SHOULD NEW WORLD CHARGE FOR THIS EXPANSION ?

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  • čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
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    In this video I'm going to give my take on whether Amazon Games Studios should or shouldn't be charging for New World's first ever expansion 'Rise of The Angry Earth'.

Komentáře • 102

  • @LiamHYT
    @LiamHYT  Před rokem

    >>>>> Check me out LIVE playing New World www.twitch.tv/LiamH

  • @Discordian32
    @Discordian32 Před rokem +25

    Happy to buy the expansion based on the content it is showing. The price seems fair to me.

    • @dopeness5848
      @dopeness5848 Před rokem +7

      What lol. They reskinned a zone and gave you shit that should've been in game since release lol. A normal expansion gives you much more then that. Your getting taking for a schmuck from ags.

    • @archiemepsky4145
      @archiemepsky4145 Před rokem +3

      Nice try mturk drone.

    • @aortenzio
      @aortenzio Před rokem

      What a sucker

    • @Settiis
      @Settiis Před rokem +4

      Bruh we already paid alot for this grindfest of a game, this expansion should be 100% free.

    • @Onticly
      @Onticly Před rokem +2

      if you played any other mmorpg you'd think this is a joke in comparison

  • @jacobgill26
    @jacobgill26 Před rokem +6

    If they're charging for expansions they better change their other monetization options, like paying for transmog...

    • @billlam7756
      @billlam7756 Před rokem +2

      It's not like you cant earn them? These are just cosmetics, zero ptw so I dont see what's the big deal. Other game company are way way more atrocious when come to monetization

    • @tc-one3749
      @tc-one3749 Před rokem

      ​@@billlam7756like Activision blizzard 🤮🤮

    • @jacobgill26
      @jacobgill26 Před rokem +1

      @@billlam7756 Yes it's purely cosmetic, but I feel like it takes away from the experience when everything cosmetic is on the cash shop. Also with instances where there's an inconvenience like the gearing system so they introduce gear sets but monetize the quality of life improvment is sleezy.

    • @billlam7756
      @billlam7756 Před rokem

      @@jacobgill26 it ain't the best system but atleast we have something and tbh most of the gear look like ass. Theres only like a handful of set that actually look decent

    • @Onticly
      @Onticly Před rokem +1

      @@billlam7756 that's such a poor excuse, "at least we have something". There's a reason devs get away with this bs. None of it is player friendly. What's wrong with just making it paid with gold which is standard. Doesn't matter if most of the gear looks like ass, making it a token system is completely unfair.

  • @paulrobertsson8760
    @paulrobertsson8760 Před rokem +12

    Locking what is essentially a seasonal update, with core mechanics and less overall content than brimstone (which was free) behind a paywall that's nearly the price of the base game, is a surefire way to split the community and drive away returning players. Nobody is going to pay another $30 to get back a revamped zone they lost, access to mutations they lost, a basic weapon and a core game feature that has been requested since launch. They'll just play something else, likely for free.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx Před rokem +2

      “Nobody”? We will see about that 😂

    • @andyvierr10
      @andyvierr10 Před rokem +4

      You think the people making updates and adding new content shouldn’t get paid? Games thrive off of skins etc but with a lot of people buying the skins like csgo and rust. They have really good player numbers. New world get about 20-30k total players everyday. Peak 15k, but not everyone that actively plays new world is on at that time. We bought new world for what it’s worth. Got brimstone and other dungeons mutations for just buying the game. Anyone complaining about 30$ like asmongold said needs a reality check. Like just be happy it’s not a subscription every month game. Spectrum internet bill is literally 85$ a month like we sit here and pay companies ridiculous money and people cry about 30$…

    • @fpsregion
      @fpsregion Před rokem +2

      We don’t even know what’s all coming so I wouldn’t say it’s not worth it yet

    • @rdasantana6454
      @rdasantana6454 Před rokem +1

      Facts.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx Před rokem

      @@rdasantana6454 would you rather them create a new zone and leave more parts of aeternum completely abandoned? It’s a good move. Instead of leaving old FL to die, people will actually travel there now

  • @NatOSz8
    @NatOSz8 Před rokem +6

    Should be cheaper i think.

