Understanding the rise of China | Martin Jacques
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- www.ted.com Speaking at a TED Salon in London, economist Martin Jacques asks: How do we in the West make sense of China and its phenomenal rise? The author of "When China Rules the World," he examines why the West often puzzles over the growing power of the Chinese economy, and offers three building blocks for understanding what China is and will become.
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In 1405 the Chinese sent a fleet of 200 ships with 30, 000 sailors and marines from China, thru Malaya, India, Arabia then to East Africa. They established diplomatic and trade links with native countries, but did not make a single colony or conquest. A few decades later the Portuguese and Spanish started their own great voyages. The natives they met suffered a very different fate. Dont believe me? Research Admiral Zheng He
I hope Philippines can get along with China again just like during our pre-colonial days.
Are you Taiwanese?
All Asian nations should unite including Japan with China or there will always be trouble in our region.
Wow I was watching a video about a railway tunnel just now and you were there too in a comment thread about China. Have some rest.
I'm out of here bye.
高木直美 You such an idiot
Who's here watching in 2021 ? 🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻
Happy new year
Me
He got it mostly right except for Hong Kong. Should have added the caveat, there will be one country - two systems.... unless hk goes for independence and separation. Otherwise , most has aged well.
Hi
Here
Today, 10 years after this speech, it has become clear that it is not that the West cannot understand China, but that the United States and the West are unwilling to face this reality.
The West simply doesn't want to understand China. At this rate they'll have to in the near future, whether they like it or not.
@@damblebee1253 Even if they do, what do you expect will happen when will happens with all the atomic bombs everywhere? do you belive they will let China take the country or will just send out the bombs? when China moves, that will be the time when humans will die out, it's that easy of a problem.
@@UmbraWeiss I don't know what you're talking about.
The ego problem.. and cant even admit it
also the 2020 projection was wrong. China's economy is not even close to being larger than America's.
I will come back in 2050, and write a comment says "well, well, you're totally right".
It is as if it already happened, Prometheus Ryan.
@@coreycox2345 this man constructs bullshit, the chinese government was treatened plenty in the last thousand years.. And has already taken a completely different stance on the 2 systems 1 country idea in HK
he is also completely wrong to even consider Taiwan to be a Chinese from a new world perspective, they are a sovereign state in almost every sense.. Taiwan may be primarily han Chinese in terms of genetics but they identify as Taiwanese - and they are not communist sympathisers and sheep..
He doesn't even mention ancient Chinese philosophy, the mandate of heaven, the idea that ultimate corruption cannot be sustained, he glosses over literally some of the worst atrocities in modern history to make China sound well and good when it's clearly evil..
@@robertbrown1338 Israel must be an angel for you.
@@robertbrown1338 But we don't have a dynasty now, just look in my eyes.
@@robertbrown1338 What is this “mandate of heaven” I keep hearing Westerners yapping about? It might be astonishing news for you but there wasn’t even a concept of “heaven” before Christianity came to China. The word that got translated into “heaven” actually refers to natural order of things. The term that got translated into “mandate of heaven” should be more akin to the meaning of a sense of destiny, or a sense of purpose granted by a higher power (wouldn’t say God because technically there isn’t a God in Chinese culture, either. It’s more of an aggregate of anything beyond human comprehension. In other words, we have a loose definition of gods, where buddha, ancient deity, spirits, and our renowned ancestors have tea, and Jehova, Allah, Mohammad and Jesus are also invited)
In short you can just translate “mandate of heaven” simply to “fate”. What is so evil about that?
And while ancient philosophers theorized that emperors were fated to rule, they also acknowledged the importance of the support of the people. People are like water and the rulers like boat. Water can float a boat. Water can sink a boat. But I guess that doesn’t attract nearly as much attention from Westerners as the weirdly overly religious translation of “mandate of heaven”.
Who's here watching in 2020?
me
+1
Here~
Happy Treefriends me
me too.this gus is right.
History is a chess game. Sometimes China won and sometimes China lose. But do remember, China has been playing it for 5000 years.
Luke you clearly don’t get the statement.
Luke ofcourse I don’t get you, you make no sense.
Luke jokes need context, Apple and oranges jokes aren’t funny but rather retarded.
You are funny. CCP’s been only around for 70 years and most of the time before that China’s only been mostly playing with itself and its small circle
@Luke I get that feeling
This TED Talk was nearly 10 years ago. Today we are only 5 years from Made In China 2025.
