@@BeomgyusSandhanitizeryeahh same in our opinion the one to blame is the label and the one who controlled and rigged the votings not the members of the group
It was fans who voted for her. She had most of the votes to be in the group. So its fans fault bc international fans are hating just bc koreean fans chose her.
@@Havis_Princessbecause international fam vote for excluded. Otherwise she would not have got a chance to debut. Hating on her is stupidity. As it's Hybe who showed favouritism towards her by only including Korean votes. If international fans were included she would not have ended in debut line. Fans are upset because their favourite were used. But they should hate HYBE for this. Hating a 16 yr old girl is stupidity
@@Havis_Princess yes this is true but we saw how the judges praised her for the bare minimum. WONHEE has a lot of potential but I don't think she should have debuted now where she would receive a ton of hate rather than debuting later when she would be treated better
@@Havis_Princessthats not true, corean votes never put her in the top top, this whas obout judgers overvoting her not obout corean fans, also this narrative obout corean fans defending her is not true, most of the comments are against her being the first pick, this whas a shitshow and hybe ruin part of thisgirl debut.
It's the company's fault, they literally rigged the show. (Edit because replies are going wild.) Y'all can't understand what you read? I DIDN'T blame Wonhee, I DON'T hate her. I just said that the show was clearly rigged. Didn't you see the way a grown man looking Wonhee who is a 15 years old MINOR child? It was truly disgusting. It didn't matter how many mistakes Wonhee do, they were sure they're gonna make Wonhee debut. That's called favouritism, and this is clearly Hybe's fault.
The side effects of debuting kids, this is why I was against this, but people who were watching the show for them 20 year old was too old to debut, people voted for her and stop blaming company in everything, it was her parents fault who let her join the show, it was people's fault who supported her, unless and until people stop supporting kids debut they won't stop debuting it, boycott how people start boycott hashtag for apologizing for something they (idols) didn't do it
During the first round of votes wonhee ranked 9th,And she became 1st after the 2nd round of votes which was only open for koreans.. so basically it is rigged.. It was obviois from the start of the show that they wanted wonhee by giving too much screentime for her.. but whatever it is company's fault..noone should hate on a kid who isnt even responsible for this mess
Minors or not, they deserve to be respected....I'm so sad to the other girls who didn't debut because they have some supporters that are toxic towards their friend who debuted.
@Akira-gs4oi I voted Jiwoo along Wonhee and my other faves, but I didn't get into some point where I needed to hate others just because they didn't make into final line up. 😊😇
No literally, like, if the other girls saw the hate Wonhee was getting from their fans, which I’m sure they have now, they’d be so disappointed. Wonhee was like everyone’s baby throughout the whole show, it was so clear they all loved her and to see their fans hating on her so much must be devastating and disappointing.
People are just mad that how can a kid who only trained ONE month debuted also on 1st place, and why she got 1st place when she is not that talented, she def have potential, but even if she would've trained 1 year people wouldn't be so mad, the criteria of people's vote for her was only her "pretty and cute face" Nothing else.... She def didn't deserved to debut at least not now.... After 1-2 years then it would've made sense.... People are now criticizing to those who voted for them, they knew she will get hate, they knew some even warning thm not to vote but no use. ..
@@caratheadarmybut this has nothing to do with her being a kid. I mean, Iroha is younger than her and she’s fine. It has to do with people not wanting someone who they perceive as “just a pretty face”(which is incredibly wrong, she’s way more than that) to do well.
That's probably a joke, but in the internet or even in real life there are at least 3 groups of bystanders. One who will hate, one who remains neutral, and one who will help. And all it takes is momentum from either extremes for the neutral group to follow.
It's wrong, and we shouldn't hate on idols, but it's hard to resist when someone's the textbook definition of pretty privilege. I don't blame her. I blame the morons who voted for her and the company. She doesn't deserve hate but at the same time, it was and still is hard to see people who are objectively not as good succeed over those who actually excel without being bitter and jaded, especially if you're emotionally attached and the stakes wereso high.
@@kpopnimationit’s hard to resist hating on a literal minor? There shouldn’t be any excuse to go as far as to bash her for smth she couldn’t control😐I know she probably shouldn’t have been chosen in terms of skill but that’s hybes fault, not hers.
@@kpopnimation'Hard to resist'..?? do you realizing how f*ing stupid and idiotic that sounds? "oH, tHiS gIRl iS pREtTy aNd sHe dEButTeD. lEt'S f*iNg cByErbULly hER!" imagine if that so 'hard to resist' little thing of yours, pushes her off the edge to the point that she wants to harm herself. that's a horrible mentality to have. literally read that comment back and realize how stupid it is. "*it's wrong, and we shouldn't hate idols.* but it's *hard to resist* when someone's the textbook definition of *pretty privilege*" like are you mentally ok?? Wonhee is not just pretty. She's a girl with personality, a girl with a pretty tone of voice, a girl with amazing dancing skills, a girl with friends that love and adore her properties, a girl with great stage presence and expressions, and the list goes on. She's not some little f*ing doll that you can rag doll around, she has feelings, and she's human. Imagine she was your friend, your friend is getting death threats and extreme hate due to 'being pretty' and pursuing her dream. There's a reason why she was scouted, she just has that aura. Not every pretty person in Korea is gonna be scouted. Look at Wonyoung, she was literally born to be an idol. She has that aura, that presences, a beautiful tone of voice, and a beautiful exterior. JYP himself complimented her on it, saying she's the "Perfect idol". And that's what Wonhee has. Your eyes immediately go to her every time she's on stage, she just shines. Her cuteness just adds onto that. And i'm not comparing the 2 in a malicious way, i'm showing off how it's not just your skills that are needed to be an idol. Sure, it's obviously extremely important to be able to dance and sing, but also having that presence, expressions, personality, aura, etc. Look at produce 48, the girls that didn't make it were the ones who lacked certain aspects of a stage maker. Sure they had the skills, but did they bring it on stage? No not really. I'm not trying to bring the girls down because they did amazing, I just feel they could add a little more emotion into it. To some, this trait takes time. To others, it's a given talent.
the reason I didn't wanted wonhee to debut bcz I knew she will be hated a lot and she is too young but now I want everyone to protect her. let's accept the result and support the current members if not want to support them then let's not even hate them. and we can wish for our fav who were able to make it to be at even a nicer place let's support wonhee and others
I knew this was coming, if it was wonhee or any other contestant (with whom hybe was biased) they would have got hate, it's totally hybe's mistake, the whole show was literally rigged and I don't understand like didn't they realise tht she would receive alot of hate? like many international fans were literally giving full signs tht the whole group and specially wonhee would receive hate and she is literally 15 (ig she is 16 now? idk) tbh she doesn't deserves this hate, it's not her mistake and I even feel like she knew she would receive hate, we all know it was kinda shocking she ranked first but hating on her isn't going to help either 🤷♀️
It wasn't her fault oh yeah it was her parents fault who let her join the show, it was those people's fault who voted her and also supported her, it was also hybe fault.... People who were watching the show said a 20 year old is too old to debut, they didn't voted for those talented girls, look at theri line up more than 2 members are minors
Yes because HYBE has been holding people at gunpoint to harass her every day and send her dts lol. It's the RUNEXT fandom's fault as well, because they were all about protect the minors. it was bullsht at the end, but who's surprised? nobody
@@caratheadarmyShe wants to become an idol, it’s not anyone’s fault but Hybe. You can’t blame her parents for allowing her to go on the show while hybe literally rigged the show in the first place, it doesn’t make any sense. People should hate hybe for debuting her when there were far better contestants not wonhee just because she got debuted in the first place😐
If I see Wonhee change I will never forgive anyone. She might’ve not been your pick but she still is gonna debut and people need to get over it. Lets make her feel accepted and included ❤❤
@@i-am-CrystalShe’s comparatively less deserving and has less developed talent. Yes, she’s a sweetheart and I with many other people do think she deserves to debut, just not in this group. Can’t do anything abt it tho.