  • @StoNe-ji6bc
    @StoNe-ji6bc Před rokem +2

    New World I've played for 1658.6hrs and paid $69.95AU...that's a rate of just over 4 cents an hour of enjoyment I am receiving. $30 given the rebuild and content it's a barging given it's zero subscription.
    One reservation, knowing that existing players will lose access to mutations unless they upgrade, so some content will be removed for people who don't buy. That doesn't seem right to me.

  • @johnmc9073
    @johnmc9073 Před rokem +2

    if it was at least $15 then i would consider, it doesnt have enough content to have a $30 price tag

    • @tc-one3749
      @tc-one3749 Před rokem

      How do u know that if we don't know yet all the content they will give us in S3?
      And actually there are some leaks that confirm we will have much more than people expect.

  • @Kore_Invalid
    @Kore_Invalid Před rokem +1

    30€ for an expansion is fine but its not nearly enough content to warrant the title "epxansion". no new zones,no actual raids, no PvP content (new OPR map)

  • @86ericg
    @86ericg Před rokem +3

    I think 30 $ is to much we dont get a new zone we pay fore rewok first light and it will cost 40$ in canada

  • @ReadR00ster1
    @ReadR00ster1 Před rokem +1

    It's not about not being able to pay 30 dollars. There are just a lot of people that are just against pay to win and if it goes pay to win they will just say F this game out I'm out. it's not about the price. It's not about them charging for the expansion even. It's about the principle. Why should I play this game when there are other games out there that aren't pay to win? And don't tell me access to 100 attribute points and 9 extra perks on your gear too via artifacts is not pay to win. It is such a high amount of pay to win that you can't ever be more than trash in the game and have any fun at the game whatsoever if you don't pay the $30. It's like the mafia thugs showing up at your door saying, "Hey, nice fun you got there playing that New World there. Be a shame if something happen to it."

  • @knowlesyknowles5753
    @knowlesyknowles5753 Před rokem +2

    It is reasonable at 30, given no contributions from us have been made in 2 years and development and ongoing costs do in the real world exist. Though, to get the playerbase back up I would like to see the overall game cost go, by that the original cost should be free to play to get more people back into the game and then say every 12 to 18 months a new expansion - paid for should be released.......

  • @illesizs
    @illesizs Před rokem +3

    It's not about the money. It's about the principle.

  • @nervaniHQ
    @nervaniHQ Před rokem +1

    Why are you even talking about Ashes of Creation? A game that hasn't even been released yet xDDDD

  • @christopherdaffron8115
    @christopherdaffron8115 Před rokem +5

    I'm fine with the expansion price, but I think the base price for the game should be cheaper to encourage new players to join New World.

  • @Yrd3nn
    @Yrd3nn Před rokem +1

    paid expansion for a dying game is not a good idea, only 16k players left

  • @lf2game
    @lf2game Před rokem +3

    I'd say the price is definitely worth it. I've spent way more on single-player games that i played for like 100 - 200 hours.

  • @LumaTr1xx
    @LumaTr1xx Před rokem +7

    I agree with your take. If $30 is too much for an expansion then you have more important things to worry about.

    • @aortenzio
      @aortenzio Před rokem

      It’s not about it being too much it’s about it being an obvious money grab for something that should have been QOL. You guys are just a bunch of suckers with no real integrity for yourselves. Your getting hornswaggled and enjoy it.

    • @blackshadown
      @blackshadown Před rokem +1

      Yeah, of course... But what about those who don't buy it? This is a p2w aspect. Imagine a skin in the shop that would allow you to do what this expansion can do.