True
难哦，现在有美国的阻碍，这个计划很可能会变成2040甚至2060，这将是一个很长的过程，但是我认为我们会成功。
hope you could understand Chinese or ues translatesoftware
@@toonewang1482 我比較樂觀些，可能推遲..但不會太遲....美國的衰退也比預期的快，特別是疫情后..美國糟糕表現對其本國傷害很大，對其全球影響力破壞也很大...中國的施政和危機應對表現很出色..一上一下 優勢不小...
@@aison2735 你说的这个优势，是中国官僚体制的优势，这个不论是在战时还是在灾难的时候都很管用，比美国那种松散的管理要强太多。
可是如果美国真的封锁，我还是挺担心的，毕竟实力真的不如美国，中国的特别明显优势除了理工科人才资源充足，全产业链，世界最大市场以及新兴产业的后发优势，其他真的不多。。。。
我是宁可悲观点，努力干，结果超过预期，那我会更开心。
@@toonewang1482 中國和美國現在經貿已經深度融合，很大程度互相依託...徹底脫鉤是不可能的...芯片不賣中國，也沒地方會買..產品主要市場在中國.失去中國.美國的芯片等高科技產業立刻會陷入危機..甚至破產.這是可以預期的..美國資本不會傻到斷自己命脈的程度....這種狀況和美蘇冷戰時有很大不同..
作为一个中国人，我曾经在2015年在中国上大学时观看过马丁先生的这个视频，没想到现在在youtube能够再次重温一遍，他是一位真正的学者👍
Well said
Time has gone by so fast, it is 2020 now. Let me give you an advice: if you want to know China, just go to China and watch it by your self, not the Media
apparently, lots of westerns will do that only after American stock market collages
Yes,see from your eyes
The problem is that more than 50% of Americans cannot travel
It's not that easy, not a lot of people have the means to travel...
Lucas Cosi ..... we don’t need to go there. That is what the internet is about. And there are many many Chinese here who tell us what it is like from all different angles. And some tell the truth and some lie. So the more you talk with the better it will be.
As of 2019, he has the right to say "I told you so"
Their GDP is still smaller. We'll see
@@SerZachariah GDP is just a way to indicate economic power, it is not reliable as you think. If you change to other indicators, you may find China already surpass US years ago.
@@erwingobig1954 Name some "indicators"?
@@SerZachariah You can take look at PPP, or total electricity comsumption or total oil comsuption.
@@erwingobig1954 Right on, I'll look into it more. But also the median household income is much higher in the US but there are smaller countries ahead of the US in that stat.
Damn. I didn't even know my ancestors played golf.
Completely agree with Mr Martin Jaques. The US and Western countries never understood what China was and still do not understand what it is now.
USA #1
What China was ; includes being so arrogant during the Industrial Revolution that it floundered like a third World Country despite the West offering technology to improve during 18th & 19th Centuries.
China never Navigated the Globe then ; they refused Sextants offered by the British because it was Western technology. Worse , when most of the modern world was using Tractors for farming, the Chinese were still using Animals to plough their fields ; again they were late to get onboard.
The US and Western Countries never understood what China was - that could be said of China's understanding of the West. Just for instance ; what the Viking's used for Steel in their Swords took China a thousand years to match in metallurgy quality. Today , China cannot make reliable Jet Engines or even Advanced Micro Chips - they still have a long way to catch up in technology. The Chinese are very, very capable as individuals ; their Culture is what holds them back.
@@1arritechno And Chinese culture, especially under Marxism, devoid of innovation.
Excellent.
@@1arritechno Please remember the OPIUM WARS
The key for China to grow fast: do not listen to the westerner
That applies not only to China but to the rest of the civilized world. Never listen to the Westerner because they have no clue.
MrShamsiyah and yet...and yet the west has dominated for the last 500 years
That s correct
Usa made China grow and develop economically since the contracts by President Nixon .
They've grown fast BECAUSE they listen to (and steal from) the western world...
As a Chinese grow up in China, I got say this man knows Chinese culture at core, truth be told, he knows China better than most Chinese people I know.... This is especially rare for a western scholar, since most western scholars tend to view China with biased eyes, sometimes with propaganda....
