The best alternative to a RAV4? 2023 Subaru Forester review

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  • čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
  • The Subaru Forester SUV is a terrific option for those who don't want to wait for a Toyota RAV4.
    Like the RAV, the Forester comes with a choice of petrol, or petrol-electric hybrid. Both are offered with the brand's symmetrical all-wheel drive system, and that gives the Subie a nice point of difference.
    It really is a practical, well-priced and well equipped medium SUV - and while there are others out that that you might consider as rivals, this is a five-seat family SUV with a big boot and no third-row compromises on cargo space.
    Watch my review for all the important details.
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    00:00 Intro
    00:36 Is it the right price?
    02:40 What are the best alternatives?
    04:11 Is it the right size?
    05:16 Interior
    09:09 Under the bonnet
    10:06 Driving
    11:40 Efficiency
    12:41 Is it safe?
    13:52 Ownership
    14:43 Verdict
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  • @therightcar
    @therightcar  Před rokem +2

    If you haven't already, please subscribe! www.youtube.com/@therightcar?sub_confirmation=1

  • @andrewt3704
    @andrewt3704 Před 9 měsíci +21

    Took a test drive in this car today, and am now buying my first Subaru. I actually like the older style interior that still has buttons and knobs, not a fan of everything been controlled from the touch screen. Was very impressed with how roomy it was inside. Have been waiting for a Rav 4 for 12 months, and there have been 2 price increases in that time, it's just becoming too expensive, and it's only taking 2 weeks to get my Forester.

  • @Honestandtruth
    @Honestandtruth Před rokem +6

    Gotta love Subaru Forester 😍👍😍

  • @dennisgibbs5708
    @dennisgibbs5708 Před 10 měsíci

    Nice review. Thanks.

  • @Richard-sl8we
    @Richard-sl8we Před rokem +9

    Great review Matt; one of the most objective road testers on CZcams.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Glad you think so! Cheers for joining me for the ride!

  • @eddielia3177
    @eddielia3177 Před rokem +2

    I purchased the my 2022 Premium and absolutely love it. It’s all wheel drive system is fantastic in wet weather.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Great! So happy you’re happy with your car.

  • @ProfessorWesty
    @ProfessorWesty Před rokem +14

    I’ve just bought a 2023 Premium 2.5l model and you’ve nailed the key points for me.
    I live in NZ and while the RAV-4 hybrid would have been my first pick, my local dealer quoted a 2 to 3 year backlog and they had 31,000 people ahead of me in the queue. They weren’t even prepared to put me on the wait list.
    Our specs and warranty are quite different in NZ and most manufacturers only offer a 3 year warranty. Subaru extend this to 6 years if you purchase the 3 year service plan which works out cheaper on its own as you effectively pay for two services and get the third free.
    I considered other options but the warranty plus the better bang for buck you get compared to rivals for a really practical, safe and reliable SUV made this a no brainer.
    Very happy with my decision so far!

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Thanks for the feedback, and happy for your decision. I don't blame you for not wanting to be at the back of a queue that long!

    • @Nae395
      @Nae395 Před rokem

      31000??

    • @meohmia3562
      @meohmia3562 Před 11 měsíci

      This is a very helpful comment thank you.

  • @duncho1
    @duncho1 Před rokem

    Excellent review, thanks mate 👍

  • @TheHayabusa09
    @TheHayabusa09 Před rokem +1

    Great review Matt. Keep up the good work.

  • @rokana9641
    @rokana9641 Před rokem +2

    Great review as always

  • @KingOfShadows1500
    @KingOfShadows1500 Před 4 měsíci

    After watching all these American channels with a unit converter ready on the side, hearing someone finally use real units of measurement is like music to my ears! I can't even express how happy that made me!

  • @symphony2181
    @symphony2181 Před 9 měsíci

    Picking mine up tomorrow 👍🏾

  • @stendecstretcher5678
    @stendecstretcher5678 Před rokem +1

    Great review much better than the Chasing Cars review I watched recently. After watching and reflecting on some of your comments. I will probably go for the Sportage SX plus diesel.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Thanks! I’m getting a Sportage soon. Look forward to being reacquainted with it.

  • @michaelpayne5545
    @michaelpayne5545 Před 3 měsíci

    I bought a 2023 Subaru Forester Limited about 4-1/2 months ago. So far I love it! I’m in New Jersey in the United States. I was in an accident about 5-1/2 months ago and my car was totaled, but I was okay (walked away uninjured. I was driving a 2016 Subaru Impreza at the time, and given how well that protected me, decided I wanted another Subaru, but something a little bigger, which is why I went with the Forester.
    I actually wanted the Premium trim, but those seemed to be the most popular trim, as I the dealer didn’t have any on the lot specked the way I wanted, so I went with the Limited trim

  • @johnfricano2591
    @johnfricano2591 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great video!I recently leased a 2024 Forester Wilderness Edition in the US and it's the first car in a LONG time I am considering buying at lease end. It's also the first foreign car I have ever had in the US. It's a very impressive vehicle with plenty of safety features and power for normal driving. No regrets so far!