There were people better than her, so it was surprising to everyone that she was debuting but please dont do hate comments because she is only a kid and this is not her fault, lets support our little Wonhee❤❤ i hope she is okay
You're not obligated to support her just out of pity. Just staying out of her way is the best option if you believe that she didn't deserve that place. Don't get me wrong, I feel super angry for the fact that she debuted instead of Jiwoo and Chanelle with 0% real experience but still I don't hate her because I know it's not her fault. It's 100% HYBE's fault for debuting minors just because of favoritism. It was so cringe watching judges like Lee Hyun and the other old woman smiling like idiots because of "how cute Wonhee was" while blindly ignoring huge mistakes...another show that proves beauty is over talent in that shitty industry
@@jinmyluvExactly! in this cases I think the best way to avoid this is for them to confront the problem front and clear and for the agency to come front and own they reserved the admition of the members rights because the concept they wanted for the group. And we liked it or not, it seems she did not "winned" her place, she was debuted because other people "gave her" the place, she did not asked that for but she acepted it and tooks all the benefits so this is the concecuences of her own actions, pointing thay is not hate, is stating an uncomfortable "truth" or opinion that given the scale of the benefits is understable the level of that kind of comments are gong to be there.
Hybe and JTBC should have seen this come already during the show, yet they ignored it and continued to favoritize and eventually rig the show for her, when they realized the favoritism didn't work. They better have the proper tools to help her dealing with all of this, because regardless of how people say "hate the show/company not the idols" there's going to be a lot of people who ignores this and will target her directly. I personally am really angry and disappointed, which I'm going to express, I'm not going to become a fan of the group, only be a casual listener, since I do like Yunah, Minju and Youngseo + I at least trust Hybe to give them good music But I'm going to express my anger, in hope of making sure it NEVER happens again. I won't be targeting her, however I am very much going to ignore her. I have no interest in her after taking another contestants spot. She could have been so talented and well loved, if only they had given her a couple of years training before debuting, but they absolutely had to ruin it for her.
@caratheadarmy In reality, her being a minor is simply the top of the iceberg. In reality, we are dealing with a "pretty privilege" and a potential "Nepo baby" which is why Wonhee is so much more disliked compared to Iroha. And while, yes, visuals do mean a lot within K-pop, there's absolutely no denying it. It isn't enough for an idol to claim or defend a spot, especially during a survival show. Specially a minor would need something to defend themselves when debuting. For instance, Niki of Enhypen, Niki was young, however the outrage of him being so young was very small and almost non existing, because he could at least defend himself with his dancing skills In the same way we have Iroha, Iroha isn't nearly as much criticized as Wonhee, because she is at least known for her dancing. Is her dancing actually that good? No, she has a tendency to overdance and get a hold on herself, but she is well on her way to becoming main dancer material. Like Wonhee, give Iroha a year or two, and she could have debuted with proper vocals and a main dancer position.
@@dharling97 i do agree with all your points, but this really doesn't change the fact that companies are obsessed with kids and debuting them and people are also supporting them blindly, imagine if that 12 year old girl debuted and she got hate, how badly that will affect her, but since she got eliminated I was kinda relived, but still, Parents are at the fault here, it's their fault for letting their child join the industry and let them debut, people are also so obsessed for them 21 year old is too old to debut like really!... People should boycott debuting kids then only companies will stop, otherwise the more they'll see support the more they'll debut, also the effect these kids are leaving on other normal kids are also not good, and on top of that, since kids minds aren't developed, some kids around me who are watching these kids and kpop idols start saying why am I not pretty like them, talented than them, why am I so fat, now you tell is it good for a kid to become insecure at such young age, they started starving themselves... Like wtf... This is really not good
The people who are bullying Wonhee are the same people who are "concerned" about debuting young idols. At this point they're just using the excuse of being "concerned" or her being "talentless" to hate her because Jiwoo or Chanelle didn't debut
I don't know why staff allow idols to read those messages. They should have a staff member select questions or comments sent by the fans and read them.
because seeing wonhee get upset from all the hate that she's getting is exactly what hybe wants. they want to garner sympathy at the expense of wonhee's mental health. i didn't agree with wonhee debuting cause i think it's still too early for her but she doesn't deserve the hate she's getting.
@@user-jm6gt9fh4i so the hate she got predebut just doesn't exist? she was already under a lot of heat before their debut because people were saying she doesn't deserve to debut. my point still stands lol
Wonhee is definitely not ready but she doesn't deserve all that hate. Especially since she's just a kid. And by the times goes by, she'll definitely get better so stop hating on her, instead hate on the judges
I personally don’t think Wonhee should’ve debuted, but sending hate comments to a child because she got a spot you think someone else should’ve gotten is ridiculously immature. If you’re gonna blame anyone for the show being rigged it should be HYBE.
im the same age as her it makes me upset to see people be so weird about her, recently there was a post on weverse where someone was hoping she'll end up like sulli too ☠️☠️☠️☠️ so fucking weird and disrespectful she seems really sweet and her singing is great, while it would've been better if she got more training before debuting there's nothing we can do about it now so i just hope she'll grow into an amazing idol
yes! there were contestants that would’ve been better, but people are acting like wonhee brings nothing to the group, and that’s simply not true. i wish that she hadn’t debuted so young and that she had more training, but i hope that she finds success and happiness!
I don't like how people are saying not to bully her because she's young. It's like saying if she was an adult it would be okay. I get people don't like kids debuting, but even if they were adults it would still be hard. Kids and adults can still take things badly, just because someone's older doesn't mean they're not going to feel bad. Why do people only worry about the kids?
so people really think they will change thing while hating on a 16 YEAR OLD KID,like wow,congrats to all smart ones who do it! Let her alone and be happy she made it to debut,while protesting you wont change anything,you will just ruin her life,your favs cant be back,better hope for them to debut anywhere else then hate the one who already debuted
Poor Wonhee. She didn’t even deserve the amount of hate. Why are they hating on a minor?? The people who sent messages like that are absurd for hating a minor. It’s not her fault that she won
People are so rude. You are allowed to have an opinion but keep in mind that she is a child. Haters are making it worse for her and she continue to grow and improve. I feel the same about jiwoo debuting but i will not go and throw hate and won bc she doesn't deserve hate at all. They need to know that people have feelings and these idols are real people and will be affected by what you say
If shes too young to get hate then shes too young to debut,im not excusing the hate or hating on her,but if her parent didnt care enough to Shield her why should we?
Jungkook and many other idols were young when they debuted. Can you all like stop hating on anyone just to make yourselves feel better? This world is already full of hate, jealously and negativity. We need more love, understanding, kindness, peace and positivity. Now more than ever. We already lost many idols due to hate. It's time to stop!!!!
What you said is correct, however, it's hard to resist when someone's the textbook definition of pretty privilege and we had to see people who deserved her spot/career more get screwed over. I don't blame her. I blame the shallow idiots who voted for her and the company. It's not her fault and I don't think she should get hate. But it's hard to see people who are objectively not as good succeed over those who actually excel without being bitter and jaded.
Wonhee only had a few months of training. You're also proving yourself to be not any better than those f*ing weirdos who are sending death threats and hating on a 15 year old.
Can y’all just stop cyber bullying they’re not dolls and if your saying wonhee is talentless then are you more talented than her honestly this is just making her have depression soon after wonyoung and Jennie and yuna now her imagine being a talentless guy judging them
It's wrong, and we shouldn't hate on idols, but you also have to understand that it's hard to resist when someone's the textbook definition of pretty privilege. I don't blame her. I blame the morons who voted for her and the company. She doesn't deserve hate but at the same time, it was and still is hard to see people who are objectively not as good succeed over those who actually excel without being bitter and jaded, especially if you're emotionally attached and the stakes were so high.
