Extremely cool! I was truly excited to see what one gram of matchstick powder can do... imagine using 5 times as much! Clearly, gun control is futile. On another note, I am so happy that you will soon start selling the Adder and the Fenris in the UK. This will be a win-win-win, so many people from the UK ordered from us directly and had to play customs roulette afterwards.
Joerg Ahoj, I am based in Prague and I have an over barrel design, if you see my channel you will sell early prototypes, How can I arrange to show you their features?
There are reloading kits for .22rimfire that use match heads for primer powder(paste with alcohol then allow to dry after pressing into rim with provided tool) and also give a charge weight for different match head loads.
When I was a kid we used to saw the end off CO2 cartridges and fill with match heads and launch out of an iron pipe. They would go through a car door (when they were real thick back in the 60’s). It was always scary as we used match heads lined up in masking tape for fuses which didn’t always work. It was fun but dangerous. They never exploded but there was the potential for it to happen. We were young and dumb but had a healthy fear of what might happen.
Think the lack of primers etc should not be a big problem for creative gunsmiths. You can easily make a spark with a capacitor, switch and a coil. Guns were developed before we had a good understanding of electricity. Guns work. So why change them? A zombie apocalypse might inspire change.
We used to take Bangers apart for the guts when we were kids, even had a muzzle load air rifle with a hole for the fuse. It worked surprisingly well. Very smoky.
We used either crushed match heads, mothballs mixed with lighter fluid, or, as you said, caps. They were super smoky too. I used to get the variety of cap where it was a long pink/red ribbon full of squibs. I'd wrap the whole roll around a large washer or coin, then throw it hard. Worked like a poor mans flashbang 🤣
@@jimmyrustler8983 I know the ones you mean, but they never ever sold them in the UK. Astra Bangers or firecrackers as their called nowadays were so much fun for us 80s kids. What is in mothballs?, I've never heard of them being used like that
@@jock-of-ages73 Mothballs are made of Napthalene, mixed with petroleum it works really well for spud cannon propellant. 😎 I think the fun police really ought to lighten up. Imagine banning simple noisemakers and fireworks whilst they have watercannons, helicopters and entire squadrons of armed police. Why are they so scared of fireworks, I wonder?....
@@jimmyrustler8983 French bangers (thank you school trip to France :) , copper pipe with an end seal soldered on and a hole drilled for the fuse, could easily put a ball bearing through a car door. My Bro burned his arm cos he held the pipe wrong... he's a vicar now!
@@thingi I have a DIY .38 cal microcannon that I made a few years ago out of some scrap parts. I used a piece of seamless Hydraulic tube for the barrel, with a big fat Seloc pin as the outer barrel sleeve. I had to make a tiny weighted carriage to mount it to, as when fired it would pull off an impressive 720 backflip. Makes me happy knowing there's other people with a keen interest in taking out their eyes 🤣👍
An excellent video thanks, I guess it shows that how badly the opponent is injured depends on good powder burn. Maybe you could do a similar one where you provide some projectile statistics on each formula.
I'm watching this video again after seeing it for the first time when it came out. I'm sure you're busy working with GoGun but if you made more videos I think they'd be really popular!
Bow and arrows /crossbow are a better way to go .Faster to fire than muzzle loaders,quet,arrows and bow can be made of wood,arrowheads are easy to make out of scrap steel-all you need is a hammer and fire pit with some source of air,like hand cranked blower or bellows,you can make charcoal super easy with 2 barrel drums.Fletchings can be made of anything.From paper,feathers,steel. . .Another amazing weapon that nobody speaks of is a spear.
It is about having fun ,less about practical results.I was in competition with my bow against crossbow .That guy couldnt have any Chance. Why muzzleloaders? Back in time,there was much easier to bulid a army of gun shooters than archers,which take lot of practice and infratructure costs,hundreds of thousends arrows,good quality suply was not a easy task at all..
After filling the barrel with powder, and before ramming your ball home, close your pan cover. This will keep the powder from spraying out into the air and onto the ground, and will aid in priming the firearm. This works well, especially with firearms that have a larger touch hole, like a brown bess musket.
Great video! I thought about this for the Dr. Stone anime also and I think post apocalypse I'd make grenades. I'd probably rather have a bow for hunting than a flintlock and grenades are a much more devastating and efficient use of powder. And if you accidentally scavenger flash powder, it doesn't really matter if you put it in a grenade because you wanted it to explode.
Moar like this please!! Comparison of velocity and penetration. Differently ground version of powder. Different amounts of powder. Remotely triggered. This felt like an appetizer.
Cast steel is good for 45,000 psi. Standard three component black powder will only make 14,000 psi. So it's safe to experiment with. Anything else starts making more pressure. Where the really big problem comes is how quickly it builds up. And how high it can get. If it comes from a firework it probably has som metal in it. It makes it pressure sensitive and very fast. Perchlorate are bad for being pressure sensitive. Compact it in a muzzle loader and say goodbye. Put it in a rocket and it screams or whistles. If you want to actually learn try a fireworks class. Don't mess around with guns. They blow up and usually do some damage.