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před 5 měsíci

      Thanks for that - love the Wilderness spec, which we sadly don’t get here in Australia! I hope you keep loving it. 😊

  • @andrewleventis8341
    @andrewleventis8341 Před rokem +1

    excellent review, excellent car

  • @dkkli985
    @dkkli985 Před rokem +3

    Another quality review for sure.
    Been having my MY15 Forester (as a brand new car) for 8 years as a daily commuter. It's been dead solid with zero major issues so far, and to me, it just drives better than the RAV4, CRV, Sportage and Tucson. I didn't quite like the CVT at the beginning, but it only took me really just a couple of days to get used to it and since then, I don't quite mind it at all. It really gives me the good fuel consumption (8.6L/100KM for 125,000KM).
    Apparently the MY15 CVT isn't the most reliable one, but maybe because I am a moderate driver (TBH, I don't think how you can be aggressive with a 2.5 naturally aspirated engine paired with a CVT -_- ), the transmission of my car has no sign of any degradation or any oil leakage at all. I actually think the CVT is a better transmission if you just need something to get you from A to B.
    Anyway, I love my Forester and have no plan to sell it. I might use it for another 100,000KM and see how it can hold up.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for joining the conversation, and your kind words too.
      You won’t be the first Subie owner to say “just another hundred thousand kays and then I might sell it…” haha!

  • @realjohnboxall
    @realjohnboxall Před 2 měsíci +1

    05:08 We love our '23 2.5 Premium. As a forester person, we put amateur radio gear in the boot, along with a fridge, etc. '73!

  • @vhr199
    @vhr199 Před rokem +1

    I have the 2.5iS, bought in July 22. The vehicle is Gr8 with what you expect, Nice roomy with space for a 5 seater , with the predictable CVT band transmission - Doesn't feel bad at all. Perfect to commute the family with todds

  • @sujaykaul
    @sujaykaul Před 10 měsíci

    Just got the premium trim. Loving it.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před 10 měsíci

      Awesome! Glad you found The Right Car!

  • @maxd4968
    @maxd4968 Před rokem +1

    Got ours delivered in February and have been enjoying it so far, Ours is a blue 2.5is like this one. It’s really comfortable and the leg room is great and so is the boot. Love having a full size spare that’s why a RAV4 was off our list immediately. We had a 07 manual before so a lot of the weird quirks we are use to (like the middle seatbelt coming from the roof). We were concerned about the performance of the cvt compared to our old car (which I would actually class as pretty quick ) but even though it is slower it’s really not bad at all, it actually feels quick around town. The only issues I have with the car is that the radio doesn’t turn off so you have to mute it which is a bit strange and the “keep ur eyes on the road” thing is a bit annoying. Also it does feel a bit gutless overtaking at speed but I’m sure that’s just con with all cars that use a cvt but overtaking is definitely still possible. If you are someone that need to overtake a lot then I would buy a diesel

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Thanks Max! It sounds like it’s ticking most of the boxes for you.

  • @user-yh6sr6sb8i
    @user-yh6sr6sb8i Před měsícem +2

    This guy and John Cadogen do the best reviews

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před měsícem

      Esteemed company!

    • @tacca4720
      @tacca4720 Před měsícem

      Now that is genuinely fun… couple of Toyota fanboys there.

  • @dmoskaly
    @dmoskaly Před rokem +1

    Back in 2012 I had a look see at the Forester and only chose the RAV4 because of the seating, didn't "sit" well for us. I got the V6 RAV4 and (still is my primary) has been great for towing (3500 lbs spec) our teardrop and would feel my safety factor lessened with the current Forester's 3000 lb spec. Since they don't sell a V6 RAV anymore (2012 was the last) I suppose I would just move up to a Highlander with the 5000 lb spec. But....this was an excellent review. Just enough details, it hit the spot for information quenching in case a new vehicle was needed in my near future.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Hey Daniel - thanks heaps for the comment. I’m glad I could help you find *The Right Car?*

  • @ledzep3692
    @ledzep3692 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I have been waiting for a RAV4 xse premium for months until a few weeks ago I spotted a Subaru forester wilderness in traffic (on my way to Physical therapy stemming from a car wreck over a year ago) I researched every CZcams video on the forester that I could find ...and then decided that I want the Forester more than I wanted that RAV4. Fast forward to today I am the proud owner of an Autumn Green Metallic Forester Wilderness. I ❤️ my new Forester.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Good stuff mate! Glad you love it.

  • @brz757
    @brz757 Před rokem +1

    It's big inside, controls are all nice and chunky, and gas mileage is great on road trips. Mixed only got around 25mpg but highway we could brush against 35 pretty easy. Leg room side to side was tight though, my right knee always felt cramped against the center console.

  • @anthonyabdo5364
    @anthonyabdo5364 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Seat belt in the roof, so passangers closest aren't sitting on the buckel and when the seat is flattened the buckel doesn't damage the cushion when it is compressed, especially if a heavy item is on top

  • @martinh9120
    @martinh9120 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hi Matt, After driving Nissan products for 25 years, I swapped to a 2022 Forester, simply put, I love it. Thanks for the advise on pre paying the service costs, I will speak to my dealer on the GC.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před 10 měsíci

      Thanks mate - and glad I could be of help! Hope you love the Subie!

  • @MsNando21
    @MsNando21 Před rokem +1

    Nice review, I hope your channel gets more subscribers. All the best, I have a Crosstrek last 5 years and now I will upgrade for forester. No problems at all with my Crosstrek. I will let you know how it goes with forester. All the best.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Thank you! I only started the channel a few months ago so it’s going pretty well so far! Hoping to hit 20,000 by the end of the year. We’ll see!

