All Hades 2 Keepsakes Ranked and Explained! | Haelian
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00:00 Hecate
01:47 Odysseus
03:32 Schelemeus
04:48 Dora
06:40 Nemesis
08:48 Moros
11:05 Charon
12:12 Artemis
14:45 Selene
16:00 God Keepsakes
18:18 Arachne
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LoL I had no idea most keepsakes were already available. Madness to see this kind of videos this early.
Part of it is realizing that dying and not beating the boss can let you progress a lot further in the story, I don't know if a lot of people realized that (of course a few people probably did)
Very nice that the story isn't completely locked in this test :D
Looks like half are available. Just like Hades 1 a lot of them were soft locked but making it further in the game.
I can’t wait to see what they really look like
@@justarandomdood You can continue even after the 5 tests, it's just counted as completed
@@ethancox1826 does the game not block you from starting a new run? Could've sworn I saw that happen to Dan's game on stream, which is why he started purposely dying to Hecate :P
You're sleeping on Engraved Pin. While it can save you from wasting a DD to a stupid death, that's only it's most base use. You can also trigger it intentionally to the last monster in a chamber for a repeatable heal or ignore incoming boss damage for 10 seconds while you wail on them.
wait what, so you still restore 30 if only one monster remain? and you can repeat that shit? I have to try this.. (that description is confusing now that I think about it, how do you die if "no foes remain")
@@fatalfury28 if you die in an encounter, it activates. You have ten seconds to clear the encounter, or you lose a death defiance. If you clear the encounter, you are restored to 30 / 45/ 60 hp depending on the rank of the keepsake. It can trigger once per encounter so what you can do is, if you are near the end of an encounter you can intentionally die and proc the keepsake, then kill the enemy which will restore you back to the hp stated. Its actually kinda overpowered
it was my early game run pusher, just to get to Chronos and farm mats (Love the Hades games but i suck at them xD)
LMAO Dora getting an F tier, this is the drama we love to see 😂😂
Also, remember y'all, when you rank up a keepsake, the _green_ numbers go up (lookin at you Odysseus's Knuckle Bones, with green and white numbers)
Hmm, white antler is an 80% average damage increase if you can play at 30 HP comfortably... I might well try it out, it sounds like a nice adrenaline rush to me tbh hahaha
@@justarandomdood It has good synergy with Hestia's magic regeneration.
White antlers is going to be nuts, unlike hades 1, you can prob comfortably stay at 30hp, between the extra armor you could get plus shield boon allowing for extra survivability
Not to mentioned with how the arcana is set up, you could just not pick the plus hp arcana and put it elsewhere
agreed
I can confirm this. I haven’t completed Kronos yet but I have definitely made it to him using white antler through the entire place through. When combined with the dual blades, it trivializes the entire first section of the game. The second section can be a little nasty with the blades because it focuses on AOE so you hopefully have something to counteract that. 3rd area is trivialized.
By my math, with it maxed out with a 40 percent crit chance, your average damage output goes up 80 percent.
(1 × 0.6) + (3 × 0.4) = 1.8
Even if it's inconsistent that's totally insane.
The Artemis keepsake is broken, for what I can say. If you take out the health upgrade, that 40% start hiting in the first chamber of the run and the fact that critical is not as common as in the first game just make it even more valuable, its more crit chance than most hunter's mark raritys. Its a 40% PP (pressure points) witch were one of the most reliable boons of hades one. Even the lack of health do not look so much of a problem, because of the armor that we can get (for what i can tell) really easily during a run.
yup, Great finisher too and makes you to not worry about hp buffs any way. That ring help learns you to avoid damage too.
They are plumbing the depths of the tech test, goddamn
Thanks for always making my day better. My jobs really stressful and I love watching you to make my day better! Keep it up love your vids!
Regarding Artemis keepsake:
Zeus already has a boon that cuts you mana for a tradeoff, so Hestia boon for -20% HP for +7 mana/s seems pretty reasonable, and with the Arachne and Hephaestus +30 armour in each location is going to be great.
Glass cannon builds with the antler are going to be prevelant, especially since we can't know now if Artemis even is going to be in the room, like Thanatos in Hades I.
Path of Stars might be similar to Erebus Gates. could give a reason for why they don't appear in Tech Test without it just being explicitly disabled for Tech Test.
for Arachne's Keepsake, ideally obviously you want an Outfit to keep on for the Armor, but just more Armor accumulation can help lower risk. it can potentially rack up more total dmg negation than healing or death defiances by a lot. I'd say it's a pretty solid defensive keepsake for stronger players if taken early. probably not the best if taken late (though even just one region can be up to 20+11*4? Armor)
I think Artemis keepsake greatly benefits from being able to stack armor. Requires a setup though.
