The Trans Penguins of Madagascar Episode
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You should analyze Trans Xenoblade characters.
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could you tell me where you got that Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space COMMUNISM poster?
the idea that the penguins themselves do not know is a documented phenomena, with a lot of penguins unsure or unbothered with the sex of another penguin
They don't care about THE sex OF another penguin. All they care about is sex with another penguin.
Panguins
@@ARandomMinecraftVillager genius
I cannot believe we live in a timeline where the words “Trans” and “Penguins of Madagascar” actually make sense in a sentence.
I've been waiting for this for so long, I left comments on her videos about it almost a month ago.
In several, if you know of a certain Joey and King Julien fanfiction.
It doesn't, unless you are an insane person. Like everyone here that takes this weirdo seriously.
@@HailEarendilI don't think you watched the video. The trans episode is the name of the series, sure it can be a bit clickbait but that doesn't constitute calling someone insane or a weirdo.
@@FrostedGalaxies I don't care what degens have to say about anything.
As a young trans boy, before I knew I was indeed a boy, I think the scene of Skipper being blindfolded and picking a "gendered" image at random was seared into my brain. I think it was one of the first times I truly began to realise how ridiculous and pointlessly gendered EVERYTHING is.
People really like to separate things into groups for some reason.
frrrr
@@TJ-hg6op Yep. Doesn't matter how mundane something is. People will always try to group it & persecute it. It's like the whole casual gamers vs competitive gamers thing where people act like a game can't be casual & competitive at the same time & you're somehow the scum of the earth if you want it to be. It's a video game.
@@TJ-hg6opthat's how our brains naturally work
@@alt2137plyes, and it’s going to drive your species to extinction.
Watched this show religiously growing up, and as for this episode I got the impression that the machine was wrong, as that sometimes happened in other episodes. Child me was very content to accept one of the penguins was biologically female and no one knew who or cared, which may have been because I was dealing with similar struggles in my own life.
Also can I just say Marlene put up with so much shit in this show I always felt so bad for her
Marlene is so good, she was absolutely one of my favourite female characters of all time in animated shows and movies. And yeah, I need to second this notion. The Guys are written as somewhat unreliable, that's a part of their characters. They are hectic, they are a mess, they are sometimes unhinged, they sometimes say the wrong things, do the wrong things and might not even learn the main lesson at the very end, but they "get the job done". As a kid, I knew that I shouldn't look up to them as actual role models, and I'm sure that many kids still understood that. I think the actual messages from these episodes still are obvious to children, even though the main characters are too *specific* with their mindset to understand.
Yeah I definitely appreciate Marlene now more than I did when I first watched it, she was truly one of the only reasonable characters
Marlene is one of the only sane characters on the show, surrounded by idiots. The only other sane person is Maurice who has to deal with all of King Julian's and Morty's shit. Both Marlene and Maurice have it rough
It made me so angry the way noone appreciated marlene and it was often the punchline. I know its true to life but it isnt funny its annoying. Maybe it was funny to someone else and they were able to laugh at the penguins for being so dumb but for me it hit too close to home
I think one thing that's worth considering about this episode is that the penguins are quite often Extremely Mistaken about things, so their failure to pick up on the feminist lesson Marlene gives shouldn't be read as the episode itself diminishing its importance.
Yep, Penguins being terribly wrong about rectain concepts was always part of the show's humor, add the fact that Marlene is usually the voice of reason and you realize the show handled it quite well in it's own way
Yeah there's a lot of episodes where they accuse someone of being a spy or make an evil device by accident
I did not realize how hyperfixated I was on this show as a kid before this video came out, but as its Coming Back To Me 100% this. the penguins are all idiots and 90% of the episodes sum up to "they do something stupid, get themselves into trouble, and stumble out accidentally and learn nothing." marlene very specifically I remember being a Voice Of Reason character who was almost always in the right about the actually message of the episode, the comedy comes in the penguins being unable to process the actual intelligent stuff she is saying - while the audience agrees with her. the penguins were never the people you were supposed to agree with by the end.
@@kiriki4558 if the joke is that silly person is clearly wrong, the narrative is not siding with silly person
I don't think "they're idiots" is a good enough reason to get away with silencing women's voices without repercussion.
i renember watching this show seeing this trope and being like "bro why whould he change how he acts just because he descovered he's a girl, i would just brush it off like a minor incovenience" i was an trans aly even without knowing what was a trans person 💀
I always had a pretty similar view of gender, thought other people cared way too much about it.
Turns out that cis people aren't typically that ambivalent about gender.
Yeah but like I think what happened is that Skipper was feeling alienated and dysphoric so he had a crisis and acted out on the ways that he thought he should because the penguins have always been really dumb and he was just trying to understand his role and how he thought it changed.
Not everyone acts like that about gender but many people who have gender insecurities (like skipper did for the first time in his life) will perform unnecessary gender performances for everyone around them to try and belong and make sense, ik many women cis and trans, who wear makeup and dresses and such purely out of insecurity and trying to keep up an act of feeling like they belong when they actually feel that they don't belong.
