In this video, I discuss the differences between the GSG MP40 pistol and an original WWII MP40. This is a table-top comparison and side by side overview. Enjoy. Thanks!
Bakelite under the barrel allows to hook the gun in the armored vehicle firing port, and prevents the muzzle from backing into the vehicle during firing and bullets ricocheting inside.
Despite being from the 40's the original MP40 seems to be made to a higher standard of manufacture. That being said, I'm still very happy that ATI is bringing in 9mm MP40s!
The MP40 was actually a cheapened version of the MP38 because the MP38 was a milled receiver and expensive to make. The MP40 was essentially the cheap version with mostly stamped parts to consume less raw materials and speed up production.
Almost all Machine Pistols (MP) or its later brethren sub-machine guns are stamped, they're designed to be produced quickly and cheaply, this is why the US military no longer uses them, last one was the M3. The M3 or known in the military as the grease gun, was a flop! Started production in 1942,issued to tankers some paratroopers, staff and artillery units. Because of its stamped production, using plastic parts in some cases it was prone to literally falling apart when fired because it's an inertia cyclic weapon. But hey, they looked, cool! en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_submachine_gun
I dunno, look at how poor the machining is on the bottom of the upper on the original. Other than the recoil spring assembly, the clone looks higher quality and generally improves on the original while keeping the aesthetics 99% intact.
I got mine and I LOVE it, no issues great shooter, read a lot about things vibrating out no issues, just lock tight the usual things, like screws that hole the black plastic down, put around 200 rnds through it without a cleaning and no failures, the bar that connects the trigger is a bit mushy under the ejection side plastic bit, but Atlantic wall blanks sells a good stainless steel replacement, or if you're feeling frisky you can make your own, all in all great gun, I hope some one makes Bakelite replacements for the black polymer some day!
I saw another video on replacing the trigger bar like the one Atlantic Wall sells. So I decided to make my own I will attach a photo if possible. Not having the oval slot in the front takes a lot of play/sloppiness out of the trigger.
Cory R Understood, but this is completely different. The disassembly, the safety, the magazine incompadibilty. It doesn't even hold 32 which I thought was a trademark of this gun. The hi-visbility night sights, cheap pot metal...wtf. An abomination I tell you!
I was on a waiting list for one of these back in March with my dealer, but something odd happened where ATI ran out of stock or my dealer got lost on the list or something of a combo of the two. I'm a bit salty about it, because I was going to be cut a good deal on it.
Great video! I got one coming in. Years back while with a WW-II SS reenactment group, one of our members had the real thing and I got the chance to fire it full auto with live rounds, it was a beautiful weapon. The GSG MP4- I'm buying will just be for plinking at the range and not for hunting/home defense as I have several AR's and more various weapons for that purpose.
Thank you for this comparison. I've been pretty set on buying the ATI but never realized just how much different it was from an original. Also now I know ahead of time how to take it apart to clean it
Very well done review. Do you know if the bakelite grips and forearm are interchangeable? There are some nice Bakelite repro grips out there which I'd like to use and replace the cheap plastic ones on the GSG
Why is there so much hate for the replica? It's $500, not $5000 and certainly not $30,000. It still fires and it's still cool to own! The price is right IMO
The original MP40 system was open bolt action, it can full auto because operate much cooler than closed-bolt designs due to the airflow allowed into the chamber
That sear is basically the same as a ppsh-41 open bolt machine gun. The only purpose of the trigger is to move the stub out of the way for the travel of the bolt! Thanks Chris!
those things on the front fold out, so can be hooked on a sandbag etc. Military vehicles have swivels where you can set it in, for more controlled fire.
I've ran close to 1500 rounds threw mine it's great fun love the gsg mp-40 only jammed once on me so far yeah it's not an exact replica and that is sad but none the less considering it's 650$ vs 20000$ or so for a mp-40 from ww2 I'm extremely happy with it I would recommend this if you don't have alot of money to spend on a real mp-40
They're selling almost the same version here in Germany, except for to folding Stock and the pushpin being a headless screw, also the muzzle looks little different.
Thank you. I just received an ATI GSG MP 40 for my birthday. Since I don't have several thousand dollars for an orginal, my wife bought me the ATI. Still scrathes my old weapon itch.