It wasn’t her fault the show was rigged we should really not bully her cause of it we should be welcoming and respectful towards all of them including wonhee It broke my heart seeing her on the verge of tears we should learn from the past and stop this while we can
I hope wonhee will be ok!! Ive already seen so much people that realized their mistakes and apologized and decided to stan them. In their next live lets flood the comments with love for her so that she doesnt have to feel down. If i were wonhee i would have cried on the spot when reading those hate comments. Wonhee is strong and i know she wont let these haters bring her down 아일릿 파이팅~🩵🩵🩵🤍🤍🤍
they do realize that Wonhee didn't CHOOSE to debut right? she's just a kid who has a dream and went for it, whether or not she debuted wasn't up to her whatsoever within these circumstances. there's a reason why companies get away with this and it's mainly due to people blaming and slamming the WRONG person.
Idk about the other members but I find her the most interesting in the group. She's the reason why I even watch some of their videos without being a fan of the group.
I knew this would happen, I talked to my friends who I watched the show with about this happening before it did. Thankfully, since it’s Weverse, those people will all be banned from the community. People need to remember she’s not a fault for winning the show. She didn’t choose win, she worked for it. I really hope these comments don’t affect her too much, she’s so cute and bubbly, I don’t want that to go away. She’s so young and has so much potential, I don’t want her to lose all her newfound confidence. I can’t believe people actually thinking hating on someone, especially so visibly, is okay. Wonhee and I’LL IT fighting!
It's the judges fault and the show for being biased to her. They literally made her the "punching bag" for debuting her so early in her training. Knetz are notorious for faulting idols that are not good enough. And international fans are bitter for ignoring the well trained trainees. It's bound to happen she just needs to strengthen her mindset and mentally, And show knetz and international netizens na she deserves and she will improve more in the coming months or years of her career to shut the haters and so they can learn to appreciate her. Plus never show that attitude of "I'm not good" (like her with Chanelle dividing parts) again.
Oh I def was hating but I would never post negative comments towards her or anyone else. People are so immature, why can’t they just keep it to themselves
I understand people are disappointed and mad because channelle, jiwoo and their bias in are u next are not debuted, but, I feel bad for this girl... I always see in every wonhee video's netizens always critized and give a hate comment for her (sorry for my bad English) STOP BULLYING
@@purplecake2303same, but I saw the performances and jiwoo, chanelle realllyyyy deserved to be debuted like REALLY, their stage presence, vocals, rap was literally so good, but they didn't and many international fans LOVED both of them and they already knew kfans were gonna vote for wonhee, but chanelle's and jiwoo's elimination was a huge shock for i-fans so they are comparing wonhee and both of them, coz of tht she is recieving hate :( she is talented but she needs to be trained more imo, and I think she really didn't deserve to be rank first (not hating just saying) and even tht was like a shock for i-fans
@@wooyoroll yess I am agree... I think it's company's fault, not wonhee. Like, why you guys wasted talented girls and ragged the show??? This is why I don't like watching survival show
While I do believe she shouldn’t be in the group, I really think it’s sad that people can’t acknowledge and respect the fact that she showed an INSANE amount of growth over the course of the show and deserves acknowledgement for that. Ultimately she is still talented and doesn’t deserve hate.
she’s a literal kid, can we let this poor girl do her thing and live her life? things the companies do to these idols isn’t the idols fault nor do they have any control over it. it’s not right the idols take responsibility and criticism for the companies actions. i mean hating on innocent idols is one thing but literal teenagers who are barley out of highschool is a new level of disgusting. comments and online bullying like this has lead to countless deaths and harming incidents, it’s important we do our best to support and protect these idols.
No. We should not support them. Bullying is not right, but we should not support idols like her because this means companies will see that debuting underskilled yet pretty idols earning fame and money and keep screwing over talented trainees like Jiwoo. The best thing to do is not to support them, but ignore. Bullying is wrong, but we still need a way to show that talent should triumph over visuals and “cuteness”
@@kpopnimation yeah, but is it their faults they don’t have better vocal coaches?? maybe instead of hating the idols we should be encouraging them to do better. the company are the ones who should be taking action and making sure the girls get the right vocal training. if they continue to show lack of vocal skill and prove to us they aren’t making an effort is when we can start to truly hold them accountable for their actions they are now causing. i do think their vocals could use work and they definitely do NOT meet up to the standards, but i definitely won’t go around bashing underaged idols for it.
I never voted for wonhee n preferrred other members. I am bummed my dream lineup didnt debut but no way in hell would I bully this girl bv of a company issue. She is still talented even if she is fully ready but she will improve n i wish her the best of luck. Also alot of fans who say they "blame the company" let out their frustration on wonhee subtly, indirectly or even give backhanded comments to wonhee, not all fans do that, there are fans who actually care for her but believe she wasnt ready n dont send hate comments or back handed comments but there decent ammount of two faced haters
Wtf is happening with us are we just gonna bully a k pop idol till they break and spread false rumors like people who say this stuff are mean as fuck learn how to to deal with shit like this she was chosen deal with it but the fact that she got all that hate and she’s literally just starting like let her live
Poor girl…it’s not her fault she got first place. It’s not her fault if it might have been rigged. Y’all just love to bully young women. I hate to be this person but if this were a man there wouldn’t be a problem.
Kpop stans are so hypocritical. They preach about protecting young idols and not making the same mistakes but continue the toxic cycle of hating on idols that are literal children still mentally developing. Then when something drastic happens to said idol they start crying.
This is never ending cycle of kpop -- first, a super pretty young girl will be selected over talented ones because of pretty privilege. Then she will be hated on for not being THAT deserving. And the cycle continues. till pretty privilege exist, things will never change. It scares the sh*t out of me. Because the adults of the industry or k-ntizeans because of whom this cycle keep repeating itself, each time worse than the prior cycle, will bear no consequences of it.
I feel bad for this girl. Like you may not care about what you say but words can and do have an affect on people. Especially young people like Wonhee who doesn't derseve any of this hate. Obviously people think she doesn't deserve it but all the girls in R U Next deserve to debut. Yes, she may not be as skilled as the rest but she definitely has time and chances to improve.
"she should not debut in such an industry being so young." What abt Newjeans? Yes they did get alot of netizens being concerned for them but still they thrived and ppl don't actually care anymore. Many idols have debuted young, such as Niki, BoA, Taemin, Hyuna, Jisung, Jungkook, Sohyun, Jiyoung, Haeun, Krystal, Kyujin, Somi, and many more artists had debuted before even reaching 16. She should be protected because we have failed to protect the others. These people who joke abt how kids are debuting nowadays clearly don't know that many of their fav kpop idols started even before them. Ofc, I am not hating on any of these idols and people, just saying that this has always been normal in kpop. But just because it is normal doesn't make it alright.
She’s a child! People shouldn’t send her hate just because their fave didn’t get in. Whether the show is rigged or not, she’s still in the debut group now & she doesn’t deserve hate for something she didn’t control.
its like hiyyih all over again, i dont stan Wonhee but i hope everyone thats angry with how she's getting treated will work together to report these hateful comments and users
Now I absolutely think the show was rigged and I absolutely believe that minors should not debut, however, this is just wrong. Hating on someone for something they have no control over is ridiculous and a terrible thing to do. Leave this poor girl alone.
yeah i like her. people are just salty that their fave didn’t make it into the final lineup but she’s indeed pretty and talented and deserves to be in the group. idc what anyone says.
@@user-kys673 Hate is obviously not ok, but how can you say she deserves to be in the group with a straight face when there were multiple even more talented trainees?
@@kpopnimation i don’t get that argument, there’s always gonna be “more talented trainees” but talent isn’t all that’s gonna get you noticed in show business. it’s a specific aura and energy you radiate. it’s also your looks and image. it’s said that judges on kpop auditions know within seconds whether they’re gonna pass you or not because it’s how you carry yourself that really catches people’s eye. when you look at any debuted idol you just know you’re looking at a star. something like that isn’t learned, it’s who you are.
@@user-kys673 it’s not like the other trainees lacked that either. I even dare say that anyone who watched the show can name others who were more interesting on stage than her.