+Desmond Qu
英國很親中的，尤其這位又是左翼人士，，對於他幾乎只講了中國的優點是不意外的。
但我必須承認他的演講真的是言之有物呀～
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哈喽
I'm Chinese and was born in the US. I love every country. I love all people. Borders and countries separate us, but at the end of the day, I firmly believe in the good we of all people on this planet.
Moon Leah the fact that you were born in the United States just discredits any relation to you being Chinese. What percent of Chinese people do you think of any exposure to anything outside of China. More so what percent of Chinese people do you think either leave China let alone come to expose anything different other than what they're told you think of something different.. furthermore even if they are able to think differently about experiences that are different outside of what they're told and what their confined to, how often do you think they come up with unique or alternative understandings of alternative experiences that are alternative to what they experience?
When's the last time somebody in China had any thought that was unique, interesting, palatable , sociable or humorous to the rest of the world, artistic on a sake of its own, and not inherently racist or of some commoditized false value such as its approximation to Western value or Western Norms or expectations or the lack thereof!
China is a plague, a rutheless efficient blistering machine set out to attain what ends? I don't even think it's self knows what will satisfy it's endless perfectionism at everyone else's expense itcluding itself.
I don't know maybe it's just me but it seems like Chinese people are pretty self-centered non altruistic and lacking the basic principles probably needed to humanize itself in this global world. I feel like they treat the rest of of the world as we would treat aliens at an intergalactic space Market in which we are unhappy with the vendor we are dealing with . But remained poised and businessmen likeish
this video is now more relevant than ever. even some estimates turn out to be true sooner than it was predicted, especially after the covid pandemic.
Martin Jacques is an expert on China but he is of French descent
As a person coming from the future Martin had a very deep insight into the future! What he said in this talk is happening now in front of everyone's eyes!
Makes me wonder when a certain US president hurt China's trade read this book or not.
China to Chinese ethnicity is like Jerusalem to Jewish people or Muslim. It is an abstract concept, a nation that everyone who believes in it trys to get to. Whoever believes in it, would want to fight to unify and become the sole ruler of China. It is like Jerusalem.
Well said and well OBSERVED
Nine years after it is still a marvelous introduction to the importance of China in the past, present and future.
Time tests words for us.
Love you dear.
IM Chinese,we start know the world. u known us?
lady，i mean you don’t mind chinese short dig
I thought this was a speech made in less than half a year. Didn’t expect it was eight years ago😂
"The chinese view the state as the patriarch of the family". My goodness, that is razor sharp and correct. Gives me goosebumps....... This is guy is dangerously intelligent.
buddhatwig ...that’s why it’s not wise to hire Chinese in high tech know how !
buddhatwig his wording is truly amazing. We Chinese sometimes call xi “xi dada” meaning “father xi” or “papa xi” and it started about 5 years ago.
Why does this surprise you at all? This is the inherent nature of communism!! It comes above the family and blood. Did you not listen to Lenin or Stalin or Mao? You appear to need a CZcams video Ted talk to understand the basic tenants of godless communism where the government is all powerful and above even one's family.
Why don't call it socialism? Or any other term describing more even - equalitarian society. And what is wrong with a such concept?
buddhatwig he knows China so well, OmG he knows too much
Here in 2021 still sound hugely enlightening. "We are experiencing a huge democracy process of mankind, 90% of the world's population will finally have their say after 200 years." What a wise man.
Most the Westerners can not digest his talk now. But ten years from now, everything he said now will be a reality
Joyce Sin
Including the bit about Hong Kong, eh?
Sun Tze said, "If you want to win a war against your enemy, you must understand your enemy and yourself."
very true, but why not have a different approach where in we all strive towards a greater goal, of human race betterment, and the compition we need to move forward comes from exploring the universe....
nshadow888 “if you know yourself and your enemy, you shouldn’t fear the results of a hundred battles”
@@rouchlcw I get what you're saying but j don't think that's the correct translation🤔
I have to say it's ture. But why we can't go with other soft way instead of war.
@@moemokkkim7163 the question has to be turned to the western world. for the last two centuries, most of the wars was started by the west
这也给国人提了个醒。不要以为西方都被忽悠了，西方还是有非常多有智慧的人。我们不能有像美国红脖子一样的那种自大，而要脚踏实地，守护我们的文明。
管他呢 继续忽悠！🤣
人口基数大，人均就没那么多了。还有很远的路要走
@@kazeyo_1458 是啊，道阻且长。
Translation?
you can copy the word to translator
Am watching this in 2021 and can't believe how true this is turning out to be
2021: First time I have seen this presentation from 10 years ago. Martin Jacques certainly knows his stuff... nail on the head
Well, here we are 9 years later, many things he said about Chinas rise have become a cold hard fact.
