Is Math the Language of the Universe?

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  • There is a very common debate over the nature of math. Is it something that exists as part of the universe that we slowly "discover" or is it something we make up to try and explain our crazy world? After a lot of careful thought, this video is my answer.
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  • @jpettys
    @jpettys Před 7 lety +675

    As I was listening to this video at 7:55 my wife walks through the kitchen and hears, "No number will ever answer those deep philosophical questions." "Forty-two," she says on her way by without skipping a beat. Nick immediately answers, as if he heard her, "Not even 42." Makes my day. :)

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před 7 lety +156

      HAHAHA Excellent!

    • @I_AM-MICHAEL
      @I_AM-MICHAEL Před 6 lety +15

      OK, what is the significance of 42? I say this all the time too, but I have no idea where it comes from.

    • @I_AM-MICHAEL
      @I_AM-MICHAEL Před 6 lety +11

      Never mind I researched it and got as far as WIKI, before my mind totally blew.

    • @captcorajus
      @captcorajus Před 6 lety +33

      Its a referance to Hitchhicker's guide to the galaxy

    • @zarion1181
      @zarion1181 Před 5 lety +34

      Wow, you have an awesome wife. Going to the kitchen AND knowing the answer to life, the universe and the rest. That is impressive.

  • @nature1upclose
    @nature1upclose Před 6 lety +635

    Your videos are a gift to society-

    • @feynstein1004
      @feynstein1004 Před 6 lety +10

      Now this is one gift people should resend instead of keeping for themselves :)

    • @funkyboy_22
      @funkyboy_22 Před 5 lety +4

      Amen to that! I'm struggling with a math subject related to this and this helped me understand this darn topic better.

    • @naturemc2
      @naturemc2 Před 5 lety +2

      Check this one universeandhuman.wordpress.com/2018/11/08/is-language-created-by-human-and-understand-by-just-human-only/

    • @nanigopalsaha2408
      @nanigopalsaha2408 Před 4 lety +2

      Or are they?

    • @hichaelhighers
      @hichaelhighers Před 3 lety +4

      @@nanigopalsaha2408 They are.

  • @AkshayPatil-qf5eh
    @AkshayPatil-qf5eh Před 7 lety +376

    this also raises the question, "is math invented or discovered?"

    • @Krish-jm6ve
      @Krish-jm6ve Před 7 lety +37

      In my view, its more close to invented (convenience). in the past centuries all scientists tend to justify aspects of universe through maths. Its a little crazy to understand simple physics without using Maths

    • @krigb11
      @krigb11 Před 7 lety +44

      Akshay Patil One question you can pose for this idea is if humanity was wipped out and all knowledge was lost and millions of years later a new intellectual species evolved the two societies would differ in terms of language, faith and culture. Math however would likely remain at its core the same giving evidence to point to that it is discovered. The letters and symbols between the post wipe and pre wipe would most certainly differ however so it would need to be translated but it may be similar to a codex for English in which every letter is replaced by the one two down, but if a codex was found or created than one would likely easily be able to transition between the two. Think Fahrenheit and Celsius, they both messure the same thing - temperature - but you need a simple equation to transition between the two.

    • @cjg8763
      @cjg8763 Před 7 lety +91

      Here's the way I see it. Math seems to me to be an inherent property of the universe. It's underlying mechanics were discovered, but the actual language we use to communicate those underlying mechanics had to be invented.

    • @krigb11
      @krigb11 Před 7 lety +1

      I cuncur CJ G

    • @AkshayPatil-qf5eh
      @AkshayPatil-qf5eh Před 7 lety +1

      agreed

  • @upandatom
    @upandatom Před 7 lety +182

    Great upload! I've heard that phrase so many times and it's never really been explained. I love how you went into so much detail about defining everything. Awesome!

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před 7 lety +42

      Thanks! I spent a lot of time preparing for this one. It's one of those videos that's taken me months to write.

    • @manishaashwinayyappan5253
      @manishaashwinayyappan5253 Před 3 lety +3

      @@ScienceAsylum(even as a math and physics lover I can't take it in a easy way,but it's the truth but still u can't tell math is not a universal language just for density or even numbers) I agree that our math can't quite explain everything in a Meaningful way now.if somebody can change it mean like how Newton did by inventing calculus,math can discribe any phenomenon with clear and in meaningful way.THEN AFTER THAT IT WILL BECOME THE LANGUAGE THAT WE USE TO UNIVERSE.

    • @josephcoon5809
      @josephcoon5809 Před 2 lety +2

      Language is the application of meaning to a pattern.
      Color is the language the brain uses to understand wavelengths of light. Odor and flavor are the languages the brain uses to understand chemical reactions in the nose and tongue. Texture, sensation, and sound are the languages that the brain uses to understand pressure differentials.
      This is why things like synesthesia, illusions, hallucinations, dreams, and ghost limb syndrome exists. This is why plugging an audio cord into a video port creates crazy colors and shapes and why plugging a video cord into an audio port creates screeching sounds.
      This is why an idea in your mind has to be translated into words in the Broca’s Area and then translated into the patterns of muscle activations in your lips, mouth, throat, and diaphragm to produce the proper pattern of sounds which creates a sympathetic vibration in another’s ears which is sent to the Wernicke’s area to be translated back into words and then translated into an idea.
      ANY one of those processes can corrupt the intended idea being transmitted and defeat communications.
      Every layer of neurons creates patterns for each successive layer to constantly condense information so that all the data received from the each retina can be understood in each respective hemisphere of the brain which is then processed using the corpus callosum to achieve depth perception through comparison of information rather than rejection of a complete data set to avoid cognitive dissonance.
      Whenever two sets of data do not coincide at one level of dimensionality, it creates dissonance, by increasing the number of dimensions used to analyze, you are able to achieve a better understanding. This is true in depth perception, politics, relationships, and even M-Theory in String Theory.
      Math describes ALL of those languages.

