - and possibly the shown line, line 8, is the one who fulfills these criteria the best - as a whole, it's still not there.
@@gerdjak It doesn't make sense, the emerald line 9 was completely segregated but even so it is a metropolitan train, the Lilac Line 5 if it were operated by CPTM since it was built, it would not be called a metro... Other proofs are these
CPTM Line 14 Ônix: It will be fully segregated underground
CPTM Line 13 Jade: The section to Guarulhos Airport is segregated, but in the future there will be another underground section to Parque da Mooca
Line 11 Coral: The São Paulo metro built the Corinthians Itaquera section to Guaianases containing underground sections, giving in exchange Line 5 Lilas built by CPTM
Line 9 Esmeralda: It would be called Line 7 Celeste almost being converted to Metro
In Brazil it is more of a cultural issue than a technical one.
The São Paulo subway system, besides the metropolitan trains, is the one that has grown and improved the most in recent years.
The only problem has been the overcrowding during rush hour: there is a lot of pushing and shoving and a huge feeling of suffocation, because people are literally stuck together (I've tried it and it was terrible, lol)... But other than that, it's a very good service!
Same as in Tokyo.
Very nice video. i hope you are doing a south america tour, i cant wait for buenos aires and santiago videos
Unfortunately not :(. Thanks for watching anyway!
São Paulo resident here! 😊
I loved the video! It's always nice to see how people from other places around the world experience your metro network, and how they felt about it. Are you planning on covering the Line 15 of the monorail in the future?
i think its important to remember that it was not the third party company that built or designed the newer lines, they just run it.
Wow it looks even more modern than the ones in Asian countries like Taiwan 🇹🇼, Hong Kong etc
I mean the trains
Ohhhh thank you so much for explaining the weird numbers on line 5 doors, I hate them so much because they never made sense to me 😂
Fun fact: the music on the public metro line is based on a very popular Paulista samba called: Carinhoso from Pixiguinha, just like on Nihonbashi Station in Tokyo they use Sakura Sakura song ;)
The stations in Munich have the plans for subways and S-Bahn(surburban) trains on all stations. This system is more and better than in most US cities.
Amazing! I love the attention to detail you put into your vids. The San Paolo looks amazing even with all of its "quirks" and would love to visit it someday. I too could never understand the point of those MTA data & time placards!
*São Paulo
Great video! I think it’s great that all the operators have an integrated system for fares/transfers! Seems like a great system!
You started right by my house I walk in Parque da Luz almost daily.
11/10 on the pronounciation of BR portuguese. Well done brother
great video and great pronunciation :) one small correction: the G stock originally ran on line 2, then was moved to lines 1 and 3 and finally to line 3 only. behind those line diagrams you pointed out inside the cars, there’s a map of line 2 with LED indicators that used to light according to where in the line the train was (like the ones from line 4)
btw the umbrella machines are indeed used and quite a lot lol, together with the bikes they’re like the last man standing of the mid-2010s share app boom. it’s very handy bc you don’t have to return your umbrella to the same machine that you took it from, and if you forget to return it in 3 business days you’re automatically charged full price and the umbrella is yours.
also the inconsistencies between lines 4 and 5 are because line 5 was originally operated by metrô - santo amaro was one of the first finished stations, and i believe the automatic barriers were installed later by viamobilidade, which explains the yellow line on the platforms :)
THANK YOU so much for this video!
Thanks for visiting my country! Hope u appreciated it
The biggest city in the southern hemisphere, my hometown!
Sou defensor ferrenho do metro/ trem de SP, sendo usuário em anos, reconheço e vivencio nimdia dia a importância e qualidade dele❤👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
The golden line is in progress, there has been a change in the company building the line 😊
The gold and orange lines had issues with the winning bidders. With orange line buildout , the winning bidder was implicated in a major graft scandal , Oderbrecht. Their license was revoked , and the grantor had to re start the process all over .
The gold line, I might be wrong on this, but as far as I can remember , the granted builder felt short in funding to meet its capital outlays , and it had to be replaced mid construction.
Taipei Metro also has umbrella renting
I was born in São Paulo, and I’m really happy you visited. Welcome to Brazil! 🇧🇷 BTW your Portuguese is excellent.
Thank you for such a detailed report and for nailing the Portuguese words, even the tougher ones such as Estação. Rare to see. SP’s metro deserves a video like this so thanks for sharing it. Liked and subbed for that. Even the small things such as the colour-gem-metal criteria hasn’t been overlooked, so cheers for those deu as well
great video. your pronunciation of portuguese words are on point. congratz.
Very well documented. I grew up in SP and you nailed it.
what do you mean "surprisingly modern", do people expect us to live in the jungle???? other metro systems in the world like japan's and south korea's were actually inspired by sao paulo's. i know this video is positive in tone, but I'm so tired of people having these preconceived notions about us just because brazil (and other south america countries) are "third world"........
Most publish transport in Brazil is shit and looks like shit, as is most infrastructure. Every Brazilian knows it, no need to pretend otherwise.