@@kpopnimation okay and? i have my examples too, like hyewon from iz*one who was one of the least charismatic, noticeable and enthusiastic trainees yet ended up in such a popular girl group and is recognized as an idol. bahiyyih from kep1er…like come on. barely any screen time and undeserved spot in the group with much more talented trainees. but guess what, someone saw something in her. it’s up to you whether you recognize these people as talented and deserving enough to be in the group, fact of the matter is they were good enough to someone. you don’t have to understand why wonhee was good enough to me just like i don’t have to understand why hyewon or bahiyyih were good enough to you.
I don't know how fast the netizens changed overnight bro they been hating her for debuted and saying she doesn't deserved to be center, I don't know how it's hard to be in that field...i feel so bad for her, it's not her fault to get debuted and not doing well in encore it's hybe fault to not train them before debut .... 😐
ya'll hate on her how much you want but it's not gonna bring your fav back. i know ppl that are coming for her just cause their fav did make it which makes no fucking sense cause it's hype who's responsible for the elimination.
It's a little deeper than that. Yeah, wanting someone else to debut is a big factor, but another reason she's getting hate is because of what she represents. This whole situation signifies how to many (moronic and shallow) fans, visuals trump everything else, including stuff like ACTUAL SKILLS. Her winning is a crystal clear example of how extreme lookism is in kpop and how frustrating the whole system is. Again, I don't blame her because it's realistically not her fault and hate isn't ok, but it's not hard to see why it bothers people so much. She is the personification of a part of the kpop industry that is broken and spits on the very concept of justice. Her success is a slap in the face and another reminder of how insane the unfairness in this world can be.
Those same person are those who says "wOnHeE oVeR jIwOo sErIoUsLy??? i'm NoT sTaNnInG tHe GrOuP iF sHe Is ThErE" so happy now? Congrats you can now call yourself a bully 👏
it is insane how she’s the punching bag of it all. Iroha is literally younger than her and not really ready for debut either but she doesn’t receive as much hate as wonhee. People just LOVE to pick on people 🙄
Iroha whas actually a good performer, a decent singer and a good dancer. Wonhee in other hand whas the weakest one in all the show, like evey other girl where better and of fcking course, the girl have like 3months of preparation, hybe just see a young girl who look like a 11 yo and say YEAAAH MONEY.
People have a lot of jealousy and hate for beauty. She is so lovely, while maybe a bit inexperienced, and she seems so sweet and strong. I really thought we had learned from the past not to bully idols.
Probably cause Iroha has her dancing skills to fall back on. It’s like Niki from Enhypen. He was 15 too, but had amazing dancing skills so people were able to overlook him being so young. Sadly Wonhee objectively was less talented than some of the contestants who were not picked, and so people are upset. I mean it was obvious what the final line-up would be anyways and that Wonhee was the favorite but she doesn’t deserve this level of hate. There are definitely some that are hating just to pick on someone but majority are mad their bias didn’t make it especially when Wonhee was first even though the other girls chosen for debut are also more talented than her in different fields
It's so unbelievably immature to bully a kid when nothing she did is her fault. I don't have bias for her at all as my top picks were Chanelle, Moka and Jiwoo, but- blame the judges and the show itself, not Wonhee. Yes, other trainees who trained for way longer absolutely deserve their chance and I get being upset, but Wonhee had nothing to do with that. Wonhee's skill and talent grew throughout the show, and she'll hold her own just fine in the group. She had her funny moments, and and she overall seems like a lovely person. On top of that, she's a child and she doesn't deserve death threats. If you're bitter or frustrated with the final lineup (I know I am), just ignore the group. Support whatever your picks are gonna do in the future, find a different group to stan, and ignore Ill-It. Please don't blame Wonhee or any of the girls for things they had no control over, they worked hard to debut too.
So are y'all happy now? After Jennie, Yuna and Wonyoung, you're now bullying a kid. Great. Nice. See how that affects her.
I hope she'll be okay.
u forgot garam
They’ve done a commendable job by bullying and slandering a kid . Let’s clap for them 🙂👏🏻
C'mon it's not her fault she's no 1,i do dislike the fact she debuted this early but it's still not her fault it's the label 🥲
So your forgetting about sulli,goo hara,suga,jhope,rm and jonghyun
@@BeomgyusSandhanitizeryeahh same in our opinion the one to blame is the label and the one who controlled and rigged the votings not the members of the group
I feel so sorry for her its not her fault hybe was being biased towards her
It was fans who voted for her. She had most of the votes to be in the group. So its fans fault bc international fans are hating just bc koreean fans chose her.
@@Havis_Princessbecause international fam vote for excluded. Otherwise she would not have got a chance to debut. Hating on her is stupidity. As it's Hybe who showed favouritism towards her by only including Korean votes. If international fans were included she would not have ended in debut line.
Fans are upset because their favourite were used. But they should hate HYBE for this. Hating a 16 yr old girl is stupidity
@@Havis_Princess yes this is true but we saw how the judges praised her for the bare minimum. WONHEE has a lot of potential but I don't think she should have debuted now where she would receive a ton of hate rather than debuting later when she would be treated better
Yeah
@@Havis_Princessthats not true, corean votes never put her in the top top, this whas obout judgers overvoting her not obout corean fans, also this narrative obout corean fans defending her is not true, most of the comments are against her being the first pick, this whas a shitshow and hybe ruin part of thisgirl debut.
It's the company's fault, they literally rigged the show.
(Edit because replies are going wild.)
Y'all can't understand what you read?
I DIDN'T blame Wonhee, I DON'T hate her. I just said that the show was clearly rigged. Didn't you see the way a grown man looking Wonhee who is a 15 years old MINOR child? It was truly disgusting. It didn't matter how many mistakes Wonhee do, they were sure they're gonna make Wonhee debut. That's called favouritism, and this is clearly Hybe's fault.
How & Why do they rig the show? Bcz contestant's dad pays for the rank lol..
@@SunhaJaethe show was rigged ☠️ every survival show is rigged
The side effects of debuting kids, this is why I was against this, but people who were watching the show for them 20 year old was too old to debut, people voted for her and stop blaming company in everything, it was her parents fault who let her join the show, it was people's fault who supported her, unless and until people stop supporting kids debut they won't stop debuting it, boycott how people start boycott hashtag for apologizing for something they (idols) didn't do it
During the first round of votes wonhee ranked 9th,And she became 1st after the 2nd round of votes which was only open for koreans.. so basically it is rigged.. It was obviois from the start of the show that they wanted wonhee by giving too much screentime for her.. but whatever it is company's fault..noone should hate on a kid who isnt even responsible for this mess
@@justmebeingmeh fr finally someone who understands
Minors or not, they deserve to be respected....I'm so sad to the other girls who didn't debut because they have some supporters that are toxic towards their friend who debuted.
who told you wonhee is their friend? thats creepy assuming stuff
@@Akira-gs4oi the girls in the show like what Chanelle say in her letter along with her mom, lol.
@Akira-gs4oi I voted Jiwoo along Wonhee and my other faves, but I didn't get into some point where I needed to hate others just because they didn't make into final line up. 😊😇
No literally, like, if the other girls saw the hate Wonhee was getting from their fans, which I’m sure they have now, they’d be so disappointed. Wonhee was like everyone’s baby throughout the whole show, it was so clear they all loved her and to see their fans hating on her so much must be devastating and disappointing.
People are just mad that how can a kid who only trained ONE month debuted also on 1st place, and why she got 1st place when she is not that talented, she def have potential, but even if she would've trained 1 year people wouldn't be so mad, the criteria of people's vote for her was only her "pretty and cute face" Nothing else.... She def didn't deserved to debut at least not now.... After 1-2 years then it would've made sense.... People are now criticizing to those who voted for them, they knew she will get hate, they knew some even warning thm not to vote but no use. ..