    • @josephcoon5809
      @josephcoon5809 Před 2 lety

      @@ScienceAsylum Just the fact that we employ digital communications to transmit information in any form of language through another always ends up applying meaning to a pattern of physical phenomena: light pulses, radio wave features, optical pits, magnetized particles, quantum states, and even tree rings.
      Everything comes down to “exists” or “does not exist” and the pattern of “existence” and “non-existence” gives rise to the ability to apply meaning to it all.

    • @josephcoon5809
      @josephcoon5809 Před 2 lety

      Applying meaning to a pattern is called “encoding.”
      The process of extracting meaning from a pattern, using the same language, is called “decoding.”

  • @culwin
    @culwin Před 6 lety +210

    Wow, this guy sure hates average density.

  • @michelelandolfi8860
    @michelelandolfi8860 Před 4 lety +27

    You: "No number will ever answer those deep philosophical questions"
    Me: "well except 42"
    You, zoomig in: " *NOT EVEN 42* "

  • @dmalane
    @dmalane Před 2 lety +24

    Loved the video. Math might be our human language’s attempt to describe the universe, But the universe does not speak the language of math, the universe could probably care less about our math!

  • @philrudski9084
    @philrudski9084 Před 6 lety +36

    "Not even 42". I laughed out loud. Nice one.

  • @ahgflyguy
    @ahgflyguy Před 4 lety +33

    Math is a language we made up. A small portion of the mathematical language has been created and expanded precicely because it described some bits of the universe.
    Physics is our attempt to describe the universe at its fundamental levels, and physics used to be done in a spoken language, such Aristotelian logic. But that didn't get us anywhere. So people started using math, and the results were so overwhelmingly good that we just kept on using math, and making up new math when needed.

    • @anthonysandoval9275
      @anthonysandoval9275 Před 2 lety +1

      I don’t think we can take credit for math, we may have stumbled onto it when looking at the cosmos, everything is created mathematically down to its very atomic structure. Math is something the universe taught us.

    • @user-fr8ri4ie9s
      @user-fr8ri4ie9s Před 2 lety

      Yeah maths is just a tool to rely on the laws that were observed recently, but when scientists found out about black matter, or black holes not even maths or science could explain these phenomenons

    • @anthonysandoval9275
      @anthonysandoval9275 Před 2 lety

      @@user-fr8ri4ie9s and the very small, quantum mechanics, other dimensions, the stuff we can not see or measure.
      Butt it is still the math that tells us something is missing…. If you go back and look at the actual reason why we are looking for that.

    • @anthonysandoval9275
      @anthonysandoval9275 Před 2 lety

      @@user-fr8ri4ie9s the “question” is what science is all about, if we run out of questions, than we run out of science. We must have something to investigate, measure, observe. Numbers, need to be accompanied by letters, they explain the measurement, or formulas or what the numbers represent.

    • @user-fr8ri4ie9s
      @user-fr8ri4ie9s Před 2 lety

      @@anthonysandoval9275 Science is not for the thrill of it, its created to satisfy the curiousity of us humans. If science was all about the questions then science wouldnt be used in the first place.

  • @lukewright5544
    @lukewright5544 Před 7 lety +71

    I wish I had a teacher like you in school - I would have become a Scientist for sure! :)

    • @feynstein1004
      @feynstein1004 Před 6 lety +10

      You can still be one. It's never too late. Don't give up. :)

    • @gayatri555
      @gayatri555 Před 4 lety +1

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    • @feynstein1004
      @feynstein1004 Před 4 lety +2

      @Gayatri Chitale Eh did you have a stroke or something? 😂

    • @xhawkenx633
      @xhawkenx633 Před 4 lety

      why not becoming one now?

    • @majorrgeek
      @majorrgeek Před 3 lety

      @@gayatri555 - correct number is wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww11r

  • @joelcraig9803
    @joelcraig9803 Před 7 lety +45

    Yaaa... i was talking to the Universe the other day and It only speaks Esperanto.