Powder the match striker surface (or the head tips of strike-anywhere matches if you can still find them) with some match powder - as you need a percussive reaction for the primer cap. From there, you are just going through the normal reloading process (though you would be reusing the primer caps after undenting them with a dowel and hammer) and filling the case with as much of your substitute powder as you could (and you are still going to have a reduced power round that would not be reliable for semi-auto function on top of being very dirty in the gun). If you are going to reload modern shells with black powder you are going to have the best results with calibers that were originally designed for black powder and thus have sufficient case capacity (shotgun shells, older revolver rounds like .38sp, .45-70, etc).
A lot of preepers use black powder or wanna use it because its à good alternative for hunting or personal défense in long therm apocaliptic situation... In old time it was used and it work...
You can actually make your own percussion caps using soda cans fairly easily with a punch and you can "reload" primers as well but both end up being extremely corrosive and not as reliable as factory made.
Flash powder might be fine in the pan of a flintlock if it will light. Strontium nitrate will make the flash red, as in #1. That next to last shot likely clogged your flash hole. There's a tool commonly used, a little straight pick for that.
Imagine a zombie approaches you and you use green powder and the zombie is like ok reload I'll wait. Nice video though I love that you left the fails in as well
Mixing 90% isopropyl alcohol into your green powder, mixing well, then, allowing to the alcohol to evaporate, spread out in a pan, will result in a great uniform powder with far less work then grinding and compressing the dry way.. Have you tried this?
That really wasn’t a fair test of green powder when the kno3 had such large granules . I’m surprised it fired at all. Please try again with finer components.(run them through a cheap electric coffee grinder) I’ve seen fine green powder burn much faster. Tamp the powder carefully and well before loading the ball. You may be able to compact it enough to avoid blowing it out the flash hole when loading. Just don’t put your eye out.🥴 Loved the vid. Requesting a re do of the green. (I would try it myself but I spent my flintlock fund on an air rifle)
The chemicals were just ground in a coffee grinder then mixed. I did contemplate grinding it more, but I really wanted to see if the crudest type of green powder would work. I also want to try really crude made black powder like what I used to make as a kid, stuff that is dampened slightly with a bit of dextrin then rolled out into a sheet and left to dry.
So zombie apocalypse: get lots of matchboxes, get a pipe, get a zippo, get some lead (easy to melt and form), get a wooden paddle, get some tools -> make a pipegun.
for the green powder would a matchlock be a better option? or is it just so inconsistent that it's not worth it. you mentioned how slow burning matches are, I saw a video where a guy took the cordite out of a .303 cartridge and burnt the sticks individually and it was pretty slow burning then a bunch all together and it was much quicker ( czcams.com/video/gFmInJ9I_OE/video.html ) so wasn't totally surprised by the matches.
This was such an interesting video! Also really surprised by the matchheads. You mentioned Flash powder is too spicy for a blackpowder gun but that got me wondering: Would Flash powder work fine in guns designed for smokeless powder? Because they tend to be much better suited for high pressure? Also, you said making primers would be difficult, but it is very possible to re-use primers. Take the anvil out, punch out the dent, fill with improvised armstrong mix from matchheads and red phosfor from the side of the matchbox, anvil back in and you got a primer ;) Im a dutch guy without licence so all my experience comes from making small ammounts of armstrong mix and try to get it to detonate with a hammer as a kid xD
We are actually going to be testing this out in the near future with old shotguns and rifles. Obviously we’ll be doing all that via remote control in some sort of bunker.
@@explosivescience9389Brother, have you ever made lead gunpowder? I heard that lead is smokeless gunpowder. I searched all over the Internet and found no videos of making lead gunpowder. There are also impact powders. The firing pin will ring when it hits.
As much as I like the Adder crossbow what puts me off is it'll only fire a specific diameter bolt. You can't use normal sized bolts or even miniature crossbow bolts. The magazine is built in such a way you can only use Adder bolts or I'd of bought one when they came out.
Good vid thanks! I do think that a cap and ball revolver would be better. Yes, you do have to make the caps... but it can be done - in fact, the match powder, I believe works well for the caps. And really, if you are preparing ahead of time, you can be set up to do that and have options for that. Having multiple shots as you point out in the end, talking about the crossbow, is very advantageous. Seriously, if the recent attack in Israel isn't enough to wake up your UK "leadership" and reverse the draconian, tyrannical gun laws, I don't think anything will. The Israeli leadership immediately loosened their laws and made firearms available to their population. Hopefully they've learned their lesson and fix that permanently there too.
I appreciate the sentiment here, when the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around. My YT page is limited but what Im demonstrating are cast bullets, properlled with homemade powders, and reloaded primers. It is worthy to study the chemistry of modern BP substitutes, these approach smokeless powder and are far easier to make. The primer compound i prefer is Dynamit Nobel's SINOXID but -FA-70 is a good choice and low tech. If helps if you are a chemist
Exactly right! Hopefully I stressed that enough. Perchlorate based Flash powder is most commonly found in firecrackers. However in some countries, including the UK before they were banned completely, only allowed firecrackers made with black power.
Primers? Easy peasy 👍 so, 22 bp is 3f pistol powder, firework powder 2f rifle powder. Should have tried Golder Powder ...they're also unregulated in France!
