Used to listen to J Vernon McGee everyday getting ready for school! I have his entire book series. Love him! I still listen to him on occasion online. Really great preaching! And I absolutely love Charles Ryrie! I've been using his Study Bible since I got my first one in 1980 for my birthday. I also have & studied most of his books. I find videos of him on CZcams speaking & will listen to those. He was really an intelligent man, but everything he wrote was able to be read & understood by us common folks! :)
Was on the Bible Bus from 81-88. My father bought the tapes for me after he came to faith after listening to His ministry. My first study Bible was a Ryrie study Bible. My second one was a MacArthur study Bible. Also listened to RadioBible Class and read the Our Daily Bread devotional. Talk about memories. Thank you Josh.
Used to listen to JVM on Trans World Radio on the Island of Guam in the 70s. I was like 7. Used to listen with my dad while riding round the island in his Datson truck.
I listened to "Through the Bible" each day in my high school parking lot during lunch hour - for two years. I vaguely knew that he was a Presbyterian minister, and didn't even know what he looked like until recently. After graduating from high school, I was licensed to preach in the United Methodist Church, and was assigned the Alto, Texas circuit while attending Lon Morris College in Jacksonville. He sounded a bit like Jimmy Stewart to me, and his knowledge of the more obscure books of the Bible eventually proved to be very helpful. Am very glad that I was blissfully unaware of squabbling egos nor anything to do the IFCA while listening to his folksy broadcasts...
J. Vernon McGee was awesome. I used to love his radio show. Thankfully his sermons are still available online. He was the kind of preacher I heard growing up. They didn't water things down and they definitely weren't politically correct.
One of my former denominations, chosen by my parents. Age 15 through 23. Left due to prohibitions against movies, playing cards, dancing. Never had problems with doctrine.
I have owned the McGee Bible commentary, studied Ryrie's Revised Dispensationalism, and read multiple MacArthur books. So glad to see the IFCA International being discussed here.
The Ryrie Study Bible is outstanding too Aaron and what I use for personal devotions. If I lived in or visited the States, an IFCAI church would be my first choice for finding fellowship.John McArthur's Grace Community Church is no longer affiliated to IFCAI. His Lordship salvation view after bringing out 'The Gospel According To Jesus' caused a bit of a stir but the cleavage came about with his position on limited atonement or particular redemption. Having said that, quite a few in IFCAI would still be 3-4 point Calvinists to this day.
@@bloodboughtbigphilr8266 Thank-you for the thoughtful reply. I have a few IFCAI churches near me so I guess I am blessed in that way. I didn't realize that there were several moderate Calvinists in the IFCAI being I don't know many Calvinists who hold to some forum of dispensational hermeneutic.
@@AarmOZ84 Johnny Mac would be by far the best known Calvinist dispensationalist today and before him,, probably James Montgomery Boice. Moderate 3-4 point Calvinists have always been well represented in dispensationalism though not as much today as in the past. Charles Ryrie was very much of this persuasion and it is one that I hold to. Arnold Fruchtenbaum and Thomas Ice would be modern day proponents of the same. Much blessing to you Brother.
There doesn't seem to be much separating IFCAI from more moderate independent Baptist groups, Open Brethren assemblies or the Evangelical Free Church of America. In the U.K. where I live, the non-denominational church I attend is affiliated to an informal network (the FIEC) very similar to IFCAI and who they have had fraternal links with in the past. However, the FIEC do not insist on dispensationalism, universal atonement (a significant number are 5 point Calvinists) or cessation of the sign gifts though these positions are represented by individual members. They are regarded as secondary issues not essential to salvation with freedom to make up your own mind.
I was raised in an IFCA church and left when I was in my early twenties. I'm happy to see they have moderated their stance on alcohol use to bring it in line with the Word of God. It's also pleasing to hear that they are standing firm against liberal, woke theology that seems to be infecting so many churches.
Could you please explain what you mean by "woke theology"? The Bible is literally filled with the passionate concern for social justice and moral conduct, so what are you against exactly?
@@bobbytutton3270 the IFCA church I attended had no problem enacting church discipline. Just my opinion based on my experience, I think they prohibited drinking alcohol from an over-abundance of zeal to be separate from the World. Same thing for dancing. Some of the older people didn't like playing cards or movies for the same reason, but that was never really pushed.
@@KingoftheJuice18 I will try to explain. I've seen churches that have tried to promote the idea of generational sin, the concept that you and I are guilty of the sins of our forefathers and we need to "repent" and somehow atone for them. Scripture clearly says that each of us is accountable for our own sins. If your great-grandfather owned slaves, that's something he's responsible for and not you. If your great-grandmother was a slave you are not owed recompense. Also, I'm seeing churches accepting sinful practices in the name of love. When Jesus kept company with tax collectors and sinners, they were the ones changed, not him. We are responsible to share the love of God by speaking Truth. Sin is not okay. Each of us has broken God's commandments and we need to repent, turn from, our sins and walk according to the Scripture in newness of life and the Holy Spirit. These are two examples of what I mean. I hope I was clear enough.
@@dawnmichelle4403 Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I'll share a couple of things in return. So-called "wokeness" is not about anyone being guilty for what their grandparents did. It's about learning how what our grandparents did often still affects how we live today. The reality of past slavery (to take that example) still impacts the present day world in many ways, and molds the society we live in. Scripture calls us to recognize those moral inequities and iniquities that remain, to be righteous in all our ways, and to face the truth of our conduct. (You noted this last demand yourself in your comment.) Scripture is also pretty clear, I believe, about the principle of societal and collective responsibility. As I'm sure you're aware, God often holds entire nations or communities responsible for their conduct together. I stress this because sometimes conservatives place too much emphasis on isolated individuals. In the spirit of the prophets of Israel (although, of course, usually not as eloquently or powerfully), social justice movements today and "wokeness" ask us to look at things on the level of the whole community. Finally, just one specific biblical example to challenge your reservations about slavery reparations a little bit: When Israel left Egypt, Moses instructed them to take great amounts of wealth from the Egyptians (Exodus 11:2-3 and 12:35-36; see also Genesis 15:14), and God made this possible. Many commentators see this "borrowing" as payment for hundreds of years of harsh slavery which the Israelites had endured. It may even have been meant, in part, to help redeem some of the Egyptians' guilt. I don't believe the American slaves were ever properly compensated for all they were forced to do. On the contrary.
I love TTB! I have an app on my phone, and I set it to a book and let it play a couple hours while I nap, or all night when the Mrs. and I decide I should sleep downstairs for some reason.
This was definitely my childhood. I even wound up spending a year at Bethesda Home For Girls, a Lester Roloff home, in the 70s while he was still alive. As much as I hated it, strangely enough even at the time (and still) I loved Bro Roloff and his preaching. I REALLY love his preaching now lol. Many of his sermons are on YT. And though I was a little bitter for a few years after leaving the Home (being a very rebellious teen and young adult) , I have come to appreciate a few things about my time there. I am grateful for a grounding in faith which never left me even in my worst days. I spent a lot of time rebelling and being scared of my own rebellion.