  • @Pete-Logos
    @Pete-Logos Před 6 lety +42

    @5:11 It totally has a translation in Propositional Logic and in Predicate Logic which are both branches of Mathematics. Check it.
    I⇔(K⇔(B≤C)) = It’s okay to be a little crazy = Eίναι εντάξει να είσαι λίγο τρελός.
    (Math) (English) (Greek, just to go the extra mile)
    (I didn't use Google for any of this, didn't need to; I'm fluent in Greek, and I'm a Math/Logic Undergrad)
    Notation Legend (Math/Logic)
    ----------------------------------------------------
    I = It’s
    K = okay
    B = to be
    C = crazy
    ⇔ equivalent, (logically equivalent)
    ⊆ a subset, ⊆C is a set contained in C
    ≤ less than or equal to
    ∃ = Existential quantifier, it reads: "there exists..."
    : such that
    It means the same thing as this: I=(K=(B≤C)) (Each term is just represented with a variable.)
    You might also see Logician write this in Set Theory: I⇔(K⇔(B⊆C)
    or in Predicate Logic = ∃K: K(B,C)
    This states that: "There exists K, such that K describes the relationship between B, C."
    or to be more specific: "There exists "Okay" such that "Okay" describes the relationship "Being" is having with "Crazy."
    Notation Greek to English
    ----------------------------------------
    Eίναι εντάξει να είσαι λίγο τρελός =
    It’s okay to be a-little crazy
    Eίναι = It’s
    εντάξει = okay
    να = to
    είσαι = be
    λίγο = little *(see asterik at bottom of page for details)
    τρελός = crazy
    Notation: Math to English to Greek
    -----------------------------------------------------
    I = It’s = Eίναι
    K = okay = εντάξει
    B = to be = να είσαι
    C = crazy = τρελός
    ⇔ equivalent, (logically equivalent)
    ⊆ a subset, ⊆C is a set contained in C
    ≤ less than or equal to
    ∃ = Existential quantifier, it reads: "there exists..."
    : such that
    I⇔(K⇔(B≤C)) = Eίναι εντάξει να είσαι λίγο τρελός.
    *(There is no “a” because “little” itself does not have singularity or plurality in Greek unless more than one entity is slightly crazy. Here, only one thing is little: the size, or measurement of “crazy.“)
    The literal, "word-for-word," translation from Greek→English would be: “It’s okay to be little crazy.” Which is exactly what you hear from many people with European accents, like some of my Uncles lol.
    I may have abused the "it's okay to be a little crazy" rule, and went to far, lol. (If anyone understands it then totally worth it!)

    • @Anghelnicolae
      @Anghelnicolae Před 6 lety +2

      Nick, answer the man. Is he right?

    • @amineaboutalib
      @amineaboutalib Před 6 lety +1

      Logic Λόγος Totally worth it!

    • @datinsky69
      @datinsky69 Před 5 lety

      Logic is not math.

    • @woowooNeedsFaith
      @woowooNeedsFaith Před 5 lety +1

      @Logic Λόγος
      You ARE a little crazy... but it's okay.

    • @raymondhuot1684
      @raymondhuot1684 Před 5 lety

      With sufficient knowledge, everything can be explained ..... even God!

  • @gabrielbraz9669
    @gabrielbraz9669 Před 4 lety +41

    5:42 "if math really is the language of the universe, then everything we calculate should have meaning"
    Totally desagress with this. English is the language of the Harry Potter books, but not every sentence in english has a meaning in the books, and every meaning of the books can be written in english. So not everything in math should have a meaning in the universe, but all in the universe should be able to be written using math. Gravity, speed of light, all celestial bodies, everything is described using math, and what isn't is probably because we still didn't figured how to do it. So in my opinion math is the language of the universe.
    About the deep philosophical questions, they aren't about the universe, they are about us, and the universe can exist without us in it, so these questions shouldn't be used to disprove math as the language of the universe.

    • @viveklakshman2897
      @viveklakshman2897 Před 4 lety +2

      I agree with you too. Have you ever had a chance to look at The E8 Lattice theory of the universe by Garret Lisi? It looks so amazing and promising.

    • @shcxatter2
      @shcxatter2 Před 3 lety +8

      I kinda agree with you, but then again if you think about it, is there any mathematical statement that cannot be translated to a regular language? The answer is no, it's just that it would be really inefficient for some math statements. It follows then, that every language is the language of the universe. Which kind of makes sense, I mean, that's why languages evolved right, to be able to communicate ideas.

    • @hnnagarathna7286
      @hnnagarathna7286 Před 3 lety +1

      I think u hate math

    • @nicolasaraya7605
      @nicolasaraya7605 Před 2 lety

      A strong point there!

    • @Smitology
      @Smitology Před 2 lety +1

      @@hnnagarathna7286 Did you read anything he said

  • @Skraboing649
    @Skraboing649 Před 6 lety +6

    These videos are brilliant! I can't understand why there are only 40K subscribers! You deserve to have at least 20 times that amount! Keep up the good work Nick, this channel deserves to be huge!

  • @halfhouse5760
    @halfhouse5760 Před 5 lety +61

    Whoever coined that phrase that "math is the language of the universe" probably meant it in the sense that math has a universal quality that other sentient beings would understand. Because of that, mathematical concepts as well as formulas could serve as a foundation for communication.
    One plus one equals two is a universal fact (as far as we know), so building on that, it should be possible to trade with aliens. That example is simplistic but it illustrates the point I'm making.
    I enjoy your videos, by the way. They're very informative.

    • @markstafford1410
      @markstafford1410 Před 5 lety +2

      The universe as we know it (except the dream state) is governed by a mathematical law, etc.

    • @Predated2
      @Predated2 Před 5 lety +3

      True, but we also use language to describe things as accurately as possible. We use math to describe the universe. So technically, math is a language, but more a sublanguage.

    • @kosatochca
      @kosatochca Před 5 lety +4

      Not wanna be mean but you sooo underestimate the different fields of maths that humans have created (yes, created). Because even this simplistic example of 1+1=2 is not inherent but one of the consequenses of the rules that we made for this paticular arithmetics (for example Peano axioms). And we could easily change these rules to create completely new arithmetics. To put it simply, our pure maths could be much much more crazy than the universe, so there are many possible kinds of this craziness

    • @Eta_Carinae__
      @Eta_Carinae__ Před 4 lety

      ...
      Math meme:
      Which ring are you talking in?