Get sub 30 health first biome, silken sash second biome, Artemis keepsake after
I think someone in chat pointed out that base health in hades 2 atm is 30, it's one of the cards that starts you with more so if you just don't take that card you start 30 so you could very easily start silken sash and mass stack armour from the first "location", obviously you are then leaving your boons to rng so taking it second biome might be better for most people.
White antler + armor might be interesting, especially if you can get them more then once. That 30 heart + the +50 armor might be worth the 40% crit increase.
I could see White Antler being very useful in a very specific set up, because Armor exists. White Antler stipulates health, it doesn't count the armor. So if you manage to build up obscene amounts of armor quickly, you can then use the Antler with barely any drawbacks.
I feel like when I get to play the game I'll be able to just absolutely dive in thanks to your videos
Feels like the ghost onion would be useful depending on how it applies order wise. Like if it applies first as an effect that sucks. But if it applies after any other health replenishments than it could be decent? Especially in conjunction with boons that reward high health.
seems like a bunch of keepsakes are missing, the letters inbetween aren't all full. wonder why they skipped certain letters instead of having a neat filled list
there are also two "N" and no "M"
Back from the Keepsake Tierlist posted on June 3rd, this'll be fun
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Hecate/Wheel: A to C (narrowly avoided D)
Odysseus/Knuckle Bones: B to B
Schelemeus/Luckier Tooth: A to B
Dora/Ghost Onion: D to C
Nemesis/Evil Eye: C to D
Moros/Engraved Pin: D to S (LMFAOOOO)
Charon/Gold Purse: B to C
Artemis/White Antler: D to S (LMAOOO AGAIN; shoutouts to 14:27 saying "I don't think this'll be *_the_* DPS trinket" LOL)
Selene/Moon Beam: meme S on no info to D 😋😋
All Gods: no score (likely S) to S
Arachne/Silken Sash: S to A (similar analysis funny enough haha)
Not too bad outside of the Pin and White Antler. The accurate predictions were accurate and the inaccurate ones were terrible LMAOOO
I think the evil eye is another helpful for new players charm. Someone who is struggling with a roadblock in the game can put this on to give them a boost and make their fight against a troublesome boss easier.
Watching this video after the early access is very interesting. I wonder if we could get an updated video for the full keepsake list
Armor builds and high health sustain builds are gonna be fun. Basically incredibly good sustain as long as you don't get rocked in any given room
I am also in the technical test and it is genuinely so fun. I am for sure looking forward to early access and release. I am wondering how they are going to balance the Arcana card system since even in Technical you can unlock all(?) of them. Some of the chambers do feel a little claustrophobic for the amount of enemies that spawn tho. I am also a switch player so learning how to play on PC while also learning the new game has been rough. Obviously there are some missing elements but for a Tech test the game feels remarkably polished. I haven't had any technical issues yet. Some things do feel unbalanced still but every game has that at some point.
The new elements, the magic, the new gods, just everything is amazing. The game is so beautiful. My fav new goddess is Selene. The ties between Selene, Artemis, Hecate, and Melenoe (spelling lol) seem really interesting. I can't wait to see how it plays out with the whole Silver Sisters thing. I am loving the story and I am already hooked and want to know more. For people with steam it really is worth it to sign up for the Technical and Early access even if you haven't played Hades 1. The story is connected but not in a way that will leave new players feeling lost and out of the loop.
and OMG the voice acting! Its just amazing. Hecate is voiced by the same woman who did the narrator in Balders Gate 3 and she is just fantastic. Every actor does an absolutely amazing job and I can't wait to hear more of their performances. I cannot say enough good things about this game its just an absolute blast. You just have to be okay with dying alot lmfao
Hephaestus has a boon that keeps your armor at a minimum of 15 at the beginning of each location. The Arachne keepsake would pair well with that. Tho if you lose all your armor in a location you'd still lose the effect of of the outfit. Now that I think of it you'd only benefit from the keepsake + Hephaestus boon combo on hitless locations.
Also I think the knuckle bones are really good for people that get stuck on a particular boss. Tho maybe Evil Eye would be better
The knuckle bones is basically discount Demeter legendary from Hades 1 with an added bonus to damage reduction! Seems pretty nice tbh
For evil eye, does vanquished me the end of the run or just a death? If something like stubborn defiance exists with vanquishing meaning just a death, then you could get way more use out of it. I appreciate the content and what you do for the community!