Black powder comes in four types. 1f, 2f, 3f, 4f. The smaller the grain, the faster it burns. Faster burn means more pressure. Also, there is a difference between black powder and gun powder. I won’t reference the chemistry here. You mentioned not using any nitro cellulose. Many people use gun cotton aka cotton nitro. It is used in quite smaller amounts compared to black powder.
Everyone say they'll move out to a cabin in the woods when the apocalypse comes, the forest will be full of these city hippies trying to survive. I will do the exact opposite, I've lived on the country side all my life but when the apocalypse hits I'll move into town and there I'll set up a shop selling survival kits to all those leaving for the wild life. Then I'll set up small factories and start employing people to manufacture all these necessities and while the city folks are busy camping in the woods I've been rebuilding the infrastructure in town and when things are starting to get back to normal I'll be the owner of pretty much everything and I'll be the king :)
I'd be interested to see how powerful these shots are and which powders cause a strong enough explosion to generate lethal force. Most these powders work but would it be enough to stop a zombie
Lead nitrate + lead hypophosphite + ground flour fine lightbulb glass = primer compound. Fill up used primer wet with 50/50 water and alcohol let dry. Make gun cotton nitro cellulose and you have a modern cartridge
Safety First! maybe get your feather, toothpick, or copper wire to seal your touch hole when you deal with a "Flash in Your Pan" and one happy clear your hole! I did it last time out first shot, I forgot to clear my oil from my touch hole, so my Brother had a good laugh! Hmm What I "may have" done in the field with a similar situation was break out the barrel and carefully wet and remove the charge from the rear and shove the ball right on out. was fast and safe
That's why you don't use uncorned meal powder in a flintlock. The spark is too fast. Meal powder was more commonly used in matchlocks and cannon. A slowmatch is hotter long enough to get the meal powder to fire. Take that meal powder and mix it with some maple syrup or honey, just enough to bring it together, then knead it, press into a cake, let it dry thoroughly, then grind and sieve it to a more or less uniform grain, then try it. Probably preaching to the choir, but the audience doesn't have an explosives license.
That let me know you don't know much about rocket propellant. The second one was faster burning which is why it had more power. The faster the burn(up to a point) the more of it that goes into being a hot gas that propels the bullet. A lot of the less powerful powders show a lot of burning still happening long after the bullet has left the barrel. Too fast and the pistol will explode catastrophically. The ingredients for black powder have to be mixed in the exact correct amount and they have to be mixed for quite a while before they are useful as gunpowder.
OK I do agree, but...first thing....people need to be aware that you cannot load smokeless powder in a muzzle loader and keep you hand intact.....that said.; I prefer the ability to have multiple shots available and a firearm that is fast to load....so, I have two 45-70 rifles, one long rifle,, and a carbine. 45-70 is an easy to load straight wall cartridge that wil use either smokeless or black powder, I can load mine for everything from small game to moose and bear....the brass pretty much lasts forever with BP loads, primers can be punched out and refilled with cap powder or home made fulminate., and you get better accuracy plus a follow up shote doesn't take a minute to relorad. Oh I also have a pair of Colt SAA clones....also a straight wall cartridge that you can load with either powder. .
If you were dealing with zombies, a flintlock sounds like a worst choice option. You would do far better using the materials as distractors/attractors. Consider those cannister fireworks that run for several minutes throwing up sound, light, etc - start one of those and run as they would attract every Z in the area for some time. If you were looking to weaponize them, you would probably be better served filling pipes with touch holes - essentially primitive grapeshot cannon set up in series on a choke point.
Flintlock (Well, muzzleloaders in general) work in formations better than they do in a stand alone situation. That's the way they've been used in warfare effectively. Since the first handgunnes appeared on European soil there have been pictures of people using smaller formations until the arkebuse (Matchlock) really kicked in where they started forming the first mercenary groups and formations. Well, the flintlock brought it all home with groups, ranks, formations and basically the largest parts of the military becoming gun only. To just imagine the arms race and the armor manufactures having to come up with better and better designs, until completely giving up on protection and going all in on style (Because protection of the time wouldn't help you when hit by a led ball) must've been crazy. So, long story short: Muzzleloaders yes, but only if you have a group of comrades. Otherwise you might as well just use a spear, sword or air rifle (They've become much more reliable and deadly over the last 3-4 years.
@@Fuerwahrhalunke The reason muzzle loaders were used in formations historically has more to do with then being smooth bore - and thus increasingly inaccurate over range. Once you put rifling in them (Civil War), formations cease to be a thing and suddenly earth works and fence lines start coming into play along with targeted, rather than mass firing. A modern muzzle loader is, honestly, little different than a .45-70 in range, accuracy, and terminal performance. The only difference is the ease and speed of reloading. For single shot applications (hunting, sniping) there is little difference.
But there are antique flintlocks and percussion guns on auction houses all the time with no licence required?! You can get muff pocket pistols for less than £100.
Now I'm wondering if the matchlock was partly invented to ignite the crude, early powders that were being used in the early days of firearms as much as for their mechanical simplicity. I suspect that holding a lit length of cord soaked in saltpetre to the green powder would have ignited it more reliably!
