45170 is the TCDD running number. If the locomotive went straight to the War Dept it may have never carried anything but the WD number and the 45170 allocated by the Turkish Railways. If they return the locomotive to steam I really hope that the thing would be kept with the Turkish alterations, including the cow-catchers.
2 Years on and we are only £3000 to find to complete the purchase of this Glasgow built locomotive. Cosmetic overhaul progressing well and the overhaul proper will start 2017
It has a very American look to it with that cowcatcher, airpump next to the smokebox and (German style?) smokebox door. Would indeed be good to keep it that way, as it operated for less than a year probably in the UK before being sent to Turkey.
Will it be resored and kept as an example of english exports to Turkey or will it be returned to a true 8F ? Should restore it how it is and keep a peice of the export heratage alive!
I do hope that the B&K have the courage to keep 45170 as if it had been out-shopped by TCDD, keeping the cowcatchers. They are a big part of the locomotive's appearance as is the style of smokebox. I can understand the need to change things where it is necessary to meet regulations on brakes. Can the locomotive be dual-braked?? You will need to add steam-heat if it was not there already.
NJPurling, unfortunately (well you might have heard by now) she us being restored to her works condition e.g. no cowchaters and war department livery. Also the smokebox door is from a German locomotive, she had her familiar stainer door, which a new one is being made for her 😊
What's the reason for the jet washing at the end? I'd have thought that doing so would remove any remaining paint and therefore any last protection from the elements?
One day? this derelict steam locomotive will be restored, re painted, and run under It's own steam power, thanks to all the volunteers who restore steam locomotives on the bluebell etc
Anna, the number 45170 is a Turkish railways number. The number is correct. The Black 5, 45170 was withdrawn in 1964 and scrapped at Shipbreaking Industries Ltd, Faslane. Us scrapping enthusiasts trump the locospotters with our knowledge of steam loco scrapping!
The loco has a boiler in excllent condition with a new firebox. The stays look like they were made yesterday! Mechanically all there but will need new brasses etc. new buffer beam and cladding etc., all new cladding and new copper pipework etc. tyres will take a turn. Usual overhaul stuff! Tender is in remakabe condition and will need new tyres and the usual overhaul stuff. All do able for a fraction of a new buid!
Surely this outdated loco should have been cut for scrap years ago, you'd be surprised. I would cut that, you'd be surprised how much steel and copper - many £10.000
If you are talking about the first two wheels as they come off the truck bed, they just aren't touching the rails there. As soon as they touch the rails again they turn.
45170 is the TCDD running number. If the locomotive went straight to the War Dept it may have never carried anything but the WD number and the 45170 allocated by the Turkish Railways.
If they return the locomotive to steam I really hope that the thing would be kept with the Turkish alterations, including the cow-catchers.
Great to see it in Bo'ness, and did you see the SIZE of that smile on Marks face!!
Wow Good Work … Peter W Australia
Thank you for your comment Joshua
2 Years on and we are only £3000 to find to complete the purchase of this Glasgow built locomotive. Cosmetic overhaul progressing well and the overhaul proper will start 2017
It has a very American look to it with that cowcatcher, airpump next to the smokebox and (German style?) smokebox door.
Would indeed be good to keep it that way, as it operated for less than a year probably in the UK before being sent to Turkey.
Thee is another 8f on display that has a headlight, wonder if this one had one long ago as well?
Well done to all involved.
At last our own BIG BOY,let us name it after one of the very many stalwarts who give us the railway scene we have today at BO* NESS . WILLIE MASON .
Will it be resored and kept as an example of english exports to Turkey or will it be returned to a true 8F ?
Should restore it how it is and keep a peice of the export heratage alive!
good job
Good video!
Is this one of the two locos in the documentary that were brought back from Turkey?
recovery is very difficult. I see that in addition to the railways, men are also vintage
Built in Saint Rollox works Springburn Glasgow
Built in Hydepark works of the NBL in Springburn
number 45170 was a black 5 4-6-0 , not a 2-8-0 8F known to us loco spotters has a black 8
wow a Turkish 8F
I do hope that the B&K have the courage to keep 45170 as if it had been out-shopped by TCDD, keeping the cowcatchers. They are a big part of the locomotive's appearance as is the style of smokebox. I can understand the need to change things where it is necessary to meet regulations on brakes. Can the locomotive be dual-braked?? You will need to add steam-heat if it was not there already.
NJPurling, unfortunately (well you might have heard by now) she us being restored to her works condition e.g. no cowchaters and war department livery.
Also the smokebox door is from a German locomotive, she had her familiar stainer door, which a new one is being made for her 😊
What's the reason for the jet washing at the end? I'd have thought that doing so would remove any remaining paint and therefore any last protection from the elements?
Its a steam jet washer it removes greece and oil and paint and things
Someone has their work cut out for them.
One day? this derelict steam locomotive will be restored, re painted, and run under It's own steam power, thanks to all the volunteers who restore steam locomotives on the bluebell etc
Great things happening at Bo'ness, do you intend to change it to a BR 8F or retain it with Turkish details?
Thank you Robert for your comment I think it would be BR 8F.
someone has the number wrong 8f were 48170 more like
Anna, the number 45170 is a Turkish railways number. The number is correct.
The Black 5, 45170 was withdrawn in 1964 and scrapped at Shipbreaking Industries Ltd, Faslane.
Us scrapping enthusiasts trump the locospotters with our knowledge of steam loco scrapping!
dang, the wheels can barley spin on it, look at them skid!
It will take 15-20 years and I excess of 3 million pounds to return it to steam. Better off building new one from scratch
The loco has a boiler in excllent condition with a new firebox. The stays look like they were made yesterday! Mechanically all there but will need new brasses etc. new buffer beam and cladding etc., all new cladding and new copper pipework etc. tyres will take a turn. Usual overhaul stuff! Tender is in remakabe condition and will need new tyres and the usual overhaul stuff. All do able for a fraction of a new buid!
Surely this outdated loco should have been cut for scrap years ago, you'd be surprised. I would cut that, you'd be surprised how much steel and copper - many £10.000
Tosser.
If you are talking about the first two wheels as they come off the truck bed, they just aren't touching the rails there. As soon as they touch the rails again they turn.