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Hotel Transylvania is still going.. with one more installment releasing in JANUARY for some reason. It's Hotel Transylvania 4: Transformania! Is it gonna be a surprise refreshing hit? Or will it be just the same as the other sequels, a visual delight doused in shallow, pointless and watered down writing. A saturday morning cartoon rehashing the same tropes we've all seen hundreds of times before. You know the answer. This is the TERRIBLE Hotel Transylvania 4: Transformania...
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Please do horrid henry the movie
Who could possibly emphasize more on the âTERRIBLEâ about the final to the Hotel Transylvania franchise (unless somehow we get a fifth movie and it makes such an overrated (at least back in the 2010s before it was only remembered as a âHaha Jonathan/Iâll suck your d- I mean bloodâ meme from Dracula himself) with the fourth movie? Seriously, THIS is the movie that gave us new appreciation for movies we didnât even care for, like its predecessors!
If Johnny wanted to become a monster......why didn't he just ask Mavis to bite him?? I doubt she would have a problem turning him so that her husband doesn't die due to old age before their vampire kid even starts school.
HEY YOU CANT COME IN HERE WITH LOGIC THATS NOT THE WAY OF THIS STUDIO NO LOGIC AROUND NOSIREE
True, the previous movies kind of implied that in this Universe people canât be turned into monsters, they are born this way, but then this one ruined this head-canon with the âzombie being turned into a human and then turned back into a zombie after being bittenâ joke, we actually see a monster transforming a human into a monster by biting him, and by the way he reacted I donât think he was just a guy who died and came back as a zombie, I think he was a human who was transformed into a zombie back then. So we see for a fact that humans can be turned into certain monsters through biting
Dennis is Half-Human and Half-Vampire which means He's lifespan is longer then human but shorter then "pure" vampire.
@@wyslanniknewworldorder9525 that may be the case in something like blade but i don't remember these movies ever referring to a "half vampire"
Basically:
"Johnny Loughran- How you gonna make decisions about the FUTURE... when you ain't gonna BE here!?" - Chris Rock, I think.
Omg they literally forgot that vampires couldn't be hypnotized-- so Dennis can't even BE hypnotized. That literally was established in the second movie LMAO
The movies are all over the place
Dennis still has his human side.
And when he froze time in that movie, Mavis was frozen as well, but not in this one
@@aurorawizard7045 maybe she was just humoring him by standing really still
What do you expect when a franchise keeps going for too long? You eventually forget your own rules you initially set up in your series.
Dracula wasnât scared to give Johnny the hotel because heâs human since that was said and done in the 1st movie, it was because Johnnyâs plans for the hotel were almost offensive to Dracula. The hotel was built immediately after the wifeâs passing and designed to protect monsters and it just has so much history and you can tell heâs too emotionally invested in it to just give it to a young hippy kid who plans on essentially changing everything about it.
Fiiiinally
I mean and to be fair Johnny made changes to the hotel in the second movie
I feel like this would've been a really good plotpoint if the movie actually acknowledged it, but the way they wrote it makes it feel like its just a re-do of the theme of the first movie. They shouldve focused on dracs attachment to the hotel itself more than how uncomfortable he is with the idea of johnny taking over, i think
I hate that they basically dropped Draculas serious backstory after the first part and doubled down on cheap laughs.
@@pinksamm yeah the ending in Transformania was supposed to be sequel bait but because of the whole Sony and Disney+ deal back in 2021 itâs unlikely that Disney will distribute more Hotel Transylvania and more Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs content in the future
Letâs be honest: these movies shouldâve ended at the second one
you got a point but to be completely honest they should've not made a 2nd one altogether
@@TheRegularSalmon all of them are fucking worse than the Amazing Spider Man movies with Andrew Garfield
@@TheRegularSalmonmaybe. But it was still somewhat decent. The third one was pretty bad
@@bengilhooly3616 I mean the 2nd one was good I have to give credit for that but I just didnât think a sequel was necessary
@@TheRegularSalmon agree
Also I got to say from the trailers, I thought the whole reason Johnny wanted to become a monster was that he wanted to be able to live for hundreds of years with his wife and kid. Could have been a more interesting plot if Drac was on board with Johnny wanting to become a monster. Not because an issue he has against humans running his hotel, but more because Drac knows what it felt like when you lose someone in your life and he didn't want his daughter/grandson to go through that.
That wouldâve made for such a better movie! And instead of Dracula having to go through development AGAIN, this time we could have gotten it from Mavis, who refuses to hear Johnny out in the beginning because heâs âperfect just the way he isâ until he finally puts his foot down in the campfire scene and explains he doesnât want to be left behind while Mavis gets who knows how many zings in the future now that we know itâs NOT a once in a lifetime occurrence. Mavis would understand where Johnnyâs coming from and be fully on board with Johnny becoming a monster when she realizes the âwhatâ doesnât change the âwhoâ, which I think wouldâve expanded on the franchiseâs core theme beautifully.
this plot is FAR better than what we got đ funny how the audience manages to write a better plot than the movie writers đ§ââïžitâs not even that difficult to write yet they chose to make this lazy cashgrab
Yeah, like at this point, I'm genuinely surprised that wasn't what the focus was on because there is a lot of strong thematic elements to that permise because leaning into the whole concept of Humans lifespans are like Mayflies compared to monsters is always a good material for a film and I think it would be a good way to give a sense of finality to the films.
I literally never saw a single trailer for this. I just discovered this movie even existed today.