Can we learn from the past and stop bullying . Yes the show was rigged we understood but leave a kid be she's human she doesn't deserve hate
The side effects of debuting kids, this is why I was against this, but people who were watching the for them 20 year old was too old to debut
@@caratheadarmyoh i agree that debuting kids is problematic even though it has been happening since forever
@@caratheadarmy how many times are you going to spam this
@@patiencecarey3770 unless and until people understand my point because THIS IS SERIOUS
@@caratheadarmybut this has nothing to do with her being a kid. I mean, Iroha is younger than her and she’s fine. It has to do with people not wanting someone who they perceive as “just a pretty face”(which is incredibly wrong, she’s way more than that) to do well.
I DESPISE the show for eliminating Chanelle and Jiwoo but it is completely horrible to hate on the members of the group
yes they didnt do anything wrong too 😭😭🤍
Then disband and let’s support groups that are talented
@@tryme4873what
Fr@@tryme4873
Netizens: [bullies the shit out of Wonhee over a rigged show]
Also Netizens: Nooo omg she doesn’t deserve the hate 🥺🥺
Netizens love Wonhee, they don't hate her.
Global fans didnt really want Wonhee to debut and some of them were the ones hating on her.
That's probably a joke, but in the internet or even in real life there are at least 3 groups of bystanders. One who will hate, one who remains neutral, and one who will help. And all it takes is momentum from either extremes for the neutral group to follow.
Right?! I hate those types of people...
That's damn true 🥲
A classic 0 brain cell comment. It's almost like different people have different opinions on the internet.
How low do people possibly have to stoop to bully a 16-year-old girl?
It's very upsetting. These people are horrible.
It's wrong, and we shouldn't hate on idols, but it's hard to resist when someone's the textbook definition of pretty privilege. I don't blame her. I blame the morons who voted for her and the company. She doesn't deserve hate but at the same time, it was and still is hard to see people who are objectively not as good succeed over those who actually excel without being bitter and jaded, especially if you're emotionally attached and the stakes wereso high.
@@kpopnimationit’s hard to resist hating on a literal minor? There shouldn’t be any excuse to go as far as to bash her for smth she couldn’t control😐I know she probably shouldn’t have been chosen in terms of skill but that’s hybes fault, not hers.
@@kpopnimation'Hard to resist'..?? do you realizing how f*ing stupid and idiotic that sounds? "oH, tHiS gIRl iS pREtTy aNd sHe dEButTeD. lEt'S f*iNg cByErbULly hER!" imagine if that so 'hard to resist' little thing of yours, pushes her off the edge to the point that she wants to harm herself. that's a horrible mentality to have. literally read that comment back and realize how stupid it is. "*it's wrong, and we shouldn't hate idols.* but it's *hard to resist* when someone's the textbook definition of *pretty privilege*" like are you mentally ok?? Wonhee is not just pretty. She's a girl with personality, a girl with a pretty tone of voice, a girl with amazing dancing skills, a girl with friends that love and adore her properties, a girl with great stage presence and expressions, and the list goes on. She's not some little f*ing doll that you can rag doll around, she has feelings, and she's human. Imagine she was your friend, your friend is getting death threats and extreme hate due to 'being pretty' and pursuing her dream. There's a reason why she was scouted, she just has that aura. Not every pretty person in Korea is gonna be scouted.
Look at Wonyoung, she was literally born to be an idol. She has that aura, that presences, a beautiful tone of voice, and a beautiful exterior. JYP himself complimented her on it, saying she's the "Perfect idol". And that's what Wonhee has. Your eyes immediately go to her every time she's on stage, she just shines. Her cuteness just adds onto that. And i'm not comparing the 2 in a malicious way, i'm showing off how it's not just your skills that are needed to be an idol. Sure, it's obviously extremely important to be able to dance and sing, but also having that presence, expressions, personality, aura, etc. Look at produce 48, the girls that didn't make it were the ones who lacked certain aspects of a stage maker. Sure they had the skills, but did they bring it on stage? No not really. I'm not trying to bring the girls down because they did amazing, I just feel they could add a little more emotion into it.
To some, this trait takes time. To others, it's a given talent.
the reason I didn't wanted wonhee to debut bcz I knew she will be hated a lot and she is too young but now I want everyone to protect her.
let's accept the result and support the current members if not want to support them then let's not even hate them.
and we can wish for our fav who were able to make it to be at even a nicer place
let's support wonhee and others
But isn't Iroha the youngest?
@@HibaChaudhry yes iroha is youngest but wonhee is young too she is also just 15
I wont hate on wonhee but wont support this group either
@@justmebeingmeh this is better option same goes for me I m not gonna stan them either bcz i m still mad about jiwoo not debuting
Agree!!
Kpop stans : We need to protect minors!!!
Also kpop stans : harass & send death threats to minors for no reason (like with wonyoung two years ago)
I knew this was coming, if it was wonhee or any other contestant (with whom hybe was biased) they would have got hate, it's totally hybe's mistake, the whole show was literally rigged and I don't understand like didn't they realise tht she would receive alot of hate? like many international fans were literally giving full signs tht the whole group and specially wonhee would receive hate and she is literally 15 (ig she is 16 now? idk) tbh she doesn't deserves this hate, it's not her mistake
and I even feel like she knew she would receive hate, we all know it was kinda shocking she ranked first but hating on her isn't going to help either 🤷♀️
It wasn't her fault oh yeah it was her parents fault who let her join the show, it was those people's fault who voted her and also supported her, it was also hybe fault.... People who were watching the show said a 20 year old is too old to debut, they didn't voted for those talented girls, look at theri line up more than 2 members are minors
Yes because HYBE has been holding people at gunpoint to harass her every day and send her dts lol. It's the RUNEXT fandom's fault as well, because they were all about protect the minors. it was bullsht at the end, but who's surprised? nobody
@@caratheadarmyShe wants to become an idol, it’s not anyone’s fault but Hybe. You can’t blame her parents for allowing her to go on the show while hybe literally rigged the show in the first place, it doesn’t make any sense. People should hate hybe for debuting her when there were far better contestants not wonhee just because she got debuted in the first place😐
If I see Wonhee change I will never forgive anyone. She might’ve not been your pick but she still is gonna debut and people need to get over it. Lets make her feel accepted and included ❤❤
Wonhee doesn't deserve those haters
The side effects of debuting kids, this is why I was against this, but people who were watching the for them 20 year old was too old to debut
she dont deserve that win too
@@imDk125 whyyyyy do you have a reason and I am not trying too be rude I am sorry if it looks like I am being rude
@@i-am-CrystalShe’s comparatively less deserving and has less developed talent. Yes, she’s a sweetheart and I with many other people do think she deserves to debut, just not in this group. Can’t do anything abt it tho.
@@stantxtstraykidsandseventeen ok ok I respect your opinion
I don't know her, but seeing her like that breaks my heart 💔
There were people better than her, so it was surprising to everyone that she was debuting but please dont do hate comments because she is only a kid and this is not her fault, lets support our little Wonhee❤❤ i hope she is okay
The side effects of debuting kids, this is why I was against this, but people who were watching the for them 20 year old was too old to debut
You're not obligated to support her just out of pity. Just staying out of her way is the best option if you believe that she didn't deserve that place. Don't get me wrong, I feel super angry for the fact that she debuted instead of Jiwoo and Chanelle with 0% real experience but still I don't hate her because I know it's not her fault. It's 100% HYBE's fault for debuting minors just because of favoritism. It was so cringe watching judges like Lee Hyun and the other old woman smiling like idiots because of "how cute Wonhee was" while blindly ignoring huge mistakes...another show that proves beauty is over talent in that shitty industry
@@jinmyluvExactly! in this cases I think the best way to avoid this is for them to confront the problem front and clear and for the agency to come front and own they reserved the admition of the members rights because the concept they wanted for the group.