Yep I think you’re right. There is another thing too. The chemicals were about 300 mesh, but this is actually fairly coarse still. When the charcoal burns it almost sticks together making a larger mass of it, the KNO3 does the same so you get large balls of it that block the touch hole, preventing the fire to progress into the main charge. If it was finer, I’m sure it would work much better.
I'm a bit curious regarding the pistol you used you said that you used 1g of powder but what would the proper load be in that pistol if you were using the properly made over the counter powder?
Blackpowder is very insensitive to impact and friction. To make a percussion cap you’d need to make a sensitive composition like the old paper caps, but that’s pretty unstable. Or a primary high explosive like lead styphnate or mercury fulminate.
wont it be ironic if black powder arms become common use in a post apocalyptic world... Can make your own powder and projectiles withotu any complicated tools/machines.
Instead of real gunpowder i'm using matchheads mixed with the substance thats in caps for toy capguns by gently squeezing the caps with a plier and turn caps upside down the substance falls out which looks like granules. Using only matchheads works too but adding the substance from the caps gives it more power to shoot my home made matchlocks
It would be very interesting to see what happens if you use the striking surface of the matchbox and the heads i think it's called armstrong mix But pressing in the ball could be a bit dangerous 🤔
It would be really interesting! But I don’t think I have the balls to find out, especially when ramming that lead ball in the barrel. Potassium Chlorate and red phosphorus are a nasty combo. In fact any chlorate composition has the potential to be pretty explosive.
It can be used as an improvised primer for a percussion type gun, but I would never try it in a flintlock. Armstrong mix is considered to be a primary (read : unstable) explosive.
I hope you cleaned between shots, or you will have been trying to shoot the more difficult powders with the most fouled gun. A look at a spit patch after each shot would have been useful info too. BTW A screw in ball puller is a hand tool slimmer that the ramrod. Why would you need a workshop? Personally I'd carry a silenced large calibre FAC air rifle, with spare screw on bottles, Katana, and a spear.
What did we learn today? That blackpowder must have the correct grainsize!? you used diffrent sources of powder but to compare them in a scientific way, it seems the must have all the same grain size! I have the feeling, that oxy is missing if poder is to compact, but pls correct me!😀
You dont want the flash hole full of powder....and you dont want your pan full of powder...that was your error....you want about 6 grains of powder in the pan & you dont want it up against the flash hole....run a pick into the hole to make sure its not obstructed with powder....you will get ignition instead of the fuse effect....
Extremely cool! I was truly excited to see what one gram of matchstick powder can do... imagine using 5 times as much! Clearly, gun control is futile. On another note, I am so happy that you will soon start selling the Adder and the Fenris in the UK. This will be a win-win-win, so many people from the UK ordered from us directly and had to play customs roulette afterwards.
maybe will impose the use lighters instead of matchsticks in all countries :)))
Absolutely futile 👍
Joerg Ahoj, I am based in Prague and I have an over barrel design, if you see my channel you will sell early prototypes, How can I arrange to show you their features?
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Ah, so that is why Jorge and you got in touch, well for sure don't mind seeing good quality products to grow on market, thank you.
There are reloading kits for .22rimfire that use match heads for primer powder(paste with alcohol then allow to dry after pressing into rim with provided tool) and also give a charge weight for different match head loads.
When I was a kid we used to saw the end off CO2 cartridges and fill with match heads and launch out of an iron pipe. They would go through a car door (when they were real thick back in the 60’s). It was always scary as we used match heads lined up in masking tape for fuses which didn’t always work. It was fun but dangerous. They never exploded but there was the potential for it to happen. We were young and dumb but had a healthy fear of what might happen.
The 60s honestly sounds like a great time to be alive in.
Ha ha ha, that takes me back. Nearly got killed by match heads when I was about 11 or 12.
I had some close ones as well 🤣💥
Think the lack of primers etc should not be a big problem for creative gunsmiths. You can easily make a spark with a capacitor, switch and a coil. Guns were developed before we had a good understanding of electricity. Guns work. So why change them? A zombie apocalypse might inspire change.
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Very good! Really happy to see some field expedient examples worked out. Hero status~
That was both interesting and surprising! Nice one!
These videos are so interesting
Hey Dude, I´ve been told to watch your test by Jörg Sprave. And I must demand, I am really impressed! What a nice experience!
We used to take Bangers apart for the guts when we were kids, even had a muzzle load air rifle with a hole for the fuse. It worked surprisingly well. Very smoky.
We used either crushed match heads, mothballs mixed with lighter fluid, or, as you said, caps.
They were super smoky too. I used to get the variety of cap where it was a long pink/red ribbon full of squibs. I'd wrap the whole roll around a large washer or coin, then throw it hard. Worked like a poor mans flashbang 🤣
@@jimmyrustler8983 I know the ones you mean, but they never ever sold them in the UK. Astra Bangers or firecrackers as their called nowadays were so much fun for us 80s kids. What is in mothballs?, I've never heard of them being used like that
@@jock-of-ages73 Mothballs are made of Napthalene, mixed with petroleum it works really well for spud cannon propellant. 😎
I think the fun police really ought to lighten up. Imagine banning simple noisemakers and fireworks whilst they have watercannons, helicopters and entire squadrons of armed police.