Thanks for "Taking Down" the actual MP-40, I was going to do a similar video. Having paid for a Class 3 MP, I know how stressful that would be for me! I've had the ATI/GSG version since they came out. I'd say they FTF/FTE LESS than the WW2 variant. -Cheers-!
Regulas The aluminum bar performed 2 functions. First to aid in cooling the barrel and more importantly to prevent the barrel from being pulled out of a firing port when being fired, thus shooting into the vehicle.
2 questions,, can one add the folding stock from an original mp40 or another gsg mp40-22 to the gsg 9mm? can the front barrel muzzle "nut" from the original be put on the 9mm gsg mp40?...great channel u know your guns,,, gotta ask is gsg gonna make a mg34 or fg42?? wouldnt that be kool! i hav the mp44 n mp40 22s they make
Matthew Kuhn they’re not banned the ones made from 81 to 86 are considered full auto no matter what making them nfa items and ones made post 86 can only be owned by dealers ones that are semi made before 81 are still considered semi and need no paper work
@@WildernessMedic some weapons made today are open bolt and are not banned, SCAR, FS 2000 and a couple others, it's a cost thing mostly. Plus some weapons today have what's known as a combination bolt, my M1A1 SOCOM comes to mind, last round the bolt will remain open and you can hit the release and it will slam home (i do mean slam with an M1A1!), loading a round, so it's called a combination bolt or as we call them a half bolt! Anyway, technically no you don't have to register an open bolt unless automatic, technically yes you can own without registering, like most of the NFA or 922r compliant (commonly called the 2nd arms control act, although really the 4th ,...34, 68,86 & 97), they're ambiguous!
That's an interesting theory, I haven't thought of that. My thinking was, that since MP40s were primarily made for tank crews, the thread was for portholes, just like on Russian BMPs. I recall, Germans were toying with the concept of periscopic gun adapter for shooting out of the hatch, but the adapters I've seen were primarily for Stg 44.
Great vid.... Just one criticism, keep the hand movements slow and allow for proper focusing of the subject. For example, Just as the object come into focus, you move it away...very tiring on the eye's to follow through all the movements...slow and deliberate would have made this for me, a excellent vid...thanks and keep up the good work.
I'd love to get one if these, but the exposed recoil spring just kinda kills it. It makes it look cheap or like a BB or airsoft gun. They should have at least blued the spring or telescoped it like the original. Damn, so close in appearance but falls just a bit short for the money.
On the ww2 one I noticed the sling mount is on the left did you get it on the left they were traditionally on the right this is me just being very critical
If I, somehow, put a rifle length barrel on and a stock would that be fine? I don't know how the NFA works, is the receiver "locked" to being certain things? Would i need to do paperwork or some shit if I, for some reason, wanted to put a rifle length barrel and stock on the gun?
Well for the reenactors its great. They are cheaper to feed than the open bolts because of fire rates. Collectors yep get a real one. We carry a lot of originals in the field. It's a bad day when you loose a mag. These you can beat up who cares! The only design flaw or feature with the gsg is the charging handle can fall out in the field. Which happened to one of my pards. We had to share one between us. But other than that, blank or live fire mine has been reliable. ATI is working on a folding stock kit. So with a few mods and upgrades it will suffice.
I just bought the gsg today And I can not lock the bolt It won’t go up into the locking mode It charges Any ideas? It’s brand new not a used one either
Hey there! A question, is the bakelite parts from an Original MP40 are fitting on the GSG one? If it does, Could you make a vid of that because I wish to change the plastic fore and pistol grips.
Update I have gotten my MP40. All I need is the SBR stamp from the Fed's ( ATF), for my folding stock which costs $200 and a background check , and all set I have gotten the sling for it , totally awesome I think my AR-15 will be jealous 😅🤣🤭 🇺🇲👍🏻
Only Germans can make a weapon so close to the original yet make it completely non interchangeable. That's skill these may be cheap replicas but to make it look so close is a big win in my book . I bought one and I can wait to fire the one I ordered . Is the charging handle in the original removable
What I wonder is that the sling ring is on the left side of the ww2 mp 40. Usually the ring was on the right side. Did the germans produced different versions?
Lots of hate here but hell I think the GSG holds up great! Gives a lot of people a chance to have a great historic replica that they'd otherwise never be able to own
Превосходный обзор. Лайк! В России таких чудесных изделий даже на чердаках осталось немного... Excellent overview. Like! In Russia, there are not many such wonderful products even "in attics"...
hmm... so the mp40 was the original "tupperware" gun?? bakelite is so named bcs of its initial use for cooking pot handles correct? is the replica a straight blowback action then since mass was in no way limited w/ the 8-lb heft?