And we liked it or not, it seems she did not "winned" her place, she was debuted because other people "gave her" the place, she did not asked that for but she acepted it and tooks all the benefits so this is the concecuences of her own actions, pointing thay is not hate, is stating an uncomfortable "truth" or opinion that given the scale of the benefits is understable the level of that kind of comments are gong to be there.
She isn't a kid. She was 16 and kids are 12
Hybe and JTBC should have seen this come already during the show, yet they ignored it and continued to favoritize and eventually rig the show for her, when they realized the favoritism didn't work.
They better have the proper tools to help her dealing with all of this, because regardless of how people say "hate the show/company not the idols" there's going to be a lot of people who ignores this and will target her directly.
I personally am really angry and disappointed, which I'm going to express, I'm not going to become a fan of the group, only be a casual listener, since I do like Yunah, Minju and Youngseo + I at least trust Hybe to give them good music
But I'm going to express my anger, in hope of making sure it NEVER happens again.
I won't be targeting her, however I am very much going to ignore her.
I have no interest in her after taking another contestants spot.
She could have been so talented and well loved, if only they had given her a couple of years training before debuting, but they absolutely had to ruin it for her.
The side effects of debuting kids, this is why I was against this, but people who were watching the show for them 20 year old was too old to debut
@caratheadarmy
In reality, her being a minor is simply the top of the iceberg.
In reality, we are dealing with a "pretty privilege" and a potential "Nepo baby" which is why Wonhee is so much more disliked compared to Iroha.
And while, yes, visuals do mean a lot within K-pop, there's absolutely no denying it. It isn't enough for an idol to claim or defend a spot, especially during a survival show.
Specially a minor would need something to defend themselves when debuting.
For instance, Niki of Enhypen, Niki was young, however the outrage of him being so young was very small and almost non existing, because he could at least defend himself with his dancing skills
In the same way we have Iroha, Iroha isn't nearly as much criticized as Wonhee, because she is at least known for her dancing. Is her dancing actually that good? No, she has a tendency to overdance and get a hold on herself, but she is well on her way to becoming main dancer material.
Like Wonhee, give Iroha a year or two, and she could have debuted with proper vocals and a main dancer position.
@@dharling97 i do agree with all your points, but this really doesn't change the fact that companies are obsessed with kids and debuting them and people are also supporting them blindly, imagine if that 12 year old girl debuted and she got hate, how badly that will affect her, but since she got eliminated I was kinda relived, but still, Parents are at the fault here, it's their fault for letting their child join the industry and let them debut, people are also so obsessed for them 21 year old is too old to debut like really!... People should boycott debuting kids then only companies will stop, otherwise the more they'll see support the more they'll debut, also the effect these kids are leaving on other normal kids are also not good, and on top of that, since kids minds aren't developed, some kids around me who are watching these kids and kpop idols start saying why am I not pretty like them, talented than them, why am I so fat, now you tell is it good for a kid to become insecure at such young age, they started starving themselves... Like wtf... This is really not good
@@dharling97I've watched and analyzed every fan-cam of Iroha and she's a good dancer. In the world of professionals, her energy is completely normal.
@@MegaAbalui dunno. i agree that shes talented but her control isnt very good. i saw this in the money and bang! performances.
Omg she was trying so hard not to cry and so hard to smile and act like she was fine..it breaks my heart..
The people who are bullying Wonhee are the same people who are "concerned" about debuting young idols. At this point they're just using the excuse of being "concerned" or her being "talentless" to hate her because Jiwoo or Chanelle didn't debut
THISSSS
I don't know why staff allow idols to read those messages. They should have a staff member select questions or comments sent by the fans and read them.
I agree
because seeing wonhee get upset from all the hate that she's getting is exactly what hybe wants. they want to garner sympathy at the expense of wonhee's mental health. i didn't agree with wonhee debuting cause i think it's still too early for her but she doesn't deserve the hate she's getting.
@@mydaycaratbaby this video is from September 2023 way before they duet go take your bs somewhere else b
@@user-jm6gt9fh4i so the hate she got predebut just doesn't exist? she was already under a lot of heat before their debut because people were saying she doesn't deserve to debut. my point still stands lol
Moka and Wonhee made me watch 'Magnetic' on repeat. No one to blame. Just support those who successfully debut.
I feel bad for her
Wonhee is definitely not ready but she doesn't deserve all that hate. Especially since she's just a kid. And by the times goes by, she'll definitely get better so stop hating on her, instead hate on the judges
She isn't a kid. She was 16. Kids are 12
@@Tita591A kid is a minor are they not?
I personally don’t think Wonhee should’ve debuted, but sending hate comments to a child because she got a spot you think someone else should’ve gotten is ridiculously immature. If you’re gonna blame anyone for the show being rigged it should be HYBE.
yeah, because the idols definitely choose to rigg the shows and who it's in favor of, obvious rational reaction
im the same age as her it makes me upset to see people be so weird about her, recently there was a post on weverse where someone was hoping she'll end up like sulli too ☠️☠️☠️☠️ so fucking weird and disrespectful
she seems really sweet and her singing is great, while it would've been better if she got more training before debuting there's nothing we can do about it now so i just hope she'll grow into an amazing idol
yes! there were contestants that would’ve been better, but people are acting like wonhee brings nothing to the group, and that’s simply not true. i wish that she hadn’t debuted so young and that she had more training, but i hope that she finds success and happiness!
I don't like how people are saying not to bully her because she's young. It's like saying if she was an adult it would be okay. I get people don't like kids debuting, but even if they were adults it would still be hard. Kids and adults can still take things badly, just because someone's older doesn't mean they're not going to feel bad. Why do people only worry about the kids?
My baby gal take heart we're gonna overcome this
so people really think they will change thing while hating on a 16 YEAR OLD KID,like wow,congrats to all smart ones who do it!
Let her alone and be happy she made it to debut,while protesting you wont change anything,you will just ruin her life,your favs cant be back,better hope for them to debut anywhere else then hate the one who already debuted
Poor Wonhee. She didn’t even deserve the amount of hate. Why are they hating on a minor?? The people who sent messages like that are absurd for hating a minor. It’s not her fault that she won
Don't let your love for your bias overshadow human decency.
"Sometimes people forget that they're a human too. Just cry it out, we're here for you. "
-a wise man
People are so rude. You are allowed to have an opinion but keep in mind that she is a child. Haters are making it worse for her and she continue to grow and improve. I feel the same about jiwoo debuting but i will not go and throw hate and won bc she doesn't deserve hate at all. They need to know that people have feelings and these idols are real people and will be affected by what you say
If shes too young to get hate then shes too young to debut,im not excusing the hate or hating on her,but if her parent didnt care enough to Shield her why should we?
@@f-line5584 bc some parents are uneducated or neglectful. you don’t know what her personal life is like
Y’all weren’t satisfied with getting Garam kicked out right after her debut, now you’re aiming for Wonhee too? Please get a life
i can’t keep seeing this happen to idols. it’s sickening, she’s so young
Spread the word
#Protectmaknaes they need our help the most! ❤
She's so cute omg.. i bet she will be the next wonyoung, hater will be hater, keep fighting wonhee
i know y'all didn't want wonhee to debut but now she is and pls support her and don't hate on her
Jungkook and many other idols were young when they debuted. Can you all like stop hating on anyone just to make yourselves feel better? This world is already full of hate, jealously and negativity. We need more love, understanding, kindness, peace and positivity. Now more than ever. We already lost many idols due to hate. It's time to stop!!!!
What you said is correct, however, it's hard to resist when someone's the textbook definition of pretty privilege and we had to see people who deserved her spot/career more get screwed over. I don't blame her. I blame the shallow idiots who voted for her and the company. It's not her fault and I don't think she should get hate. But it's hard to see people who are objectively not as good succeed over those who actually excel without being bitter and jaded.
meanwhile Seowon of Unis, who is 13 years old, debuted flawlessly
But seowon has been trained for this since she was a small child. Leave her alone pls
Wonhee only had a few months of training. You're also proving yourself to be not any better than those f*ing weirdos who are sending death threats and hating on a 15 year old.