    • @w1darr
      @w1darr Před 4 lety

      @@Predated2 You mix up a language we invented with the mathematical entities we try to descibe with the language we invented.
      The entities exist, no matter wether our universe exists or not. They are universal, and do not require our universe to exist.
      Math is a landscape, made up of mathematical structures.
      Dealing with math is exploring these landscapes.
      In order to describe these landscapes to others, of course you need a language.
      This languages is not the landscapes though.
      I understand, that physicists see math only as a tool - I took lectures in physics as well. What you learn in an average physics studium is not math at all, its algorithms molten into mathematic language at best.
      Don't mix up these algorithms with math.

  • @1TakoyakiStore
    @1TakoyakiStore Před 6 lety +2

    Probably my favorite video! It's actually helped me approach math in a different way! Keep it up even though this video is from 2016! Also I love rule #7... xD

  • @Hunar1997
    @Hunar1997 Před 5 lety +28

    0:13 first time that i actually read all of them
    2. No pants is best pants 😂😂

  • @shortvids7137
    @shortvids7137 Před 3 lety +3

    I learnt more about science on your channel than I've ever learnt in past 10 years in school

  • @MsKingwa
    @MsKingwa Před 3 lety +2

    You are lovely. You make learning fun. I'm healing my 'math trauma' of the past by teaching myself math. This was great

  • @jlpsinde
    @jlpsinde Před 5 lety +1

    Really good, you're continuously surprising me!

  • @Alejoblocks
    @Alejoblocks Před 6 lety +5

    Amazing channel, you deserve more subs!

  • @Qrexx1
    @Qrexx1 Před 2 lety +3

    "It's OK to be a little crazy" has no exact translation in maths...yet. But just as every language maths evolves too. If we found out a new way to express psychological stuff in maths we could express that too.
    I like your way of thinking and it formed mine in some ways since I follow your channel. Your presentation style is top quality too. Keep up the good work Nick!

  • @grideffect1193
    @grideffect1193 Před 6 lety

    Thank you, for the work you put in to your videos. I like been a little crazy.

  • @hudson11235
    @hudson11235 Před 2 lety +2

    Great video. I'm enjoying the channel it a lot.

  • @jurggjon
    @jurggjon Před 4 lety +6

    "Math would be just a small part of the best translation of the language of the universe." This expression only makes me see things in a totally different perspective. Thanks.

  • @BartAnderson_writer
    @BartAnderson_writer Před 4 lety +5

    (Preface: I love the videos, I'm going through them one-by-one. Usually I'm uniquely unqualified to comment, but this video is perhaps an exception.)
    To consider whether math is a lanugage, it's *really* helpful to go to the fields that study lanugage. There are many characteristics of human language, which you're not going to get by relying on dictionary definitions. One loses the interesting characteristics of both math and language by trying to equate them.
    I would consider math to be a special subset of language, used in a specific domain. It's unusual because it has its own strict grammar, very different from human languages. The meanings of mathematical statements are of a different kind. It would be related to programming languages and the rules of logic.
    Math doesn't deal with emotional states, nor could any community function using only math as a language. "I love you." "Let's go to the seashore." "I think there's something funny about that guy." How would you say these in Math-Speak? Human language has to deal with all the crazy states of mind, actions, and imaginings of a featherless biped.
    I'm guessing that math originated in the jargon used by ancient surveyers and accountants. Originally it described the crafts and processes of specialists: figuring out areas, counting jugs of olive oil. Then it gradually became general and abstract, e.g. with the Greeks.

  • @arnoldcaines9012
    @arnoldcaines9012 Před 6 lety +2

    Math can definitely describe our physical situation but our spiritual/ philosophical situation is another matter. I think you hit on this dichotomy brilliantly.

  • @ahappyimago
    @ahappyimago Před 6 lety +2

    Mark my words your channel will be HUGE if you keep this up!!!

  • @getlaidordietrying
    @getlaidordietrying Před 6 lety +12

    I have a translation for "it's ok to be a little crazy" to math. It's simple:
    1+2+3+4+5+...(infinity symbol here) = -1/12

    • @ncedwards1234
      @ncedwards1234 Před 4 lety +2

      That's not actually true though, the "proofs" of it are invalid. I'm not going to explain that here, but there are videos that do that on youtube.

    • @SuperYtc1
      @SuperYtc1 Před 4 lety

      That's been proven to be wrong.

    • @xhawkenx633
      @xhawkenx633 Před 4 lety +2

      it is not more crazy than 1+2=3. Both statements require certain axioms in order to be true and known, otherwise they are just random signs without meaning. The reasion why 1+2=3 seems a lot less crazy is that you are a lot more familiar with simple arithemitc than with analytical continuation

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před 3 lety +1

      Crazies, the OP is just making a joke. Try not to take everything so seriously 😉.
      For anyone who can't let it go, watch this video from Numberphile from 2014: czcams.com/video/w-I6XTVZXww/video.html
      ...then this much deeper dive from 3blue1brown in 2016: czcams.com/video/sD0NjbwqlYw/video.html
      *TL;DR The sum might not be rigorously defined where the sum equals -1/12, but there's nothing rigorously disproving it either. The result is still compelling.*

  • @birdman7135
    @birdman7135 Před 4 lety +5

    This was possibly your best video! Math definitely IS the language of the universe. It's the only language that remains as a constant on our planet. (2 + 2 = 4) is the same in English as it is in French, Swedish or German. Logic states that if math remains a constant throughout all of humanity, then it most likely would be the same on another planet with intelligent life. If math is able to accurately predict cosmic events in our universe with pinpoint precision,... then yes, "Math" is clearly the language of the universe.