Have wanted one since i was 7 yrs old when i watched my first ww2 movie i'm 55 now thought about the one in 22 lr but hated what was hanging off the front of the barrel i do have the gsg stg 44 & the mp 5 had no problems with either me & my 2 sons love them ! we can't wait to get the mp 40 !
Our guns laws are ridiculous, it legal to have a bump fire stock turning your SKS into full automatic but not a swing out metal stock for your semi-automatic GSG MP40.
More likely the differences such as mag sizes and charging handle differences were due to ATF requirements. We saw this with the Kahr semi reproduction of the Thompson 1928 where differences in tolerances and bolt design would make it difficult to interchange parts with the original full auto version.
I'm sorry But the historical Inaccuracy of the shortness of the charging slot with the charging handle kinda pisses me off maybe I'm missing.g something as why they did that?
Bakelite is not exactly the most toughest plastic if anything it was more on the brittle side, the reason the MP40s Bakelite was durable was because it was think, other things like the butter dish would snap and crumble, I know from experience lol
Repeal the NFA
Funny how these are (will be) perfectly fine to own in Canada. Suckers.
Jordan Kipp these are perfectly legal in the US, too. They’re just neutered by the factory(no stock and semi auto only)
@@Strato50 we have more freedom here an we have the balls to rise up one day
Jordan Kipp atleast we can own ak’s because our government isnt retarded
Anyone against repealing the NFA should turn in all their firearms to the police and continue voting for Democrats.
Bakelite under the barrel allows to hook the gun in the armored vehicle firing port, and prevents the muzzle from backing into the vehicle during firing and bullets ricocheting inside.
Ingenious
Just ordered one, and can't wait to give it a shot... or more. Figured that there won't be anything closer to the original for the price, so I jumped.
Is it a good shooter?? Any problems??
..... wellllllll?
Shot mine today boys i *fucking loved it*
Despite being from the 40's the original MP40 seems to be made to a higher standard of manufacture. That being said, I'm still very happy that ATI is bringing in 9mm MP40s!
The MP40 was actually a cheapened version of the MP38 because the MP38 was a milled receiver and expensive to make. The MP40 was essentially the cheap version with mostly stamped parts to consume less raw materials and speed up production.
Almost all Machine Pistols (MP) or its later brethren sub-machine guns are stamped, they're designed to be produced quickly and cheaply, this is why the US military no longer uses them, last one was the M3. The M3 or known in the military as the grease gun, was a flop! Started production in 1942,issued to tankers some paratroopers, staff and artillery units. Because of its stamped production, using plastic parts in some cases it was prone to literally falling apart when fired because it's an inertia cyclic weapon. But hey, they looked, cool!
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_submachine_gun
I dunno, look at how poor the machining is on the bottom of the upper on the original. Other than the recoil spring assembly, the clone looks higher quality and generally improves on the original while keeping the aesthetics 99% intact.
I got mine and I LOVE it, no issues great shooter, read a lot about things vibrating out no issues, just lock tight the usual things, like screws that hole the black plastic down, put around 200 rnds through it without a cleaning and no failures, the bar that connects the trigger is a bit mushy under the ejection side plastic bit, but Atlantic wall blanks sells a good stainless steel replacement, or if you're feeling frisky you can make your own, all in all great gun, I hope some one makes Bakelite replacements for the black polymer some day!
I saw another video on replacing the trigger bar like the one Atlantic Wall sells. So I decided to make my own I will attach a photo if possible. Not having the oval slot in the front takes a lot of play/sloppiness out of the trigger.
The Germans had a milled version called the mp38, but the mp40 was developed as a cost effective replacement with it's stamped parts.
thanks for the vid and the info! i just bought one at my local gun show,and have had good luck so far! i always wanted one !
Thank you. I bought a gag mp40 at the Tanner gun show yesterday and all the questions I had you showed me thank you:)
What an interesting and informative video - thank you for going into such detail.
It's a historical gun...why does it need to have modern "improvements"? practicality or advantages are unwanted...I would much prefer a 1:1 replica
Cant make a open bolt legally for one.