Why are they so scared of fireworks, I wonder?....
@@jimmyrustler8983 French bangers (thank you school trip to France :) , copper pipe with an end seal soldered on and a hole drilled for the fuse, could easily put a ball bearing through a car door. My Bro burned his arm cos he held the pipe wrong... he's a vicar now!
@@thingi I have a DIY .38 cal microcannon that I made a few years ago out of some scrap parts. I used a piece of seamless Hydraulic tube for the barrel, with a big fat Seloc pin as the outer barrel sleeve. I had to make a tiny weighted carriage to mount it to, as when fired it would pull off an impressive 720 backflip.
Makes me happy knowing there's other people with a keen interest in taking out their eyes 🤣👍
An excellent video thanks, I guess it shows that how badly the opponent is injured depends on good powder burn. Maybe you could do a similar one where you provide some projectile statistics on each formula.
Very cool video!
Awesome video 👍
great video
Dude your Allright I like your candor
I'm watching this video again after seeing it for the first time when it came out. I'm sure you're busy working with GoGun but if you made more videos I think they'd be really popular!
If you're going to use matches, use the stormproof variety. And remove the protective wax off of the heads first before scraping. 👍
Bow and arrows /crossbow are a better way to go .Faster to fire than muzzle loaders,quet,arrows and bow can be made of wood,arrowheads are easy to make out of scrap steel-all you need is a hammer and fire pit with some source of air,like hand cranked blower or bellows,you can make charcoal super easy with 2 barrel drums.Fletchings can be made of anything.From paper,feathers,steel. . .Another amazing weapon that nobody speaks of is a spear.
It is about having fun ,less about practical results.I was in competition with my bow against crossbow .That guy couldnt have any Chance.
Why muzzleloaders? Back in time,there was much easier to bulid a army of gun shooters than archers,which take lot of practice and infratructure costs,hundreds of thousends arrows,good quality suply was not a easy task at all..
@@cristianpopescu78 true,
some quality finned arrows (with burn capable tip) costed more than 1000s metal balls/ stone balls
After filling the barrel with powder, and before ramming your ball home, close your pan cover. This will keep the powder from spraying out into the air and onto the ground, and will aid in priming the firearm. This works well, especially with firearms that have a larger touch hole, like a brown bess musket.
Great video! I thought about this for the Dr. Stone anime also and I think post apocalypse I'd make grenades. I'd probably rather have a bow for hunting than a flintlock and grenades are a much more devastating and efficient use of powder. And if you accidentally scavenger flash powder, it doesn't really matter if you put it in a grenade because you wanted it to explode.
grenades need much more powder, about 100 shots could be fired from 1 (not so trusty) grenade
@@karantikoo9302 Good point!
I love this kind of video! Keep up the great work! However, I think air compressed rifles would be the go to imo
And you can get them from .177 all the way up to fifty caliber. Also way quieter with a moderator.
You can't buy fire-crackers? I'm sad for the UK.
You got a licence for that plastic fork?...
Moar like this please!! Comparison of velocity and penetration. Differently ground version of powder. Different amounts of powder. Remotely triggered. This felt like an appetizer.
Cast steel is good for 45,000 psi. Standard three component black powder will only make 14,000 psi. So it's safe to experiment with.
Anything else starts making more pressure. Where the really big problem comes is how quickly it builds up. And how high it can get. If it comes from a firework it probably has som metal in it. It makes it pressure sensitive and very fast. Perchlorate are bad for being pressure sensitive. Compact it in a muzzle loader and say goodbye. Put it in a rocket and it screams or whistles. If you want to actually learn try a fireworks class. Don't mess around with guns. They blow up and usually do some damage.
Now I want to see these powders used to reload a 9mm
Powder the match striker surface (or the head tips of strike-anywhere matches if you can still find them) with some match powder - as you need a percussive reaction for the primer cap.
From there, you are just going through the normal reloading process (though you would be reusing the primer caps after undenting them with a dowel and hammer) and filling the case with as much of your substitute powder as you could (and you are still going to have a reduced power round that would not be reliable for semi-auto function on top of being very dirty in the gun).
If you are going to reload modern shells with black powder you are going to have the best results with calibers that were originally designed for black powder and thus have sufficient case capacity (shotgun shells, older revolver rounds like .38sp, .45-70, etc).
I own a flint lock and I have tried match powder, yes it's very time consuming to get it.
You seen it works.
very interesting.
A metal bycycle-pump body, 1 lit banger, 1 marble = mad fun!
It's a crew-served device. :)
A lot of preepers use black powder or wanna use it because its à good alternative for hunting or personal défense in long therm apocaliptic situation... In old time it was used and it work...
If you got matches you can make primers (Armstrong mix) , If you have primers you can load cartridges...
This is the argument I had in my head for a while but no chance to use it. lol
You can actually make your own percussion caps using soda cans fairly easily with a punch and you can "reload" primers as well but both end up being extremely corrosive and not as reliable as factory made.
Greatings from Jörg Sprave ;-)
Flash powder might be fine in the pan of a flintlock if it will light.