    • @paulholterhaus7084
      @paulholterhaus7084 Před 9 měsíci

      I can see NO reason to buy a tiny, cramped Crosstrek when the Forester is nearly the same price.....Paul

  • @CigoLopov
    @CigoLopov Před rokem +2

    I've owned Forester E-Boxer (Hybrid) 2.0, year 2021, for 3 months now, I bought a used one in January and I made around 6.000 km until now, I drive mostly long distances and I'm very satisfied with the car. It's spacious and very safe. It took some time for me to getting used to CVT and compared to my previous cars I find it a bit underpowered, but pros outweigh the cons. My average consumption is from 7.8 L/100 km - 8 L/100 km, I guess it could be even a bit lower, but I don't drive slow on highways. Overall, I'm very satisfied with the car and if asked, I'd recommend it.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Thanks for the comment! And great to hear from an owner.

    • @maxd4968
      @maxd4968 Před 9 měsíci

      I’m not sure why you went for the hybrid if ur doing log distances. 2.5 is so much better at overtaking and is not much less efficient

    • @CigoLopov
      @CigoLopov Před 9 měsíci

      @@maxd4968 No 2.5 Forester in Europe.

  • @Krooker85
    @Krooker85 Před rokem +7

    I'd love to upgrade our 2017 XT but without a turbo option in the new models, it's hard to let it go. The Outback is now available with a turbo, hopefully Forester next!

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem +3

      I’ve got a review of the Outback XT coming…!

  • @alb4619
    @alb4619 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Went from a ‘19 Rav4 Adventure to a ‘23 Forester Wilderness due to the Rav having a hellacious roof rack water leak that Toyota refused to fix despite having an extended warranty. This water intrusion is well-documented amongst the ‘19-‘22 Rav’s so buyer beware if you want a used Rav4.
    The ‘23 FW does what it was designed to do very well. I tow a full size Harley with ease, and transport mt bikes way off road with ease. The weakness of the FW is the transmission….as several folks said, ditch the CVT bring back a conventional transmission similar to the RAV 4. Also, study the design/storage areas of the RAV’s front seats and use that as a go-by. The Rav has a nicer interior and is more pleasant driving around town. That said, very happy overall with the ‘23 FW.

  • @01nig57
    @01nig57 Před rokem +1

    You've got these reviews nailed. Everything I want to know in a package that's interesting. I haven't considered Subaru in the past, perhaps it will be on my possibility list to include a look at.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Thank you so much for the kind words. Glad you’re enjoying the reviews!

  • @leedaq7767
    @leedaq7767 Před rokem

    i have 2020 forester and waiting for wilderness version

  • @bananabear009
    @bananabear009 Před rokem +10

    Have been using it for 4 and a half years. Though it now feels like reaching the end of it’s life cycle now. But it still works well for almost every tasks for our family

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Thanks mate. Yep it is getting close to replacement time. Probably 2024. But it’s still a really good option!

    • @apoozeo1715
      @apoozeo1715 Před rokem

      Why do you say the end of life? How many miles does it have and what are the issues you are facing? Thank you!!

    • @bananabear009
      @bananabear009 Před rokem +1

      @@apoozeo1715 It works very well so far. Just that a new model is likely to come out in 2024

    • @benbendingrodriguez5572
      @benbendingrodriguez5572 Před 8 měsíci +1

      LOL 4 years and reaching it's end of life? You beat it the poor thing..

  • @johnnumbat9782
    @johnnumbat9782 Před rokem +5

    Thanks Matt - having owned 10 Subarus and over half of them Foresters I’d happily own a new one with some caveats - kill the CVT bring back the conventional auto and turbo engine, remove the stop/start system and include a factory 2” lift - they’ve been very reliable and I only upgraded due to lifestyle changes - brilliant AWD that all the other makes pretend to have - great customer/service culture too - I still have a runabout ‘06 Forester parked next to my Toyota Hilux.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      We can hope that the next one will be even more off-road focused.

    • @paulholterhaus7084
      @paulholterhaus7084 Před 8 měsíci

      I don't think You'll have to wait for the end of Sibies CVT.........The soon to come will have Toyota's E/CVT which is totally different/better..........Prius's have been doing 200,000 miles trouble free with similar set-ups..............Paul

    • @johnnumbat9782
      @johnnumbat9782 Před 8 měsíci

      @@paulholterhaus7084 thanks Paul - good to know Toyota now has a strong commitment with Subaru because the diesel and hybrid versions of the Forester were disastrous.

  • @mk.3925
    @mk.3925 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I bought the 23 sports one earlier this year, in March to be exact. I put fuel in it 5 or 6 times in 7 months. I drive it everyday everywhere too

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před 8 měsíci

      Good one mate. Sounds like you’re happy?

    • @mk.3925
      @mk.3925 Před 8 měsíci

      @@therightcar yup! I love it

  • @jameszottola9980
    @jameszottola9980 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Love the forester had seven Subaru’s 😊

  • @Doc1855
    @Doc1855 Před rokem +3

    Last December (22) I needed to replace my 12 year old Rav 4WD Limited.
    Naturally I thought I wanted to replace it with a new Rav AWD Limited.
    I was so disappointed that the fit and finish, the comfort, interior noise, the visibility was horrible in comparison to my previous Rav.
    I had to put studded tires on my Rav every winter as we live in a very mountainous area of north central Washington state and get 4-6 feet of snow every winter.
    We’re 5 miles from town and live on a private road that we have to plow and maintain ourselves.
    I then looked at the Forester Touring.
    I was so impressed by the quality, comfort, noise, Safety and superior AWD system of the Forester.
    The Rav felt like a cheap knock off of a good vehicle, yet the Forester is superb.
    I Love the saddle brown leather interior and the heated front and rear seats.
    My Forester is the first vehicle I’ve ever owned that I don’t have to fold down the rear seats when I have my dad’s wheelchair in the back.
    It has plenty of zip to it.
    I drove it all winter with the factory tires on it.
    I would recommend Subaru to anyone who wants a reliable, safe, comfortable AWD vehicle !