Cory R Understood, but this is completely different. The disassembly, the safety, the magazine incompadibilty. It doesn't even hold 32 which I thought was a trademark of this gun. The hi-visbility night sights, cheap pot metal...wtf. An abomination I tell you!
Rzr2ffe I know right it’s not a MP-40
German Gun Laws
Should've taken after Poland. The PPSH-43 C is a damn good semi auto representation of the real thing.
I was on a waiting list for one of these back in March with my dealer, but something odd happened where ATI ran out of stock or my dealer got lost on the list or something of a combo of the two. I'm a bit salty about it, because I was going to be cut a good deal on it.
Great video! I got one coming in. Years back while with a WW-II SS reenactment group, one of our members had the real thing and I got the chance to fire it full auto with live rounds, it was a beautiful weapon. The GSG MP4- I'm buying will just be for plinking at the range and not for hunting/home defense as I have several AR's and more various weapons for that purpose.
can you use blanks on this new MP40?
Outstanding review. Very knowledgeable. My GSG MP40 should be in any day now!!
Thanks for watching and thanks for the feedback! I hope you enjoy your GSG MP40!
Thank you for this comparison. I've been pretty set on buying the ATI but never realized just how much different it was from an original. Also now I know ahead of time how to take it apart to clean it
Excellent video sir, very detailed!
I own the GSG MP-40. I haven't had the opportunity to fire it yet, but looking forward to doing so.
Very well done review. Do you know if the bakelite grips and forearm are interchangeable? There are some nice Bakelite repro grips out there which I'd like to use and replace the cheap plastic ones on the GSG
Nice video. Dreaming about getting one.
Thank you - this was very helpful.
Great video and presentation.
Why is there so much hate for the replica? It's $500, not $5000 and certainly not $30,000. It still fires and it's still cool to own! The price is right IMO
Excellent review
The original MP40 system was open bolt action, it can full auto because operate much cooler than closed-bolt designs due to the airflow allowed into the chamber
That sear is basically the same as a ppsh-41 open bolt machine gun. The only purpose of the trigger is to move the stub out of the way for the travel of the bolt! Thanks Chris!
Great video MarksMan....
I appreciate it - thanks for watching!
By the way, no issues with my GSG functions perfectly. Maybe I got one of the good ones.
registration is for squares.
They just got a non restricted status in Canada and our version comes with the stock can't wait to pick one of these up
those things on the front fold out, so can be hooked on a sandbag etc. Military vehicles have swivels where you can set it in, for more controlled fire.
Thanks for the comparison
what is the barrel thread size on the ATI? Is it a standard size or something crazy?
Amazing vid thanks so much!
That is so freaking cool. I'm a big WW2 buff and I just wish I had the money to buy some old firearms. But they cost so stinkin much it's unreal
Great video it's a great gun the company I work for sells it love that it comes in 9mm
I've ran close to 1500 rounds threw mine it's great fun love the gsg mp-40 only jammed once on me so far yeah it's not an exact replica and that is sad but none the less considering it's 650$ vs 20000$ or so for a mp-40 from ww2 I'm extremely happy with it I would recommend this if you don't have alot of money to spend on a real mp-40
Very interesting firearm. I wish having the folding stock was legal. Thank You for the interesting video.
Is it..just fill a atf form 1. 4 weeks later you can install a folding stock..they sell them for it. Im gonna do that when I get mine
They're selling almost the same version here in Germany, except for to folding Stock and the pushpin being a headless screw, also the muzzle looks little different.
Great video
Very interesting!
Thank you. I just received an ATI GSG MP 40 for my birthday. Since I don't have several thousand dollars for an orginal, my wife bought me the ATI. Still scrathes my old weapon itch.
bsibs yea I think they are actually good representations of the original. Similar in alot of ways. Congrats on getting an MP40!
Thanks for "Taking Down" the actual MP-40, I was going to do a similar video. Having paid for a Class 3 MP, I know how stressful that would be for me! I've had the ATI/GSG version since they came out. I'd say they FTF/FTE LESS than the WW2 variant. -Cheers-!
Regulas
The aluminum bar performed 2 functions. First to aid in cooling the barrel and more importantly to prevent the barrel from being pulled out of a firing port when being fired,
thus shooting into the vehicle.
Thanks, good review
Thanks for watching!