Thank you, Joshua. I have listened to and learned something from all of those names you highlighted. But, I knew nothing about their religious affiliations and litmus tests thereof. Honestly, I think every human being has the potential to be completely right on some Bible interpretations, and missing Christ in other issues upon which they base their beliefs. Well done.
I love the content of these videos. Often, we judge before we listen. This leads to folks walking around thinking that there is only one way to practice being a Christian. Of course, there is only one way to be a Christian, namely, that one comes through Jesus. Interesting and important stuff 😊
I'm Baptist, but was part of an IFCA church for a while (as far as I was concerned, it was basically a Baptist church theologically and culturally). We joined the IFCA church when I was an older teen, but we joined because the pastor was Baptist. Later, an IFCA ordained pastor ended up leading the church for a while, and that was when I learned more about the IFCA. That IFCA pastor actually officiated my wedding. I strongly dislike John MacArthur, and would never want to be part of group to which he is affiliated. I don't think I knew he was part of the IFCA when I was part of it. Im also disappointed his school "The Masters College and Seminary" are affiliated. I have lost friendships with good friends once they went to MacArthur's school. Not only legalistic, but they are so extremely ceasalsationist that they basically seem to redefine God as this impersonal force (they would NEVER say that, but their relationship with God, and how they are allowed to apply scripture is totally robotic. I do like the other IFCA-affiliated men mentioned at the beginning of this video.
Your hatred of MacArthur seems to run deep. If you don't want to be a part of any group to which he is affiliated, you might consider that he is affiliated with the universal church and body of Christ. He is your brother. You can disagree with him, but the vitriol that is displayed in this post comments more on your heart than his.
@@kwfinken Kevin, I used to view John MacArthur in a good light ( I've listened to dozens of his tapes and read many of his books). But when I read his very very poor critique of Charles Finney, I lost all respect for him because what he wrote was super poor historical scholarship and based on John reading hyper Calvinists who opposed Finney's "New Measures" and not reading Finney for himself . I'm not calling MacArthur a liar, but just another bad historian and poor theologian and a heretic compared to the Once Delivered Faith recorded in the Scriptures and the Apostolic Tradition. That he holds to "dispensational theology" shows that he doesn't know his Bible very well, nor the teaching of those whom the Apostles ordained. MacArthur has led many astray and I bet the Apostle Paul would have very harsh words against him, much harsher than Janelle.
Thank you so much for this education. Now I know why I have been so uncomfortable going to a local church with my neighbors (as an attempt at healing my severe church PTSD from childhood & beyond). The cold unfriendly, to the point of being rude, smug "righteousness" of most the people I have met there is understandable now!!! As a divorved woman with no children, 3 college degrees, a voracious life- long learner of many topics & issues, a heavy science career background; who grew up in L.A. in the 1970's & 80's, who loves punk music; and actually has a brain to think with....No Wonder these people were all so rude & cold over my 6 months of trying to be open to returning to church has been such a disaster and why my intuition was strongly telling me that these people there found me so threatening & offensive. As an example, not one of those patriach elders dudes have said one single word to me ever & most won't even look at me, even when sitting across from them at a meal or in Sunday School class. It is just so outrageous!! These folks are so pure & righteous & rigid that they actually seem pretty Anti- Jesus to me. And they are definently not very " loving" at all; more hating others not like them.
I'm sorry, that happened my own church is not like that. I live in rural Oregon (NE) loosely Baptist, they are not heavily Calvinist. My late wife was well educated, and had questions for leadership at our old Church. Similar problems, we didn't have children. She was such a problem they made her Librarian at the school. 😁 Don't give up, but I don't blame you. Intelligence is a blessing not a problem
LOL, I attended a rather conservative Christian school and would run into IFCA folks from time to time. While I agreed with them on many points (and disagreed on many more), it seemed like they were so militaristically dogmatic that I simply referred to them as "I Fight Christians Anywhere." If any IFCA church embraced contemporary worship, that would be relatively new (and surprising) - every one I was aware was very traditional hymnal based - mostly using the piano and shunning most other instruments (drums are of the devil). My experience is from the Deep South, so other parts might be different. I'm actually surprised DTS folks would be associated with IFCA, while DTS is huge on dispensationalism most of their students go to pastor CMA, EFCA, Brethren Grace, or simply unaffiliated "bible churches." Also, DTS seems to favor the NASB or NKJV but most IFCA are strict 1611 KJV types.
Jason, I think you will be glad to know that IFCA churches today often use contemporay Christian music that is sound theologically. Conteporary songs are even sung at the national convention. All kinds of instruments are used depending on the church. I have run into the "I Fight Christians Anywhere" idea, too, and I think many years ago it was true. Things have changed dramatically in that regard for the better.
@@rdrift1879 That's good to hear. My experience was from 25 years ago in the Deep South. My school was (still is) Independent Methodist - which was a bit of an odd ball, but it happened to be the best school in town that my parents could afford.
That was our IFCA church during the 60s. The IFCA church in our town does sinf and play contemporary Christian music. Not so in the past. They also sing hymns.
Sounds like normal Christianity to me. My church isn't a member church, but it is in agreement with much of what IFCA stands for. The two members I recognize by name are J. Vernon McGee and John MacArthur. Through the Bible plays in perpetuity on the Radio and many of MacArthur's books have been used for Bible study at church through the years.
I love this channel and its content, but I can’t help but think of the host as AI generated. I’m not sure why but the angle and filter made me think it was an AI avatar until I realized it wasn’t. Thanks so much for the info you share!
@@Hark1677 Not Biblical enough, according to the Apostolic Fathers, the Early Church, and the vast majority of Christian's interpretation of Holy Scripture.
HI - did you know there is another group call the IFCA The International Fellowship of Christian Christian Assemblies - formerly known as Christian Church of North America (aka - Italian AOG)
MacArthur, being a Calvinist, teaches that God doesn't want to save most people, Jesus didn't die for most people, and that God ordains all sin (not just that He can use it for good, but that He actually want it to happen - which is why it happens). Although many Calvinists are very godly people - the belief of Calvinism is heretical, plain and simple
The IFCA is not as narrow as the IFB churches. They accept modern Bible translations and are not against friendships and cooperation with conservative Evangelicals.
It looked like he was reading denomination literature about _their_ view of the Catholic view of salvation. Still, you are right. Anybody who says Catholics believed in earned salvation just doesn't understand the doctrine.
Most reputable resources (see, for instance, the medical articles on the Johns Hopkins website) classify them as male. The Y chromosome determines sex, regardless of whether the individual has Jacobs Syndrome or Klinefelter Syndrome.
Glad to see they have moved away from the Prohibition tradition and regained a balanced view of alcohol based on the Bible rather than cultural issues of a hundred years ago. There is a lot to like about this group but also a few issues I disagree with them on.
