Screens and Technology for Everyday/Fast Driving
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- čas přidán 1. 08. 2024
- the heads up display does not flash in real life, this is due to camera framerate
In this video, we're breaking down the good, the bad, and the downright frustrating when it comes to modern car gadgets.
First up, let's talk about the annoyances. Ever found yourself wrestling with a touchscreen just to adjust the climate controls? Or felt like you needed a tech degree to navigate through a mess of apps while you're supposed to be focusing on the road? Yeah, it's a struggle. We'll dig into why some tech can feel like more of a hindrance than a help.
But fear not! There's plenty to love about today's driving tech, especially for your everyday commute. From customizable screens that turn your dashboard into a command center to easy access to all the info you need right at your fingertips, it's like having a personal assistant in the driver's seat.
And for those adrenaline junkies who live for speed, we've got some serious game-changers to talk about. Think automatic rev-matching, adaptive suspension systems, and electronically adjustable brake pedals - these features aren't just cool, they're essential when you're tearing up the track. And keeping an eye on vital stats like tire temperature? That could be the difference between victory and defeat.
00:00 Intro
00:59 Negatives
06:22 Positives for everyday driving
08:39 Setting up the car for fast driving
11:46 Positives for fast driving
18:08 Conclusions - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Wish more cars had the bentley hide screen feature thing. Makes it feel like its really a drivers car and not a geeky gadget thing
The “older” Audi’s had that
those screens are annoying even more at night, i'd rather not have a fckind ipad next to my face while i'm driving
@@ramonmv17 how are they annoying at night? most modern cars will automatically turn down the brightness in the dark.. they are barely even noticeable if at all
@@qwerasdfhjkio the less light inside the car the better you'll see the road
@@ramonmv17 I dont know what car you have, but modern ones have it to automatically darken so much, that its basically impossible to have reflections or decrease visibility
I think the worst part is manufacturers placing the climate control system in the screens instead of physical buttons. This becomes a night mare especially if your infotainment starts to lag or stutter and then you have to switch off and restart the car in order to refresh the system .
Yeah for example I had a courtesy car which was a new plate Citroën, while using it I had a call come up on the screen via android auto but my ac was on max so a lot of fan noise. I answered the call, but then had to navigate off my maps to the climate screen which lagged for a second and turn the fan speed down. In this time I couldn't hear what my caller was saying
One other thing I absolutely hate about modern cars is the lack of a physical handbrake lever. I've had a couple of incidents where it helped correcting understeer (was driving a civic with shitty tires on snow/rain, skidding into oncoming traffic and very little time to react. I instinctively gave the handbrake a gentle tap, enough to point the car back to the direction I want it to go.)
Excellent point.
Haha, Ive never heard someone use for that reason. But thats a good use and i agree.(i just wanna slide the car). And I feel way more secure with the actual lever than a stupid button
this shit right here is why I like cars like the MX-5 and the GR86 even more. No distracting screens - just analog controls with buttons and knobs.
YES! I love buttons and knobs! Give me buttons and knobs! I mean, a screen for my navigation and music would be nice, but don't put my climate control INSIDE THE SCREEN!
@@KajianTempwe all love knobs!
Get with the times grandpa
can u make a video on "how to get best fuel economy on manual car"???
Fantastic idea, straight onto the list. Thank you.
As usual, a great video mate 👍 I always look forward to watching these
Great video Mick.
Just started my classes to get my license ,
You’re vídeo have really been helpful
said it for years.. as a comparison. the aviation industry spent millions, or probably more likely billions, on researching how pilots interface witht he aircraft. and ultimiatly decided is was better, less stres full and less distracting to have certain things remain button or switch operated. the car industry however, spent 10 mins to decide it was cheaper to slap the cheapest tablet they could find in the car and call it a day... than actually bother with designing a dashboard with buttons and wiring looms. litteraly stoped bothering with any buttons at all. then they went even further and took away the instrument cluster too, just went with rediculous panoramic screen. did they bother to properly learn how to do software (you know since they have functionally 0 experience here) nope.. did they bother with developing a resonable UI that could be easily used while driving..... NOPE (at least not on VAG cars). did they bother to make the tablet at least stable.... nope...
am sure they are a bit better on newer cars..... but its just a fact some tasks were better physical buttons you could slap without looking at them
Yep, it's a lot cheaper for car manufacturers to install a touch screen and consolidate all controls there.