This could legit be the best HT movie if they did it correctly
Dracula has devolved from a funny and sometimes entertaining main character to just Squidward suffering under the Shenanigans of the others.
Squidward plays TF2 right now and collect the "Donairs"!
I guess that makes Johnny SpongeBob ⊠er, make that Season 6 SpongeBob because at least pre-Season 6 SpongeBob had some moments of maturity.
@@hunterolaughlin You got my comment straight on point
Dracula đ€ Squidward
That makes it more realistic in my opinion
I think Hotel Transylvania went the same way the Ice Age franchise did. Adding too many characters and having a less important, but more stupid plot, forgetting things that were established in previous movies, etc.
I prefer the Ice Age movies.
@@bighand1530 Yeah for all its flaws Ice age was at the very least more bearable than the Hotel Transylvania series as a whole imo
@@kingofravens215
Yup. While the Ice Age franchise went in full decline after the third film, at least I got chuckles here and there.
Hotel Transilvania went downhill very quick with its follow ups tho. Oof
@@alejandrovelez6358 shouldnât Hotel Transylvania have a 5th one since Toy Story 5 is getting another sequel
Toy Story's going that way too.
The worst part is when Mavis tells Drac this was all his fault, when she was the one choosing to eavesdrop on Drac mentioning retirement, exciting Johnny to make Drac panic, and then none of this would have happened if she had just not told Johnny this obvious surprise.
I think that even though Werke supposed to like her as a person, she has what Iâm sure a lot of us would like to call âpretty privilegeâ.
In the original, she was like any other stereotypically fictional representation of teenage women (re: the ones in teen sitcoms (including but not limited to the ones in Wizards of Waverly Place like Alex Russo (also played by Selena Gomez whom this character might just be the best of the worst because while sheâs often out of character, she has her moments like she can be funny with her playful sarcasm) and especially her (ex-)boyfriend Mason and brothers Justin & Max), which are even worse.)
In the sequel, she has as much (or even less if thatâs possible) personality than in the first movie even with her cartoonish animation that every other Hotel Transylvania character has (Iâm here for cartoony animation, but not when itâs done to pander to the kiddies like in Nicktoons)
In Summer Vacation, she refused to protect her son Dennis from (who could be if more Hotel Transylvania sequels are even happening) her future daughter-in-law Winnie taking ânoâ as âyesâ as if it were funny when a girl did that to a guy instead of vice versa (then again, everyone else was like that, even the âreformedâ Abraham Van Helsing)
In Hotel Transylvania 4, she was even worse than ever before because Aurora Wizard said it bestâŠ
@@kieranstark7213 Thanks
@@kieranstark7213 Mavis was an interesting character in the first one because she was a kid and she had a zing for Johnny. The sequel made her like her dad; an overprotective parent. Which makes sense for her because she didnât want Dennis to get hurt and wanted him to have a normal childhood in California. The third one had her suspicious of Ericka because Dracula was so enamored on her, which also makes sense because she loves and cares about her dad.
The fourth one ruined her character and reduced her to a âbut dad I love him!â type teenage girl (which sheâs now a full grown WOMAN) so Dracula can be at fault
I STOPPED watching after they said it was Drac's fault! It made me sooooo mad! She was the one who chose to listen in on a PRIVATE conversation, and then spread that private information to Johnny. Johnny decided to jump on Drac before he announced anything or made it official. Already having plans to change his beautiful hotel! Like he just heard he might get half ownership, and he immediately wants to redo everything?!
"It'S nOt AbOuT tHe HoTeL, iT's AbOuT fAmIly" Well, Mavis and Johnny sure don't act like it or even talk about it.
If my in-law heard I was going to give them something so dear to my heart and super sentimental, and their immediate thoughts are to CHANGE IT!!?? I'd be hesitant to give it away after that as well!
Honestly idk if I even want to finish the movie. It really made me mad when Mavis blamed Drac!! It's like they were saying, "You made me do this!" Which is freaking abusive or at least borderline abusive!
This movie has no soul. đ
@@KayKay114 What's interesting is that they kept the exterior of the hotel the exact same, but just changed the inside. Please tell me you're ok with that spoiler.
Itâs a shame honestly because Brian Hull is very talented when it comes to voice impressions and he was so excited to play Dracula because this was his first time doing voice acting for a movie... He deserves better than just being a replacement for Adam Sandler.
Yes, he's such a funny guy. He deserves far better than this.
Not his first voice role in a movie but still..
What sucks is that, because Brian isn't a celebrity, he's billed after Selena Gomez and Andy Samberg despite literally voicing the main character.
@@cintronproductions9430
Yeah... That's Hollywood sometimes.đ
@@cintronproductions9430 To me, heâs a celebrity because he is famous on the Internet. He really needs a better voice roll though.
The only thing I know about this mess is that everyone was pissed when the invisible man didnât end up looking like a Tumblr Sexyman
If only they did that with Mavis and (fully) with Frank (as a human).
And they disregarded previous movieâs logic when it comes to his appearance such as clothing that he wore in previous movies wouldnât be possible w/ this design
HE SHOULDVE BEEN A CUTE TWINK THEY RUINED HIM
Yeah it was actually a thing like people took a few screenshots from the original first and second movie with him wearing clothing and bowties etc and literally none of it fits with the character design they made for him in the 4 movie. It's like they just made a randommodel without trying to at least be realistic with the things they already had shown
@@lordiedams348 exactly
Anyone else remember that in the posters promoting the movie, Mavis was in the back with a hooded cloak and a glowing scepter, like a druid or some kind of magical explorer? I was hoping there would be some sort of B plot where maybe SHE would venture to find the crystal, then maybe Drac and Johnny stay behind at the hotel and hijinks ensue. Finally give her an important role in the plot??