Strontium nitrate will make the flash red, as in #1. That next to last shot likely clogged your flash hole. There's a tool commonly used, a little straight pick for that.
Imagine a zombie approaches you and you use green powder and the zombie is like ok reload I'll wait. Nice video though I love that you left the fails in as well
This is a really interesting video and it’s a good comparison between explosives powder
I like it a lot
ive tested the fuel from a model rocket engine in my 45 long colt, performed decently.
Nice
Mixing 90% isopropyl alcohol into your green powder, mixing well, then, allowing to the alcohol to evaporate, spread out in a pan, will result in a great uniform powder with far less work then grinding and compressing the dry way.. Have you tried this?
hope you cleaned with warm water your barrel after the match heads. i think it has potassium or sodium chlorate and burning produces salt.
Gasoline also somehow never goes bad in the post apocalypse.
Black powder generally isn’t used in firecrackers. Usually a perchlorate like what’s in primers.
That really wasn’t a fair test of green powder when the kno3 had such large granules . I’m surprised it fired at all. Please try again with finer components.(run them through a cheap electric coffee grinder) I’ve seen fine green powder burn much faster. Tamp the powder carefully and well before loading the ball. You may be able to compact it enough to avoid blowing it out the flash hole when loading. Just don’t put your eye out.🥴
Loved the vid. Requesting a re do of the green. (I would try it myself but I spent my flintlock fund on an air rifle)
The chemicals were just ground in a coffee grinder then mixed. I did contemplate grinding it more, but I really wanted to see if the crudest type of green powder would work.
I also want to try really crude made black powder like what I used to make as a kid, stuff that is dampened slightly with a bit of dextrin then rolled out into a sheet and left to dry.
24 hours milling needs a proper gun powder
So zombie apocalypse: get lots of matchboxes, get a pipe, get a zippo, get some lead (easy to melt and form), get a wooden paddle, get some tools -> make a pipegun.
for the green powder would a matchlock be a better option? or is it just so inconsistent that it's not worth it. you mentioned how slow burning matches are, I saw a video where a guy took the cordite out of a .303 cartridge and burnt the sticks individually and it was pretty slow burning then a bunch all together and it was much quicker ( czcams.com/video/gFmInJ9I_OE/video.html ) so wasn't totally surprised by the matches.
Just helping with the algorithm 🤙
Wow, what happens ich you grind the powders more fine?
Not sure f you can get your hands on one, but would it work with a Blunderbuss as well? :P
Air guns don't have priming issues and reload quickly.
Wonder if you showed that t-shirt into a cannon it would fire. Wad and gunpowder combo!
This was such an interesting video! Also really surprised by the matchheads.
You mentioned Flash powder is too spicy for a blackpowder gun but that got me wondering: Would Flash powder work fine in guns designed for smokeless powder? Because they tend to be much better suited for high pressure?
Also, you said making primers would be difficult, but it is very possible to re-use primers. Take the anvil out, punch out the dent, fill with improvised armstrong mix from matchheads and red phosfor from the side of the matchbox, anvil back in and you got a primer ;)
Im a dutch guy without licence so all my experience comes from making small ammounts of armstrong mix and try to get it to detonate with a hammer as a kid xD
We are actually going to be testing this out in the near future with old shotguns and rifles. Obviously we’ll be doing all that via remote control in some sort of bunker.
@@explosivescience9389 Thats amazing! Does flash generate more pressure than smokeless? Or is the bunker more of an ease of mind thing?
@@explosivescience9389 are you still planing on testing it?
@@explosivescience9389Brother, have you ever made lead gunpowder? I heard that lead is smokeless gunpowder. I searched all over the Internet and found no videos of making lead gunpowder. There are also impact powders. The firing pin will ring when it hits.
Yes, just what i wanted
As much as I like the Adder crossbow what puts me off is it'll only fire a specific diameter bolt. You can't use normal sized bolts or even miniature crossbow bolts. The magazine is built in such a way you can only use Adder bolts or I'd of bought one when they came out.
get a normal crossbow and use the inches bolts with selfmade magazin, shoul work fine
I am lucky enough to have enough reloading stuff that my grand childen will survive the same apocalypse as I do.
Good vid thanks! I do think that a cap and ball revolver would be better. Yes, you do have to make the caps... but it can be done - in fact, the match powder, I believe works well for the caps. And really, if you are preparing ahead of time, you can be set up to do that and have options for that. Having multiple shots as you point out in the end, talking about the crossbow, is very advantageous. Seriously, if the recent attack in Israel isn't enough to wake up your UK "leadership" and reverse the draconian, tyrannical gun laws, I don't think anything will. The Israeli leadership immediately loosened their laws and made firearms available to their population. Hopefully they've learned their lesson and fix that permanently there too.
Next time you go to the supermarket there will be no toilet paper and no matches!
I appreciate the sentiment here, when the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around. My YT page is limited but what Im demonstrating are cast bullets, properlled with homemade powders, and reloaded primers. It is worthy to study the chemistry of modern BP substitutes, these approach smokeless powder and are far easier to make. The primer compound i prefer is Dynamit Nobel's SINOXID but -FA-70 is a good choice and low tech. If helps if you are a chemist
Black powder generally isn’t used in firecrackers. Usually a perchlorate like what’s in primers. Which I wouldn’t dare load a muzzleloader with.