And then when it breaks (and they do a lot of the time) they can ask for ridiculous prices to fix it because "iT's hIgH tEcH"
@@impreza0109 yep high tech.... £40 bargain bin tablet.
dashes used to look incredible too. I want tan interiors and wacky teal again :(
@@MidnightGreen4649 yeh thats gone.. now that they dont have to desing anything around buttons and function, just one piece of tacky plastic and a big old cheap screen. done.
@@Gazzxy I can't wrap my head around it. Paint color options for modern cars, at least in the US, are terrible. Any color in the interior nowadays is usually either due to a special trim or a sign of luxury. How much cost cutting does removing these options actually do? Especially in the summer I hate the fact I couldn't get a tan interior or a brighter color inside my car.
I just wanted to let you know that your video of risk and rewards with the m 2 came up randomly to my recommended. I ended up watching 2 videos of yours cuz they’re so entertaining and informative 😂😂 keep it up bro 🙌🙌🙌
Congrats on the new car, also you're the G my man, you're one of the best car youtubers out there
Great video Mick!! I like that your videos cover the positive and negative aspects. Very well done, thanks
I appreciate that!
very well said Mick, great video - for me load the car up in tech but let me have my analog gauge cluster as an option
dont mind digital clusters.... but you know.. keep them as a cluster... the panoramic tablet just looks like a cheap bolt on, not part of the car.
@@Gazzxy It doesn't look cheap, it actually is.
@@Gazzxyhonestly, also agree and that's why I love the newer Mazda dash cause you get an analog style tach and speed but a 3rd digital gauge you can use to switch views
You see I was born in 2004 just turned 20 and this tech is lovely to me , wouldn’t have it any other way I don’t think.
Head-up display....the first time I tried to see it with sunglasses on and was thinking it has defaulted to backlight off or had broken! Turns out the polarising glasses stop you seeing it.
oof. when I learned these were a thing I was so amazed and wanted one immediately but this is a dealbreaker
I've got 3 as well, but I set it up so I have music controls on the main, GPS on the one behind the wheel and speed + speed limit in the window. And I specifically chose a car with an integrated screen, it just feels more tucked away and not so busy. Oh and I'd never buy a car where I need to mess about on the screen to change temp etc!
I just installed a 12.3” CarPlay screen in my old e series 1er and I absolutely love it. My 1 series does double duty so it’s great for everyday driving but if I don’t want it on while I’m doing some spirited driving I can turn it off
Quick question: do you use the same cornering techniques in your RWD M2 compared to the FWD Megane? Or did you have to adjust the cornering techniques for the RWD M2?
Not going fast enough on the road to feel a difference. I've got a track day booked tho :)
Hi, i love the way your POV looks! Can you please make a video about the gear and setup you use for your POV shots? Thank you!
Added to the list, thank you!
I could whip this together in like an hour
@@MickDrivesCars thank you ! 🙌
The 2017/19 BMW setup was perfect, maps just need to be in the dashboard
Where did you get that leather satchel from I see in the passenger side in most of your videos?
Looks cool? It looks like someone just stuck a tablet to the dash with cellotape 😂
What is your setup/camera for recording POV? I’m interested in recording some of my own, thanks!
All you need is a hat, a clip and any camera mate.
For audio I now use a DJI Mic 2, but for the majority of my channel it was a lav mic and a cheap audio recorder.
@@MickDrivesCars you should probably specify that you mean an action camera like a gopro before some idiot puts a large camera on their head 😭
Dudeeeeeeeeee it's something I've been thinking about actually
Mirrorless camera, the widest lens on the market... (Somehow) Strapped to my head... I would have the best pov footage on CZcams.
Choice and customization are key! Great technology and great car. But I would also like it, if you could switch off the huge middle screen completely. Are you able to do it?