Moons boon are mostly guaranteed and often when there is a full moon. You can peak looking at the surface in your base. That what i've noticed.
Dora could be useful for Aphrodites boons that tops up your health when above a certain threshold to get it back up there… other than that i think that’s it
You can buy armor from Charon. Idk if there are limits on it appearing but worth noting
Engraved Pin is an S for me because you get to hear Moros' and his countdown and I love him-
The death defiance stacks which makes Luckier Tooth really good
Arachne's keepsake seem like it would "heal health" (ie add armor) in advance starting from the first room exit. So with perfect room clears you can get to the boss with some stacked extra "health" even without taking centaur hearts, Arachne room or other survival boons.
Also if you lose some health and then get armor, you get double "healing" after each room - one for health and one for armor.
The question is how much armor you can possibly stack.
If you can stack armour from different sources, Arachne's keepsake is super powerful.
I'm going to imagine a no-hit run here with Arachne's upgraded keepsake, meeting her, plus shop before boss. 20 + 44 armour, plus a dress (30 or there abouts) plus shop. You're walking into Hecate with double your health in armour. If you can beat Hecate normally without a DD, then you're carrying at least 50 armour into the next biome.
Haven't got into the tech test so Idk but I seem to remember there being a boon (Apollo's I think - something like perfect image?) that buffs you at max health? So maybe Dora's keepsake and Aphro's boons are supposed to be enablers for some kind of max health build? Idk, it would take a lot more support but could be interesting if there is an appropriate duo or something.
Apollo's Perfect Image boosts damage in a given encounter until you take damage, but this would help maintain Aphrodite's Shameless Attitude, which boosts damage if you are at/above 80% health :]
Apollo's boon is for extra damage as long as you avoid damage.
@@bddbdwbej Ah OK. Are there any other Image Boons? Or maybe they will make some sortof Aphro/Apollo Duo that is based on them.
@@menaceonbike5893 oops -- made a typo, Aphrodite's boon is called Shameless Attitude instead of Shameless Image. Apollo has the only "Image" boon as of yet, to my knowledge, but I'd definitely love to see all the duo boons from our new Olympians
White Antler is going to be broken. You can stack armor. The play is to avoid passive heals, go to every shop and buy as much armor as you can. Once it's online, things won't survive long enough to hit you too often.
arachne’s seems really good, especially since you can reup your armor at a shop
I think the best use of armor/Arachne's keepsake is with those boons that only activate at high health
Did you not ever do a Hades 1 keepsake tier list? Not seeing one searching your channel.
tbh when i read engraved pin I wasn't too sure about it, but i put it on when trying to level all my keepsakes and it actually felt really good, mainly because you go impervious, i was vsing the last boss on the surface and i didn't kill them during it but because you go impervious i was able to jsut wail on them for 10 seconds and not worry at all about dodging and i got like 40% of their health down during it, then finished them off shortly after.
I don't think it's top tier but it suprisingly felt more solid than i thought, and can come in so clutch to save a death defiance in a normal room (also to me it's just really fun when it triggers and feels so rewarding if you actually get it off)
Note for the Engraved pin 10 seconds of being impervious isn’t really what it is, if you kill all enemies in the chamber you get the heal and everything works correctly.
the impervious for 10 seconds isn’t all it’s doing, what it actually does is put your life on a 10 sec timer / delay your death by 10 seconds, if all enemies aren’t dead when the timer is up you die or use your death defiance charge, it doesn’t care if you are at 0 hp or 100hp you die anyways.
When they say path of stars do we think it has something to do with those crescent moon things that we see in the ground sometimes? Or do we already know what those do
phase shift is absolutely gamebreaking with upgrades. i think it's the best hex by far. of course people will say moon water is better, but I would say phase shift is better for better players. moon water value only comes into play if you get hit, which ideally, you're not getting hit at all, which phase shift helps with immensely. i used to take moon water only, then i got gud and now i ignore it mostly because i'm not taking nearly as much damage after learning the enemies. if you highroll your path of stars on phase shift you can actually slow down chronos in his fight, it's already broken against eris by default. i got it to a point where i had 100% uptime on it (reduced the cost of the hex and increased the mana cost of my omega special with the blades, plus born gain) and she stood absolutely no chance, just perma stunlock. that said I think a build where you're aiming to get phase shift would benefit greatly from the moon beam keepsake, just to ensure that you get the big upgrades you need to make it certified broken
I think the pictures of the Keepsakes are placeholders
I would much prefer to have god keepsakes with unique effects. That would be an amazing change from the first game. Then maybe you can have a shrine where you can sacrifice/burn/offer some collectible to a god to change the RNG. In this way, they would also have this new economy around that collectible too.