2 questions,, can one add the folding stock from an original mp40 or another gsg mp40-22 to the gsg 9mm? can the front barrel muzzle "nut" from the original be put on the 9mm gsg mp40?...great channel u know your guns,,, gotta ask is gsg gonna make a mg34 or fg42?? wouldnt that be kool! i hav the mp44 n mp40 22s they make
Is there a replacement for the gsg mp40's plastic siding?
You can own an open bolt weapon as long it was manufactured before the 1986 NFA (USA) law went into affect (Grandfathered in). Just an FYI.
Yes. All open bolts produced after 1986. They say its too easy to convert into a machine gun.
Matthew Kuhn they’re not banned the ones made from 81 to 86 are considered full auto no matter what making them nfa items and ones made post 86 can only be owned by dealers ones that are semi made before 81 are still considered semi and need no paper work
ATF has no idea of how big of idiots they are.
Now, I silently wait for the ATF to kick down my front door.
They had to have been registered with the ATF before 1986 otherwise they're still illegal.
@@WildernessMedic some weapons made today are open bolt and are not banned, SCAR, FS 2000 and a couple others, it's a cost thing mostly. Plus some weapons today have what's known as a combination bolt, my M1A1 SOCOM comes to mind, last round the bolt will remain open and you can hit the release and it will slam home (i do mean slam with an M1A1!), loading a round, so it's called a combination bolt or as we call them a half bolt!
Anyway, technically no you don't have to register an open bolt unless automatic, technically yes you can own without registering, like most of the NFA or 922r compliant (commonly called the 2nd arms control act, although really the 4th ,...34, 68,86 & 97), they're ambiguous!
Original MP-40 barrels were threaded primarily for BFA's for training purposes.
That's an interesting theory, I haven't thought of that. My thinking was, that since MP40s were primarily made for tank crews, the thread was for portholes, just like on Russian BMPs. I recall, Germans were toying with the concept of periscopic gun adapter for shooting out of the hatch, but the adapters I've seen were primarily for Stg 44.
A stock can be added to the ati but it requires either the barrel to be lengthen or to register as an sbr.
I have the .22 lr version of the ATI. Could you do a video of the .22 lr vs the 9mm?
Great vid....
Just one criticism, keep the hand movements slow and allow for proper focusing of the subject.
For example, Just as the object come into focus, you move it away...very tiring on the eye's to follow through all the movements...slow and deliberate would have made this for me, a excellent vid...thanks and keep up the good work.
I'd love to get one if these, but the exposed recoil spring just kinda kills it. It makes it look cheap or like a BB or airsoft gun. They should have at least blued the spring or telescoped it like the original. Damn, so close in appearance but falls just a bit short for the money.
On the ww2 one I noticed the sling mount is on the left did you get it on the left they were traditionally on the right this is me just being very critical
Very intersting review. My GSG 9mm isn't a real mp40 but is great fun
Just picked one up!
GREAT DEMO!
If I, somehow, put a rifle length barrel on and a stock would that be fine?
I don't know how the NFA works, is the receiver "locked" to being certain things?
Would i need to do paperwork or some shit if I, for some reason, wanted to put a rifle length barrel and stock on the gun?
Well for the reenactors its great. They are cheaper to feed than the open bolts because of fire rates. Collectors yep get a real one. We carry a lot of originals in the field. It's a bad day when you loose a mag. These you can beat up who cares! The only design flaw or feature with the gsg is the charging handle can fall out in the field. Which happened to one of my pards. We had to share one between us. But other than that, blank or live fire mine has been reliable. ATI is working on a folding stock kit. So with a few mods and upgrades it will suffice.
Is the receiver machined from steel ? and how is the barrel retained in the receiver.
I just bought the gsg today
And I can not lock the bolt
It won’t go up into the locking mode
It charges
Any ideas?
It’s brand new not a used one either
Hey there! A question, is the bakelite parts from an Original MP40 are fitting on the GSG one? If it does, Could you make a vid of that because I wish to change the plastic fore and pistol grips.
They are not interchangeable
Could you still put a stock on the GSG version? Would that be considered illegal to do?
Not as long you have the SBR STAMP , from the feds cost around $200 👍🏻🇺🇲 and a background check, then the folding stock is yours.
I would love to have that gun
I am planning on getting one a MP40 ,, I have a AR-15 & a KEL-TEC that shoots 9mm now add another to my collection a totally cool looking gun.