  • @DonGatoGuzman
    @DonGatoGuzman Před 6 lety +1

    Hello Crazy, great channel. I am a Sociology Major with a lot of studies and practical knowledge in communications, language, philosophy statistics and computer science. I STRONGLY recommend you to inmerse into the first and second Witgenstein. It's a good seed for a mind like yours.

  • @fionaalexis8543
    @fionaalexis8543 Před 3 lety +1

    great explanation and also the way it is presented in the video !!!!

  • @ronfurzeland6114
    @ronfurzeland6114 Před 6 lety +7

    Conclusion - mathematics is A universal language but is not THE only language one needs to describe all things in the universe - you see I need to use a verbal language like English to better describe the conclusion! Example: I could use maths to talk to an alien from another planet about mathematical physics but not to express my feelings

  • @nicyounghans
    @nicyounghans Před 5 lety +3

    Nick, Nic here. You do a nice job brother.

  • @manueldelrio7147
    @manueldelrio7147 Před 6 lety +1

    Nice video. I have been just returning in the last pair of years or so to Math and Physics (now out of pure interest and not school pressure!) and, in my inmense ignorance and subjectivity, find myself very attracted to the idea of mathematical Platonism.

  • @brennbrizuela3106
    @brennbrizuela3106 Před 4 lety

    Awesome videos, the ones you make. Made me be clearer on many concepts, even though its impossible to any human mind to fill and the ignorance gaps in between the vast complexity that lies in any aspect of nature, thus reality.

  • @nicholasivanderstoop4282
    @nicholasivanderstoop4282 Před 6 lety +5

    Should be the introductory video to any math class 01 . Math as tool and language .

    • @DaveJ6515
      @DaveJ6515 Před 4 lety

      That's exactly my introduction to mathematics: first High School lesson. They look at me as an alien.

  • @coreyms
    @coreyms Před 7 lety +36

    Great video. Have you seen the movie "Arrival" yet? It touches on some of this. You'd probably enjoy it.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před 7 lety +12

      I haven't yet, but I will.

    • @askformoreinfowhichyouwont7510
      @askformoreinfowhichyouwont7510 Před 6 lety +3

      The Science Asylum Watch it!!

    • @daffidavit
      @daffidavit Před 6 lety +4

      Just another time Paradox movie, but more confusing because it had to attract the unfamiliar people who never saw a time paradox movie before. So, therefore, the movie adds unnecessary details to make the move even more confusing than necessary. I've been a time paradox nurd since Star Trek TOS. But after watching this movie, I fell asleep. Oh well.

    • @lestranje
      @lestranje Před 6 lety +1

      imho even english is not the language of the universe.
      the consensus make it so.
      which mean it need agreement of each participant or community to use n engage it. nobody can say what is the language of the universe. only god know.

    • @gammashift
      @gammashift Před 6 lety +2

      I love your python vids Corey! (:

  • @Dom-fr1hw
    @Dom-fr1hw Před 2 lety +1

    Your clock defines how great your mind is. Salute!
    - College student from the Philippines.

  • @dimtgco1428
    @dimtgco1428 Před 5 lety +2

    This was excellent! Made me think out of the box....

  • @davelong1139
    @davelong1139 Před 7 lety +20

    I prefer comments at end of your videos. I'd only do comment video on its own if it's a question about you / your background / how you make videos etc...

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před 7 lety +4

      Good to know. Thanks.

    • @feynstein1004
      @feynstein1004 Před 6 lety

      Agreed. It gives a feeling of two-way communication, which might seem trivial but is actually game-changing.

  • @manikdas1429
    @manikdas1429 Před 6 lety +4

    U r crazy and awesome and please don't stop making this types of videos

  • @TheBorges123
    @TheBorges123 Před 6 lety +2

    Your videos are a joy. Thanks!

  • @amazingworldadventures325

    That was a really lucid analysis of math as a language. That's why I keep geeking out on your videos.

  • @kaiserlicherkaiser468
    @kaiserlicherkaiser468 Před 5 lety +3

    You're really intelligent don't stop making videos

  • @fandomguy8025
    @fandomguy8025 Před 5 lety +4

    I love how it's "Question everything?" even questioning that, XD

  • @wailinburnin
    @wailinburnin Před 11 měsíci +1

    This is more important than we can imagine for a number of reasons. It’s also the reason (conjecture) why we can’t unify a continuum and a quantum reality using the form of math we call math.

  • @santhoshwagle9857
    @santhoshwagle9857 Před 5 lety +1

    Amazing as always.... Totally agree with you...