What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below. New Covenant Whole Gospel: Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. Watch the CZcams videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
"Sola Scriptura" is of itself is an oxymoron Well, it's pretty obvious, the Protestants are not guided by the Scripture and like the Adventist's they do to scripture whatever they want. Example: The scripture says to obey the Church or else be a publican. They choose instead to persecute the church as the Adventist do this day to justify themselves. The scripture says to obey the bishops of the Church and the Protestants like the Adventist choose rather to persecute the Bishops of the Church rather than obey them. Nothing new. The scripture does not preach Sola Scriptura, the Protestants do. Actually, there is no such thing as Sola Scriptura. Nonetheless, the Protestants for the most part are not so grossly ignorant that they don't understand the Sabbath was required to be kept by the circumcised Jews and not Gentile nations or Christians. Anyone with a little bit of sense and thoughtful moments of complete honesty and humility can see that Scripture alone is not taught in the bible, because, the bible didn't put itself together, *men* both wrote and canonized scripture. Thus, men were very involved in the selection of what is scripture and what is not. And, the Protestants nor the Adventist's and their like had no part of *any of those decisions!* , except that, the Protestants and the Adventist's have tampered with the scriptures and removed all that they could get away with, so as not to incriminate themselves. In other words, they shot the messenger, when the messenger didn't agree with them. The same as the Adventist's. That's how you all ended up with "66" ominous number of books in the bible, instead of the Catholics 73 (the number of Divine Completion) The gross ignorance of both Protestantism is beautifully displayed by their hatred blinding of the very fact, Jerusalem of the Sabbath keepers is the city that sits on 7 hills and is the Harlot (13 times) in the scriptures that persecuted and murdered their own prophets, before persecuting and murdering Chrisst and the Apostles as Christ himself prophesied in Mt. 23, saying to the devout self-righteous Sabbath keeping Pharisees, "Mt. 23:34 "..behold, *I send unto YOU prophets, and wise men* , and scribes: and *of them *YOU shall kill and crucify;* Christ to the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23:34… : and. of them shall YOU scourge in *your synagogues,* and *persecute them from city to city* : (Rev. 17vs 6) 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, *thou that KILLETH the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee* . Christ says to *the Sabbath keepers* Mt. 23 :35 That upon YOU may come *ALL the Righteous blood shed upon the earth* ,from the BLOOD OF RIGHTEOUS ABEL unto NOW! the blood of Zacharias Son of Barachias, whom YOU SLEW between the temple and the altar.** ......[COMPARE WITH* Rev. 18:24* And in her was found *the blood of prophets, and of saints* , and *of ALL that were slain upon the earth.* NOW NOTICE *Rev. 18:20* Rejoice over HER, thou heaven, and ye *holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged YOU on HER* Now you know who the "HER" is in Rev. 18. *The Sabbath keepers killed Christ, the prophets and the* *"Holy Apostles"* and their prophets! it's plain and simple. You can see the problem. This is the way the Apostle Paul put it...1Thess 4:14 *even as they have of the Jews (the Sabbath Keepers) 15 *Who both KILLED the Lord Jesus, and KILLED their own prophets, and have PERSECUTED us; and they PLEASE not God, and are CONTRARY to all men* . Finally, in the book of Revelation Chapter 12 we see Satan *making war with the saints* , and unmistakably, it is the Sabbath keepers that were stalking the Apostles and the followers of Christ. In Rev. 17:6 But, like the blind rage of so many of the heretics, the Adventist calls, hero's, the looked to scripture not for truth, but to justify themselves. They called the Church of Rome, the "Harlot" of Revelation, while the scripture expresses *love, admiration and unending protection of the church of Rome until Satan is crushed under her feet.* Therefore, many have fallen from the faith, and deceive themselves as the Adventist's do to this day, even though, Christ warned them false prophets would come, they still love and obey them, rather than believe Christ. Nonetheless, all the sleazy games played by the Adventist's and the Protestants will one day be shown for what it is. Meanwhile, like the drug pusher and criminal who hasn't been before the Judge yet, they think *they are getting away with it.* Eccl. 12: 14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with EVERY SECRET THING whether it be good, or whether it be EVIL
Yeah, I'm a Baptist and while I disagree with the Catholic view it is *far* from what many of my fellow Protestants think it is. Misrepresenting it does no one any favors.
That "critical race theory" bit threw me off a little. Like, I know a lot of conservatives think like that but I didn't know they just flat out state in their doctrine that racism doesn't exist :D Which is funny considering racism (and systemic racism) is such a prominent theme in the new testament.
*DID YOU KNOW* If Mary named Yahshua (Jesus), the *proper* name: *"Rock"* , Christ's name would have been *"Cephas"* (John 1:42, 1Cor. 1:12, 3:22, 9:5, Gal. 2:9) in the Aramaic and *"Petros"* in the Greek, and "Peter" in the Greek to English. There is only ONE way to Say the *proper* name ROCK and that is CEPHAS in the Aramaic and PETROS in the Greek. If Mary had named Christ "Rock" we would all be calling Christ *"Cephas or Peter"* THINK ABOUT IT.
Yashua is a malapropism. The Aramaic is Yeshua. In the Old Testament, the same name was called Joshua. It means, "the Lord Saves." If Mary had named Christ "Rock," then he would not have been the Christ.