Update I have gotten my MP40. All I need is the SBR stamp from the Fed's ( ATF), for my folding stock which costs $200 and a background check , and all set I have gotten the sling for it , totally awesome I think my AR-15 will be jealous 😅🤣🤭 🇺🇲👍🏻
I wonder if you can make a binary trigger for it and a folding pistol brace?
this
I'm calling the Gestapo
I have a question of you can modify the modern mp40 to fire like machine gun?
Only Germans can make a weapon so close to the original yet make it completely non interchangeable. That's skill these may be cheap replicas but to make it look so close is a big win in my book . I bought one and I can wait to fire the one I ordered . Is the charging handle in the original removable
Exactly an inexpensive open bolt design worth 20,000 nowadays, compared to a current closed bolt design for 500$, please take my money.
Are the original bakelite parts transferable to the gsg or no?
morning buddy . very interesting . old smg are a lots of fun . ATB you an yours
Thanks for watching, Andy!
stealth Andy .tr
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Thanks for the vodeo... totally gonna get one of these ati mp40s.. cant afford a 20k$ original they look close enough to me lol
What I wonder is that the sling ring is on the left side of the ww2 mp 40. Usually the ring was on the right side. Did the germans produced different versions?
Lots of hate here but hell I think the GSG holds up great! Gives a lot of people a chance to have a great historic replica that they'd otherwise never be able to own
VERY cool!
Fellow *hoosier* great video!
Thank you and thanks for watching!!
Превосходный обзор. Лайк! В России таких чудесных изделий даже на чердаках осталось немного...
Excellent overview. Like! In Russia, there are not many such wonderful products even "in attics"...
buy a replica mp40 for the stock
That makes you a felon. Even owning both the gun and the stock, without even putting it on, is a felony, unless you get a tax stamp first.
Превосходное изделие...это точно,. У меня отец воевал с немцами ...но я все равно обожаю эту оружию,...в нем что то карм есть,...
Where i can to by gsg version?
hmm... so the mp40 was
the original "tupperware" gun??
bakelite is so named bcs of its initial use
for cooking pot handles correct? is the replica
a straight blowback action then since mass
was in no way limited w/ the 8-lb heft?
Shopping time!
How much would the original WWII MP40 sell for?
Where buy?
Just subscribed great video wish i could have a real one ! yours looks great ! got a gsg coming !
frank mcgraw thanks for watching and for subbing! I think you will really enjoy your GSG - it is a great representation of an original.
Have wanted one since i was 7 yrs old when i watched my first ww2 movie i'm 55 now thought about the one in 22 lr but hated what was hanging off the front of the barrel i do have the gsg stg 44 & the mp 5 had no problems with either me & my 2 sons love them ! we can't wait to get the mp 40 !
Yeah that was great bud.👍
Opens the box and checks the gun to see if it’s loaded. Like damn do they ship loaded guns lol
Does anyone know why the gsg mags only hold 25 rounds instead of 32 since the mags have the same dimensions
They had a bunch of ww2 reproductions at my local gun show. They all looked and felt like the real deal, the only issue is they were all 22's
Our guns laws are ridiculous, it legal to have a bump fire stock turning your SKS into full automatic but not a swing out metal stock for your semi-automatic GSG MP40.
would you rather be the other way?
Wym? Its legal to sbr it.
oof that didn't age well
So the ATI is really a GSG German Sporting Guns, ATI only being the Importer and not the manufacturer, right?
today the atf lost banning braces or stocks for pistols like the mp40 from gsg. will they arrive in the usa now with the brace?
Anyone know if the origional strap works with the new MP40?
I really wanna get a gsg mp40
More likely the differences such as mag sizes and charging handle differences were due to ATF requirements. We saw this with the Kahr semi reproduction of the Thompson 1928 where differences in tolerances and bolt design would make it difficult to interchange parts with the original full auto version.
The hammer will come up even when the lower is not connected, he may have had the safety on.
Awesome
anyone know if there is a binary trigger you could buy for it
Why isn't the gsg mp40 a 9mm carbine instead ?
Where can I buy it
Isn't the bar made from Zn, not Al?
I'm sorry But the historical Inaccuracy of the shortness of the charging slot with the charging handle kinda pisses me off maybe I'm missing.g something as why they did that?
Bakelite is not exactly the most toughest plastic if anything it was more on the brittle side, the reason the MP40s Bakelite was durable was because it was think, other things like the butter dish would snap and crumble, I know from experience lol
Wish ati would make a sten