Exactly right! Hopefully I stressed that enough. Perchlorate based Flash powder is most commonly found in firecrackers.
However in some countries, including the UK before they were banned completely, only allowed firecrackers made with black power.
@@explosivescience9389 what a bummer, didn’t know about that regulation. Surely they make flash powder finer than I ever touched.
Use the matches to ignite the green powder?
Will snap pops work in a flintlock?
Primers? Easy peasy 👍 so, 22 bp is 3f pistol powder, firework powder 2f rifle powder. Should have tried Golder Powder ...they're also unregulated in France!
Black powder comes in four types. 1f, 2f, 3f, 4f. The smaller the grain, the faster it burns. Faster burn means more pressure. Also, there is a difference between black powder and gun powder. I won’t reference the chemistry here. You mentioned not using any nitro cellulose. Many people use gun cotton aka cotton nitro. It is used in quite smaller amounts compared to black powder.
Everyone say they'll move out to a cabin in the woods when the apocalypse comes, the forest will be full of these city hippies trying to survive. I will do the exact opposite, I've lived on the country side all my life but when the apocalypse hits I'll move into town and there I'll set up a shop selling survival kits to all those leaving for the wild life. Then I'll set up small factories and start employing people to manufacture all these necessities and while the city folks are busy camping in the woods I've been rebuilding the infrastructure in town and when things are starting to get back to normal I'll be the owner of pretty much everything and I'll be the king :)
I think people often forget that survival is a team game, and industrial technology won't go away.
You are not cut out for the streets brother
Cool
I'd be interested to see how powerful these shots are and which powders cause a strong enough explosion to generate lethal force.
Most these powders work but would it be enough to stop a zombie
Well, if Zombies actually existed that might be a valid question.
Lead nitrate + lead hypophosphite + ground flour fine lightbulb glass = primer compound. Fill up used primer wet with 50/50 water and alcohol let dry. Make gun cotton nitro cellulose and you have a modern cartridge
03:37 Matches have a big portion of chlorate in it, you can use it for a poor mans flash powder if you grind it and mix it with a metal powder.
Id just copy one of Joerg’s crossbows. But exploding bolts would be nice😂
Safety First! maybe get your feather, toothpick, or copper wire to seal your touch hole when you deal with a "Flash in Your Pan" and one happy clear your hole! I did it last time out first shot, I forgot to clear my oil from my touch hole, so my Brother had a good laugh!
Hmm What I "may have" done in the field with a similar situation was break out the barrel and carefully wet and remove the charge from the rear and shove the ball right on out. was fast and safe
That's why you don't use uncorned meal powder in a flintlock. The spark is too fast. Meal powder was more commonly used in matchlocks and cannon. A slowmatch is hotter long enough to get the meal powder to fire.
Take that meal powder and mix it with some maple syrup or honey, just enough to bring it together, then knead it, press into a cake, let it dry thoroughly, then grind and sieve it to a more or less uniform grain, then try it.
Probably preaching to the choir, but the audience doesn't have an explosives license.
That let me know you don't know much about rocket propellant. The second one was faster burning which is why it had more power. The faster the burn(up to a point) the more of it that goes into being a hot gas that propels the bullet. A lot of the less powerful powders show a lot of burning still happening long after the bullet has left the barrel. Too fast and the pistol will explode catastrophically. The ingredients for black powder have to be mixed in the exact correct amount and they have to be mixed for quite a while before they are useful as gunpowder.
OK I do agree, but...first thing....people need to be aware that you cannot load smokeless powder in a muzzle loader and keep you hand intact.....that said.; I prefer the ability to have multiple shots available and a firearm that is fast to load....so, I have two 45-70 rifles, one long rifle,, and a carbine. 45-70 is an easy to load straight wall cartridge that wil use either smokeless or black powder, I can load mine for everything from small game to moose and bear....the brass pretty much lasts forever with BP loads, primers can be punched out and refilled with cap powder or home made fulminate., and you get better accuracy plus a follow up shote doesn't take a minute to relorad. Oh I also have a pair of Colt SAA clones....also a straight wall cartridge that you can load with either powder. .
If you were dealing with zombies, a flintlock sounds like a worst choice option.
You would do far better using the materials as distractors/attractors. Consider those cannister fireworks that run for several minutes throwing up sound, light, etc - start one of those and run as they would attract every Z in the area for some time.
If you were looking to weaponize them, you would probably be better served filling pipes with touch holes - essentially primitive grapeshot cannon set up in series on a choke point.
Flintlock (Well, muzzleloaders in general) work in formations better than they do in a stand alone situation. That's the way they've been used in warfare effectively. Since the first handgunnes appeared on European soil there have been pictures of people using smaller formations until the arkebuse (Matchlock) really kicked in where they started forming the first mercenary groups and formations. Well, the flintlock brought it all home with groups, ranks, formations and basically the largest parts of the military becoming gun only. To just imagine the arms race and the armor manufactures having to come up with better and better designs, until completely giving up on protection and going all in on style (Because protection of the time wouldn't help you when hit by a led ball) must've been crazy. So, long story short: Muzzleloaders yes, but only if you have a group of comrades. Otherwise you might as well just use a spear, sword or air rifle (They've become much more reliable and deadly over the last 3-4 years.