Nah, let's just have Drac lie to her AGAIN (because he STILL doesn't see his daughter as anything but a child) and/or just be the hot supportive wife to the obnoxious man-baby. No characterization for this woman! It's insulting honestly.
Couldnât have said it better myself.
In fact, I originally had that kind of anticipation for the fourth HT movie (that either it would go down the adventure route, and it would especially be amazing if it were up to the ranks of Super Mario Galaxy⊠or at least be a moderate improvement over the third one).
Mavis needs to have a plot outside of being Drac's daughter, Johnny's wife, or Dennis' mom.
The plot lines of the HT movies
1-drac is racist towards humans
2-drac is racist towards humans
3-drac is trying to get b-tches
4-drac is racist to humans
Ah yes, verry diverse plot lines
1 - Drac is SCARED of the humans who KILLED HIS WIFE.
2 - Drac wants his son to be a vampire and is scared that human genetics are dominant
3 - Cruise nonsense??? New gf?!?!
4 - Drac is human đ
Lol I was dieing laughing
4 drac is a racist to human while being human
@@lily-if8ir 4, he's still racist, and is now just a hypocrite
@@hodleyvinch3802I mean considering that humans killed his wife no wonder.
Remember when Johnny was a likable character, I remember
His character got goofier as the series progressed
@@bighand1530 It says a lot that his own young son who isn't even a preteen yet is far more mature than him.
To be honest, I donât mind Johnny? I think they definitely should have kept him toned down, but I still like him. I guess itâs just because I relate to him and see myself in him, but yeah.
He had that sort of âwise Potheadâ energy in the first one, and I really liked it
I remember too. Wish we got the silly but lovable Johnny again
You know it's bad when even Adam Sandler doesn't show up for it.
Wow
And he was in Eight Crazy Nights for goodness sakes.
Itâs like when Rob Schneider (another Eight Crazy Nights/Happy Madison actor) refused to play Norm because an already horrendous movie got sequels (the second (and second and a half) one would have to be the worst one and quite possibly the worst animated feature since Eight Crazy Nights (the only thing going for it is that it has good animation. In fact, as Nostalgia Critic (as much as I hate him) said it best, âitâs insultingly good!â), The Drawn Together Movie, Strange Magic, Little Princess School (even by mockbuster standards), Space Chimps 2, the Jimmy ScreamerClauz duology (Where the Dead Go to Die and Where Black Birds Fly), Hotel Transylvania 4, Doogal, A Foxâs Tale, Lifeâs a Jungle: Africaâs Most Wanted, Elf Bowling: The Movie, Sir Billi, Happily NâEver After 1 & 2, Mars Needs Moms, Kiara the Brave, The Ice Age Adventures of Buck Wild (though except for Ice Age 1 & 3, the other ones are also very weak), Tentacolino, and Lightyear combined)
@@kieranstark7213 Nice list of notoriously bad movies. I recognize most of them.
The even worse part is that this didnât even feel like an ending to a series!âčïž
Well at least the dude who voiced Drac in this movie managed to sound like Adam Sandlerâs Drac voice! So that was impressiveđ
And the ending where mavis and Johnny kept the hotel was sequel baiting
Yeah
@@bighand1530 Sony also made a huge multi year deal with Disney+
@@Mariofanaticanimations When was this?
@@bighand1530 in April of 2021
I really liked the first Hotel Transylvania movie. It had heart, stylized characters and I found the 'zinging only once' concept quite adorable. So when they made the third one and Dracula "re-zinged" with Erica I was like oh ... And then this film had so much happen but it meant nothing. I struggled to get through it. I was so bored. Even my little niece and nephew who love the original movie couldn't bother to see this movie again.
Zinging only once kinda implied that you can only love once, which wasnât a great message. Itâs honestly for the best that they changed it
@@jeffreyquinde6707 I'm just a sucker for soulmate tropes I guess. I would've liked to learn more about his first wife. I see where you are coming from though.
@@jeffreyquinde6707 Yeah, but then they canonically admitted that Mavis didn't have to be stuck with Johnny.
@@jeffreyquinde6707 yeah, especially considering the fact that drac's first wife died and the implications of that, if they had kept the "you only zing once" rule would that imply he just has to be alone forever? cause that'd kinda suck lmao
I guess you can only zing once whilst that other person is still alive then...?
In the 1st Hotel Transylvania, they look humanoid, but in this 4th movie, they look more cartoony than ever!
Facts
Example of this is with dracula eyes they looked normal size in the first film but they get more bigger and cartooney with each sequel
I kinda like the more cartoony eyes and expressions.
Exactly! I think in general they just changed the characters to be overexaggerated cartoons
Agreed. That's the main reason I refuse to watch this movie, it's just so unbearable to look at! The animation is WAY too damn cartoony and over-exaggerated.
Not only was it terrible, it was unnecessary. Plus they ruined my boy Johnny.
This franchise shouldnât exist because the ending in the last hour was sequel baiting like the Amazing Spider Man 2 with sinister six setup and Lightyear where Zurg survives
@@Mariofanaticanimations i think Lightyear would be more like a movie inside the toy story universe? Because nothing would make sense. Zurg died as that one toy, not like in a show.. right?