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem +1

      Thanks David! Really glad you’re happy with it - and your location sounds very interesting!

    • @Doc1855
      @Doc1855 Před rokem

      @@therightcar it’s very beautiful in our area of the USA.
      Washington state is a beautiful place for the most part.
      The SE area of our state is high desert

    • @paulholterhaus7084
      @paulholterhaus7084 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I have a 24 Touring on order.........The only other car I truly loved was My manual shift 2013 Forester........Paul

    • @paulholterhaus7084
      @paulholterhaus7084 Před 9 měsíci

      AND...It was totally fault free til I traded it............Paul

  • @happycamper2877
    @happycamper2877 Před rokem

    We have a 2022 forester and at 32 mpg in combined town and secondary hi-way,this has been an inexpensive very zippy little town and country vehicle, very capable in bad B.C. winter driving. Couldn't ask for more, time will tell the real story...

  • @Richard-sl8we
    @Richard-sl8we Před rokem +1

    Hi Matt,
    Any chance of a review of the updated 2023 Kluger hybrid GXL?

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      I'm waiting on a 2023 Kluger, but it won't be the hybrid. I've driven the hybrid, and it's great. But hoping to sample the turbo petrol soon for some context. It likely won't happen until May due to stock issues, but I'll post the review as a priority when it does happen. Thanks!

  • @owenjudd7466
    @owenjudd7466 Před 10 měsíci

    Have they put springs in it that aren't from a retractable pen?

  • @tekkastorm3358
    @tekkastorm3358 Před rokem

    I would have thought haval h6 or h6 hybrid be up there

  • @mmccbb7mcb278
    @mmccbb7mcb278 Před rokem +1

    I have owned 3 Forestors. Excellent vehicle, spacious, modern and value for money.
    Not the prettiest car on the road but entirely practical. Would love to see the return of the turbo.
    Great video.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Thanks!!

    • @paulholterhaus7084
      @paulholterhaus7084 Před 9 měsíci

      Far better than a turbo is what Toyota has with it's 300hp prime using 3 electric motors plus assist from the World's most efficient Atkinson cycle 2.5 Engine......Best of both World's...............Paul

  • @labrat7357
    @labrat7357 Před 7 měsíci

    Tomorrow I will be placing an order for a Subaru Forrester in premium trim and the main reason , It is one of only three medium SUVs I can fit my large frame into. I am 185cm tall and 80cm wide at the points of my shoulders and arms, I weigh 150kg and have a naturally occurring fusion of my spine including neck so can not bend well, (as an aside I do not fit in a big bore MRI unit). I found this vehicle, the Subaru Forrester, easy to get into and get out off and comfortable and spacious while in the passenger seat.
    The vehicles I could barley fit inside were the Toyota Rav 4 and the Kia Sportage.Once inside the door pressed on my left side and the centre console on my right side. I would have found a trip of a couple of hours in them almost torturous. Surprisingly vehicles I could not even get into included the rest of the Toyota range including the hilux, the Fortuna, the Prado and the Kluger. I did not try the 300 series Landcruiser as I have previously not been able to get into my brothers.
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    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před 7 měsíci

      Thank you for your comment, and I’m glad you found The Right Car!

  • @camf7522
    @camf7522 Před rokem +3

    I would put the Forester as the #1 pick in this category, it is more practical than the RAV4 and a proper full time AWD.
    In addition, the depreciation is far less on any Subaru.
    I agree the Hybrid is not worth the money.
    I was recently told the wait time for a RAV4 is 12 to 18 months.

  • @aerienix
    @aerienix Před rokem +3

    One thing to note is that the current gen Fozzy is close to being the only Subie with the 8-inch media display (with the impreza and xv-now-crosstrek looming in the horizon). Not too big a fan of shoving everything in a screen but people do get used to it.
    I myself have a MY22 Sport, which I’d argue is the pick of the bunch, only really losing out on the (admittedly good) 8-speaker system vs the 2.5i-S. I’d describe it at perfectly adequate, and the only gripes I have with it are:
    1. The lack of lumbar adjustment on the front seats
    2. The lack of ventilation on the front seats - cloth on the seats help during hot days
    2. The lack of a full surround view camera - the fish bowl does supplement the existing trail vision systems
    But really, these are minor nitpicks on an otherwise competent entry into the segment.
    Here’s hoping we get the Wilderness, or even a 2.4XT, in the near future.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem +1

      Thanks heaps for the comment! I’m glad you like your Sport. And yep, I mentioned the size of the screen in the video - I don’t mind it because I like buttons and knobs and dials.

    • @aerienix
      @aerienix Před rokem

      @@therightcar You and me both! Lamenting that the Foz will very likely move to the big screen once the next gen arrives.

    • @paulholterhaus7084
      @paulholterhaus7084 Před 9 měsíci

      Why no lumbar support..??.........My 2013 had excellent lumbar support.....Did Subie discontinue it..?????....Paul

    • @aerienix
      @aerienix Před 8 měsíci

      @@paulholterhaus7084 Adjustable lumbar I mean. Other markets have it but here no current gen Foz gets adjustable support.