I remember being a trans egg artist and thinking "well idk why I'm different and why I haven't grown out of hating myself yet like everyone else but I should try really hard to make a sona (a character that represents you almost like a mascot) and I did and it was really weird just trying to pretend to belong but feeling like I didn't, like my own head separated the character from me as it was it's own person and I was thinking it was just gonna happen at some point and it would be fine, like when kids dress differently to try and belong when they have late puberty and everyone else is changing before them. Ik he acts extreme and cartoonish but gender crisis can really make a clown out of anyone.
Given Koalski's attempts to hide the results from skipper in the first place its also not out of the question that he purposefully made the test run a false positive in order to affirm skippers expressed gender so that skipper would no longer be distressed.
i like this. it’s canon.
so true that penguin is trans
That would explain the zoo-keeper saying one of them is female when Kowalski's test said they're all male in the end.
Ok, i haven't watched the vid & i wanted to guess the episode by reading comments. I watched this show as a kid. Ur comment gave me eureka moment
Thx, now i remember!
Yeah, I thought the ending was sus even as a kid
I so wish they ended the episode fading out on the machine with one more spark of electricity, suggesting it might be wrong. "one of the penguins is trans and we dont know which" is such a joyous idea
Kowalski's experiments have been known to be very inaccurate, so it's likely that one of the penguins is indeed trans.
or if it turned out that the machine just put a plus for everyone and they have to accept not knowing everyone's biological sex
@@HauntakuTV Lets be honest, Rico's trans
@@HauntakuTVI personally head cannon Private as trans but that might just be because I relate to him the most as a trans guy
@@trixxart777 it takes balls to admit you relate to the weak character
Penguins can tell each others gender. Homosexuality is just relatively common in birds overall compared to other animals.
exactly why i love birds (theyre silly)
I mean, Have you seen female birds? Can't blame the birds
okuu spotted
@@jesusramirezromo2037LMAO got a chuckle out of me
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I honestly took it as one of them actually being canonically female, but it just ultimately didn't matter. Between the methods being unreliable, the fact that the zookeeper would probably know that kind of thing, the overall lesson from the otter lady, and Skipper dismissing the zookeeper as stupid clearly being portrayed as wrong, that's what I took away from the episode.
isn't that what she took too? y'all said the same thing lol
It could just be how the biology of sex is more complex than XX and XY
I would like to mention that the male penguins showing guys can like feminine things is shown through out the series like private being into cute things and tea parties and his favorite show is a unicorn show. And Rico loves playing with his Barbie doll
Uhmm ... that's not JUST his Barbie Doll... it's his girlfriend 🙄
/s
@@ClaireMakesVidsum . . . no /s, Rico was disturbingly in love with that doll.
@nicholasfarrell5981 You're not wrong lmao
Isn’t it played for laughs though?
Ah, I remember this. I remember being confused why they were upset that one of them was a girl. I loved how Skipper wad just like “welp, guess I’m girl”.
Also I would like the say the “All Hail King Julian” was a LOT more gay. if you’d like to keep your sanity, don’t look into. if I’m remembering correctly there was a lesbian that got with Mort because I believe he was every gender at once. I can’t get back into Mort lore, it’s too much.
Mort Lore is an incredible term
mort lore is too demonic for mortal comprehension
The thought of Mort being the manifestation of all genders is hilarious and terrifying because if we take his lore into consideration it could absolutely be canon
Mort just absorbs the genders of all his alternate universe selves
Mort is like having DID but actually whole ass other universe Mort souls inside of him. Also he has like 12 dead wives and is haunted by his evil cannibal grandma or something.
In one of Madagascar's many spin-offs, they actually had a Pride-themed episode that featured an okapi who was coded as nonbinary and voiced by a nonbinary person. It's pretty cool that children's shows have gotten better with representation, but also kinda funny that such good rep is coming from a franchise that has been milked to the point that this aspect is really the only thing worth mentioning about the show lol
yooo my favorite mammals are okapis!! That's super cool
Listen Audrey you can't just say that and leave without at least dropping the name of the spin-off and where to watch it 😂
@@khalakrean6890 Don't know if my original reply went through, but it's called Madagascar: A Little Wild. It's available on Hulu and Peacock, with individual episodes able to be rented on services like CZcams. As far as I know, the nonbinary character only appears in Season 3 Episode 6. I haven't watched the show myself and to be honest, haven't seen much from the Madagascar franchise, but this is one of those prequel shows where all the characters are kid versions of themselves and Wikipedia says the Penguins and King Julien don't appear at all, so my hopes aren't high for it.
Dancing with ribbon is called “Rhythmic Gymnastics”.
And it doesn't even have to be a ribbon either. I saw someone use a bowling ball for one of their sets once
@@randyjake6226 that sounds impressive.
Is there a name for fighting with one?