Just like there are many Buzz, there are many Zurgs... as toys
@@niko5008 Iâm talking about the James Brolin lifeless Zurg that survived in space
@@Mariofanaticanimations hm did i miss any movie/show? Who is him exactly?
Yeah this movie was completely unnecessary. Or rather this plot was.
Ya know what would had made a better plot? Addressing the elephant in the room. Mavis is immortal, Johnny is mortal. How about exploring the fact that there's a good chance that she'll outlive him by centuries unless he does something? Make that the reason he wants to become a monster or possibly a vampire? The rest of the movie writes itself!
That would be too dark for a wacky childish series like this though. If we are talking realistically.
@@myaedelman I mean, We literally had a very good Puss in Boots film last year that addresses the whole coming to terms with ones own mortality so its not like children can't handle this sort of subject matter.
â@@KhaosAdmiral well to be completely fair puss in boots comes in a year later, but yeah we need more "Realism" in a movie targeted for kids :/
This movie was such a disappointment. The original Hotel Transylvania was meant to be a fun love letter to the Universal Monsterverse with genuine comedy and heart. Here, any attempt at heart is immediately shot down in favor of completely half-assed comedy, usually involving Dracula's pain. On top of that, it once again sticks to the formula of everything being Dracula's fault. This movie absolutely did not need to exist. Also, at 13:49 why didn't you end up using that as your thumbnail?
I think it could've been better if Hotel Transylvania should give Jonathan some character development. After all, Jonathan was named after Jonathan Harker aka the protagonist of the Dracula novel.
Ngl, for all the childish characters (not just their personalities which is especially evident because they were assassinated in the fourth movie) the Hotel Transylvania franchise came up with, Mavis is actually really attractive (she is Cartoon Selena Gomez after all) which explains the memes of her being THICC (which can be found in porn more than the official franchise) which includes but isnât limited to âHaha Jonathan, you are banging my daughter!â.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 THAT! Had it been in the right hands by being a cartoonish tribute to Universal Monsters, the Hotel Transylvania franchise was so close to being a love-letter not only in concept, but also in execution⊠but then came Jonathan to boost up the child-pandering the movies (especially Transformania) would be fatigued with!
this happens pretty much every time a popular kids movie is popular, they milk it dry and suck all the heart out of it
well its not worse than velma
This movie really destroyed a franchise, I loved the drama that floated around the idea of a hotel literally meant to hide monsters from humans, but this just made it so the human world flooded into it and destroyed (literally destroyed) everything Drac worked to make for his deceased wife, and he doesn't care because HAPPY ENDING WOO HOO!
I'm sad now
Society.
I dreamed about the fifth part today, where Dracula had an existential crisis, and Mavis was humiliated by two teenagers, spitting in her hair. Then Dracula beat one of them
Also, while he was having an existential crisis, he turned into a rubber blob, and several girls built a cult around him.
Wow. That sounds better than this entire 4 movie
No! Donât say that! I want this franchise to be dead already.
I got no words except for what the fuck?
Funniest thing Iâve seen today
I love how human Dracula is literally just Adam Sandler.
Still trying to get that free movie vacation.
Actually. That's not Adam. That's Brian Hull who sometimes does Drac in promotional things.
@@Tailslover2002 Heâs talking about how human-Dracâs design LOOKS like Adam Sandler
The art style gets more emotive and cartoony and overwhelming further the movies go on
literally what i was thinking. i really liked the style of the first movie. not sure why they got so cartoony ish. it just hurts my eyes lmao
To compensate for how it's becoming more underwhelming emotionally for the viewers probably
The style got so distractingly different when Dazz kept cutting to the airplane scene from the first one too
The only thing I learned from the Hotel Transylvania franchise was don't shelter your kid or they'll marry the first loser they meet.
Eh, Drac knows Johnny will be dead in 70 years (probably even sooner with the way they carry on) and he'll have Mavis and a grandson (to mold in his image) for forever. Wait, did I just start a Dark!Drac Hotel Transylvania fanfic? Oh no.
Oh, I hated this movie for many reasons, but, one of them was that they basically mocked one of the most asked question and scenarios in this movie. Which was Johnny's mortality and the fact that at this point he should be considerably older appareance wise than Mavis, due to how little to none the vampires age. The movie could've been even worth quite a lot if they focused the whole movie on that point, and how they deal with it. Will they turn him into a Ghoul, or a vampire? A movie that touched more adult themes of not only trust, but mortality as well as what are you willing to sacrifice for love.
Even worse, one of the things I hated the most about this series of movies, was how Mavis was the only character that was permitted to mature. While Dracula (let's be real, every new movie felt like he barely matured at all, and they all repeated the same lesson of him trusting others, just focused on new targets) Johnny apparently seemed to mature a little by the end of the first movie... then, that was show to not be the case in the second, even the third one, and dear Lord, by the fourth he didn't mature or evolve, he has completely and utterly devolved into a more childish, whinnier and even entitled man.
That, most of all, was what killed this franchise for me, their unwillingness to let the characters age, to deal with serious problems and situations tastefully like they did in the first one... Yes, the goofyness and cartoonish antics were entertaining, and there is a good joke here and there, but the abuse of that factor make said factors annoying rather than endearing.
Excellent analysis. I agree that only the first movie was great overall.
Would've been a perfect ending if Dracula decided to simply stay human. He could retire and grow old with his wife, he could also begin traveling with her and experience the sun which he actually seemed kinda fond of as the movie progressed, it would have been a perfect reason for him to finally rest after thousands of years running the hotel, I can't stress enough how much it disappointed me when they didn't go that route.