  • @kevinvalenzuela4354
    @kevinvalenzuela4354 Před rokem

    We have the MY23 L, and agreed that its the best for the money. Could not see 10k worth for some leather seats, some more electrical components and a speaker lol

  • @raymondgrose9118
    @raymondgrose9118 Před rokem +3

    I have a 2023 Sport.
    Much nicer to drive than the 2021 Premium I lost in an accident. I do find the electronic driver aids annoying, especially the lane keeping function. I have also found an “Auto Stop Eliminator” which is a small plug In device that prevents the engine stop start at traffic lights etc.
    The CVT takes a little getting used to. I think the Eyesight in this one is a little more mature than the 2021 model? It hasn’t slammed on the brakes when it sees a wheelie bin on the side of the road.
    Great huge sunroof. Well built and good value for money.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Thanks for your thoughts Raymond!

    • @TVeres-3dRm
      @TVeres-3dRm Před rokem +1

      You don't need 'plug in device' to deactivate the stop/start function at traffic lights. 2023 Forester has a shut off button for that just to the lower left of the steering wheel on the dash. It works!

    • @benbendingrodriguez5572
      @benbendingrodriguez5572 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@TVeres-3dRm....Yes but you have to push it every time you start the car...

    • @benbendingrodriguez5572
      @benbendingrodriguez5572 Před 8 měsíci

      Where did you find the auto stopper????

  • @jp7585
    @jp7585 Před rokem +3

    This video is absolutely right about waiting months or even years for a RAV4 hybrid. I got 34 mpg (aggregate city/highway driving) from my last Forester, so jumping to 40 mpg on the RAV4 Hybrid makes sense if you're sure you're keeping the car 7-10 years or longer (to finally save money) because the RAV4 Hybrid is $8,000 more around here.... and I was on the waiting list for 9 months before I finally gave up. $8,000 buys a LOT of gas!

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem +1

      You bet!

    • @paulholterhaus7084
      @paulholterhaus7084 Před 9 měsíci

      You get FAR more than economy with the Prime......300HP and smoothness of driving 40 miles on pure electric.......No engine noise...............Paul

    • @richardbuckingham4329
      @richardbuckingham4329 Před 7 měsíci

      @@paulholterhaus7084 unfortunately the Prime is not available in Australia.

    • @richardbuckingham4329
      @richardbuckingham4329 Před 7 měsíci

      And if the prime was available, how much would they charge for it?

  • @JP-lu9ed
    @JP-lu9ed Před rokem

    Thank you for the practical review. Rav 4 more plentiful here on west coast of USA. We tried to like the Rav 4 but it has worse visibility than the Forester and more road noise so would choose Forester or Mazda over the Rav 4. The Mazda is giving the Forester a run for its money in our looking things over here. But have had and liked two Foresters. The Mazda not quite as much cargo space, but easy to park in urban area when parking spaces (including our garage) are not enormous. It's frustrating that models we like keep inching up in size especially width and our 1920's garage is not growing :-).

    • @Parker12612
      @Parker12612 Před 11 měsíci

      It may not matter to you, but of the three the Forester is the only one really capable off the tarmac. The Mazda is the worst in that regard.

    • @paulholterhaus7084
      @paulholterhaus7084 Před 9 měsíci

      My new CX30 rides like a Hay Wagon....Have new Forester on order.........Paul

    • @paulholterhaus7084
      @paulholterhaus7084 Před 9 měsíci

      ALSO........Has not useable rear seat....small Kids only..............Paul

  • @terrilikens4975
    @terrilikens4975 Před 9 měsíci

    As someone who buys CDs from small-venue musical artists, I'm kind of glad there's still a CD player.

  • @sebastiankang74
    @sebastiankang74 Před rokem +1

    Waiting for the rumoured "new" Forester version ... 1.8 XT + hybrid and hopefully with X Mode

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Might be a while - expect it in 2024 for new-gen Forester, maybe 2025 (if ever!) for a turbo! :D

  • @Painting_Inspiration
    @Painting_Inspiration Před rokem +4

    The Mazda CX-50 is the best alternative to both the Toyota Rav4 and the Subaru Forrester.......👍

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem +2

      If only we got it here in Australia... :SAD:

    • @maxd4968
      @maxd4968 Před rokem

      Don’t get the CX-50 here

    • @dianaleon1752
      @dianaleon1752 Před rokem +1

      How is the gas mileage? I’ve heard it is bad?

    • @Painting_Inspiration
      @Painting_Inspiration Před rokem +1

      @@dianaleon1752 it is slightly worse gas mileage than the cx5, but it is also heavier and has a more robust awd system to compete with the likes of Subaru. Im surprised it hasnt landed in Australia as there is a large off roading community there.

  • @ozymandias7940
    @ozymandias7940 Před 2 měsíci

    One of the best reviews of the Forester I've seen. It's funny how different reviews can be for the exact same care. I think more than a few reviewers are not completely unbiased and sometimes wonder if some are even paid to steer you in the wrong direction!
    Anyways, I pick up my very own 2023 2.5iS next week and I can't wait.
    So people, absolutely watch the reviews, but go and have a test drive yourself and make your own decision as to whether it's the right car for you!

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před 2 měsíci

      With respect for the majority of my colleagues in the industry (there are some notable exceptions who also have an axe to grind with some brands), it’s not something that I engage with. I always try and give the best advice for the buyer of each type of car.
      Yep, exactly. Research, cross reference, and then go for a test drive. I’m amazed how many people don’t test drive these days!