  • @deanbutler3215
    @deanbutler3215 Před 7 lety +7

    Not even 42? :O
    You've shattered my world view. lol

  • @RickClark58
    @RickClark58 Před 7 lety +5

    Great vid, very well explained. My big problem with the idea of math and science being intrinsic to the universe and something we discover is the simple fact that all the units of measurements measurements we use, the fundamental properties of both math and science are arbitrary, made up values. They are useful yes, and help us describe the universe so that we can understand it, but it is something we have made up and do not exist as an objective reality. The fact that we are constantly changing these units of measurements is a testament to the fact that they are something we have created. Math and science are both a means to manipulate these measurements in order for use to assign meaning to the universe. Does a photon calculate its trajectory using Einstein's equations through curved space before moving from point A to B? Of course not; it is simply following a path of least resistance through space. The universe simply happens around us and it does so outside of the realm of both math and science.
    Yet math and science have been quite useful in describing and predicting, what has and will happen in the universe, and this is what puzzles people. It isn't much of a puzzle though; math and science have been designed to do just that, i.e., describe the universe. You design a glove to fit a hand and it may take a few tries before you get all the cloth to go in the right direction to fit all the fingers, but after trial and error, some experimentation and thinking about it, eventually you get a pattern that works. It may work for quite a while, but then you come across a hand that just won't fit in the glove. In this case, the universal glove doesn't turn out to be all that universal and you start the process all over again.
    This is exactly what we do in math and science. We change the rules when we need to, when we come across an observation that doesn't fit with our existing description of the universe. We can do that, because we have created the system in the first place. We have created the units of measurements and the rules that govern those measurements, so we can change them as we need. This is what makes math and science so powerful. We are not locked into a rigid system defined by some impersonal universe that doesn't care about whether we understand or not. We have created the rules of the game, and we can change the rules as we need. We need a new unit of measurement? We simply make it, and then create the rules that govern those measurements and tweak those rules until it makes the observations we have. Do we need a new form of math to describe something? We simply create it, just as we did with Calculus and imaginary numbers.
    Math and science do describe the world around us, not perfectly, but to a high degree of precision, where precision is defined as the standard we have set for ourselves, based on the units of measurements that we have created to facilitate that description of the universe. It does so, not because math and science are inherent properties of the universe, but because we have created both math and science to describe the universe in terms that we can understand. That is why math and science are always changing, always evolving and will continue to do so. math and science are both very similar to languages; they are all tools we have created to understand what is going on around us.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před 7 lety +4

      I agree with this statement 100%: "Does a photon calculate its trajectory using Einstein's equations through curved space before moving from point A to B? Of course not."
      As far as the units of measure go though, most theoretical work is done outside of any unit choices. Equations tend to be re-written so they would work with any units you wanted to apply. Some scientists think that these equations describe real relationships between real measurements that actually exist in the universe. I'm not so convinced.

    • @KnowBuddiesLP
      @KnowBuddiesLP Před 7 lety +3

      Rick clark is a crazy too!!!!!! And congrats on making the response in the newest video just uploaded! :) I knew Rick before he was famous!

  • @torbenlindbjergmllernielse7015

    Thank's for your videos and all those questions. I like most of your questions very much and I love your humor and the unpretentious way you convey these exciting topics.
    Naturally, I certainly do not agree with all of your conclusions. But the topics and questions are good food for the brain. With me, at least they set off a lot of reflection and speculation 😀

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem

      *"Naturally, I certainly do not agree with all of your conclusions."*
      Which is totally fine. My conclusions are a matter of opinion.

  • @oceanman6623
    @oceanman6623 Před 7 lety +1

    great video Nick !

  • @caricue
    @caricue Před 4 lety +4

    That's an interesting take on the "Language of the Universe" statement. I always took it to mean that the universe was mathematical in nature, so we were just working out what was already there, trying to understand it, not literally a "language". For me, I don't see math as being intrinsic to the universe, so it can't be discovered. Math is a human invention the seems to be endlessly useful, but comes from us and is overlaid on to the universe. In terms of being an actual "Language of the Universe", of course not. The universe is not sentient (unless you mean us), so it doesn't communicate in any way, so it can't have a "language".

  • @Dexter-A
    @Dexter-A Před 6 lety +16

    Math was invented by humans as way of interpreting the properties and inner workings of the universe :D

  • @JoshKaufmanstuff
    @JoshKaufmanstuff Před 6 lety +1

    Clicked the video by accident and didn't expect it to be interesting . . . Now here I am writing a comment . .. Thanks Nick!

  • @bhanusingh864
    @bhanusingh864 Před 6 lety +1

    Man, you can make the comment response videos interesting by explaining random topics you find in them. Kind of like a short answer (or maybe question). I am sure that it can be pulled of with your charisma.

  • @gurkdoinwork
    @gurkdoinwork Před 5 lety +6

    its okay to be a little crazy = shrodinger's equation haha

  • @xyz.ijk.
    @xyz.ijk. Před 5 lety +3

    Existence is the only language of the universe. It's a little complicated unless you look at it taxonometrically. If you do then it's quite simple. But the key word in your quest is the word "of." Mathematics is our language which partially describes the universe, and as we learn more about the universe, the more math we use to describe the physics that we use to describe the universe. When you use the word "of" you are ascribing a directionality or quality of emanation. I don't think anyone sees the number "three" floating out in space (although I suppose that if you could see the Horsehead nebula or Orion's Belt, you could see the shape of the number three someplace) with the intention of it defining the set of three things or being part of its own superset, or that if we multiply it (the mere shape) by 2 we will somehow get 6.
    I love your work but I think you need to get further into the directionality of your definitions.
    Just another loudmouth opinion from the cheap seats.
    Keep up your great work!

  • @MrPooPooJohn
    @MrPooPooJohn Před 3 lety +1

    So, so good. Glad I finally came across this one.

  • @andycopeland7051
    @andycopeland7051 Před 3 lety +1

    This is a great discussion. Thanks.

  • @wyndsurfu
    @wyndsurfu Před 6 lety +4

    "Math is the Language that we use to give detailed explanations of our understanding of the human mind's perceptions of the Universe" ... might be closer.

  • @peanutswithoutthet2249
    @peanutswithoutthet2249 Před 3 lety +4

    Im here because my professor gave an assignme t to make a 500 word essay if Math is a language of the universe lol

  • @fanjapanischermusik
    @fanjapanischermusik Před 6 lety +2

    Ich schließe mich meinem Vorredner an, sehr schönes Video. Genauso wie du finde ich auch dass Mathematik nicht die Sprache des Universums ist, aber man kann mit ihrer Hilfe das Universum sehr gut beschreiben, wenn man noch die normale Sprache dazu nimmt. Schönes Video! Mach weiter so. Grüße aus Deutschland.