@@joshuakarr-BibleMan incorrect. If Mary had named Jesus, "Rock" , his name would be Cephas in the Aramaic and Peter in the Greek. There is no argument about it. Yahshua is Joshua, not Rock. New Thayer's Greek - Engish Lexicon says concerning 2786 "Cephas" "A ROCK", the surname of Simon the Apostle: John 1:42, 1Cor. 1:12, 3:22; 4:5 (which reads, "the rock that followed them was Christ), 15:5, and also in Gal.1:18, 2:11, 14." The New Strongs Exhaustive Dictionary says this, "2786. Keµphas, kay-fas´; of Chald. or. [comp. 3710]; the Rock; Cephas (i.e. Kepha), a surname of Peter:- Cephas. Related to this word is the Kefa from the Hebrew which is #3710 which reads as follows: 3710.e keÆph, kafe; from 3721; a hollow rock:- rock." In every case when the word "Cephas" is used it only means "rock" not pebble or stone. The name Peter is the transliteration of the word "Cephas" from the Aramaic to the Greek. Cephas only means "rock". Harper Collins Bible Dictionary page 173 remarks on the name "Cephas" "From the Aramaic kay fa Rock, a surname equivalent to Peter, cf John1:42, Matt.16:17-18." The New Oxford Annotated Bible page 149 says concerning John 1:42, "In Aramaic Cephas (Grk Petros) means rock, cf Matt.16:18. "The gospel does not over look however, the eminence of Peter in early tradition. He receives from Jesus , at the same time of his calling the special name *"Rock"* at a critical moment in Jesus' ministry. Peter leads the other disciples in loyalty and confession of fait and Peter will assure his prominent role." (Interpreters One Volume Commentary pp 711) "Peter, personal name meaning, Rock. Cephas most frequently used by Paul. *Cephas and Peter both mean Rock."* (Hohman Bible Dictionary, pp 1098) Peter ("stone; rock"), a fisherman called to be an apostle of Christ. He became one of the leaders of the early church (Matt. 4:18-20; 16:15-19; Acts 2). *Christ changed this man's name from Simon to a name meaning* "rock" (Cephas in Aramaic, Peter in Greek). James I. Packer, Merrill C. Tenney and William White, Jr., editors, Nelson's illustrated manners and customs of the Bible [computer file], electronic ed., Logos Library System, (Nashville: Thomas Nelson) 1997, c1995. "Cephas [se fes] (Gr. Kephas, from Aram. Kepa "Rock")." The Errdmans Bible Dictionary pp 199. ^THE FACT IS THAT PETER WAS ALREADY KNOWN AS* *"ROCK"* LONG BEFORE MATT. 16. I could give volumes more that agree including A.T. Robertson, DA Carson and a host of others. *Not one of them think Peter or Cephas means* " a piece of a rock" or pebble NASB on John 1:42 says, "Cephas means rock" . NAB on Mt. 16: says, " You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, the Aramaic word kepa meaning rock and transliterated in the Greek as Kephas is the name by which Peter is called in the Pauline letters. It is translated as Petros (Peter) in John 1:42. The presumed original Aramaic of Jesus statement would have been in English, " You are Rock (Kepa) and up this (Kepa) I will build my church. The Greek text probably means the same thing, for the difference in gender between the masculine noun petros, the disciples new name and the feminine noun Petra (rock) may be due simply to the unsuitability of using a feminine noun as the proper name of a male." page 35 New American Bible. pg 1946 “Nothing give evidence of Peter’s Rock-like Character as does this Epistle (1Peter). King James Study Bible, Thomas Nelson Publishers John 1:42 Life Application Study Bible NIV, Tyndale House Publishing and Zondervan Publishing House Copyright. Pg 1873 “Jesus saw not only who Simon was, but who he would become. That is why he gave him a new name. Cehpas in Aramaic Peter in Greek, (means Rock). The NASB foot notes John 1:42 the word "Cephas" and says, Cephas means Rock. The New Revised Standard Version: John 1:42 The foot note at the word "Peter" reads From the word, "rock" ( "Cephas") and the Greek word, "Petra" (Peter) . The reason being that in Matt. 16: Petra and Petros MEAN THE SAME THING. IF CHRIST WANTED TO SAY PETER WAS A LITTLE STONE HE WOULD HAVE USED THE WORD "LITHO" NOT PETROS. If Christ wanted to call Peter a "stone" he would have used the word "LITHO" WHICH MEANS STONE NOT PETROS, WHICH IS A ROCK. The New Century Bible on John 1:42 (NCV) Footnote at the word "Cephas" says, "Peter, the Greek name Peter like the Aramaic Cephas means "rock" The Contemporary English Version footnote on John 1:42 "Peter: Aramaic name Cephas and the Greek name Peter means "rock" . New Living Translation foot note on John 1:42 says, "The names Cephas and Peter mean rock" .
@@oliveri9407 Essentially all Christian sects can potentially be pointed to as being heretical by referring to individual passages. Referring to your fellow man, especially ones you have so much in common with, as heretical is not going to lead you anywhere good
@Oliver I As a matter of fact, I have read that passage countless times. Can you tell me how a denomination that embraces the entirety of Scripture as God-breathed instruction, professes the entire Gospel necessary for salvation, and strives to obey the commands if Jesus in order to glorify God, is heretical? Don't hang your entire faith on one minor point of contention. The Greek uses different words for "rock" in this passage. The group were near Caesarea Philippi, where myriad pagan shrines, including a cave entrance called the Gates of Hell, resided in a small valley under a rock. At no point does Jesus assign Peter authority over the entire church, or even over the other disciples. It is good to have structure and it is good to have a final authority to decide a denomination's position on an arguable point in Scripture, but you take it too far.
In my faith Genesis 1 is an account of spirits being created for this earth. The "days" are days in Heaven, as the sun is not created until the 4th day. God rests for one of HIs days after Genesis 1, but never rests after Genesis 2. So Genesis 2 is a continuation of creation in which it tells of spirits being given a physical body by two things coming together, the breath of life spirit created in Genesis 1, and the dust of the ground. Thus we do not have an account of the creation of our physical earth and the universe it is in. And the evidence that it is very old must be correct.
You know what they call expanding time in Genesis to allow for an old earth mindset? God of the Gaps. You know the pagan deity whose worship led to the death of over 20,000 Israelites on the way to the Promised Land? Baal Peor. Do you know what Baal Peor translates to in English? God of the opening/hole/entrance/gap.
Used to listen to J Vernon McGee everyday getting ready for school! I have his entire book series. Love him! I still listen to him on occasion online. Really great preaching! And I absolutely love Charles Ryrie! I've been using his Study Bible since I got my first one in 1980 for my birthday. I also have & studied most of his books. I find videos of him on CZcams speaking & will listen to those. He was really an intelligent man, but everything he wrote was able to be read & understood by us common folks! :)
Just started listening to them on CZcams I was amazed at how charismatic he is and how he can give such insight in plain words!
Was on the Bible Bus from 81-88. My father bought the tapes for me after he came to faith after listening to His ministry. My first study Bible was a Ryrie study Bible. My second one was a MacArthur study Bible. Also listened to RadioBible Class and read the Our Daily Bread devotional. Talk about memories. Thank you Josh.
Used to listen to JVM on Trans World Radio on the Island of Guam in the 70s. I was like 7. Used to listen with my dad while riding round the island in his Datson truck.
I listened to "Through the Bible" each day in my high school parking lot during lunch hour - for two years.
I vaguely knew that he was a Presbyterian minister, and didn't even know what he looked like until recently. After graduating from high school, I was licensed to preach in the United Methodist Church, and was assigned the Alto, Texas circuit while attending Lon Morris College in Jacksonville. He sounded a bit like Jimmy Stewart to me, and his knowledge of the more obscure books of the Bible eventually proved to be very helpful. Am very glad that I was blissfully unaware of squabbling egos nor anything to do the IFCA while listening to his folksy broadcasts...
J. Vernon McGee was awesome. I used to love his radio show. Thankfully his sermons are still available online. He was the kind of preacher I heard growing up. They didn't water things down and they definitely weren't politically correct.
Another thought provoking video. I keep learning all the time. Thanks.
Hey my childhood finally showed up on the channel!
Mine, too! ❤️
One of my former denominations, chosen by my parents. Age 15 through 23. Left due to prohibitions against movies, playing cards, dancing. Never had problems with doctrine.
Church of the Nazarene?
@@RUT812 no, IFCA
A lot of Movies promote sin as Ok, Playing cards can be linked to gambling and dancing with one you are not married to can lead to sin.
@@Idahorokon A lot of books promote sin so the bible should be prohibited. Going outside leads to Sin so going outside should be prohibited.