  • @davidmahan4160
    @davidmahan4160 Před rokem +1

    I have a Hybrid Forester, its not very good at saving fuel, but I do pay less annual VED tax than the Rav 4, I also pay less insurance a year than a Rav 4.
    The electric motor and battery are too small, and surprisingly they are made by Toyota.
    So, the Subaru Forester is cheaper to insure, tax and service than the Rav 4.
    I love my Forester. 😊

  • @GlowingTube
    @GlowingTube Před rokem

    Looks like Subaru are having transmission issues in Australia because they say the transmission fluid is sealed for life. In Japan, there is a service schedule for the same transmission. Sure you could change the fluid at 90,000kms but it costs close to $1,000! Crossed off my shopping list already.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem +1

      Hey, anyone who has owned a Subaru knows that spending $1000 (or a lot more) on something at 90,000km is par for the course.

    • @GlowingTube
      @GlowingTube Před rokem

      @@therightcar Yes, I know as a past owner. I can also attest to Subaru Australia’s average customer support, expensive service and parts and thin warranty (squeaks and rattles only covered in the first 12 months).

  • @markscott2215
    @markscott2215 Před rokem +1

    Having owned a forester, I’m glad they continue to forgo aesthetics and fit nice fat tyres to their SUVs. I recently had a povvo pack sportage rental for 3 weeks on Adelaide’s quite bad suburban roads and the low speed ride comfort on the the 17 inch wheels was outstanding. I then test drove some higher spec sportages on 18 & 19 inch wheels and the ride was noticeably less comfortable on city streets. Why do manufacturers force us to choose a less comfortable ride to get the the features we want? ( case in point - Mitsubishi outlander). I get that low profile tyres offer superior performance on sports cars, but only contribute to the looks of an SUV, with the inevitable comfort trade-off. SUV manufacturers should follow Subarus lead and put the nice soft squishy high profile tyres on anything without adjustable dampers. Rant over.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Hey Mark. Designers want us to want big wheels. They look better in the arches! But it’s consumers who desire bigger wheels, and brands put them on the more expensive models because - I guess - those buyers are more concerned with appearances than depth of character…?
      Yes, the Sportage on 17s is a squishfest. Love it.

    • @markscott2215
      @markscott2215 Před rokem +1

      Thanks Matt. Love your work

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Thank you!

    • @paulholterhaus7084
      @paulholterhaus7084 Před 9 měsíci

      It would please Me greatly if MFG's would keep wheel size down to 17" and keep tire profile at 65 series better ride and better for ALL other than race car Drivers and Childish Adults wanting to drive fast and foolishly...............Paul

  • @car24dude
    @car24dude Před 9 měsíci

    I got lucky getting my new 2023 RAV4 hybrid, only waited 2 weeks.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před 9 měsíci

      You are the exception that proves the rule!

  • @lowkeyconvert8971
    @lowkeyconvert8971 Před 10 měsíci +1

    are subaru hybrids worth buying now? my understanding that the hybrid introduced just last year didn't really have much effect on fuel economy so it wasn't worth buying compared to petrol only.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před 10 měsíci

      They’re not like Toyota hybrids. Not as efficient as they could be, in fact, considering the price premium.

  • @richardulrich6089
    @richardulrich6089 Před rokem +3

    How did you find the combination of the engine and cvt? I've heard that Suburu's cvts are pretty ordinary.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem +2

      I actually found it to be quite good. It managed to make the engine feel more perky than it should be, and while it is hardly a quiet thing under throttle, it’s better than some others.

    • @eskieman3948
      @eskieman3948 Před rokem +3

      That's not correct. Subaru's CVTs are about as good as you can get in the current market. There are legions of anti-Subaru trolls around (many on CZcams), and they love to bash everything Subaru, including their CVTs.

  • @slyarsenal
    @slyarsenal Před rokem

    The design belongs in the early 2000s

  • @debbiedarcy904
    @debbiedarcy904 Před 8 měsíci

    How many years can you expect to get out of these please?

  • @hrishikeshgurjar
    @hrishikeshgurjar Před rokem +1

    Between Subaru Forrester Sport and Kia Sportage SX+ 2l petrol, who would be ur pick?

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      I would personally choose the Forester.

  • @balutvm2008
    @balutvm2008 Před rokem +2

    Hi Matt, wondering why CX-5 didn't make into your best alternatives list.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      I’m reviewing one this week - it’s a good option but feels it’s age now, no hybrid option, silly non-touchscreen, smaller boot than rivals… a few reasons there.

    • @balutvm2008
      @balutvm2008 Před rokem +1

      @@therightcar ok, please bring the review asap. It belongs to a minority group of normally aspirated or turbo petrol engine with a torque converter.

    • @markscott2215
      @markscott2215 Před rokem +1

      The CX-5 is really one size down with its cramped rear cabin and boot. Fun to drive but not a genuine mid-size SUV for families.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      @@markscott2215 Yeah, it's not nearly as practical as most of the others in the segment. I've got one this week, and it's a half-size smaller. But some 'small' SUVs are so much bigger now, like the Jolion or Seltos, that it makes the CX-5 feel really badly like an in-betweener.

    • @eskieman3948
      @eskieman3948 Před rokem

      @@therightcar You're right. The CX-5 isn't a bad SUV, but at least over in the States, people go ga-ga over them. You've already identified the same concerns that I had (I bought an Outback XT instead), but the car reviewers still drool over them. Mazda has the ability to redesign and rebuild their entire line into really great vehicles, but from what I've seen (CX-30, CX-50, ex.).... meh. They can do better! I will say this: I would definitely buy a Mazda SUV before I would buy any current gen RAV4. Toyota could do WAAY better than what they've done with the RAV4.