Yep - track mode disables the main display
There should be options given to customize for buyers who don't want to be part of the cost cut measures and be forceful test subjects.
i drive a 2017 f22 220d manual. i know people say the f gen was dated towards the end of its life but personally i find it to be exactly what i like in terms of tech. analogue gauges, bluetooth audio but also a usb port to connect and charge. normal cruise control, not adaptive. if there was 2 things i wished it had it would be a touch screen head unit and apple carplay. but other than that, i dont need anything else really, its all al basically unnecessary for 99% of driving. i like auto lights as it means i cant forget to turn them on, but auto main beam is horrific. everything is still a physical button - heated seats and steering wheel, infotainment controls etc. g87 m2 will be my next car though in a few years time though, i love them, and tbh i definitely could get used to the digital stuff quite quickly, but it's just nice being able to not need to see everything to be able to change something
Na bro the f generation of bmws where just amazing my dad has the 2012 f30 320i that car is still great to drive even today
@@Keitumetsemulaudzi i love mine and it’s gonna be with me for quite a few more years yet. The manual box is lovely to use. Will most likely get a touch screen 10.5” head unit for Apple CarPlay at some point though
I will not be upgrading my 2017 AMG - (well mainly because the new toothless engine) but this screen BS is a BIG contributor to it.
Hi Mick, my first car was a 1956 Morris Minor, those cars were stock standard from new, my car never even had a heater provided. My new 2023 Subaru WRX has a 11.5 inch dash tablet loaded with many car adjustments, most is not required. Just recently my car told me to keep my hands on the wheel, i was actually picking my nose 🥺 🤔 Au
that's why im really glad i got the gen prior to yours. the new ones could have been so cool but I think the law's taking the fun out of em✌
@@MidnightGreen4649 My previous 2 wrx were a 2016 and a 2020 both suffered very loud road noise over course surfaces and even fitting Michelin Pilot sport 4 never made any difference 🥺 this 2023 has so much less road noise 👍
What's going to happen in 10-20 years time when loads of used cars in the market have touchscreens that need replacing?
Not really a complaint... but it seems like a future problem with the used car market is that new cars have so many features, it's just more stuff that needs replacing to keep a car capable of passing the MOT. My 2002 car has ABS which wasn't standard at the time, many cars didn't have it yet. But to pass an MOT, if my ABS is having issues (with a warning light on the dash), that's a failed MOT - not an issue with a TVR Tuscan which didn't have any of that stuff...
I've got a 1999 Rover 214.
It's modern enough to be easy to drive, comfortable, and reliable, but old enough that it doesn't have any over complicated things to go wrong.
Infact, about all it has got is a drivers airbag and seatbelt pretensioners, which caused me a problem with the SRS light coming on, but was sorted by cleaning the contacts.
There's no planned obselesence, and I can work on it myself. There's not really anything that could go wrong that would cause me to scrap it.
Modern cars can be scrapped because of a single faulty sensor!
Man these British country roads look so narrow, through the screen i get lil' scary watching you power through some of those corners with oncoming traffic. Maybe its the camera distorting it but the roads are so smaller in Britain than around my area in Germany. But i also think its cause you already know the road, for me its unknown
Some of our country roads are tiny. A lot of the time you have to mount the side to pass
We do have really narrow roads... These are not that.
You could fit 2 tractors side by side here. It's probably the camera - I've recently upgraded to a DJI action 4 and it makes everything look smaller/further away than before. Great for sense of speed.
I become concerned with Mick driving fast along these narrow roads, one day a big grey Kangeroo may bounce out from those hedge rows 😟 😟 Au
Your grand parents just won't be messing around with it while driving. I saw a study done on age and time on phone screens and road as compared by age. The younger the driver, the more time on the screen as in several seconds as compared to the older drivers.