Currently, the IFCA has no position on cards, movies, or dancing. It is possible a local church had those restrictions.
I have owned the McGee Bible commentary, studied Ryrie's Revised Dispensationalism, and read multiple MacArthur books. So glad to see the IFCA International being discussed here.
The Ryrie Study Bible is outstanding too Aaron and what I use for personal devotions. If I lived in or visited the States, an IFCAI church would be my first choice for finding fellowship.John McArthur's Grace Community Church is no longer affiliated to IFCAI. His Lordship salvation view after bringing out 'The Gospel According To Jesus' caused a bit of a stir but the cleavage came about with his position on limited atonement or particular redemption. Having said that, quite a few in IFCAI would still be 3-4 point Calvinists to this day.
@@bloodboughtbigphilr8266 Thank-you for the thoughtful reply. I have a few IFCAI churches near me so I guess I am blessed in that way. I didn't realize that there were several moderate Calvinists in the IFCAI being I don't know many Calvinists who hold to some forum of dispensational hermeneutic.
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Johnny Mac would be by far the best known Calvinist dispensationalist today and before him,, probably James Montgomery Boice. Moderate 3-4 point Calvinists have always been well represented in dispensationalism though not as much today as in the past. Charles Ryrie was very much of this persuasion and it is one that I hold to. Arnold Fruchtenbaum and Thomas Ice would be modern day proponents of the same. Much blessing to you Brother.
There doesn't seem to be much separating IFCAI from more moderate independent Baptist groups, Open Brethren assemblies or the Evangelical Free Church of America. In the U.K. where I live, the non-denominational church I attend is affiliated to an informal network (the FIEC) very similar to IFCAI and who they have had fraternal links with in the past. However, the FIEC do not insist on dispensationalism, universal atonement (a significant number are 5 point Calvinists) or cessation of the sign gifts though these positions are represented by individual members. They are regarded as secondary issues not essential to salvation with freedom to make up your own mind.
I was raised in an IFCA church and left when I was in my early twenties. I'm happy to see they have moderated their stance on alcohol use to bring it in line with the Word of God. It's also pleasing to hear that they are standing firm against liberal, woke theology that seems to be infecting so many churches.
IMHO - a church will have a total prohibition agaisnt booze - because they dont want to deal with church discipline.
Could you please explain what you mean by "woke theology"? The Bible is literally filled with the passionate concern for social justice and moral conduct, so what are you against exactly?
@@bobbytutton3270 the IFCA church I attended had no problem enacting church discipline. Just my opinion based on my experience, I think they prohibited drinking alcohol from an over-abundance of zeal to be separate from the World. Same thing for dancing. Some of the older people didn't like playing cards or movies for the same reason, but that was never really pushed.
@@KingoftheJuice18 I will try to explain. I've seen churches that have tried to promote the idea of generational sin, the concept that you and I are guilty of the sins of our forefathers and we need to "repent" and somehow atone for them. Scripture clearly says that each of us is accountable for our own sins. If your great-grandfather owned slaves, that's something he's responsible for and not you. If your great-grandmother was a slave you are not owed recompense.
Also, I'm seeing churches accepting sinful practices in the name of love. When Jesus kept company with tax collectors and sinners, they were the ones changed, not him. We are responsible to share the love of God by speaking Truth. Sin is not okay. Each of us has broken God's commandments and we need to repent, turn from, our sins and walk according to the Scripture in newness of life and the Holy Spirit.
These are two examples of what I mean. I hope I was clear enough.
@@dawnmichelle4403 Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I'll share a couple of things in return. So-called "wokeness" is not about anyone being guilty for what their grandparents did. It's about learning how what our grandparents did often still affects how we live today. The reality of past slavery (to take that example) still impacts the present day world in many ways, and molds the society we live in.
Scripture calls us to recognize those moral inequities and iniquities that remain, to be righteous in all our ways, and to face the truth of our conduct. (You noted this last demand yourself in your comment.) Scripture is also pretty clear, I believe, about the principle of societal and collective responsibility. As I'm sure you're aware, God often holds entire nations or communities responsible for their conduct together. I stress this because sometimes conservatives place too much emphasis on isolated individuals. In the spirit of the prophets of Israel (although, of course, usually not as eloquently or powerfully), social justice movements today and "wokeness" ask us to look at things on the level of the whole community.
Finally, just one specific biblical example to challenge your reservations about slavery reparations a little bit: When Israel left Egypt, Moses instructed them to take great amounts of wealth from the Egyptians (Exodus 11:2-3 and 12:35-36; see also Genesis 15:14), and God made this possible. Many commentators see this "borrowing" as payment for hundreds of years of harsh slavery which the Israelites had endured. It may even have been meant, in part, to help redeem some of the Egyptians' guilt. I don't believe the American slaves were ever properly compensated for all they were forced to do. On the contrary.
You have put a lot of research & effort into your orderly, easy to understand presentations. Very appreciated!
Thank you,Joshua🌹🌹🌹🌹
I love TTB!
I have an app on my phone, and I set it to a book and let it play a couple hours while I nap, or all night when the Mrs. and I decide I should sleep downstairs for some reason.
This was definitely my childhood. I even wound up spending a year at Bethesda Home For Girls, a Lester Roloff home, in the 70s while he was still alive. As much as I hated it, strangely enough even at the time (and still) I loved Bro Roloff and his preaching. I REALLY love his preaching now lol. Many of his sermons are on YT. And though I was a little bitter for a few years after leaving the Home (being a very rebellious teen and young adult) , I have come to appreciate a few things about my time there. I am grateful for a grounding in faith which never left me even in my worst days. I spent a lot of time rebelling and being scared of my own rebellion.
Thank you, Joshua. I have listened to and learned something from all of those names you highlighted. But, I knew nothing about their religious affiliations and litmus tests thereof. Honestly, I think every human being has the potential to be completely right on some Bible interpretations, and missing Christ in other issues upon which they base their beliefs. Well done.
Very interesting
I love the content of these videos. Often, we judge before we listen. This leads to folks walking around thinking that there is only one way to practice being a Christian. Of course, there is only one way to be a Christian, namely, that one comes through Jesus. Interesting and important stuff 😊
I'm Baptist, but was part of an IFCA church for a while (as far as I was concerned, it was basically a Baptist church theologically and culturally). We joined the IFCA church when I was an older teen, but we joined because the pastor was Baptist. Later, an IFCA ordained pastor ended up leading the church for a while, and that was when I learned more about the IFCA. That IFCA pastor actually officiated my wedding. I strongly dislike John MacArthur, and would never want to be part of group to which he is affiliated. I don't think I knew he was part of the IFCA when I was part of it. Im also disappointed his school "The Masters College and Seminary" are affiliated. I have lost friendships with good friends once they went to MacArthur's school. Not only legalistic, but they are so extremely ceasalsationist that they basically seem to redefine God as this impersonal force (they would NEVER say that, but their relationship with God, and how they are allowed to apply scripture is totally robotic. I do like the other IFCA-affiliated men mentioned at the beginning of this video.