@@emilia8706I guess it's "rhythmic fighting"
@@randyjake6226 I believe there are several events (like five or something) and one event is the ribbon one
I think Skipper being sexist is a joke on how he just has no idea what girls are supposed to do or act like. He's just completely delusional and I think it's actually really funny to see him act like an idiot trying to match what he wrongly thinks women are.
I'll elaborate a bit. Skipper's sexist jokes aren't what's funny, it's Skipper being an idiot and being sexist that's funny yk? The penguins are idiots who think they're really smart, that's the whole point of the show.
I get it. It's like how _It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia_ made "the implication" funny not from the standpoint of what Dennis is talking about being funny, but the fact that he's clearly incapable of understanding *why* Mac is so bothered by it.
@@nicholasfarrell5981penguins of Madagascar actually reminds me a lot of always sunny. They grossly overestimate their competence and are driven primarily by ego or hedonism.
Like the way they treat most of the other characters as means to an end, not as people, eg the captain of the boat in the movie. And their complete disregard for the safety or quality of life of those around them, like THE BOAT. The penguins rickety cricketed that poor man, or like that poor journalist they tied up bc of the bad review. I remember watching an episode where they were doing something with traffic lights that was like Charlie work. Like ambitious schemes.
Also Dennis is Skipper-coded, Mac is Private-coded, Charlie is Rico-coded (but also private and kowalski to some extent). Ig that leaves Dee as Kowalski? Idk my point is those two shows are the same
"Comically misisng the point" is the name of the trope
I, for one, love the idea that Kowalski, being the "scientific genius" transed his own gender, synthesized his own hormones (whatever a penguin may need) and lives that stealth life without even his own commander knowing. Which means that, being faced by the prospect of being outed, he had to cover it up in some way-so building an intentionally shitty machine, causing mayhem and exploiting the troupe's laughably small attention span. That also explains the completely unscientific tests he had Skipper go through. They weren't meant to prove anything because skipper was never the "biologically female" (ugh 🙄) penguin.
(That said, I watched the show so much as a kid, my family loved it, I know how the show's "logic" and humor goes. But as a trans dude… I still stand by this theory tho :p 🐧🏳⚧)
as a transmasc who used to watch this series as a kid, it's such a shame i didn't see this episode, i would definitely have connected with it. especially since i somewhat identified with skipper. just pretend the machine wasn't malfunctioning and wow. transmasc skipper real. it even makes way more sense both thematically with the message and logically with the fact the zookeeper said that; meta is the only reason the machine obviously turned out to be malfunctioning. it would still a sexist mess of an episode but hey
i am also transmasc. I do vividly remember this episode from when i was young, and i also remember being confused by the reveal the machine was just malfunctioning and the zookeeper was wrong. its kinda addressed by skippers line about mammals being idiots but like we know that's not true bc one, the otter being offended by this similarly bigoted statement, and secondly, we are mammals lol. consequently it never really gives a reason for the conceit of the episode. they should've just had him be like "who cares what the dumb machine says, im a man," or maybe the final line was actually just drawn in without his knowledge and he really is female. it just seems like they didn't want to commit to the idea or didnt think it through properly.
So penguins of Madagascar really transmasced all of our genders hmm
@@lewysf8705It's true!
-Another transmasc person
based ace transmasc
While I am not trans, I do remember this episode and do wish my mom got the lesson because she thinks I can't be girly as a boy
Madagascar lore goes so much deeper than anyone would ever expect. Or want probably. Lol.
Looking at you, Mort
@@Dr.Mrs.Pancakes
Ah yes the foot fetishist.
mort
mort lore can be collected into a multiple hours long video
just got officially diagnosed with autism yesterday and one of my special interests are penguins!!!
Congrats on the diagnosis 🎉🐧
cool
Welcome to the club 😎
Hello fellow penguin fan
LOL. Your special interest are penguins? You are Crump from Yu-Gi-Oh! :P
This is the last show I ever expected to see you talk about
Well expect it, buster!!!
Im so glad she did
I've been begging for this in comment sections for weeks, you don't even understand-
Honestly, when I voted for it, I thought it was a goof.
I knew so. So soon as I found out this episode even existed.
love that trans mountainscape painting.
Me too! I want one with the bi flag colors!
it's really pretty
I think it's a Celeste poster. Celeste is a video game featuring a transgender protagonist. btw you should check out "Ikenfell" which is a pretty good game that also features inclusive characters.
The ✨️aestheticcness✨️
Transaffic.
I’d rewrite the ending with them going back to the machine and discovering that it stopped working halfway through. Kowalski goes to fix it, but Skipper stops him, telling him to not bother fixing it and just shut it down. One of them, probably Private, would say “but how will you know if you’re a girl or a boy?” The music swells and Skipper smiles, and he tells them “I don’t need to know if I’m a girl or a boy. I’m a leader.”
20:20 I wouldn't say Julien's freedom of gender expression has anything to do with his position as royalty. Many of the lemurs don't conform to any sort of gender role, namely Ted and Mort.
Gender roll?
Like pizza roll?
@@tatiana4050 yep.
Gender roll. Pizza role. Bread roll. Job role.