You cannot shut your mouth can you? She's literally a child have some fcking compassion weirdo.
@@viv_26.19and what does that tell you? 1. idols shouldn't debut so young 2. wonhee should train more 3. hybe is at fault here 100%
Ppl never learn from the past.
So true so true, like still they suport kids debut
How can y’all hate on this kid?! She’s dope!
Because she is leagues behind other contestants who deserve to be here instead of her.
Why they never stop hating and hurting? This is so sad
she is perfect, she hasn't care about haters
she has so much love by others
She looks really young. The company should be monitoring and not letting them see comments. Its the company's responsibility!
this!!!
Can y’all just stop cyber bullying they’re not dolls and if your saying wonhee is talentless then are you more talented than her honestly this is just making her have depression soon after wonyoung and Jennie and yuna now her imagine being a talentless guy judging them
Fast forward to their debut now. Hybe made an amazing choice. She shines so much in their debut song magnetic
Haters will hate! F**k all them haters
It's wrong, and we shouldn't hate on idols, but you also have to understand that it's hard to resist when someone's the textbook definition of pretty privilege. I don't blame her. I blame the morons who voted for her and the company. She doesn't deserve hate but at the same time, it was and still is hard to see people who are objectively not as good succeed over those who actually excel without being bitter and jaded, especially if you're emotionally attached and the stakes were so high.
It wasn’t her fault the show was rigged we should really not bully her cause of it we should be welcoming and respectful towards all of them including wonhee
It broke my heart seeing her on the verge of tears we should learn from the past and stop this while we can
I hope wonhee will be ok!! Ive already seen so much people that realized their mistakes and apologized and decided to stan them. In their next live lets flood the comments with love for her so that she doesnt have to feel down. If i were wonhee i would have cried on the spot when reading those hate comments. Wonhee is strong and i know she wont let these haters bring her down 아일릿 파이팅~🩵🩵🩵🤍🤍🤍
they do realize that Wonhee didn't CHOOSE to debut right? she's just a kid who has a dream and went for it, whether or not she debuted wasn't up to her whatsoever within these circumstances. there's a reason why companies get away with this and it's mainly due to people blaming and slamming the WRONG person.
Idk about the other members but I find her the most interesting in the group. She's the reason why I even watch some of their videos without being a fan of the group.
That's a clear sign of depression. I hope she doesn't do anything bad to her self
I knew this would happen, I talked to my friends who I watched the show with about this happening before it did. Thankfully, since it’s Weverse, those people will all be banned from the community. People need to remember she’s not a fault for winning the show. She didn’t choose win, she worked for it. I really hope these comments don’t affect her too much, she’s so cute and bubbly, I don’t want that to go away. She’s so young and has so much potential, I don’t want her to lose all her newfound confidence. I can’t believe people actually thinking hating on someone, especially so visibly, is okay. Wonhee and I’LL IT fighting!
Why so many people don't want her debut? She's the most stable vocalist in the group, her performance in debut song is 1st! So good!
meanwhile Lim Seowon debuting soloist in 10 yrs old and now in unis 13 yrs old
People have hurt so many kpop artist….
Jennie,Yuna,Wonyoung,Garam,Soojin,and now a child.U guys gotta stop,my heart goes out 2 these girls :(
It's the judges fault and the show for being biased to her. They literally made her the "punching bag" for debuting her so early in her training. Knetz are notorious for faulting idols that are not good enough. And international fans are bitter for ignoring the well trained trainees. It's bound to happen she just needs to strengthen her mindset and mentally, And show knetz and international netizens na she deserves and she will improve more in the coming months or years of her career to shut the haters and so they can learn to appreciate her. Plus never show that attitude of "I'm not good" (like her with Chanelle dividing parts) again.
Y’all shouldn’t come and act like you feel pity when you know you were hating as well. Hypocrites
Oh I def was hating but I would never post negative comments towards her or anyone else. People are so immature, why can’t they just keep it to themselves
Even if i didnt like the debut line i would choose to just ignore because what is the point of sending hate? It does nothing but hurt the idol.
We can't stop companies from debuting minors.
But we can stop ourselves from hating them 💯
I feel bad for wonhee shes a very good visual that has a good dance and angelic voice !♡
I understand people are disappointed and mad because channelle, jiwoo and their bias in are u next are not debuted, but, I feel bad for this girl... I always see in every wonhee video's netizens always critized and give a hate comment for her (sorry for my bad English)
STOP BULLYING
btw I don't watch this survival show, but I watch many clips video of them :-)
@@purplecake2303same, but I saw the performances and jiwoo, chanelle realllyyyy deserved to be debuted like REALLY, their stage presence, vocals, rap was literally so good, but they didn't and many international fans LOVED both of them and they already knew kfans were gonna vote for wonhee, but chanelle's and jiwoo's elimination was a huge shock for i-fans so they are comparing wonhee and both of them, coz of tht she is recieving hate :(
she is talented but she needs to be trained more imo, and I think she really didn't deserve to be rank first (not hating just saying) and even tht was like a shock for i-fans
@@wooyoroll yess I am agree... I think it's company's fault, not wonhee. Like, why you guys wasted talented girls and ragged the show??? This is why I don't like watching survival show
You can see th e pain and hurt in the baby's eyes 👀 😢
While I do believe she shouldn’t be in the group, I really think it’s sad that people can’t acknowledge and respect the fact that she showed an INSANE amount of growth over the course of the show and deserves acknowledgement for that. Ultimately she is still talented and doesn’t deserve hate.
she’s a literal kid, can we let this poor girl do her thing and live her life? things the companies do to these idols isn’t the idols fault nor do they have any control over it. it’s not right the idols take responsibility and criticism for the companies actions. i mean hating on innocent idols is one thing but literal teenagers who are barley out of highschool is a new level of disgusting.
comments and online bullying like this has lead to countless deaths and harming incidents, it’s important we do our best to support and protect these idols.
No. We should not support them. Bullying is not right, but we should not support idols like her because this means companies will see that debuting underskilled yet pretty idols earning fame and money and keep screwing over talented trainees like Jiwoo. The best thing to do is not to support them, but ignore. Bullying is wrong, but we still need a way to show that talent should triumph over visuals and “cuteness”
@@kpopnimation yeah, but is it their faults they don’t have better vocal coaches?? maybe instead of hating the idols we should be encouraging them to do better. the company are the ones who should be taking action and making sure the girls get the right vocal training. if they continue to show lack of vocal skill and prove to us they aren’t making an effort is when we can start to truly hold them accountable for their actions they are now causing. i do think their vocals could use work and they definitely do NOT meet up to the standards, but i definitely won’t go around bashing underaged idols for it.
I never voted for wonhee n preferrred other members. I am bummed my dream lineup didnt debut but no way in hell would I bully this girl bv of a company issue. She is still talented even if she is fully ready but she will improve n i wish her the best of luck. Also alot of fans who say they "blame the company" let out their frustration on wonhee subtly, indirectly or even give backhanded comments to wonhee, not all fans do that, there are fans who actually care for her but believe she wasnt ready n dont send hate comments or back handed comments but there decent ammount of two faced haters
Wtf is happening with us are we just gonna bully a k pop idol till they break and spread false rumors like people who say this stuff are mean as fuck learn how to to deal with shit like this she was chosen deal with it but the fact that she got all that hate and she’s literally just starting like let her live
Lov how she keeps her composure its evident shes sad but also she knw exactly not to feed into it and exactly giv in to the critics
I mean I’m pretty sure that’s what she’s meant to do as an idol/celebrity…
Poor girl…it’s not her fault she got first place. It’s not her fault if it might have been rigged. Y’all just love to bully young women. I hate to be this person but if this were a man there wouldn’t be a problem.
I bet if she cried after winning should I would have been called a pick me girl
Wonhee fighting!!! We love you!!!❤🍀
Wonhee stands out. She is so cute!!