I 100% assumed that's where the story was going. Imagine my shock when potential TV show $$ trumped all.
Iâm still disappointed that they didnât keep the titular hotel destroyed as a nice way of ending the franchise and as a full completion of Dracâs arc throughout the films from going from hating humans to accepting one as his son-in-law and even marrying one. Since the hotel represents Draculaâs form of escape from humans as well as a part of his prejudice and we see it slowly change with Dracâs view of humans by letting them in, it makes sense to see its destruction as a way for Drac to no longer hide from humans since their society has changed and been more accepting of monsters and continuing the ideas built on from the previous sequels of monsters and humans beginning to coexist together. But thatâs just too smart for this movie. I honestly prefer my idea for a satisfying conclusion than the one the final film went with.
Hey do you find Gamer87 Animation to be troll as all he kept talking about with Sony Disney deal this and kept demanding for another HT movie?
And then the hotel got rebuild to something else, showing the change of perspective drac had.
The idea of the hotel being different inside bit the same outside is to contrast the marshmallow context
One thing has always left me confused after this movie was how did Dennis get hypnotized when heâs a vampire? In the second movie, when Dracula tries to hypnotize the counselor and he says âIâm a vampire? I canât be hypnotizedâ so obviously vampires canât hypnotize other vampires yet the director of this movie just forgot about that and decided âYeah letâs have Dennis and that wolf kid be hypnotized and forget everything they told us in the second filmâ
Winnie can be hypnotized easily, but Dennis on the other hand shouldnât be. He should be immune.
Ikr this confusing
The ONLY thing I could think of is that Dennis is a toddler or very young child so he hasn't developed the technique of hypnosis and resisting hypnosis.
â@@alice88waOh no, it doesn't matter what age he is. He's a fully developed vampire according to the 2nd film. Writers were just too lazy to research it
If Johnny wanted to be a monster and live with his wife, WHY didn't he asked her to turn him into a vampire? It's easy to do and could solve his problem as well as making him happy. I guess the young adult is too excited about the hotel and forgot about this obvious solution. He's kind but not very smart đ
I didn't care much about the '' Johnny is a crazy monster '' plot. He never said something funny, didn't care about Drac's reactions to his new body and annoyed him more than in the first movie. He was more a nuisance than helping his friend. Wheter he's a monster or not, this character is not funny.
Ya know whatÂŽs funny? This movie was nominated for Kids Choice Awards, while Puss in Boots 2 (which is superior in pretty much every way) wasnÂŽt.
I feel like this movie could've worked if it was instead about Johnny realising that Mavis, Drac and the others were going to outlive him due to him being human, and not wanting that to happen and potentially have Mavis, Drac and their kid feel guilty he decides to become a monster where one of two things happens
1. He becomes completely feral and the others need to find a way to bring him back to his senses
or 2. It's more like Lilo and Stitch 2 where at first Johnny seems fine as a monster but as it goes on its clear that the transformation is unstable causing him to go berserk randomly and they need to turn him back before he hurts someone
whichever one you prefer not only would it be more of a finale, it could've lead to some emotional moments similar to the first film, like imagine a scene where Mavis struggles with the fact that she and their kid are gonna outlive Johnny or if Drac sympathizes with Johnny cause he understand what is like to loose your partner or if there was a moment when Johnny in his berserk mode accidently hurts one of the characters (Either Mavis or Drac) and when he snaps out of it he's horrified what he did. This movie could've been on par or even better then the original
But instead we got a soulless, boring cash grab that turns Johnny into the most annoying character and makes Drac into the Squidward of the series where it loves to torture him and make it out like he's the bad guy for no reason
Those ideas are excellent. I would add to keep human Drac and having the movie end with Drac deciding to STAY a human. He wants to retire, get old with his new lady and eventually die (frankly the Van Helsing would have made a perfect foil there as someone slowly trading in their humanity to live forever). Have Johnny stay a monster and Drac can retire in peace knowing his hotel is still a Hotel by and for Monsters. Boom, set up for a TV show and a decent closing to the series.
One thing that i wish they kept in all 4 of the movies, is the more realistic style there was present in the first movie. Sure, the first one was also cartoony, but not in an extremely exaggerated way that the other 3 movies were. When it comes to 3D animated movies, i like it when itâs sort of realistic, but still keeps some of the cartoonish vibes
Here's the thing though. Drac doesn't need to give the hotel over to Johnny since it's his hotel. And Johnny isn't exactly... the best choice for a hotel owner, imo, anyway. Mavis, I could kinda' see... right up until this movie. But Johnny? Maybe like a tour guide through the monster world for humans, but... so this whole thing is frustrating.
Also, Mavis, that stupid hotel was in part built for you.
Honestly, Drac's torment is really quite undeserved here and so is this movie. This movie doesn't deserve to exist. So let's pretend it doesn't.
Something I never really noticed until this movie was the style difference between the first movie and the sequels. We went from this nice cartoony realism that kept the characters grounded and real to this... cartoony basic kids movie style. It's really a shame because I love how the original movie's style and story went and as much as I can put on one of the sequels and just turn off my brain to laugh at the bad and dumb humor, I can't overlook the style change and I dont think it was a good change.
The fact I could remember the third movie happened, but I completely forgot this movie existed
The story for this feels more like a midquel than a follow up to the third film.
It feels like a 30 minute episode of a cartoon. Actualy it feels like a scrapped pilot.
A mad scientist living the basement, a device that can make monsters and the structure of the movie feel like this was an episode from a Tv show that got turned into a movie after they realised the series is over.