I don't know if Ted counts because it could be the whole gay=feminine myth but there are times some of the other male or female lemurs don't conform completely
isn't mort a different species
There's that one episode about Ted's really masculine version (Snake?) and how Dorothy reacts
All hail king Julien is in a league of its own with its representation. It’s an experience that can’t be put into words, only echoed about in legends.
Julien has been my fav, and now I know why.
Everyone with no knowledge of that series should read morts wiki page at least once. Thats representation for you. Not sure what's being represented but. still
@@cup_of_tea755Why are his grandchildren possibly imprisoned
Mort Lore
>Species: Goodman's mouse lemur (Microcebus lehilahytsara), bear, starfish, sand, pot belly pig, cactus, spool of copper wire, wood chips and possibly spider
>At least 50 years old
>Absorbed(vored ?) his grandparents
>12 ex-wives
>Unknown number of children and grandchildren
>Possibly Jewish
I mean, alright I guess !
Is it a trans masterpiece? No.
Is it at least a little bit trans-affirming? Yes.
Is it one of the better gender-affirming episodes of a children's series? Yes....but only because that's such a low bar to hit.
As a trans masc I love it tbh
I think the big message is just that gender is meaningless. Skipper was a man all along, biologically, but when they thought he was a biological girl it changed nothing about what he was before. And when they went with that, Skipper's behavior changed despite nothing changing. But then they go back and it's STILL the case that nothing changed and Skipper returns to how he used to act.
When Skipper was told he was a girl, he did that. But that was never what HE wanted to be, right? Whether they're male or female just never mattered at all, it's all just a matter of perspective and I think that's honestly a pretty good message overall. Don't let what you're born as define who you are, just be whatever you want to be.
Also, I feel like I remember this one as a kid. Might just be me, but I always assumed the 'female penguin' was private. Completely undercutting everything I just said, it does seem like he's often portrayed as the most sensitive and feminine member of the group, right? Not sure if that's the intention or not, but I can see it being something they wanted to go for as an implication here.
Yeah when I saw the title of the video I just assumed it was going to be about private tbh
Smh it's clearly Rico, all transmascs I know are capable of regurgitating explosives at a moments notice
I actually like that Private is allowed to be sensitive and none of his friends/brothers bully him for it
i think its the penguin rico
. i have no real reason i just always thought that loll
@@amberwingtundrawing776 If anything, Private is the favored brother of the Penguins, they all love Private the most.
plot twist: the zookeeper WAS wrong, they’re all transmasc
tPoM trivia nobody asked for but that probably confirms Alice was right!!
You know how studies have shown that afab people USUALLY see more red tones than amab people?
In tPoM episode S01E30 “Tagged” Kovalski speaking over the phone with a character who needs to press red button of particular color. And while this character (male) sees 7 identical colors, Kovalski insist that there are 7 distinct red tones and that it’s should be easy to press the right one.
So Kovalski is the trans one. His machine just didn’t work.
P.S. this show is extremely queer and it absolutely makes fun of traditional sexism and gender stereotypes. Skipper wants to be macho man, but in episode where they were getting shots he was trying to do a sexy dance to distract his own teammates. I’m not joking.
Also they took Mort to whole other level. It’s a sight to behold. Although creepy and mindfucking one. 😂
I remember this! You're right!
Not sure if that applies to penguins, but also not sure if it really matters for the purposes of the show.
Mort lore makes my brain short-circuit, no matter how many times I hear of it.
I can’t wait to see how much more niche and obscure the trans episodes Lily explores will get
the trans reality of shrek the halls
The trans episode of a CZcams miniseries made in 2012 by a bunch of bored fifteen year olds
@@someoneunknown7655Nyan Neko Sugar Girls
Well, if any of you can help me convince Lily to play through the Glory of Heracles franchise...
But yeah, it can go very far. We barely even touched the surface (there still need to be at least one episode about Almodovar's work after all)
The Trans Discussion of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.. featuring unnamed Trans Man from Part 6 and the entirety of Dragona from Part 9.
Honestly, the stock music title card format is just kind-of good, isn't it? You get to save on a little bit of time and animation, people know what the episode is, and you can even quickly shove in credits. In an age before streaming and episode lists, this would tell you everything you'd really want or need to know if you're trying to decide whether to stick around or what to really expect.
I feel like the only time I've ever heard of the cartoon title card thing being 'bad' was when Fairly Oddparents put out an episode where both titlecards of the 22 minute thing used the same stock music. It's something you never really think about, but yeah, that honestly does feel like it'd be pretty jarring.
I need to see her cover the A boy named sue episode of Dexters lab, even as a kid it made me raise an eyebrow
YES, I'm sorry but I stand by the headcanon that Mandark is trans
@@bobtheball5384so true
I wanna see her cover it too
@@bobtheball5384Bro he even has a dead name and everything, those creators must've known what they were doing.