Cycling Mikey will get people for using their phone in standstill traffic but this system is perfectly legal both at a standstill and at 70 mph - LOL
I'd say of it has gone too far . Personally I just prefer to hear the voice and look up the road. Then just glance at the maps to see what she is referring to . On my garmin it warns of sharp bends which is good for mountain decents to warn of hairpins which is good for roads that I don't know . Mine ain't touch screen so it's a pain to pan and zoom in or out . On my previous head unit it was so on a road I didn't know I could zoom out and get an idea of the road layout. If something like that could be applied to sat navs would be useful feature
It's funny, I actually hate the voice and always have it disabled
Came here for pov therapy drive hehe.
What job do you do besides youtube?
its not that the screens are inherently bad but the way they are implemented and the way the functions are meant to be accessed are not usually done properly
BMW had a masterpiece called idrive 7 which was all intuitively laid out and the screens actually fit the interior and looked like a part of the dash but no they threw it away for this rubbish
what is limousine stop
An extremely smooth stop
You’re supposed to set everything up before you set off on your journey and it is also an offence to use the cars screens if it’s deemed to be causing driving without due care and attention.
5:12 This is just one of a number of instances where I've noticed you haven't used your indicators as much, especially at roundabouts. Must be a design of BMW indicator stalks, i guess. Create a video on BMW indicators please.
What’s an indicator?
Even in the Megane I didn't indicate when there was no need to
BMW has been doing normal stalks since ~2014
@@MickDrivesCars indicators on my 2012 are aids. I never indicate unless really necessary, I always get stuck in an endless loop of indicating left then right trying to turn them off
@@thintoast1152 ah so that's why bmw drivers dont use their blinkers
The car tech situation is a joke - knobs should be the only reasonable way to adjust AC, in-car satnav should be better than Waze, dash cams should be standard, parking breaks should be consistent
They put in the tech because they can, not because it’s necessary or useful.
Probably cheaper aswell.
It’s almost taking away the fun from actually driving and replacing it with tech fun, and you’ve answered it yourself by only using quarter throttle, it’s too fast for the road, needs to be on track but it’s not a track car, I don’t know mick I think it’s all a lot too much, nice car but fun, No not for me.
Current M2 comp owner - I've a courtesy 330e at the minute with the same setup as yours - lord above it's all so unnecessary - Great gimmick for a daily to justify the price but completely irrelevant to the driving experience
The non-physical button tech is put in so they can charge a subscription for heated seats for example. If you subscribe you get it via the app. The element is already there but no need for switch as that’s only for subscribers and only available in app, cunning. No doubt they will come up with future features in updates to enable them to charge more. It’s basically just a way of ongoing charging, a way of constantly suckling at the consumers teats.
0:21 "I know it looks cool"
*stops*
No, it looks shit. Gadgetery that keeps you on the road at faster and faster speeds whilst otherwise playing dumb is all well and good, but the screens and controls need to be analogue if you like driving.
manual with auto rev match is an automatic. just buy an automatic
Uhm, no.
I hate to think how these cars are going look in 10 yeara. Not to be seen or useable I'll bet.
To play devil's advocate I think you're meant to set your HuD before you start moving hahaha
Just actually watched the video, come on do you really need all that stuff to have a little blast down a country road, it’s ridiculous and once it’s set up that’s it for the next 2 years as why would you keep changing it 🤷♂️ honestly it’s just not needed, get in start the car and drive, simples.
Can’t see that car being a fun car at all, too big, too fast, too much technology, on the public road it’s just too much that gets wasted, get yourself in a little hot hatch and you’ll have the biggest smile, with cars like the new M2, the driver will be the weakest link by a country mile.
Can't unleash the power while the cameras are on :)
I do half-agree with you though. It feels like a caged animal most of the time. But the big difference with RWD is you can excite the car with your right foot at low speeds. The Megane was fun until you lost grip... The M2 starts being fun when you loose grip. They're also exactly the same width and barely different length.
@@MickDrivesCars If your losing grip in the MK4 megane then your going 3X the speed limit on a public road, I could drive the Trophy R like I’ve stolen it and still not lose grip so god knows what your doing to lose grip on the public roads Mick, I can have much more fun and bigger smiles in my R26.R as it has 70 bhp less so on public roads I can use more of the cars power more of the time without using the brakes, these new M cars are just too fast and dare I say it getting pointless owning for the road unless it’s a vanity thing.