  • @rapidtreal4612
    @rapidtreal4612 Před 7 lety +1

    good vid like always keep up!

  • @OmarChida
    @OmarChida Před 4 lety +6

    I loved your explanation.
    I was watching a group of scientist talking and
    Neil DeGrasse Tyson (Astrophysict) said "Math is the language of the universe"
    Then Brian Green (Mathematacian and theoretical physicst) "Said how did you know its the language of the universe?"
    And then the debate starts
    I think this videos solved it all
    Thanks again 👍.

  • @stanmakrushin
    @stanmakrushin Před 5 lety +4

    04:46 - oh my god, why wasn’t It shown in my first grade, if math was taught as a language - that would make so much more sense

    • @AhnafAbdullah
      @AhnafAbdullah Před 4 lety +2

      Umm, it was taught to you as a language as a starting point for numbers, things like basic addition were taught like 3+6=9 (if Jack has 3 apples and he buys 6 more apples, he now has 9 apples) and 9-5=4 (If Jack sold 5 apples while he had 9, he now has 4 left)

    • @stanmakrushin
      @stanmakrushin Před 4 lety

      Ahnaf Abdullah well, in most Russian schools math is taught in a very “violent” way, everything is deeply detailed from the very beginning (which is a problem in any sphere) and no one has actually put it this way (that math is a means of communication to an outside world). Yeah, train A and train B, yeah - apples, and then all of a sudden you’re trying to find the length of a line inside a circle, that doesn’t go through the center and is perpendicular to another line which is in fact a hypotenuse of a triangle....... I mean, you also gotta have a very specific mindset to become a school math teacher

    • @straaths
      @straaths Před 4 lety +1

      Well in your first days you learned "mama" but most probably you even pronounced it wrong like "baba" or something like that. Your mum was most probably proud of this your failure.
      Then other words came, sentences, colors, more abstract things, math... And all of a sudden you are discussing if we are learning math too fast and with too many shortcuts.
      I agree that everyone should go according to his/her phase but that is quite imposible if one teacher teaches a class of 30 kids from which one half does not even care, one quarter sleeps and one guy is bored because the phase is too slow.
      It depends.

    • @DaveJ6515
      @DaveJ6515 Před 4 lety

      Because you were not in my class :-))))

  • @metan0ja
    @metan0ja Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks to you, i finally understand what mathematics really is. It really made me jump higher in grades, I'm happy to discover your channel :D

  • @kevindaniel8249
    @kevindaniel8249 Před 7 lety

    amazing video Nick!!!

  • @amit4rou
    @amit4rou Před 7 lety +5

    and btw Happy new year 2017!

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před 7 lety

      Happy new year to you too!

    • @tmd9412
      @tmd9412 Před 6 lety +2

      The Science Asylum Happy new year 2018!

  • @odranreb000
    @odranreb000 Před 4 lety +3

    There is a movie called “Pi, the order of chaos” that says this a lot. It is a good movie though. Of course a fiction movie. About your video I agree in everything.

    • @faustojavierdarosa1119
      @faustojavierdarosa1119 Před 4 lety

      Two opposite words such as "chaos" and "order" into something like "order of chaos" (or "chaos of order") make more meanings than one individual word.

  • @zitaoqiu
    @zitaoqiu Před 4 lety +1

    Great video! Math is just a tool we invented to describe the universe and make predictions. We always need to make adjustments or invent some new concepts when the old ones doesn't get the right results. So I really like your explanation that math is what we create to try to translate the language of the universe.
    Reading some of the comments reminds me of an arguments about probability a few years ago. In the comment section of a video about the Monty Hall problem, somebody disagree with the result and said something like "I don't think that's how the universe calculates probability"
    So I explained to him that probability is not something naturally exist in the universe, it's just a tool that we created to predict the possible outcomes, and that's why it can change when we get new information. Even with perfect calculation, lack of information can get you different probability than others with more information, and none of you are wrong here, you just have different prediction on the same problem.
    Then he replied something like "Oh, look at the nonsense this guy just said! He said probability doesn't exist in the universe!"
    Although he made it like I was drunk talking, I was telling the truth! I didn't know what to say.
    I felt like I was telling a kid that white light does not exist in natural. No single wave length of electromagnetic wave corresponds to the color white, it's what our brains made up, and that kid just yelled "This guy just said white does not exist, was he drunk?"

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před 4 lety

      Some ideas get so ingrained in our heads that it's hard to let them go.

  • @psychachu
    @psychachu Před 4 lety +1

    I actually adore your videos - fun, informative - though I can't leave without pointing out duck is a homograph. Loving this upload though x

  • @amit4rou
    @amit4rou Před 7 lety +3

    i thinl the comment response is good to keep in different video.. bcoz that will all make more views for the channel and bringing in new subs..

  • @akh345
    @akh345 Před 6 lety +56

    Math may not be *the* language of the Universe but it is definitely *a* language of the Universe.

    • @keentan2896
      @keentan2896 Před 5 lety +9

      Agree, math is one aspect of describing the universe.

    • @xhawkenx633
      @xhawkenx633 Před 4 lety +1

      @@keentan2896 every languages is describing the universe, as all languages are purely descriptive, and all we can describe is the universe we live in.