Your hatred of MacArthur seems to run deep. If you don't want to be a part of any group to which he is affiliated, you might consider that he is affiliated with the universal church and body of Christ. He is your brother. You can disagree with him, but the vitriol that is displayed in this post comments more on your heart than his.
@@kwfinken very good point brother.
@@kwfinken Kevin,
I used to view John MacArthur in a good light ( I've listened to dozens of his tapes and read many of his books). But when I read his very very poor critique of Charles Finney, I lost all respect for him because what he wrote was super poor historical scholarship and based on John reading hyper Calvinists who opposed Finney's "New Measures" and not reading Finney for himself . I'm not calling MacArthur a liar, but just another bad historian and poor theologian and a heretic compared to the Once Delivered Faith recorded in the Scriptures and the Apostolic Tradition. That he holds to "dispensational theology" shows that he doesn't know his Bible very well, nor the teaching of those whom the Apostles ordained. MacArthur has led many astray and I bet the Apostle Paul would have very harsh words against him, much harsher than Janelle.
I agree with you, Janelle, on your dislike for John MacArthur, but for different reasons.
AKA - They are Baptist - just wont admit it! (ha-ha)
Please pray and offer sufferings daily for my salvation brothers and sisters, I have lived a very sinful life. Thank you!
Jesus offered his blood for your salvation, you don’t need to “suffer”, just believe and accept his gift of salvation
I have heard of M.R. Dehaan before, but this is the first time I learned what he was famous for.
Great research and content brother.
Thank you so much for this education. Now I know why I have been so uncomfortable going to a local church with my neighbors (as an attempt at healing my severe church PTSD from childhood & beyond). The cold unfriendly, to the point of being rude, smug "righteousness" of most the people I have met there is understandable now!!! As a divorved woman with no children, 3 college degrees, a voracious life- long learner of many topics & issues, a heavy science career background; who grew up in L.A. in the 1970's & 80's, who loves punk music; and actually has a brain to think with....No Wonder these people were all so rude & cold over my 6 months of trying to be open to returning to church has been such a disaster and why my intuition was strongly telling me that these people there found me so threatening & offensive.
As an example, not one of those patriach elders dudes have said one single word to me ever & most won't even look at me, even when sitting across from them at a meal or in Sunday School class.
It is just so outrageous!!
These folks are so pure & righteous & rigid that they actually seem pretty Anti- Jesus to me. And they are definently not very " loving" at all; more hating others not like them.
I'm sorry, that happened my own church is not like that. I live in rural Oregon (NE) loosely Baptist, they are not heavily Calvinist. My late wife was well educated, and had questions for leadership at our old Church. Similar problems, we didn't have children. She was such a problem they made her Librarian at the school. 😁 Don't give up, but I don't blame you. Intelligence is a blessing not a problem
Superb. Again.
LOL, I attended a rather conservative Christian school and would run into IFCA folks from time to time. While I agreed with them on many points (and disagreed on many more), it seemed like they were so militaristically dogmatic that I simply referred to them as "I Fight Christians Anywhere." If any IFCA church embraced contemporary worship, that would be relatively new (and surprising) - every one I was aware was very traditional hymnal based - mostly using the piano and shunning most other instruments (drums are of the devil). My experience is from the Deep South, so other parts might be different. I'm actually surprised DTS folks would be associated with IFCA, while DTS is huge on dispensationalism most of their students go to pastor CMA, EFCA, Brethren Grace, or simply unaffiliated "bible churches." Also, DTS seems to favor the NASB or NKJV but most IFCA are strict 1611 KJV types.
Jason, I think you will be glad to know that IFCA churches today often use contemporay Christian music that is sound theologically. Conteporary songs are even sung at the national convention. All kinds of instruments are used depending on the church. I have run into the "I Fight Christians Anywhere" idea, too, and I think many years ago it was true. Things have changed dramatically in that regard for the better.
@@rdrift1879 That's good to hear. My experience was from 25 years ago in the Deep South. My school was (still is) Independent Methodist - which was a bit of an odd ball, but it happened to be the best school in town that my parents could afford.
That was our IFCA church during the 60s. The IFCA church in our town does sinf and play contemporary Christian music. Not so in the past. They also sing hymns.
@@rdrift1879 you are absolutely correct.
Sounds like normal Christianity to me. My church isn't a member church, but it is in agreement with much of what IFCA stands for. The two members I recognize by name are J. Vernon McGee and John MacArthur. Through the Bible plays in perpetuity on the Radio and many of MacArthur's books have been used for Bible study at church through the years.
Sounds like a type of Christianity invented over 1600 years after Christ. It does not resemble the early Church.
I attended an IFCA church when I was in Bible College in the 80s. We used to joke that IFCA stood for "I Fight Christians Anywhere."
I love this channel and its content, but I can’t help but think of the host as AI generated. I’m not sure why but the angle and filter made me think it was an AI avatar until I realized it wasn’t.
Thanks so much for the info you share!
John MacArthur was the only name I had heard of in the opening.
And he’s a Calvinist.
@@RUT812 Gasp, a Calvinist! He’s too biblical
@@Hark1677 Not Biblical enough, according to the Apostolic Fathers, the Early Church, and the vast majority of Christian's interpretation of Holy Scripture.
A great group
My church is part of IFCA. It feels very independent
Can you do a video on the other IFCA ( International Fellowship of Christian Assemblies) former CCNA? Thanks!
HI - did you know there is another group call the IFCA The International Fellowship of Christian Christian Assemblies - formerly known as Christian Church of North America (aka - Italian AOG)
I do know about them. It's funny to see the groups get confused some of the time, though both are still relatively small.
The church is the fulfillment of faithful OT Israel.
No. Israel has not been replaced. You just have to understand that little in modern Jewry is made up of Israel.
I agree with most of it, but not with cessationism.
MacArthur, being a Calvinist, teaches that God doesn't want to save most people, Jesus didn't die for most people, and that God ordains all sin (not just that He can use it for good, but that He actually want it to happen - which is why it happens).
Although many Calvinists are very godly people - the belief of Calvinism is heretical, plain and simple
This is all fun stuff. J. Vernon McGee looked funny with that mustache and he sounded comical with all dat bible talk. Well it's buffet time.
I missed it o guess. Why did MacArthur leave in 2017?
due to the extent of the atonement. MacArthur is a 5-Point Calvinist and it sounds as if IFCA has taken the position of unlimited atonement.
The IFCA sounds pretty much like a convention of IFB churches. Why would it not be as such?
The IFCA is not as narrow as the IFB churches. They accept modern Bible translations and are not against friendships and cooperation with conservative Evangelicals.
Is Ready to Harvest part of the IFCA?
No
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His explanation of the Catholic view of salvation is not accurate at all.
It looked like he was reading denomination literature about _their_ view of the Catholic view of salvation.
Still, you are right.
Anybody who says Catholics believed in earned salvation just doesn't understand the doctrine.