Kpop stans are so hypocritical. They preach about protecting young idols and not making the same mistakes but continue the toxic cycle of hating on idols that are literal children still mentally developing. Then when something drastic happens to said idol they start crying.
This is never ending cycle of kpop -- first, a super pretty young girl will be selected over talented ones because of pretty privilege. Then she will be hated on for not being THAT deserving. And the cycle continues. till pretty privilege exist, things will never change. It scares the sh*t out of me. Because the adults of the industry or k-ntizeans because of whom this cycle keep repeating itself, each time worse than the prior cycle, will bear no consequences of it.
She isn’t just pretty though, she’s got a lot of potential and is already quite good?
@@Sanas_Shy_Language yes, I agree on that, but we all know she wasn't selected on basis of her potential.
Poor Wonhee, nobody deserves hate, especially when the person did nothing wrong!!
I feel bad for this girl. Like you may not care about what you say but words can and do have an affect on people. Especially young people like Wonhee who doesn't derseve any of this hate. Obviously people think she doesn't deserve it but all the girls in R U Next deserve to debut. Yes, she may not be as skilled as the rest but she definitely has time and chances to improve.
Wonhee is so cute come on.
"she should not debut in such an industry being so young."
What abt Newjeans? Yes they did get alot of netizens being concerned for them but still they thrived and ppl don't actually care anymore. Many idols have debuted young, such as Niki, BoA, Taemin, Hyuna, Jisung, Jungkook, Sohyun, Jiyoung, Haeun, Krystal, Kyujin, Somi, and many more artists had debuted before even reaching 16. She should be protected because we have failed to protect the others. These people who joke abt how kids are debuting nowadays clearly don't know that many of their fav kpop idols started even before them. Ofc, I am not hating on any of these idols and people, just saying that this has always been normal in kpop. But just because it is normal doesn't make it alright.
And Chiquita
I don't want her to be criticized like wonny 😢
i feel so awful for her, she’s so young and getting this treatment :( i hope she can succeed and not let these comments get to her
She’s a child! People shouldn’t send her hate just because their fave didn’t get in. Whether the show is rigged or not, she’s still in the debut group now & she doesn’t deserve hate for something she didn’t control.
its like hiyyih all over again, i dont stan Wonhee but i hope everyone thats angry with how she's getting treated will work together to report these hateful comments and users
I'm happy Wonhee debuted ❤❤❤
Now I absolutely think the show was rigged and I absolutely believe that minors should not debut, however, this is just wrong. Hating on someone for something they have no control over is ridiculous and a terrible thing to do. Leave this poor girl alone.
How is it her fault the other girl didn't make it? This is why people say the KPop fans are the most toxic ones on the planet
wonhee fighting! im rooting for u! let these haters hate! u are very talented and very beautiful and u deserved it! let these losers cry instead
yeah i like her. people are just salty that their fave didn’t make it into the final lineup but she’s indeed pretty and talented and deserves to be in the group. idc what anyone says.
@@user-kys673 Hate is obviously not ok, but how can you say she deserves to be in the group with a straight face when there were multiple even more talented trainees?
@@kpopnimation i don’t get that argument, there’s always gonna be “more talented trainees” but talent isn’t all that’s gonna get you noticed in show business. it’s a specific aura and energy you radiate. it’s also your looks and image. it’s said that judges on kpop auditions know within seconds whether they’re gonna pass you or not because it’s how you carry yourself that really catches people’s eye. when you look at any debuted idol you just know you’re looking at a star. something like that isn’t learned, it’s who you are.
@@user-kys673 it’s not like the other trainees lacked that either. I even dare say that anyone who watched the show can name others who were more interesting on stage than her.
@@kpopnimation okay and? i have my examples too, like hyewon from iz*one who was one of the least charismatic, noticeable and enthusiastic trainees yet ended up in such a popular girl group and is recognized as an idol. bahiyyih from kep1er…like come on. barely any screen time and undeserved spot in the group with much more talented trainees. but guess what, someone saw something in her. it’s up to you whether you recognize these people as talented and deserving enough to be in the group, fact of the matter is they were good enough to someone. you don’t have to understand why wonhee was good enough to me just like i don’t have to understand why hyewon or bahiyyih were good enough to you.
she doesn’t deserve this hate :(
she’ll improve over time
So y'all are bullying a minor for not crying when she debuted 💀💀
Her label and hybe shouldn't have given her the no. 1 spot . I feel bad that she is the one who's facing the criticism now.
I don't know how fast the netizens changed overnight bro they been hating her for debuted and saying she doesn't deserved to be center, I don't know how it's hard to be in that field...i feel so bad for her, it's not her fault to get debuted and not doing well in encore it's hybe fault to not train them before debut .... 😐
If "child labour" is a crime then why "minors debuting" isn't ILLEGAL 🤨😑
Bro she's so nice too why do people do this to others
The fact that people on twitter are literally wishing for her to end up like Sulli is absurd💀
Wait for real nah they went too far😢
ya'll hate on her how much you want but it's not gonna bring your fav back. i know ppl that are coming for her just cause their fav did make it which makes no fucking sense cause it's hype who's responsible for the elimination.
It's a little deeper than that. Yeah, wanting someone else to debut is a big factor, but another reason she's getting hate is because of what she represents. This whole situation signifies how to many (moronic and shallow) fans, visuals trump everything else, including stuff like ACTUAL SKILLS. Her winning is a crystal clear example of how extreme lookism is in kpop and how frustrating the whole system is. Again, I don't blame her because it's realistically not her fault and hate isn't ok, but it's not hard to see why it bothers people so much. She is the personification of a part of the kpop industry that is broken and spits on the very concept of justice. Her success is a slap in the face and another reminder of how insane the unfairness in this world can be.
She should have even wonhee herself was shocked it was SO unfair
Those same person are those who says "wOnHeE oVeR jIwOo sErIoUsLy??? i'm NoT sTaNnInG tHe GrOuP iF sHe Is ThErE" so happy now? Congrats you can now call yourself a bully 👏
it is insane how she’s the punching bag of it all. Iroha is literally younger than her and not really ready for debut either but she doesn’t receive as much hate as wonhee. People just LOVE to pick on people 🙄
Iroha whas actually a good performer, a decent singer and a good dancer.
Wonhee in other hand whas the weakest one in all the show, like evey other girl where better and of fcking course, the girl have like 3months of preparation, hybe just see a young girl who look like a 11 yo and say YEAAAH MONEY.
People have a lot of jealousy and hate for beauty. She is so lovely, while maybe a bit inexperienced, and she seems so sweet and strong.
I really thought we had learned from the past not to bully idols.
Probably cause Iroha has her dancing skills to fall back on. It’s like Niki from Enhypen. He was 15 too, but had amazing dancing skills so people were able to overlook him being so young. Sadly Wonhee objectively was less talented than some of the contestants who were not picked, and so people are upset. I mean it was obvious what the final line-up would be anyways and that Wonhee was the favorite but she doesn’t deserve this level of hate. There are definitely some that are hating just to pick on someone but majority are mad their bias didn’t make it especially when Wonhee was first even though the other girls chosen for debut are also more talented than her in different fields
It's so unbelievably immature to bully a kid when nothing she did is her fault. I don't have bias for her at all as my top picks were Chanelle, Moka and Jiwoo, but- blame the judges and the show itself, not Wonhee. Yes, other trainees who trained for way longer absolutely deserve their chance and I get being upset, but Wonhee had nothing to do with that.
Wonhee's skill and talent grew throughout the show, and she'll hold her own just fine in the group. She had her funny moments, and and she overall seems like a lovely person. On top of that, she's a child and she doesn't deserve death threats. If you're bitter or frustrated with the final lineup (I know I am), just ignore the group. Support whatever your picks are gonna do in the future, find a different group to stan, and ignore Ill-It. Please don't blame Wonhee or any of the girls for things they had no control over, they worked hard to debut too.
I feel so bad like she’s still a kid leave her alone
she's the cutest one in illit