    • @w1darr
      @w1darr Před 4 lety +1

      @@keentan2896 Math is not a language, IMHO. What you refer to is I guess our formalisms we invented to describe maths. Math is far beyond that, just as if one claimed the 'lonely planet' travellers' guide for Cuba was Cuba - no, its not, its a way to describe Cuba.
      Math are abstract landscapes, not tied to any particular language - we require one language in order to describe it, because differently as for Cuba, one cannot travel to those landscapes to observe them without description.

  • @electedsphinx4086
    @electedsphinx4086 Před 2 lety

    The fact you mentioned piglatin, but said it in piglatin makes me reminisce back in the day when me and my buddy would always speak to each other in piglatin at school and stuff

  • @gopro2804
    @gopro2804 Před 2 lety

    You help me to think differently and I adore it. Thank you.

  • @pingpong607
    @pingpong607 Před 7 lety +4

    How does solar energy work? And how would a Dsyon sphere work/wont work (and built with the materials from Earth or the whole solar system)

    • @iamjimgroth
      @iamjimgroth Před 7 lety +1

      Your Master Look up Dyson swarms. They seem a lot more practical to be.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před 7 lety +1

      Dyson sphere... Dyson swarm... either way, that's a lot of material.

    • @iamjimgroth
      @iamjimgroth Před 7 lety

      ***** The advantage of a swarm is that it can be started already, and improved over millenia.

    • @martonlerant5672
      @martonlerant5672 Před 6 lety

      +Jim Groth
      Swarms also don't need active support or the discovery of unobtanium to be stable.

    • @feynstein1004
      @feynstein1004 Před 6 lety

      I think you might benefit from Issac Arthur's channel

  • @EEBS2012
    @EEBS2012 Před 5 lety +3

    I love it when you call us CRAZY 😂

  • @arjunneupane5267
    @arjunneupane5267 Před 4 lety +1

    Nice analysis.

  • @athrasher4160
    @athrasher4160 Před 7 lety +1

    Someone should keep a list of topics for another future video. The amount of times Nick says that makes it seem like he has a full schedule until next year... oh wait. Happy new year!

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před 7 lety

      Happy new year to you too! Also, a list is not a bad idea.

  • @thepicbloke7246
    @thepicbloke7246 Před 4 lety +3

    Maths is something we made up to describe how the universe works.

  • @theophilus749
    @theophilus749 Před 6 lety +7

    Is mathematics the language of the universe? Partly, I would say. It depends on what you want to ask or do or want to know. If, for example, you want to describe the motion of a planet round the sun, mathematics would be your thing. On the other hand, if you wanted to know why I have just risen from my chair and walked towards the fridge, it seems utterly impotent.

  • @player_3
    @player_3 Před 6 lety +1

    Man you deserve way more views and subs

  • @TheRABIDdude
    @TheRABIDdude Před 6 lety

    Found it pretty funny that the font you used for the equals sign at 2:32 actually made it quite hard to recognise :P

  • @chrisliffrig5603
    @chrisliffrig5603 Před 6 lety +8

    I’m pretty sure it’s 42.

  • @radiotv624
    @radiotv624 Před 6 lety +2

    I love this channel so so much thank you

  • @jmspeedcubing7324
    @jmspeedcubing7324 Před 7 lety +2

    I feel that making a dedicated comment response video would be more efficient since you could answer more at once

  • @danielhayes735
    @danielhayes735 Před 6 lety +1

    I laughed so hard when using the clown for an example of fear, thought of a few people. Great videos!

  • @arifhussain3753
    @arifhussain3753 Před 6 lety +1

    Your concepts are very good

  • @falazarte
    @falazarte Před 6 lety +1

    You are an amazing teacher!

  • @amarm8032
    @amarm8032 Před 6 lety +1

    Simply great !!

  • @ladislaugomes7447
    @ladislaugomes7447 Před 3 lety +1

    I wish I had a teacher like you growing up.

  • @amused6415
    @amused6415 Před 7 lety +4

    Nova did a great show on this called "The Great Math Mystery" but it's true that the question of whether we made it up or it already existed in the universe still remains. For kids, a hard to find but incredible video was done by Disney on math called Donald in Mathmagic Land.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před 7 lety +3

      Donald in Mathmagic Land was HUGE for me when I was a kid.

    • @enzogiannotta
      @enzogiannotta Před 7 lety

      For me Donald in Mathmagic Land is more like a meme.

  • @yakara77
    @yakara77 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for helping me grow

  • @assalane
    @assalane Před 7 lety

    Happy new year!

  • @NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself

    Favorites playlist, for sure.

  • @nachannachle2706
    @nachannachle2706 Před 6 lety +1

    Languages! My favourite subjects!
    Yes, Maths is a language...and an elegantly logical one too!
    I find its mythical rigidity unique and its mystical ability to spout out meta-truths fascinating.
    But alas, I need to work harder at it.
    Thanks for the inspiration! :)

  • @roberthuff3122
    @roberthuff3122 Před 4 lety

    You may want to investigate Godel's Theorem (Parts I & II). Part of his doctoral dissertation, Godel was able to translate all mathematical operations into unique strings of prime numbers that can be combined and operated upon to create and prove theorems. Using these methods he was able to prove that any non-trivial mathematical system is incomplete. Pretty profound and akin, I think, to the nature of the universe. Also, hope you expound on Bell's Theorem and Oblers' Paradox. Thanks for the great and thought provoking videos.

  • @madmedic7174
    @madmedic7174 Před 3 lety

    I see your videos and then forget everything and see them again

  • @GaeddaN
    @GaeddaN Před 6 lety +1

    I would like to see you discuss this with Max Tegmark