  • @paulholterhaus7084
    @paulholterhaus7084 Před 9 měsíci

    According to rumors from Japan, The 2025 will have a high output Hybred copying the RAV4 which should be very nice.....to be released summer 2024................Paul

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před 9 měsíci

      Yep, more closely aligned in the next-gen model between RAV4 and Forester. Should be a game-changer for the Fozzie!

  • @paulkuras18
    @paulkuras18 Před 4 měsíci

    What the hell do you need front seat warmers in Australia for

  • @youtuber23_handle
    @youtuber23_handle Před rokem

    questions are these prices canada $?
    i see 27 K base price in US

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Haha do I sound like I’m Canadian? These are Australian prices mate.

  • @markdale5076
    @markdale5076 Před rokem +1

    Hi Mat great work so confused was looking a kia sportage petrol but after driving the diesel it was much nicer , thing is my wife is travelling short distances what would you suggest thanks Mark

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Thanks Mark.
      Sounds like you could be a candidate for a plug-in hybrid SUV, if short trips are the only thing your wife is planning to do. Would you consider that? And does the budget allow for it?

    • @markdale5076
      @markdale5076 Před rokem +1

      @@therightcar haven't looked at any yet we are after a mid size suv as need to place a walker for the mother inlaw just tested the subaru outback very to nice car to drive should i be trying to stay clear of the Cvt auto as most mid size use them thanks for your response. Mark

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem +1

      Thanks Mark. Look, as you say, lots of brands use them. It should only really matter if you plan to hang on to it longer than the warranty period. If not, do what you think is right!

    • @markdale5076
      @markdale5076 Před rokem +1

      @@therightcar thanks Mat looks like the Subaru outback next question is turbo or non turbo thanks Mark

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem +2

      I've got a review on the Outback turbo coming soon, and - spoiler alert - I struggle to see how the turbo is worth $5000 more. It's a good engine, but it's not game changing. My advice - non-turbo.

  • @EastWood2004
    @EastWood2004 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The engine was very noisy and harsh. I thought it was from the boxer engine layout. If you drive a skoda Karoq you can tell how refined the skoda is.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před 10 měsíci

      It’s completely different engine technology. A non-turbo boxer is always going to be a vastly different drive to a turbocharged small-capacity in-line four-cylinder petrol.
      And don’t forget the transmission - CVT in Subaru, vs 8-speed auto in base Karoq or 7-speed DSG dual clutch in top spec.

  • @paulholterhaus7084
    @paulholterhaus7084 Před 8 měsíci

    I'm giving up My new CX30...Going back to the Forester........The ride quality/Horrible seat in the CX30 is just TOO hard on an 80 year old Man.............And I'm also extremely anxious too see the rumoured 25' high output Hybred..........Paul

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před 8 měsíci

      Hi Paul. I hope you are happy with the Forester! Shame about your CX-30 experience. Good luck!

  • @richardbolitho
    @richardbolitho Před 11 měsíci +1

    My only concern now is that the new engine is direct injection only so that might be a problem with carbon buildup in the future?

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před 11 měsíci

      You'd need to speak to a Subaru mechanic...

  • @antonpham9109
    @antonpham9109 Před rokem

    Did anyone get problem with CTV transmission .. I love this car, but I wanna hear from reality

  • @robertceroli3512
    @robertceroli3512 Před rokem +2

    Months and months wait for the RAV4 lol try years and years up to 3'if you can't wait deal with a scalper

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      There are RAVs out there - I know someone who drove past a dealer in Wellington NSW and found an XSE hybrid, just waiting to be bought. You gotta be willing to think outside the cities.

  • @tonycoz2309
    @tonycoz2309 Před rokem +1

    So much going for it but looking outdated now compared to competition. Let's hope they get the looks right on the new 2025 Forester.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      I hope so too!

    • @eskieman3948
      @eskieman3948 Před rokem +1

      Looking and BEING "outdated now compared to competition" are two entirely different things. If you look at the competition with a truly objective eye..... "outdated" slowly fades away. Aside from that, 'looks' never got me one mile further down the road.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Well put

    • @tonycoz2309
      @tonycoz2309 Před rokem

      @@eskieman3948 I appreciate your point but I believe Forester sales are currently at their lowest levels in years so the buying public don't all have practicality on top of their buying priority lists.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem +2

      Not quite -- well, not in Australia, at least. Sales are up 43% in the first quarter, year to date.

  • @buncha5651
    @buncha5651 Před rokem +1

    CVT the killer for me.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      You always say that!

    • @buncha5651
      @buncha5651 Před rokem

      @@therightcar
      I know I hate them.

    • @eskieman3948
      @eskieman3948 Před rokem

      @@buncha5651 They hate you back, I'd suppose.

    • @maxd4968
      @maxd4968 Před rokem

      @@buncha5651 honestly it isn’t that bad

  • @austin.2716
    @austin.2716 Před rokem +2

    As a Rav4 hybrid owner, don’t tell anyone but I really like the Forester. Shhhh 😂. But I’m a Toyota man so as good as the Forester is, I’ll probably never own one myself.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Yeah look there are people like you all over the place! 😉

  • @darylslee4965
    @darylslee4965 Před rokem +1

    When Subaru can admit that their recommended 00-20 engine oil grade is destroying engines prematurely, and come up with a revised heavier oil grade, I will reconsider my opinion on not ever buying another post 2012 year model Sub of any variety.