God keepsake fix: you can only use one god keepsake per run.
It still lets them be really useful, but will still have to adapt to what we see when playing. Also kind of fits lore wise with gods being jealous and all.
If you don’t set the last enemy to a boss doesn’t that mean all of those enemy types take 40% more damage?
Enemy type? If you mean that you die to an enemy (heart thrower guys in the fields) then yes you would do more damage to all heart throwers you come across
I imagine some of the issues (like god keepsakes being mandatory and some keepsakes seeming good for one biome or two) could be mitigated by there being a bunch more total biomes than in Hades I. I get the vibe that it will have more.
*Ghost Onion* Now now, let's not be hasty with Ghost Onion. Seeing that it is rank one, 50/75/100 is still pretty good if your max is roughly around the threshold of the keepsake, because now you get massive use from Aphrodite's boon "Shameless Attitude", the one that grants you big damage if your health is above 80%. I recall another boon not sure if it was from Aphrodite but it restores your health to FULL if you're above a specific %, which you would be with this combination, so essentially you can break the game and provided as long as you don't die in a location, you get full health and the damage boost back. This all depends in the order of how the boons activate I guess... but at least full heal every two rooms if you're somewhat careful. Bonus Note: There is also boons that reduce your max health for big benefits.
*Evil Eye* One aspect of Evil Eye is that it grants damage against the last foe that vanquished you, so what happens when you die to the final boss, then beat him, what happens? I think it stays at the last foe, being the final boss, so you now have a permanent 40% damage boost against final boss provided you make it to him or through him every night. This makes it a great boss farming tool
Luckier Tooth activating AFTER your other DDs makes it so much worse. Wouldn't recommend if you're not at the last biome and still have DDs remaining
Too bad Aromatic Phial wasn't in the tech test, because holy shit
40% Crit on 3* is massiv, BUT only 30 HP is rough. Since in hades1 crit boons scaled very well with themselfs or high power slot boons, I can see a world where you slot in artemis keepsake in late bioms after encountering her/ getting a special hammer or boon.
For high heat this is useless tho: 30 is not enough to take some hits. Remember we have less dashes now and we know of tracking enemy attacks like hecate sheep: maybe in these cases you rather „tank“ some damage and keep up DPS. We will have to see.
I have a question about the god keepsakes. So along with forcing the god to show up.
They allow you to Lv up the rarity of one of their offered boons once per run?
Common->rare->epic->heroic right?
If I got that right then it’s an interesting idea. And I think I like it. I’ll just have to wait and see it in action.
… …wait I just thought of something. These keepsakes don’t give you a +% increase to boon rarity like in the first game. So these are useless for helping with getting Legendary and duo boons.
Because if I understand it correctly in Hades 1 the +% rarity chance on god keepsakes also helped increase the chance of legendaries and duo boon right?
Hmm that’s an interesting pay off. Basically it grantees that any god boon you want to be at least of rare rarity.
But you don’t get extra help when shooting for Legend and Duo boons.
All of this is true
@@Haelianthanks.
I'd of put ghost onion D tier, it's not useless it's just situational
I don’t feel these keepsakes are finalized… I feel something is off there, like, they have been rushed to release technical test ASAP…
White Antler is no more than 30 HP and if you don't use the arcana card to increase HP you start with 30 HP constant +20-40% damage could be huge if you are high skilled enough to avoid hits!
Kinda weird that the engraved pin and ghost onion are both kinda just worse lucky tooth
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They should include a prayer system or something, so you can pray or sacrifice to a god to guarantee a Boon from them.
That way they could have the actual god keepsakes do something interesting and prevent them from being must takes, while still allowing the player to choose Gods for the pool.
Yeah and also doing a prayer to a god could also have a added bonus of like talking to that god as well so that if you need the god. I.E need a boon from them or like want to make out friendship even like story specific things where you need to talk to a certain god it can help. (Idk this just an added thing on your thing also they way I interpreted what you were saying lol)
I think the prayer thing should be you get one a night so it’s like fair
A speedrun meta where you progress to the ideal enemy and die to it just to start over with the evil eye sounds miserable. I really hope that doesn't happen
Jezus christ how much can you milk a tech demo. Starving for content
Lmao game is out this was a helpful guide