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Agreed that this is not Joshua’s fault and that I should have been clearer.
10:29 Males have XY chromosomes; females have XX chromosomes. What about people with X, XYY and XXY chromosomes?
Good point. Troubles the mind, indeed.
The IFCA are creationists-I don't think their doctrine is really concerned with science.
Most reputable resources (see, for instance, the medical articles on the Johns Hopkins website) classify them as male. The Y chromosome determines sex, regardless of whether the individual has Jacobs Syndrome or Klinefelter Syndrome.
Unfortunately, they are disordered, according to Natural Law and science.
do they believe in landmarkism?
no
Glad to see they have moved away from the Prohibition tradition and regained a balanced view of alcohol based on the Bible rather than cultural issues of a hundred years ago. There is a lot to like about this group but also a few issues I disagree with them on.
Former Christian here I left because of these things. I learned the earth was not 6 literal days but 4.3 billion years ago.
What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word.
Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary.
What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below.
New Covenant Whole Gospel:
Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.
He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
Watch the CZcams videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
These folks sound like the "no fun allowed" crowd
I am in that crowd and have lots of fun!
With how in-depth this was, I have a suspicion we know his affiliation.
Funny how Protestants always seem to misrepresent Catholic teachings…
"Sola Scriptura" is of itself is an oxymoron
Well, it's pretty obvious, the Protestants are not guided by the Scripture and like the Adventist's they do to scripture whatever they want.
Example: The scripture says to obey the Church or else be a publican. They choose instead to persecute the church as the Adventist do this day to justify themselves.
The scripture says to obey the bishops of the Church and the Protestants like the Adventist choose rather to persecute the Bishops of the Church rather than obey them. Nothing new.
The scripture does not preach Sola Scriptura, the Protestants do. Actually, there is no such thing as Sola Scriptura.
Nonetheless, the Protestants for the most part are not so grossly ignorant that they don't understand the Sabbath was required to be kept by the circumcised Jews and not Gentile nations or Christians.
Anyone with a little bit of sense and thoughtful moments of complete honesty and humility can see that Scripture alone is not taught in the bible, because, the bible didn't put itself together, *men* both wrote and canonized scripture. Thus, men were very involved in the selection of what is scripture and what is not. And, the Protestants nor the Adventist's and their like had no part of *any of those decisions!* , except that, the Protestants and the Adventist's have tampered with the scriptures and removed all that they could get away with, so as not to incriminate themselves. In other words, they shot the messenger, when the messenger didn't agree with them. The same as the Adventist's. That's how you all ended up with "66" ominous number of books in the bible, instead of the Catholics 73 (the number of Divine Completion)
The gross ignorance of both Protestantism is beautifully displayed by their hatred blinding of the very fact, Jerusalem of the Sabbath keepers is the city that sits on 7 hills and is the Harlot (13 times) in the scriptures that persecuted and murdered their own prophets, before persecuting and murdering Chrisst and the Apostles as Christ himself prophesied in Mt. 23, saying to the devout self-righteous Sabbath keeping Pharisees, "Mt. 23:34 "..behold, *I send unto YOU prophets, and wise men* , and scribes: and *of them *YOU shall kill and crucify;*
Christ to the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23:34… : and. of them shall YOU scourge in *your synagogues,* and *persecute them from city to city* : (Rev. 17vs 6)
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, *thou that KILLETH the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee* .
Christ says to *the Sabbath keepers* Mt. 23 :35 That upon YOU may come *ALL the Righteous blood shed upon the earth* ,from the BLOOD OF RIGHTEOUS ABEL unto NOW! the blood of Zacharias Son of Barachias, whom YOU SLEW between the temple and the altar.** ......[COMPARE WITH* Rev. 18:24* And in her was found *the blood of prophets, and of saints* , and *of ALL that were slain upon the earth.* NOW NOTICE *Rev. 18:20* Rejoice over HER, thou heaven, and ye *holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged YOU on HER* Now you know who the "HER" is in Rev. 18.
*The Sabbath keepers killed Christ, the prophets and the* *"Holy Apostles"* and their prophets! it's plain and simple. You can see the problem. This is the way the Apostle Paul put it...1Thess 4:14 *even as they have of the Jews (the Sabbath Keepers) 15 *Who both KILLED the Lord Jesus, and KILLED their own prophets, and have PERSECUTED us; and they PLEASE not God, and are CONTRARY to all men* .
Finally, in the book of Revelation Chapter 12 we see Satan *making war with the saints* , and unmistakably, it is the Sabbath keepers that were stalking the Apostles and the followers of Christ. In Rev. 17:6
But, like the blind rage of so many of the heretics, the Adventist calls, hero's, the looked to scripture not for truth, but to justify themselves. They called the Church of Rome, the "Harlot" of Revelation, while the scripture expresses *love, admiration and unending protection of the church of Rome until Satan is crushed under her feet.* Therefore, many have fallen from the faith, and deceive themselves as the Adventist's do to this day, even though, Christ warned them false prophets would come, they still love and obey them, rather than believe Christ.
Nonetheless, all the sleazy games played by the Adventist's and the Protestants will one day be shown for what it is. Meanwhile, like the drug pusher and criminal who hasn't been before the Judge yet, they think *they are getting away with it.*
Eccl. 12: 14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with EVERY SECRET THING whether it be good, or whether it be EVIL
I’m a Lutheran, and it drives me crazy as well.
@@polycarpsmith1419
Funny how you misunderstand the bible
@She Royal
Tell me you have no idea what Catholics believe without telling me what Catholics believe.
Yeah, I'm a Baptist and while I disagree with the Catholic view it is *far* from what many of my fellow Protestants think it is. Misrepresenting it does no one any favors.
Hair splitting view on mode of baptism. Closed minded group too!
NO 3 ANGELES MESSAGE HERE.. NO RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH MESSAGE... NO DAY OF ATONEMENMT.. JUST... JUSTIFICATION OF CHOICES.
That "critical race theory" bit threw me off a little. Like, I know a lot of conservatives think like that but I didn't know they just flat out state in their doctrine that racism doesn't exist :D Which is funny considering racism (and systemic racism) is such a prominent theme in the new testament.
*DID YOU KNOW* If Mary named Yahshua (Jesus), the *proper* name: *"Rock"* , Christ's name would have been *"Cephas"* (John 1:42, 1Cor. 1:12, 3:22, 9:5, Gal. 2:9) in the Aramaic and *"Petros"* in the Greek, and "Peter" in the Greek to English. There is only ONE way to Say the *proper* name ROCK and that is CEPHAS in the Aramaic and PETROS in the Greek. If Mary had named Christ "Rock" we would all be calling Christ *"Cephas or Peter"* THINK ABOUT IT.
Chris Rock *rim shot sound effect*
The new Jesus better keep my wife's name out his fkn mouth.
Way over my head, like, whoosh!
Yashua is a malapropism.
The Aramaic is Yeshua.
In the Old Testament, the same name was called Joshua.