@@Fuerwahrhalunke The reason muzzle loaders were used in formations historically has more to do with then being smooth bore - and thus increasingly inaccurate over range. Once you put rifling in them (Civil War), formations cease to be a thing and suddenly earth works and fence lines start coming into play along with targeted, rather than mass firing.
A modern muzzle loader is, honestly, little different than a .45-70 in range, accuracy, and terminal performance. The only difference is the ease and speed of reloading. For single shot applications (hunting, sniping) there is little difference.
But there are antique flintlocks and percussion guns on auction houses all the time with no licence required?! You can get muff pocket pistols for less than £100.
Now I'm wondering if the matchlock was partly invented to ignite the crude, early powders that were being used in the early days of firearms as much as for their mechanical simplicity. I suspect that holding a lit length of cord soaked in saltpetre to the green powder would have ignited it more reliably!
Yep I think you’re right. There is another thing too. The chemicals were about 300 mesh, but this is actually fairly coarse still. When the charcoal burns it almost sticks together making a larger mass of it, the KNO3 does the same so you get large balls of it that block the touch hole, preventing the fire to progress into the main charge. If it was finer, I’m sure it would work much better.
The matchlock came first because it is mechanically a very simple ignition system. The snaphaunce and flintlock were later developments.
Connor, how's it going?
I'm a bit curious regarding the pistol you used
you said that you used 1g of powder but what would the proper load be in that pistol if you were using the properly made over the counter powder?
Anything up to about 5g of blackpowder would be fine in this sort of gun.
@@explosivescience9389ah thats interesting thanks
you can't overload a blackpowder gun !
If you have to many blackpowder into it, it thrown out, unburned, at firering.
Can you make percussion caps with aluminum foil and black powder?
Blackpowder is very insensitive to impact and friction. To make a percussion cap you’d need to make a sensitive composition like the old paper caps, but that’s pretty unstable. Or a primary high explosive like lead styphnate or mercury fulminate.
Pcp airguns?
I got one in the US Cal .50
wont it be ironic if black powder arms become common use in a post apocalyptic world... Can make your own powder and projectiles withotu any complicated tools/machines.
Some firecrackers have flash powder dont fuck with that unless your gun can take it.
Instead of real gunpowder i'm using matchheads mixed with the substance thats in caps for toy capguns by gently squeezing the caps with a plier and turn caps upside down the substance falls out which looks like granules. Using only matchheads works too but adding the substance from the caps gives it more power to shoot my home made matchlocks
Black powder needs to be made wet and blended, then dried and granulated to be truly mixed.
Match heads now are mostly not black powder, theyre willy pete (for my fellow army fellas) or white phos
Come Zombie time, I am on team Mike - lol
Some can make percussion caps 😅
It would be very interesting to see what happens if you use the striking surface of the matchbox and the heads i think it's called armstrong mix
But pressing in the ball could be a bit dangerous 🤔
It would be really interesting! But I don’t think I have the balls to find out, especially when ramming that lead ball in the barrel. Potassium Chlorate and red phosphorus are a nasty combo. In fact any chlorate composition has the potential to be pretty explosive.
@@explosivescience9389 yea thats true
Maybe wet the powder with alcohol ramm the ball in and let it dry ?
It can be used as an improvised primer for a percussion type gun, but I would never try it in a flintlock. Armstrong mix is considered to be a primary (read : unstable) explosive.
I was cringing with every hang fire you had!
Good powder requires special charcoal. Proper charcoal is FAR more important than process.
My Defender mk2 makes 62 fpe 600 fps 5000 psi HN grizzly. 357 smooth bore barrels
If I remember right you got to have some destilled Potato juice 95% is fine. to stop it from taking up the moisture from the air.
I hope you cleaned between shots, or you will have been trying to shoot the more difficult powders with the most fouled gun.
A look at a spit patch after each shot would have been useful info too.
BTW A screw in ball puller is a hand tool slimmer that the ramrod. Why would you need a workshop?
Personally I'd carry a silenced large calibre FAC air rifle, with spare screw on bottles, Katana, and a spear.
One thing you did after a FTF was point the flash hole at your face to look at it. Don't do that again unless you would like to be blind.
Good point. The reason I always wear glasses when working with explosives and guns. Simple mistakes can have severe consequences.
I live in Illinois and I can buy an AK 47 (semi auto) and it has the same requirements as black powder does.
What did we learn today? That blackpowder must have the correct grainsize!? you used diffrent sources of powder but to compare them in a scientific way, it seems the must have all the same grain size! I have the feeling, that oxy is missing if poder is to compact, but pls correct me!😀
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You dont want the flash hole full of powder....and you dont want your pan full of powder...that was your error....you want about 6 grains of powder in the pan & you dont want it up against the flash hole....run a pick into the hole to make sure its not obstructed with powder....you will get ignition instead of the fuse effect....