I fucking called it, after watching your videos I remembered this episode of the penguins of Madagascar so fucking vividly that I really wanted to hear your thoughts on it. I didn't think it would happen but here we are 😭
All Hail King Julien show is the wildest freaking show, it feels like a drug trip half the time. I've somehow watched most of it
The ending reminds me of an “It’s always sunny” episode where the characters don’t learn anything and don’t care and that’s the comedy of the situation.
I think you are describing every always sunny episode and every penguins episode. They are the same
the ribbon dancing is part of something called Rhythmic gymnastics, where the ribbon is one of the five materials used
thank god we're FINALLY covering a good show
I'm here for info-dump kid, because I was info-dump kid (plus class clown).
Speaking of which...
Most species of birds wouldn't see the point of gender-segregated toilets, because they just have cloacas. (Ratites and anserines being the general exception.) (Major props to "Spies in Disguise" for being the only piece of children's media I know of to make an explicit cloaca joke.)
I would've preferred a twist ending where it turned out they were all female, or where the samples got mixed up and never resolved, or (best of all) where there was some question as to the accuracy of the test results, but Skipper and the others ceased to care.
While I recognize shows like these are obliged to preserve the status quo, it's crummy that the certainly-unintentional message sent here was that we only need to really worry about defying or questioning gender roles when we're the lesser sex, and that getting to dodge the bullet of being held to feminine expectations is cause for celebration. It sends the message that the whole deconstruction of gender roles and expectations is solely for the benefit of women, when it stands to benefit dudes, too! Of course Skipper was just relieved and happy to have his gender identity affirmed, but that did unfortunately come across a bit as "oh thank god I'm not a broad."
That's true but let's not forget how the penguins are portrayed in almost every episode especially skipper... They're dumb... Like... Crazy dumb, especially when it comes to masculinity, whenever the topic comes up SKIPPER is the butt of the joke, you're supposed to listen to Marleen or eventually Private, the show never hides that, it's forced to maintain status quo because comedic serie with no timeline not meant to be treated seriously but within the episode you are supposed to laugh at them for their ridiculous performance of gender and be on Marlene's side
Also I'v seen a comment say that they headcanon that Kowalski just ran a false positive so Skipper would stop being upset and I love that theory
Marlin is not the only female animal in the zoo tho…there’s also a female ostrich Shelly, two female badgers Becky and Stacy, baboon Darla and two other female baboons (I’m talking only about permanent residents of the zoo, tell me if I forgot someone)
Yeah but it's still not a lot compared to the number of male characters in the cast
ok but i used to watch this series and i do not remember any of those so they clearly weren't close to the same level of relevance as the otter
@@buchelaruzitI agree with this one, I watched bothe the Penguins of Madagascar series off and on as a kid and the King Julian series 3 times, I only rember there being two commonly reoccurring girl characters one for each show and I barely remember Arline the otter. Arline and Clover from the King Julian series had similar roles as they were the girls who advised the main characters and both were kinda tomboys but Arline's personality didn't often have good chemistry with the cast except for the reoccurring joke that she was the one who made sense and the penguins would say ridiculous things and she would be like idk guys that sounds abit off and then the thing they talked about has a coincidence happen to prove them right and she's like no way these guys are gonna believe it was a coincidence.
But like Clover from King Julian was way more prominent I remember her being in almost every episode and she had a really interesting character arc even though she was abit extreme cause its a kids cartoon and it was interesting to watch how driven she was towards her goals and even though with cartoonish strength she was flawed in a more realistic way or from how I seen it.
With me being trans, I guess it's fitting that this is the one episode of this show that I remember and I remember all of it!
Ooh I like your jumper!
Just gonna dump this here:
"Lemurs have a female-dominant society."
So the king dude must be transmasculine?
transmasc King Julien is an excellent interpretation, adopting that immediately fjfjdkc
@@ernie39I too, will be adopting this as my headcanon/interpretation
I like where you're going with this, I'd love a trans king Julien, but queen Elizabeth was still queen in a male dominant society so it's possible that something similar happened here and that even within their female dominant society, there were no daughters in the royal family at the time which would leave king Julien to be the heir.
But idk I haven't watched the whole franchise did they mention if king Julien had a sister?
@@giordanodsouza9563
IDK tbh
Seen the first movie and possibly a sequel, so I have no clue about the lore.
I did know that lemurs lived in matriarchal societies, though. So King Julien means Disney did no research, or that they did and made him transmasc! lol
I do actually think that's a pretty common idea/interpretation! It's neat :)
Honestly I think that the main joke of the Pinguins being the way they are is that they are toxicly masculine. And I feel like if we read them like that it's more like the show and even the movies made fun of that. The lesson at the end is a joke, and the show is pointing our humerously about how they did learn the wrong lesson. It allows the children watching to learn the lessen...it even drawn attention to it by even mentioning that there is a lesson to be learned here at all. So the characters can stay stagnent to keep being funny, while the viewers are allowed to learn from this episode. Even more so encouraged to think about it, by the mysterie of if the Zookeeper was right. I know that this is one of the many gender disscussion episodes of cartoons I watched as a kid that started to make me think about gender.