Is anyone going to talk about how blobby turned into a jello mold even though it was a turn monsters into humans ray and not a âremove magicâ ray?
If Frankenstein's monster was shot with a human ray, wouldn't that kind of just turn him back into the dead human parts he was made up of? Would THOSE be somewhat alive?
That.. that would have been incredible.
this felt a lot like someone's fanfic got mixed in with the actual script
I hate how Johnny still looks and act young, I mean he's now a father and lives in the hotel for years . He should look old now (like in 30s) AND MATURE
30's isn't even young and people that age still act young
@@yulee3266 Not the way Jonny acts. acting young and being immature are very different things. He still should've looked older, he's not even a vampire but animators make him one it seems.
@@badumba5511 maybe he aged well and cut his beard or the animators wanted to save money on design
I love how much Sony has been able to milk this series, with each one getting worse.
Sony milked "Hotel Transformania" like horny kindergarten sucking breasts!
Change one detail, stick to that plot point, and the whole movie becomes 50% better.
Address Johnny's mortality, and how he fears his family will spend majority of their lives without him there. Drac wants Johnny and Mavis to have the hotel now that it no longer represents safety for the monsters and it's just a vacation, but Johnny knows the hotel is only a couple of years younger than Mavis, but by the time their son is the equivalent of a teenager he'll be long dead, so he wants to be a monster to see him grow up.
How many times will they do âDracula liesâ storyline
How much better would the story be if instead of âDrac lies again blah blah,â it would be Johnny centered more on the aspect that he doesnât feel like a member of the family. Johnny feels like Drac doesnât trust him with the hotel is because as a human, he doesnât understand the hotelâs entire purpose for existence. So in an attempt to get Dracâs trust to help Mavis run the hotel, he turns himself into a monster. It could also focus on the fact that while his son and wife are immortal monsters, he knows he wonât be there forever and this is his key to cement his part as a member of the family forever.
I've said it before but the main reason I like watching Dazz is even when he hates a movie, he can recognize when something is good in it and praise it.
You know, the Invisible Man joke could've been a lot better if he had a tiny arc where he contemplates his looks and has issues dealing with the sudden shift in his vision (invisibility ruins vision in real life). That and he should look actually ugly. Not weird but unappealing.
Also, as for the hypnotizing vampire scene, we could just have a joke where Drac is happy to have read a "How to hypnotize vampires" book to justify the contradictory story element.
Honestly, Hotel Transformania is the scariest movie due to how bad it is.
Was this worse than the Amazing Spider Man 2?
@@Mariofanaticanimations I've only seen clips and reviews from both movies. (I do know most of the plot from both movies, so that's how I can judge.) But, most likely.
@@KingTrex because both are sequential baiting in both Transformania where Johnny and Mavis rebuilt the hotel one year later same with TASM2 with Spider-Man fighting the rhino at the end
I can think of worse
@@bighand1530 which one?
I always said that Johnny is probably the worst character in the HT movies. In movie 1, he's alright but in movie 2, he's supposed to be a father and husband, and yet he still acts like a 16 y-o hipster. His character has absolutely 0 growth, and it's no wonder Dracula wouldn't turst the hotel on such man. I wouldn't do it either. He just feels like an arrogant manchild, but I thought its alright cause since the 1st move, he was no more than a slapstic comic relief. But this new one basically justifies his behavior which is a horrible message for kids. He should've realized by the end that he's immature, he has no sense of responsibility, he's unable to take care of his own child - not to mention an entire hotel - and overall just a horrible person who's just mentally stuck in his teenage years.
I really, really wanted them to address Johnnyâs mortality. Kinda like Puss in Boots 2. Maybe show heâs aging and wants to become a monster to become immortal. His kid will enter highschool as he dies you donât think heâs gonna have a mid life crisis about that? Do you know how powerful it is to have a clown suddenly go through it?
And for some reason I really want them to bring in more universal horror icons. Dr. Frankenstein, Jekyll/Hyde, maybe 80s slashers. They made Van Helsing a villain so do them too.
It really sucks cause I genuinely did and do enjoy the first movie, it's writing was good, they actually used the fact it was animated to make movements more fun (but didn't make every second word a huge reaction), the characters were actually interesting, and even the premises of the three later ones are good, just the execution is awful.
Others have mentioned this, but why not make a storyline where they confront the fact that Johnny's going to get older and give him the option to become a vampire (or any other kind of monster that stays along for as long as Mavis can be expected to).
You could even flip the script from the previous films by having Dracula get to know the younger man's family better as they travel around a bit, and Johnny is forced to confront the idea of outliving all his loved ones and never getting to feel the sunlight (or a lot of the mortal pleasures he's taken for granted up to this point) again, or else grow old and pass long before his wife and well before his own son is ready to lose his dad.
A heavy topic, but an interesting one. It would probably mean the comedy is toned down just a bit and is probably unloaded onto Frank and the others, but that's a role they could play well as comedic reliefs.
The human character design makes me want to STRANGLE someone. I CANT EVEN EXPLAIN HOW DISSAPOINTED I AM.