  • @Saivior
    @Saivior Před rokem

    For be a game with not pay to win stuff and also the fact that is not free to play and that everything for buying is just skins and related they have to eat from somewhere 🤷🏽‍♂️
    Also if mounts were not in this dlc nobody would have bought it 🤔

  • @GlenironPa
    @GlenironPa Před rokem

    I have gotten my monies worth at 4800 hrs played. $30 for an expansion, bring it. If $30 is too much for you then gaming isn't your thing.

  • @Z-MACx
    @Z-MACx Před rokem

    Nah haven’t charged for any content for 2 years. It’s about time for AGS to get some compensation

  • @Onticly
    @Onticly Před rokem +2

    All of the stupid decisions they've made and continue to make just shows how people shouldn't pay for this shit. It's not even an "expansion" compared to other mmorpgs just a glorified patch.

  • @shinryuzero
    @shinryuzero Před rokem

    The problem with the argument is that in WoW, even though it has box and subs - their game during launch was much better. NW has so many disappointing stuff, from bugs to unbalanced stuff and quality of life missing that should have already been there in the first place. Sure, you can argue all you want about NW being more cost saving and such but the bottom line is - Having the things that people wanted to be in the game and expected to be there in the first place - which led MAJORITY of the people to leave the game in the first place, then all of sudden, introduced those said things as a paid expansion and oh yes needing a higher spec requirement just to add salt to injury, really sounds like a rip-off at this point.
    No one is arguing that NW can have an expansion that needs to be paid. People like me who pays game in either subs or box understand that a company needs to earn. What people are pissed off is that the way AGS/NW went with it. They should just have made this expansion free since it has CORE SYSTEMS on it which should have been in the game in the first place. Then after that we can can talk about paid expansion. What AGS did right now is they alienated those who where just waiting to see the sincerity of AGS to first fix the game properly and providing the quality of life that should have been there in the first place. But they failed. Hard.
    Seriously, why not actually expanded the map, create a new zone where only 65 level players can come in where the artifact feature and 700 gear score gears can be dropped and unlocked. Put in the new zone new monsters and quests and the new dungeon then boom lock it in a DLC zone. Just let people level to 65 and have them get the mounts. It's a reward for those who played this game for 2 years.
    This is not my sentiments that I will say, but a couple of my friends who actually bought season pass and costumes just to support the game are quitting and most I know in IRL and in game after they found out that the expansion with the quality of life and the flail will be lock on a paid wall. I understand their reason and yeah they can buy the expansion no problem, but they also know in the long run it won't attract new players anymore.
    There's a reason why GW2 is popular, BDO has a resurgence and PoE as well. AGS has just shown that the last 2 years, they've just used people to test their game. Yes for 2 years we all become game testers.
    Anyway, I will still buy the expansion. I love the game so I will still continue to support it until the bitter end. I might not be able to play it as often now that majority of people I know are quitting after the announcement, already has quit or will not go back anymore because of the expansion announcement, but, at least I will try and support the devs - or rather the employees working on AGS. Hopefully their management wakes-up before it's too late.

  • @danielm.5219
    @danielm.5219 Před rokem +2

    Paying for the expansion is good it's a lot cheaper than paying for microtransactions wich can run into the hundreds or even thousands

  • @davidjaeger69
    @davidjaeger69 Před rokem +1

    30$ it's ok to me

  • @recofer123456789
    @recofer123456789 Před 11 měsíci

    when game came out they said its one time purchase but they lied again :D 900 hour int ne the game on release

  • @windy653
    @windy653 Před rokem +2

    Paying for this expansion will only encourage AGS to work harder than the past which is exactly what we need. I'll support a company that tries to accommodate the opinions/suggestions of their playerbase all day. Looking forward to this Fall!

  • @fpsregion
    @fpsregion Před rokem

    I didn’t see the problem with buying the expansion as long as it’s not pay to win. Otherwise it’s just like buying a dlc in like call of duty really

    • @blackshadown
      @blackshadown Před rokem +1

      It's is. With expansion you get stronger, faster... Without u are no longer competitive

    • @fpsregion
      @fpsregion Před rokem

      @@blackshadown garentee pvp is going to give out end game gear along with the max mutation and season events. Plenty of ways to get max gear outside the expansion..