Kowalski's devices always go wrong, so it's likely that one of the penguins is definitely trans but the machine interpreted all results the same. Oh, and spitting in a cup isn't as effective as other ways of getting DNA.
@@HauntakuTV While in later seasons Kowalski does have a lot of inventions that work supernaturally well in a very sci-fi way. Early in the show he was more so portrayed as thinking he was good at science rather than actually being good at it. So I do agree a lot with this.
@@HauntakuTVmy money Rico
You are literally describing always sunny in Philadelphia. Audiences learning or laughing from seeing static characters driven primarily by hubris and hedonism f ing up over and over.
for years i've thought of skipper as someone under the nonbinary unbrella, in one of the later episodes he has a short one sided conversation with the head of a robot and says 'were the last men standing, except were not really men, and you can't stand' and he also comes to the conclusion he's not a girl in this episode so i just assumed he was neither.
i always interpreted that as more of a “man as a synonym for human” joke, but i Really enjoy this reading now that i’ve heard of it!
@@emrysss honestly once i rewatched as an adult i realised that but as a kid i was just like ' oh cool skipper isn't a man or a woman'
Skipper being female with his voice the same and acting the same captivated me a little when I was younger.
The penguins consistently being wrong doesnt meld well with gender concepts cause its hard to wrap your little kid brain around the moral of the episode.
I am honestly and truly surprised at how this cartoon handled things with more grace than most live action shows do.
30:52 "But I would have liked for the penguins to get to explore femininity" => I'm sorry but this quote is extremely funny out of context.
The afro Circus scene took me back HARD.
I instantly needed to watch the afro circus/like to move it move it song
I haven't listened to those songs since I was about 11 😢
I like the title card gag you did at 7:40! You should genuinely just keep it in, lmfao
i was deeply hyperfixated on this show both as a kid and a few years ago during a rough patch in my life, and i always latched onto this episode, and i remember actually being frustrated at the end when it revealed skipper was male all along, but i suppose it was a kids show in the early 2010s so that was the best we were going to get. skipper will always be a transmasc icon to me lmao
Rewatching the episode, I came to the conclusion that Kowalski rigged the machine to give a "male" result while fixing it specifically because of how badly Skipper reacted. I have literally no evidence for this, but it feels better than "Skipper was really a biological guy the whole time".
@@nicholasfarrell5981thank you sm this is the only reading of that ending i’m ever going to give a shit about now
shit man this episode went way over my head as a kid. that was insane. also the term you were looking for is probably "ribbon dancing" :]
I watched this show SO MUCH as a kid its insane that i missed the ball on this one
Being trans myself, I can honestly say, this episode has hidden meanings. It doesn't matter what you are, it matters who you are. To me, that's good enough.
This is literally the only episode I remember from this show and I feel vindicated that it wasn't just a fever dream I had when I was a kid
I did not know about all the different series in the franchise, thank you for bring it to our attention.
As a trans man who was obsessed with this show as a kid, I am the target audience for this video (also I'm going into zookeeping as a career)
Could you IMAGINE if they didn’t puss out and actually had a canonically trans lead character? Like if the machine did work exactly as intended, and Skipper decided trying to force himself into identifying as a female penguin was never going to work, and that he always already knew he was a man, and the dna test didn’t change that? And that was the message? Could you IMAGINE?
I guess it does happen, though a lot more subdued. There is one biological female, but that doesn’t seem to affect the one’s gender identity.
I watched legitimately every single thing to do with the Madagascar franchise when I was a kid; I’m also genderqueer and found it really fun that the penguins had a pretty relaxed view of gender.
To answer your question about King Julian being in NY, this show was stated by the showrunners that it's not canon to the movies and essentially an alternate reality.
Skipper is now the transmasc icon, I'd what anyone says. Also you should do one on Hunter x hunter specifically aluka
That could be so sick! Alluka is awesome in HXH, but it’s weird how much people try to deny the fact that Alluka is trans.
@@stonks3507 it's so wild, like legit tell me you weren't paying attention to her story without telling me you weren't paying attention nanika isn't the only thing going on in there
I accept Skipper as a transmasc icon, now I just gotta learn how to edit to put him on the trans flag
All Hail King Julian is insane and was doing multiverse shananagins before Endgame
private was always my favorite, he regularly crossdresses (usually as bait but he doesnt seem to mind the act) and he was always the most sensible one (shown at the end of the episode here where he says 'we're working on that one') very much a guy, but enjoyed and was regularly doing gender-fucky behavior.
loved him so much dude. as transmasc nonbinary, definitely an influence on my identity.
You did a Pokemon episode, so I think Digimon is worth looking at. In Digimon Tamers, Renamon (the Digimon furries are obsessed with) explains that all Digimon are inherently sexless, so not only is Renamon directly explaining that they're an enby, but it also means all of the other Digimon who do present themselves with a gender are effectively trans. There's also a human NPC in Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth (a game with a lot of little queer moments) that explains that they're enby and laments that the VR avatar system only lets you pick between male and female. There's also the all-around gender fuckery of the evolution lines, like Angemon evolving into Angewomon or Devimon evolving into LadyDevimon. There's probably a lot more than this, but those are just the first few things that come to mind.