It means, "the Lord Saves."
If Mary had named Christ "Rock," then he would not have been the Christ.
@@joshuakarr-BibleMan incorrect. If Mary had named Jesus, "Rock" , his name would be Cephas in the Aramaic and Peter in the Greek. There is no argument about it.
Yahshua is Joshua, not Rock.
New Thayer's Greek - Engish Lexicon says concerning 2786 "Cephas" "A ROCK", the surname of Simon the Apostle: John 1:42, 1Cor. 1:12, 3:22; 4:5 (which reads, "the rock that followed them was Christ), 15:5, and also in Gal.1:18, 2:11, 14."
The New Strongs Exhaustive Dictionary says this, "2786. Keµphas, kay-fas´; of Chald. or. [comp. 3710]; the Rock; Cephas (i.e. Kepha), a surname of Peter:- Cephas.
Related to this word is the Kefa from the Hebrew which is #3710 which reads as follows: 3710.e keÆph, kafe; from 3721; a hollow rock:- rock." In every case when the word "Cephas" is used it only means "rock" not pebble or stone. The name Peter is the transliteration of the word "Cephas" from the Aramaic to the Greek. Cephas only means "rock".
Harper Collins Bible Dictionary page 173 remarks on the name "Cephas" "From the Aramaic kay fa Rock, a surname equivalent to Peter, cf John1:42, Matt.16:17-18."
The New Oxford Annotated Bible page 149 says concerning John 1:42, "In Aramaic Cephas (Grk Petros) means rock, cf Matt.16:18.
"The gospel does not over look however, the eminence of Peter in early tradition. He receives from Jesus , at the same time of his calling the special name *"Rock"* at a critical moment in Jesus' ministry. Peter leads the other disciples in loyalty and confession of fait and Peter will assure his prominent role." (Interpreters One Volume Commentary pp 711)
"Peter, personal name meaning, Rock. Cephas most frequently used by Paul. *Cephas and Peter both mean Rock."* (Hohman Bible Dictionary, pp 1098)
Peter ("stone; rock"), a fisherman called to be an apostle of Christ. He became one of the leaders of the early church (Matt. 4:18-20; 16:15-19; Acts 2). *Christ changed this man's name from Simon to a name meaning* "rock" (Cephas in Aramaic, Peter in Greek).
James I. Packer, Merrill C. Tenney and William White, Jr., editors, Nelson's illustrated manners and customs of the Bible [computer file], electronic ed., Logos Library System, (Nashville: Thomas Nelson) 1997, c1995.
"Cephas [se fes] (Gr. Kephas, from Aram. Kepa "Rock")." The Errdmans Bible Dictionary pp 199.
^THE FACT IS THAT PETER WAS ALREADY KNOWN AS* *"ROCK"* LONG BEFORE MATT. 16.
I could give volumes more that agree including A.T. Robertson, DA Carson and a host of others. *Not one of them think Peter or Cephas means* " a piece of a rock" or pebble
NASB on John 1:42 says, "Cephas means rock" .
NAB on Mt. 16: says, " You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, the Aramaic word kepa meaning rock and transliterated in the Greek as Kephas is the name by which Peter is called in the Pauline letters. It is translated as Petros (Peter) in John 1:42. The presumed original Aramaic of Jesus statement would have been in English, " You are Rock (Kepa) and up this (Kepa) I will build my church. The Greek text probably means the same thing, for the difference in gender between the masculine noun petros, the disciples new name and the feminine noun Petra (rock) may be due simply to the unsuitability of using a feminine noun as the proper name of a male." page 35 New American Bible.
pg 1946 “Nothing give evidence of Peter’s Rock-like Character as does this Epistle (1Peter). King James Study Bible, Thomas Nelson Publishers
John 1:42 Life Application Study Bible NIV, Tyndale House Publishing and Zondervan Publishing House Copyright. Pg 1873 “Jesus saw not only who Simon was, but who he would become. That is why he gave him a new name. Cehpas in Aramaic Peter in Greek, (means Rock).
The NASB foot notes John 1:42 the word "Cephas" and says, Cephas means Rock.
The New Revised Standard Version:
John 1:42 The foot note at the word "Peter" reads From the word, "rock" ( "Cephas") and the Greek word, "Petra" (Peter) .
The reason being that in Matt. 16: Petra and Petros MEAN THE SAME THING. IF CHRIST WANTED TO SAY PETER WAS A LITTLE STONE HE WOULD HAVE USED THE WORD "LITHO" NOT PETROS.
If Christ wanted to call Peter a "stone" he would have used the word "LITHO" WHICH MEANS STONE NOT PETROS, WHICH IS A ROCK.
The New Century Bible on John 1:42
(NCV) Footnote at the word "Cephas" says, "Peter, the Greek name Peter like the Aramaic Cephas means "rock"
The Contemporary English Version footnote on John 1:42 "Peter: Aramaic name Cephas and the Greek name Peter means "rock" .
New Living Translation foot note on John 1:42 says, "The names Cephas and Peter mean rock" .
It's another protestant heretical and schismatic group.
It doesn't look heretical to me.
Have you ever read the Bible?
I would recommend 1Cor 3:1-9.
LOL: There were so many schisms before the Reformation.
@@joshuakarr-BibleMan Protestantism is, by definition, heretical. And yes I have,
Have you read Matthew 16:13-20?
@@oliveri9407 Essentially all Christian sects can potentially be pointed to as being heretical by referring to individual passages. Referring to your fellow man, especially ones you have so much in common with, as heretical is not going to lead you anywhere good
@Oliver I
As a matter of fact, I have read that passage countless times.
Can you tell me how a denomination that embraces the entirety of Scripture as God-breathed instruction, professes the entire Gospel necessary for salvation, and strives to obey the commands if Jesus in order to glorify God, is heretical?
Don't hang your entire faith on one minor point of contention.
The Greek uses different words for "rock" in this passage.
The group were near Caesarea Philippi, where myriad pagan shrines, including a cave entrance called the Gates of Hell, resided in a small valley under a rock.
At no point does Jesus assign Peter authority over the entire church, or even over the other disciples.
It is good to have structure and it is good to have a final authority to decide a denomination's position on an arguable point in Scripture, but you take it too far.
In my faith Genesis 1 is an account of spirits being created for this earth. The "days" are days in Heaven, as the sun is not created until the 4th day. God rests for one of HIs days after Genesis 1, but never rests after Genesis 2. So Genesis 2 is a continuation of creation in which it tells of spirits being given a physical body by two things coming together, the breath of life spirit created in Genesis 1, and the dust of the ground. Thus we do not have an account of the creation of our physical earth and the universe it is in. And the evidence that it is very old must be correct.
Heber : nice try !
You know what they call expanding time in Genesis to allow for an old earth mindset?
God of the Gaps.
You know the pagan deity whose worship led to the death of over 20,000 Israelites on the way to the Promised Land?
Baal Peor.
Do you know what Baal Peor translates to in English?
God of the opening/hole/entrance/gap.