  • @user-gd8vw3dm1h
    @user-gd8vw3dm1h Před rokem +4

    You are comparing subscription games that are worth their subscription price to new world which isn't even worth the 1 time purchase cost to most players that bought the game. They are not playing even without a subscription price tag they just don't find the game worth logging into even though they already own it. So adding another price tag just stops these players from wanting to log in even more.

  • @sno_au
    @sno_au Před rokem +2

    Im sad, the expansion doesn't add any new endgame activities, just fixing what is broken and adding 1 dungeon and a mount I dont care about. I will pass on New World now after 4000 hours. Devs don't respect our time, playtesting and feedback if they are going to make us, the loyal remaining few pay for an expansion to continue the same content we have now but just with another gear grind. It's not about the $30 to me, I've paid for all the season passes, bought all the gear sets done all the content 1000 times but I was just hoping for something new to play or experience. I was hoping the expansion would consist of at least some of the following; First Light and 1 other new land to explore, company housing, hairdresser npc, name change option, another pvp mode or 2, a level 60-70 level increase with story/cutscenes, mutated arenas, mini games to play at inn or in home with friends, new instruments, new soundtrack or company vs company practice war mode but we got no new end game except 1 dungeon and a new gear grind. I'm all for the game being great but I will pass the torch off to others and come back in a year when there might actually be something new to do instead of the same dungeons and the 1 "massive" pvp mode (i dont care for 3v3).

  • @shnuff5053
    @shnuff5053 Před rokem +2

    The game is 40 bucks, plus there is no monthly fee to play. So why not, paying for an expansion for 30 bucks is reasonable

  • @Morteris310
    @Morteris310 Před rokem

    Wow wow wow 30$ for this?I expected it to be free expansion tbh.This is almost the price for base game.I guess people will buy it because of mounts but i won't and don't recommend to waste 30$ for this bs.

  • @Linogewillkillallofy
    @Linogewillkillallofy Před rokem +1

    people play this game? now that is funny

  • @MattTrax119
    @MattTrax119 Před rokem +3

    the problem is lack of content and changes that are comming to the game for 30$ take GW2 for example that gives you new zones new mounts and a full new story for the same price sometimes even less

    • @fpsregion
      @fpsregion Před rokem +1

      You don’t even know what’s all coming yet tho they have barely talked about it

  • @rolandninoalcomendras4257

    Reasonable.

  • @razzafour6887
    @razzafour6887 Před rokem +1

    No !

  • @MasterFrostyGaming
    @MasterFrostyGaming Před rokem +1

    no

  • @Kaedrus
    @Kaedrus Před rokem +1

    They could of added 4 new zones, 5 weapons, mounts, artifact, 3 new pvp outpost rush maps, territory rework along with 40000 shop coins and 5 free gear slot tokens for $30. People would still whine about having to pay.
    I'll pay for it because I enjoy the game; bu..I mean features and all.

    • @ReadR00ster1
      @ReadR00ster1 Před rokem +1

      you just don't get it, pay for a bunch of non pay to win stuff is great, but this pay to win which should not be in any game.

    • @Kaedrus
      @Kaedrus Před rokem

      I don't think I'm the one that doesn't get it. If you can't afford $30 for an expansion. Then maybe you should look at your priorities. @@ReadR00ster1

  • @loukospapazitas6728
    @loukospapazitas6728 Před rokem

    Easy answer : YES , cause its their job to do so! Its not 1 game on arcade mode! Its an MMO with constant updatable content! Why is this so hard for new wannabe gamers/streamers to understand that? We have been paid NCSoft and Blizzard for 20 years straight 12$/month. So pay for the fvckin game!