Two parallel and square towers, in the Gothc style of architecture, copy Westster Abbey, the church of London where monrchs are crowned.
Between 1042 and 1052, King Edward the Confesor began to build St.Pter's Abey. It was the first church in Englnd built in Rman style. The building was completed around 1060 and consecrated by the church on December 28, 1065, a week before Edward's death on January 5, 1066.
Private lines look and/or are better in many aspects because they charge more! The government actually pays to subsidize the price of tickets at private lines in São Paulo so that they are the same as public lines to the end user. Without the subsidy, private lines would either fail or have to charge around 7 reais
What a impressive video, I feel obligated to comment to boost the algorithm god
Very interesting. Great video with a lot of information! I am actually curious how safe you felt riding the network.
hate riding the subway, i'm 6.7' and hit my head in almost EVERYTHING, sometimes i cant even stand up on some carts.
Sao Paulo City is my City where I born, and I Love My Sao Paulo City, Brazil
O metrô de São Paulo não é perfeito, mas é um dos melhores do mundo e é limpo, não é como o metrô dos Estados Unidos que é sujo com ratos🐭🐭.
Os ratos em NYC se refugiam no metro.
Muitas das edificações em NY precedem a Segunda Guerra Mundial. Não há , portanto , espaçamento entre prédios ou recuos, em muitos assentamentos , especialmente em downtown ( TriBeCa, Nolita , Soho, Village , Financial , Hell’s Kitchen, Garment District ) , Midtown,
O que significa que o lixo recolhido deve ser depositado na rua , sem que se possa lançar mão de caçambas.
A verticalizacao de São Paulo só veio ocorrer bem mais tarde , e, princípios da década de 60. Quando já se podia fazer provisões para acomodar o lixo a ser coletado.
E prédios baixos , como railroad apartments e brownstones sequer tinham aonde depositar lixo, pois muitos usavam o térreo / porão , como área de criadagem
A sua análise é superficial e injusta , para não citar outras deficiências. Palpite de botequim.
It reminds me a lot to the Buenos Aires subte! However, the stations here aren’t that massive, everything is definitely more ‘squeezed’. And half the stations are super old, so they have a more classic/traditional aesthetic. And the newer stations are also different, there are many murals and art in the subway here, and we don’t have the sliding doors in between the train and the platform
6:41 when the G stock was brand new they were only in service with Line 2, some years later they were introduced into Line 1 & 3 and eventually taken off Line 2 followed by 1 a few years later
It's good to know that I'm not the only one who thinks the system is good, but confusing when it comes to information for the user. 😄
I have never found a single dirty bathroom in the metro here in São Paulo. I have lived here for 30 years. I could imagine such a thing on the busiest lines like red and blue, but on green and yellow those are absolutely clean.
My best friend just returned from an Euro trip, he visit London, Amsterdam, Berlin and Budapest.
He tells me that mostly of those cities are garbage, specially Berlin and Budapest.
"Berlin is like a shitier São Paulo, the streets are much dirtier (rats everywhere was a normal thing) and the majority of the people are very rude and intolerant with outsiders (just ilke the old days)"
"Budapest wasn't so different than Berlin."
"The public transportation system in those cities were good, but not much different from what São Paulo does, but São Paulo is much bigger than those europeans cities"
Now I get it, you think our subway/train system is "surprising modern" because yours is trash.
14:30 Barcelona Metro Chime
couldn't remember if it was that or if it was Rodalies haha thank you!
About the umbrella renting machine: it is obviously most used on rainy days, proven by how much people carry the green kiwi design umbrellas around the city. At my workplace, we have one of those machines, and it's great since you never truly know when it will rain in São Paulo.
It’s also good to take into consideration that you can rent the umbrella for free for the first 24 hours, you just need to return it to another renting machine before the time is up and it doesn’t count weekends, so you can pick one up on a Friday and return on Monday. It’s very useful.
Every time you have " "inconsistence" , "confusing" or" "ridículous" go and take a good look at the dirt of New York subway.
I mean tbf, the NYC Subway has the excuse of being a very old system that's the result of competing companies, why is why the stations are the way they are, and thus the MTA having to fill the gaps of the companies that came before it.
@@waterlooandcityline that IS NOT enough excuse for the graffiti and dirt.
In São Paulo EVERY NIGHT tens of items of the subway are changed.
@@waltersergio2996 And THAT is not an excuse for São Paulo's violence!
@@waltersergio2996 It's an old system, ran by an agency facing a budget crisis, so it's expected
@@waltersergio2996It's funny for Brazilians to talk smack about the US, when your cities are FAR worse, especially when it comes to crime and government! Like the favelas....
Santo Amaro Station previously had no safety doors and was operated by a different train model, which was slightly lower than other platforms. Therefore, small ramps had to be built to compensate for the newer model.
6:35 The G trains were built to be operated in line 2 Green, this is why they're greenish inside.
Some years ago the Metrô moved the G series to line 3 because of the modernisation program of A, B, C and D trains. Since then most of the G's operate in line 3 with the H and K series.
Until last year, the G operated in line 1 Blue to test the CTBC systems.