I have never seen a single one of the original Madagascar movies but as a kid I fuckin lived for the Penguins show
I watched this show a lot growing up, its nice to come back to it now (now knowing im queer) and view it through a trans lens!!
I love how the Penguins' absurd methods of proving their gender (mainly the board with a picture of a monster truck and a picture of a unicorn) can reflect how absurd how our irl standards and methods of "proving" gender can be (e.g. whether or not we cry, what hobbies or activities we participate in, what clothes we wear, etc). And Skipper suddenly acting "more like a girl" felt more like Skipper internalizing and conforming to what the other penguins expected of him, then convincing himself these expectations must be innate to being a girl (which would be supported by his preexisting notions of gender).
Honestly as far as episodes about transness and gender goes, I do think this episode is pretty solid, at least in presenting nuamced points through the depictions of more un-nuanced/absurd characters (highlighting the absurdity of gender essentialism).
Also i loved you aside about internalized misogyny/patriarchal masculinity and how it's a collaborative effort from everyone to deconstruct unhealthy biases ans social attitudes, that's an excellent point!!
Clearly lily needs to watch penguins do synchronised swimming every day for 50 years and then report back on how they feel.
I think the dancing thing Lily was forgetting was called Ribbon Dancing. It’s a type of gymnastics where you use a ribbon to create shapes midair.
very excited for the trans episode of the Barnyard series
also your hair is pretty
Otis is an OG trans icon
Everyone in all hail king julian is canonically bisexual
im not kidding-
I'm happy the girl wasn't Private, since he is shown to have more stereotypically "feminine" traits and the message would probably have been muddled
The Pronouns of Madagascar
😂
as a kid, I've always wanted to collect dolls. I've always thought that dresses looked pretty and I've thought about trying them on. I was never forced to be a manly guy. I just grew up learning the usual, "boys are supposed to like this stuff and girls are supposed to like this stuff." and though I haven't completely come out, I did tell my mom that I enjoy girly stuff. and she's completely fine with it. she lets me act like a girl and wear pretty things. I don't know if I'll ever be brave enough to actually come out, but for now, I'm fine with being a girly guy. and maybe that's the lesson of this episode. it doesn't matter what your birth gender is, you should just do whatever you want to do and act however you want
Actually with the penguins gender thing:
There is a way to tell a penguins gender without DNA Testing (although I do agree that DNA Testing is the easiest way to test on any bird’s gender) is that depending on the species of penguin since in some penguins: Males are bigger (typically) and have larger beaks but differences can differ depending on the penguin
Ok I was not expecting the penguins of madagascar as a topic lol
Grateful for this one, def something in this series stood out
THE RIBBON DANCING. It is rhythmic gymnastics!! My favorite Olympics category
ngl i do like the idea of a transmasc or he/him butch skipper... i trust the zookeeper on this. like sure, he may be biologically female, but we all know him as a dude, so a dude he is. it's canon i think
I watched this show a lot as a kid, to the point that when I saw the Central Park Zoo's penguins, I thought of them and not the gay penguins, which is a shame. I think that it's important to consider that the penguins aren't necessarily the heroes, as you said, they are more oblivious nuisances, like in the movies apparently. That's also shown to the audience a lot, something happening and them taking credit for it or claiming to have fixed a situation that is obviously worse. Marlene is definitely portrayed to be reasonable and the penguins to be pretty unknowledgeable in real life stuff. That said, obviously they are still the protagonists and role models to kids for being cool, so that doesn't negate that the messages they are sending are super sexist. I've also noticed that this is one of the few children's shows I know that deals with biological sex and that it can be different from gender expression and identity, even subtly. Obviously, it then understands that to be a mistake it wants to correct to make them "match", so that's less good. The biological sex not being obvious from the outside gets a plus point and so does the societal expectations influencing your own traits and behaviour without you meaning to let them. I also think the moment where Skipper gives up trying to suppress his supposed gender and thinks his only way out is through the one way he assumes femininity and womanhood to be is interesting. If I had kids, would I let them watch this? Probably only if I let them watch that show at all and also if they had enough media with positive trans and gender nonconforming rolemodels portrayed as good in their lives.
This comment is so perfectly worded this really needs more likes.
im amazed at your ability to find a trans episode in literally any show
Lord farquaad staying alive is really funny
How else would he be able to play that bug squashing Shrek party game on the Nintendo Gamecube?
TRANSAGASCAR
I just said "What." aloud to myself
"The sentiment is in the right place even if the words are not"
I love that
King Julien is the most non-binary character of all time in his show he crossdresses multiple times, says he doesn't like gender labels, calls himself "your sir or madame" etc.