  • @ReadR00ster1
    @ReadR00ster1 Před rokem

    I don't have a problem with paid expansion or the price (although I am not sure it's wise to monetize that way). What I have a problem with is that it's extremely Pay to Win having a bunch of character power locked behind a $30 pay wall. Also, I will NEVER play any game that has a mandatory subscription. I am strongly against that model. Also I think WoW is trash. It's why I play New World and not WoW, I am never going so don't ever give me WoW comparisons.

  • @Grimmnight16
    @Grimmnight16 Před rokem +2

    It is more than ok to support a game you like. People will always want stuff for free and people will always complain no matter what. They will grow up at some point and realize that a company needs to make money and that is the reason the game exists.

    • @aortenzio
      @aortenzio Před rokem +2

      Amazon makes plenty of money. They put out a broke game and expect you to pay for them to fix it even though it was their fault from the start. Don’t be a sucker

    • @Grimmnight16
      @Grimmnight16 Před rokem +1

      @@aortenzio stop putting your labels on people. I’ll support what I want when I want it. You got a problem with them making money then play something else and leave the rest of us alone

  • @FireIronArm
    @FireIronArm Před rokem

    I have already spent over 1.5k hours on the game and invested money into it. $30 is not bad, the people complaining don't seem dedicated to the games life span. Fair enough they have made us pay for transmog, skins, loadouts, etc. But devs need paying as it's their job, hopefully more money invested into the game can help them improve new world.

  • @candicelittle1309
    @candicelittle1309 Před rokem +2

    It's not a subscription model so I'm happy to pay for the expansion.

  • @anthonyjones8797
    @anthonyjones8797 Před rokem +1

    yes, definitely

  • @samf6173
    @samf6173 Před rokem

    I'm happier paying for an expansion like this and seasonal content than the quality of life stuff like the gearsets. They should not be paywalled in my opinion.

  • @doublehelix7880
    @doublehelix7880 Před rokem

    Having the expansions and DLCs being paid is a normal practice. I know that for the mommy's basement dwellers the fact that the game studios are businesses that need to pay salaries and bring profit will come as a huge surprise, but this is the reality in the world outside.

  • @richiesantinello8107
    @richiesantinello8107 Před rokem

    Anyone complaining about 30 dollar's is insane.. if you cant cough up 30 bucks you need to rethink your life. Anyone that played dragonflight for 2 months you wasted 100 dollars

  • @tom-ssg-7627
    @tom-ssg-7627 Před rokem

    Daddy

  • @Apachito
    @Apachito Před rokem

    Ive been buying the destiny 2 expansions, the deluxe version with the season passes, every year. This is a discount for the content 😂

  • @GoTo2k
    @GoTo2k Před rokem

    I think the price of the expansion is fine but other parts of New World are bit too expensive. This includes the season pass, the transmog tokens and the base price of the game going forward. 20 Euros is on the pricey side when it comes to season passes and at the same time, it is a system that is a bit grindy and, honestly, boring. Then the transmog tokens: I guess that AGS looked at their skin prices and adjusted the token prices accordingly (slightly cheaper). However, I think that there would be a large section of the player base that would really enjoy collecting and unlocking large quantities of skins. With the current price (2 - 2.50 Euro per item), one has to be quite selective or spend a lot of money. Don't even get me started on their "free" option to get the tokens, might as well not exist. Finally, the base game price should be lowered so that there's a continuous flow of new players.

  • @TheFrankie168
    @TheFrankie168 Před 11 měsíci

    scam world

  • @topwing211
    @topwing211 Před rokem

    Brimstone was an expansion. Some peeps just want everything for free lol

  • @razzaqi9912
    @razzaqi9912 Před rokem +1

    I think 30$ is more than fair.