  • @mrz1281
    @mrz1281 Před rokem +1

    hired one and toured NZ, was ok but gutless most of the time. needs a turbo.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem +1

      Fair call. Bring back the XT! Just don’t charge an extra $5000 as is the case with the Outback…

    • @mrz1281
      @mrz1281 Před rokem +1

      @@therightcar yer the premium price for a turbo slapped on the side is far too much.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Exactly my thoughts!

  • @Prometheus20236
    @Prometheus20236 Před rokem +1

    The best alternative honda crv hibrid

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      No CR-V hybrid here yet. Maybe when the new model launches… hopefully I’ll review it when it does!

    • @JP-lu9ed
      @JP-lu9ed Před rokem

      Where we are Honda has a reputation for being a big target for catalytic converter thieves and general object of car theft, so we haven't even test driven one.

  • @jonire8917
    @jonire8917 Před rokem +1

    Goof review! I have had the hybride for 6month and so far combined I am at 0.79l/10km. For long trips mainly 80-100km/h roads I can get sub 0.70 averaging around 0.65-0.67 with family and full packaging. Its hard to compare official figures, testers figures etc. Hybride system helps out in town, and for roads trips with 80km/h wich are hilly. Then you gain electric power in downhill and the electric machine assists in the up-hills. Flat roads with high speeds then a hybride system dont matters. Just extra weight. I also like the instant extra +50Nm torque of the e-machine.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Thank you! Great feedback. Are you happy with the car?

    • @jonire8917
      @jonire8917 Před rokem +1

      @@therightcar yes, I like it a lot. Hybride works perfect for my ”cycle”. Getting kids from and to school in town, some country rosd driving and some longer ”hilly” trips. 👍🤗

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      So good!

  • @jamestan4425
    @jamestan4425 Před 7 měsíci

    Rav 4 cannot be compared to subaru forester . Subaru is the best

  • @1969cmp
    @1969cmp Před rokem +1

    ....and the 'X'

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      X wasn’t included because it’s a special edition.

    • @1969cmp
      @1969cmp Před rokem +1

      @@therightcar...ah....thx.

  • @Cashewnutter112
    @Cashewnutter112 Před rokem +1

    Ahhh… you were doing so well until I saw you’re a Rabbitoh supporter 😂

  • @Doc1855
    @Doc1855 Před rokem +1

    WOW, your prices are HIGH.
    A Touring Forester sells for $38K in America

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem

      Yep, Aussie prices are high - but you’ve got a much bigger new car market.

    • @Doc1855
      @Doc1855 Před rokem

      @@therightcar Not for long. Our interest rate has increased by quite a bit.
      Ford Motor company just asked our Government for a $60 Billion Dollar Loan because the costs of a new F150 has hit an average price of $90K and people can’t afford it

    • @351tgv
      @351tgv Před rokem

      at current exchange rate $38,000 USD is approx $56,500 (for a straight swap not including fees and other costs)
      this particular version in USD is $31,300 (without taxes/registration etc). So you guys are being ripped $6,700 USD.

    • @Doc1855
      @Doc1855 Před rokem

      @@351tgv I’m sure we are.
      Everyone thinks Americans are wealthy but most barely make it.
      They literally live paycheck to paycheck and most need government assistance to get by.

  • @paulholterhaus7084
    @paulholterhaus7084 Před 9 měsíci

    $500/Year for servicing .??...........I've never paid more the $50.!!!.........7500/Miles/Year......One oil change........What is the Xtra $450 for..??????..................Paul

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před 9 měsíci

      It's just what the dealers charge!

  • @joelthorne7434
    @joelthorne7434 Před 10 měsíci

    Too many quality and reliability issues with Subaru to justify buying one over a Rav.

  • @leifandersen2756
    @leifandersen2756 Před rokem

    But the trouble with the engines will surely continue ! The boxer engine should be abandoned !

  • @rman8853
    @rman8853 Před 7 měsíci

    CVT transmission, No Thanks

  • @zudaysifarabadan4248
    @zudaysifarabadan4248 Před rokem

    Tell me his money

  • @livinginwilderness7913
    @livinginwilderness7913 Před rokem +1

    Sorry man, the Rav 4 is the alternative.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem +1

      Yeah that’s what I’m saying 😎😂

  • @radioactiveali4619
    @radioactiveali4619 Před 6 měsíci

    I want to like this car but the styling is so dated. I cringe every time I see one.

  • @bigbopper143
    @bigbopper143 Před rokem +1

    Subaru is now under Toyota supervision and will always play second fiddle 😂😂😂

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před rokem +1

      Hey, there are worse companies to play second fiddle to…!

    • @bigbopper143
      @bigbopper143 Před rokem

      @@therightcar If you want BLAND

  • @lapetitemortbis
    @lapetitemortbis Před 8 měsíci

    I know this is a super solid car. No doubt. But why but why design such an ugly car? There are brands that have a cache of not being so “ pretty” such as the old volvo’s or Saab’s but this
    …, this is not that. This is something else and I just don’t get it. I absolutely loved the old foresters. I think like 2006-7 … This is just horrible stuff and it is such a shame because it is probably the best car of its segment.

  • @peterkirgan2921
    @peterkirgan2921 Před 8 měsíci

    Both rubbish give me a classic car anyday!,!!!😂vh commodore ek1 honda civic kq ford laser etc

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  Před 8 měsíci

      Okay bro.

    • @peterkirgan2921
      @peterkirgan2921 Před 8 měsíci

      Thanks mate ! 😂I will not part with my fathers EK1 anniversary model Civic 1997

    • @peterkirgan2921
      @peterkirgan2921 Před 8 měsíci

      Nearly 30 years on still turns heads especially around Cronulla in Sydney's south