The should have just expanded on the kid and his school life as a half human half vampire
honestly, the little cartoon segment at the end makes me feel like they're segueing into a possible tv series with that art style
there was already a tv show, mavis was left with her aunt, it was really bad and i couldnt get through the first few episodes
so if they are setting up another one, i hope its much better
Iâm such a big fan of the first movie. It means a lot to me and itâs something that I grew up with and was able to bond over with my family. The first one was such a nice testament to true comedy and passion; you could tell that the people who made it really cared about their characters, their story, and the silly monster genre. It was a comedy that took itself seriously but also didnât take itself seriously and was able to provide some great themes and wisdom while still having tons of fun. And itâs really sad that the series threw all of that out in favor of money. Iâve never seen this fourth movie and I never want to. Itâs best that we all pretend it doesnât exist; I sure as hell donât think of it as part of the actual story. I just ignore it and thatâs all the acknowledgement itâs worthy of. The legacy of the first movie doesnât deserve what itâs become.
Just curious: what's your opinion on the 2nd and 3rd movies? (I'm wondering if I want to watch them or not)
@@RiannaPetersonthe seconds hit or miss, depends on what you like, the third is bad, but still has some good, and you saw the forth one
" are you a bad father bobby" caught me off-guard and made me laugh way too hard
15:28 I think that look of Mavis from the first film pretty much symbolises the sheer ignorance and disrespect to poor Tartakovsky.
I think the reason why humans no longer question the existence of monsters was because when Dracula in HT2 brought humans to the hotel they started to broadcast the existence of monsters on social media which made monsters use social media which helped integrated them into mundane society.
Hotel Transylvania is creatively bankrupt, despite improvements to the animation, the rest of the film is stagnation. When you're out of ideas, just throw in a dance sequence; don't care about the film's setting, just use a continent in lieu of a country; don't care about character development, just rehash characterisation from the previous films; out of plot, just pad the runtime with randomness. As Joel and the bots from MST3k said about Attack of the Eye Creatures: "They just didn't care", a fitting description for Hotel Transylvania.
you know in the second hotel Transylvania drac tried to hypnotize another vampire, but he couldn't because he was a vampire, but he hypnotized Davis but how? He's a vampire too.
*Dennis
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Yeah, as someone who really enjoyed the original 3 Hotel Transylvania, I honestly couldn't find really anything that enjoyable about the 4th film.
BoJack was ahead of it's time, it's finally Halloween in January
I like how the comments had way better ideas than the original movie
I think the perfect send off for this series should have been a story set 15 years after the events of the third Hotel Transylvania and its about Mavis trying in vain to turn Johnny into a vampire so her and Dennis doesn't have to watch him grow old. I think children movie's should include themes about mortality and the like. Add a B plot about a teenaged Dennis and Winnie going on a cute adventure and maybe having their zing moment to keep the mood from getting too dark and I think it would have been an amazing final entry.
Dont worry guys, the SpiderVerse sequel is gonna fix everything
I dunno
I'm really hoping the sequel is gonna be good đ
Please
The problem i found whit the movie is that drag was working so hard that to protect the hotel and everyone lets not forget the hotel was made after mavis mom passed away which i assume drag is emotionally attached to it and then handing it to a hippy kid who for what iv seen from the movie is dumb as hell would feel like seeing it get destroyed so i kinda understand but mavis out here slapping drac around for no reason
I can feel Dazz's life draining down the sink while reviewing Hotel Transylvania 4.
The first one was a great movie, it felt fresh and there was a major child-parent conflict going on. The second one's a little too boring compared to the first movie but overall also great. But the following movies.. just why.
having only seen the first movie in this franchise and now this review, its actually really jarring quite how much the animation has changed- movement and texture wise probably for the better, but now the characters have eyes too large it looks ugly, and the new characters like Erica don't look like they're from the same film the original designs of characters like Mavis and Johnny
18:26 "All you care about is your STUPID hotel!!". Ah yes, the stupid hotel that your father built solely to protect you and other monsters from the cruel humans after they slaughtered your mother in cold blood. THAT hotel.
I get that Mavis was angry, but I think she either didn't know or didn't acknowledge the very reason Dracula built the hotel in the first place.
Its a shame how success can ruin a franchise... the first movie was pretty decent, but its only spiraled downhill from there. :/
I believe this movie could have been much better if instead of focusing on Drac not liking humans (again) it focused on Johnny trying to prove to Drac he was capable of mature decisions and could handle the pressures and responsibilities of running such a hotel.
The only group doing a good job on this movie was the animators, and their work lives are *hell.* Give it up for the real MVPs who deserved a project worth their time.
14:23 honestly I really like this use of 3d animation here. That's one thing this series has always taken full advantage of, as you couldn't have told the same story in the same way with live action.
Honestly first movie was great, especially with the dynamic of protecting family from humans. So emotional and the reveal of their tragic romance or zing. They shouldâve had it so johnny realises he will die when his kid is still in his âyouthâ. Dealing with mortality and even bonding with drac who was a single dad. Couldâve explored so many concepts like the first movie
If Shrek and now Toy Story can get a part 5, something tells me Hotel Transylvania could too
yeah, with Dennis and Winnie grown up and zinging with each other
Iâve noticed that each movie seems to center around Drac not liking Johnny or accepting him so he has to go through it again in some way or form. My other issue is that they havenât physically aged up the characters. I would have loved to see an âolderâ version of Mavis and Johnny, yes I know Mavis is immortal but maybe have her change her style or hair to seem different. My other issue is how Johnny hasnât changed much from the 1st movie after being a father. I donât remember (I havenât watched the movies in a long while so correct me) that he doesnât have much interaction wit his own son and still acts like a child. Which having a childish personality can be fun but he doesnât seem to change much after becoming a father while Mavis does. It also seems like sheâs babysitting both her son and her own husband. I think they can be a cute dynamic but neither of them changed much.
the movie felt so short, and not think trought
They should have just made the plot like: Johnny becomes a vampire after seeing himself age slightly, he gets the grand idea to become a vampire by asking Drac. Drac, Mavis and the others have a a sort of celebration with Johnny becoming a vampire, throughout the movie Drac and Mavis along with Johnny all go to teach Johnny on how to fly and such sort of like the 2nd movie. With Drac's friend's trying to run the hotel with all of their clashing ideas.