  • @fattahtirta1783
    @fattahtirta1783 Před rokem

    a little bit cheaper i guess lol
    we didnt get a new zone for that expansion lol

  • @parisgkgr
    @parisgkgr Před rokem +1

    Its ok to pay for expansion. Its a fair deal between us and the people who work for this game. Hope to not deal with a bug world version 2😂😂 we want more pve content. This is my only worry-concern-anxiet. Hope all flows gooddd

    • @fpsregion
      @fpsregion Před rokem

      Personally I think the whole game is mainly pve😂 we need more pvp content

  • @teleruin8686
    @teleruin8686 Před rokem

    Yes. Ofc it should be payed...
    We cannot have development without paying for it. devs can't work for free....
    It's the same price as 4 months of wow subscription...

    • @ReadR00ster1
      @ReadR00ster1 Před rokem

      They could make more money off it, if it was free because they game would attract more players and they already have good stuff to buy in the store like transmog tokens and gear slots, and season passes, and they could add level boost which returning players would buy. But they are too dumb and want to try follow the WoW model which only WoW with its immense popularity can get away with and New World is a barely alive mmo. They are making the same mistake ESO did, when they tried to force a mandatory subscription on buyers and no one bought it. It was miserable failure.

  • @winterhearted6780
    @winterhearted6780 Před rokem

    If $30 for an MMORPG expansion is too much for you, you probably should stop playing computer games and try to change something in your life.

  • @bigtimmothy7795
    @bigtimmothy7795 Před rokem

    If they had advertised it all pre-launch then it should be free. As of now I think it’s fair.

  • @SkyTon02
    @SkyTon02 Před rokem

    I prefer to buy it too, even the battle pass is worth the money.

  • @Cam-wi3tp
    @Cam-wi3tp Před rokem

    SHOULD NEW WORLD CHARGE FOR THIS EXPANSION ? Yes

  • @morkidien2486
    @morkidien2486 Před rokem +1

    sorry first 😂 and nice video. sad they are charging for content that should have been base game . Just to justify the new zone is an old zone reskin I don't think your ideas are wrong I just think AGS are lazy .

    • @nuvynavy999
      @nuvynavy999 Před rokem

      First light is most underated area. Litterally nobody will stay there only few. So they not wrong to rework it. And expansion is not just about first light but alot the game system will changes.

    • @razzaqi9912
      @razzaqi9912 Před rokem

      I think you are lazy, or at least according to your answer. It can hardly be called a reskin of an old zone. It is a new zone, no one went to first light other than the fort for pvp. The new zone looks completely different from ANYWHERE else in the game. Completely new biome, new mobs and new story. Hardly a reskin. Not to mention the tons of other things coming with expac that you did not mention, such as mounts along with a new taming life skill, level increase, GS increase and rework, new weapon, crafting lvl increase and rework, massive perk changes, artifacts with quests to increase item power, world pvp rework, complete loot rework, mutation changes and more, some stuff that i am sure we don't even know about yet. They should charge for it, whether you think it should have been in the game at release or not. It wasn't, but now its coming, people worked hard on it and the game will be much better for it. One can argue that anything that makes a game better "should have been in the core game". New World was not an MMO under development, and was rushed from a survival multiplayer game to the MMO we play now. Was it released prematurely? Definitely, but we still played it despite the flaws. I for one, am just happy to see the devs taking the game in a good direction, improving the core systems of the game. As much as i want more pvp content personally, i think this expansion is necessary to turn the core of the game into a solid core from which they can then expand the game with lots of new content.

    • @morkidien2486
      @morkidien2486 Před rokem

      @@razzaqi9912 I think you took this criticism too personally mate, im not a keyboard warrior and really don't care to enter some moronic debate over a video game I was just adding my two cents and supporting a content creator. I would as a professional ask you to seek help, it seems you care way too much about something that's not real.

    • @morkidien2486
      @morkidien2486 Před rokem

      Wait, what, no. That's my bad, I'm lazy when typing english and often forget the punctuation . I think we should have got a new zone and the reskin at the very least. if not a few new zones .

    • @morkidien2486
      @morkidien2486 Před rokem

      This is true and after thinking about how cheap the game is compared to others im a bit softer but this is pretty much a compulsory purchase for any lvl 60 due to how much existing content it also locks this is my main gripe @@nuvynavy999