A queer analysis of the penguins honestly makes sense and could be interesting. Penguins irl are some of the queerest species out there, we all know gay penguins exist, and that the dads take care of the eggs more than the mums. And when we take a look at the movie it gets interesting that Private was an egg when the three met him as kids, the three then raise Private as basically teen parents? Private has three dads guys. The found family dynamic of the Madagascar penguins is very interesting
Honestly, I know it's not one of *those* kinds of shows, but I think the ending would have been a lot more meaningful if they just... didn't turn the machine back on.
If Skipper was like, "hey, it's okay, I don't need a machine to tell me what I am" and just leave it open ended that he could be either but doesn't care because it doesn't change him.
i saw keyan charlie talk about this episode and i was very excited to see your take on it!!
Was about to recommend his essay on it
I'm pretty sure this episode exists because the fans of both channels started requesting it
@AbsolXGuardian, yeah, Keyan seems like a fan of both channels.
i love how many times now i've sat down for my lunch break, opened youtube, to see Lily uploaded a new vid only minutes ago! 😻
I'm also happy that they didn't pick out Private for this role, because he's the softie
I didn't know this show had some penguin-sexual representation
I mean, Alice the Zookeeper *might* be right, but she's also consistently shown to be neither very interested nor very caring about the animals. Hell, in one of the episodes, a bunch of mammals end up getting eaten by a large constrictor and somehow Alice doesn't notice how a bunch of animals are missing and the snake is massively overfed. She's honestly a bit of a strange character because she comes across as someone who's only in it for the money, in which case zookeeper is a really odd occupation since it's a lot of work, not super well-paid and not all that easy to get into.
In any case, I don't necessarily think the episode undermines itself for the simple fact that deeply internalized toxic masculinity is part of the penguins persona, at least for most of them. Private probably not quite as much, he seems to be more open minded.
The episode takes place across what, a single day? Of course they wouldn't learn a lasting lesson from that single experience.
Being childish and immediately forgetting learned lessons is also a consistent character trait. Even though they're the main characters, they're genuinely kind of stupid, mostly because they're so convinced that they always know best. Their ignorance is a defining character trait.
The fact that they're super relieved and act like nothing happened as soon as Skipper is confirmed to be male after all actually serves to underline the moral of the story because you're not supposed to agree with the penguins. They do silly things, and therefore the way they walk out of it all is also silly. There's a reason we see Marlene try to object at the very end because the writers knew what they were doing. Marlene is almost always right in this show, so young viewers would have picked up that the message is usually "Do how Marlene says, not how the Penguins do"
The ribbon thing is a kind of rhythm gymnastics!
IT'S MIZZIX OF THE IZMAGNUS
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO READ THAT CARD FOR SO LONG AND I FINALLY FIGURED IT OUT
i know its a very small point but the zookeepers probably thinks the others are doing the work or night time crewmembers do it for why they dont question it
When I was younger around 8-9 I watched this show constantly to the point where I would not stop imitating either King Julian or Mort's voices to the point where my family had me tested for developmental disorders.
Anyway cool video! I'll be tuning in for future ones :)
real missed opportunity for the show to end on "who cares if i'm female, i'm still the manliest man around!" and reset the status quo by just, having everyone decide that this changes nothing and move on. it just never comes up again because it doesn't need to.
i know this show is from an earlier era where there's no way that was going to happen because trans people existing was on so few people's radars, but still, it would've been a way better ending imo.
I mean, it does end by saying that gender doesn't matter as long as you can still kick ass and save the day. Which, considering they are a commando unit, is not that wrong.
@@M4x_P0w3r yeah but it also ends with "whew good thing the test was wrong and i wasn't actually a female" and i'm saying i would've preferred if they _hadn't_ backtracked on it and just let him be a trans guy
@@TheGuindo He did spend all his life believing he was a male, after all. Sure, he did end up getting somewhat used to being female by the end, but he much preferred being a male because that's what he was used to. While he was trying to be a female, he acted all femenine not because that's what felt right, but because he felt that's what he had to do, so it wasn't genuine. After all, the only proof he only thought he was a female because a machine told him so, it wasn't an inner revelation or anything.
I love that Keyan recommended it because I watched his video a while back and that’s how I even remembered this episode existed
I can’t believe Lily included the polka dot afro circus clip. I just got rid of that song from my memory and now it’s going to my new intrusive thought song for the foreseeable future.
Edit: and I like to move it??? Dear god I feel like I’m in grade school again.
I have to say, as a person who's been watching for months, your production has gotten so much better and your style is really start to solidify. Keep up the good work!!!
While it is a bit of a cult classic, with the christmas season approaching, I recommend checking out the animated chirstmas film "Tokyo Godfathers" which has one of it's main three characters as a trans woman and former drag queen. While parts of her depiction are a bit dated, with the film having been made in 2003, the film also shows a lot of sympathy for her character, highlighting the reality of queer and trans people ending up homeless and having to create a chosen family of their own without the support of their birth family.
Her finding out her one friend died from aids was gut punch.
I remember watching that episode
I missed the ending, so I just assumed skipper was a female for the rest of the show
Didn't really change anything ¯\_(ツ)_/¯