I don't mind this film to be honest. I think I prefer Johnny in this to 2 & 3, they actually remembered he's a backpacker.
I like little moments like Van Helsing's lab, the secondary monsters becoming human. In fact having Frankenstein's monster become handsome is pretty clever, as in the original book Doctor Frankenstein specifically wanted to build a perfect man with several beautiful body parts.
I'm lucky as I don't mind animated violence, so Dracula struggling to be human wasn't a problem for me, but yeah they do do it a bit too much.
The thing that's really interesting to see between films is the animation. Especially the design for Dracula. I forget how oddly glossy he looks in 1, almost like porcelain.
This one I kind of like how they doubled down on the rubber hose animation style. It's still a shame we never got the Pop-Eye film we were teased with, as I could imagine the animation being beautiful.
Overall it's obviously not as deep as other animated films, but I think it provides a nice ending for the series.
I had literally no idea that this movie existed until now.
One small detail that I hated about the monster gun chase scene is when Dracula hypnotizes Dennis and Winnie. If you remember from HT2 they mentioned that Vampires CAN'T BE HYPNOTIZED. Winnie might have been hypnotized, but it is impossible for Dennis to be hypnotized
I feel like if they made Johnnyâs monster design more scary because.. his design is just, (laughing) but this movie shouldâve never existed in the first place
When johnny said "hey drac what's up?" Instead of drac I thought he said shrek.
The very phineas joke, was too good for me lol
Changes Iâd make
- like other commenters say, change the reason Johnny becomes a monster to him wanting to have a longer lifespan so he can live with Mavis and Dennis. Why he couldnât just ask Mavis to bite him? IDK lmao
- this is more of a comedy thing, but when the invisible man becomes visible, make him live action. Just stick a real man in there. Funny. Naked jokes are kinda cringe IMO.
- since his motive was changed, Johnnyâs meltdown at the end should be changed. He learns that if he doesnât become human again soon, heâll go beserk, but because thatâll bring him back to his human lifespan, he refuses to be human again, causing him to go beserk. Also the reason heâs unshootable is because an emotional trigger which made the beserk thing way worse, but the hamster just thinks âme bigger. That cool. Hotel yummy.â It isnât the best explanation, but at least there is one.
- have people actually be concerned/amazed/have any reaction to a giant lizard man.
- the end, instead of just a shrug, has him grimace, maybe even try to argue, but Mavis is like âitâs mostly the same, we just caught it up. Monsters have been missing out on a LOT. We still kept most of it the same, so donât worry!â And Dracula is still a bit upset, but soon gets used to it.
Itâs not the best, but I think itâs a bit better than what we got đ
In the first film at the end Dracula freezes mavis and some other monsters and sings instead of them, but in this movie apparently she cant be frozen anymore???
Adam Sandler is what gave the other 3 movies their charm.
the fact that i didnât know that this existed until this vid says a lot
2:08
Ferb. I know what we're gonna do today.
The art style on dragon Johnny is just⊠bad. Even for a pre-existing quasi-rubberhose style, the extremities are far too large, and it just feels like they went too far over the Cartoonish line upon which they hit the sweet spot with 3
20:57 This is straight up YTP material right here đ
You should make The terrible Ice Age 4 & 5, The terrible Surf's up 2 and The terrible Rio 2
reasons why this movie was disappointing (yes i watched it, i thought it would be better) :
-in the first scene, drac froze everyone, but forgot he canât freez vampires.. so why did dennis freeze?
-if drac was so scared on what to think during his announcement, why didnât he just say he needed more time to âpractice the announcementâ and tell the truth to johnny that heâll give him the key if he doesnât do anything to the hotel
-the âfunkyâ dance đ
-drac hypnotises dennis, AGAIN, HE IS A VAMPIRE, THEY CANâT BE HYPNOTISED
-so if the ice had the human stuff in it, did any other monster not drink through that? there had to be just one other monster?
-so it was easier to go on the ground, which is slower, and echolocate them, COULDNâT THEY JUST DO THE SAME THING IN A FLYING BLIMP!?
-didnât johnny realise he was climbing up a fucking mountain/cliff?
-later in the movie, mavis says that it was dracâs fault, well was he the one hearing there conversation about retirement? was drac the one who told johnny heâs retiring? NO! it was ALL mavis
-during the cave part of the movie, drac bumped his head in the crystal wall to reveal the crystal they were looking for, but that wasnât a bump on the head, that wouldâve cracked his fuckin skull open
-the rest of the movie is just some bullshit đ©
Couple questions, where is Johnny making money to take care of his family if he doesn't go to work?.
How is Dracula making money to mentain his hotel if the monsters are always around and doesn't go to work?.
Biased: unfairly prejudiced for or against someone or something.
Pretty sure this movie would not be terrible if they tried to make the audience laugh in ANY different way than just "haha pain Dracula is suffering laugh laugh LAUGH"
The first movie was pretty good. They probably should have stopped there. At least the animation and direction is quite nice.
They shouldâve stopped at 3
If the blob turns into jello wouldnât the mummy be dust? Mummies are decaying corpses.