FACTS that hurts but we must face it
Why is it cold and hard tho? We do not have a preinstalled hostility like you westerners do...
8年了，回顧一下。很多他預測的事情實現了或在計劃裏了，但是他的演講在西方激不起任何浪花，西方世界還是一貫的高傲。孫子曰：“兵非貴益多也，惟無武進，足以并力、料敵、取人而已。夫惟無慮而易敵者，必擒于人。”
人都一样，清朝也是等到人家大炮打进来了才如梦初醒，什么时候中国航母超过美国了他们自然会来排队磕头的
给我的感觉就像是历史在重演
妈耶，孙子上CZcams还说话啦！快来看啊！
西方是在自己脑子里建墙，这个墙更难翻，但我们不care
果然应验了。
He told the truth, reality and accurate forecast
ummmm, so Hong Kong is the same it was 20 years ago ? :D :D that "One country, two systems" is still in place? :D :D
@@mihkelvilismae7498 Yes HK is the same as 20 years ago in terms of house living and food culture but they will changed and be reformed by China in the next decades
Absolutely Satisfying to see an Eastern nation standing up to the Western bullies. Welldone china
Eventhough i hate both...
But yah its refreshing but china is also a evil genius..
whether you agree with him or not, he is a very wise man. He seems to know what he's talking about.
I watched this speech 3 times so far - 6 years ago, 3 years ago, and today. Each time after I watched this video, I had a deeper understanding of what this professor was trying to deliver and a stronger belief of what he projected about the future.
It's quite amazing, his understanding at such an early stage when the rapid rise of China wasn't so evident yet.
convenience? U mean conviction?
@@liuroxanne8261 Thanks for pointing out the typo
他是最了解中国的学者，在中国也很有名，不过中国观众都不想让他告诉西方世界中国的真实情况，让他们继续迷失自我，我们闷声发大财😄
@Jeffrey Wager If you count in GDP, China is second to US, I think it will take several years for China becoming first. But if you count in Market, export, and other aspects of economics, China is already first for years.
what martin jacques said ten years ago a decade now it is starting to prove now step by step china is becoming the greatest in every way 👍well done china🇨🇳
M Erwin: Did China get any help from other countries?
Mass repression of free speech and journalistic freedoms, activities bordering on genocide, woohoo,number 1 !!!! China you da best
western propaganda always fake news and bullshit ..actually jealousy is the main reason and create the fake story and fake news 😂
@@mihkelvilismae7498 actually jealousy is the main reason and you create fake story mr clown
@@merwin6771 I have always wondered - did the Tinnamen square massacre happen or not? Something about Chinese soldiers killing Chinese people. Did it happen, do you know?
It is simple, hard work and unity. United States lacks in both.
Yes and lack of freedom, with anyone who says anything against the CCP is sent to re-education camp. They sure are united, it's very bad for anyone who does toe the line.
@@MultiChrisjb
Us is the one who lacking freedom.. and it is a puppet of israel.
And also two third of USA don’t have 500$ in savings.
@@MultiChrisjb now who's brainwashed
@@MultiChrisjb You're definitely very right.
先进的文明从不排斥其他文明，而是包容吸纳。
先进的文明从不强迫别人必须接受，因为谁好谁心里清楚。
先进的文明一直在改进进步与时俱进生生不息，只有落后的文明才会拒绝改变逐渐衰亡。
Michael Vittman You kiss your mother with that mouth? What kind of society has bred such a waste like you?
@@user-ee4xl1bo1i what kind of society eating cats, dogs, and beating them alive before?
Michael Vittman plz don't use any product made in this kind of society, if you do use them,shut up
@@user-ee4xl1bo1i i am not use any chinese products
@@michaelvittman2947 If you were from a white man's sperm, he must had some difficulty on English grammar.
Thank you, Martin Jacques, for explaining the fundamental differences between Western and Eastern cultures.
IAM trying to really understanding foriegn policy this guy on track
@@lloydbarnett584 Dear Lloyd, may I suggest to go there where they speak a language foreign to you. Live there, befriend with the neighbors. Set aside your pre-disposition and absorb contradicting realities.
Alex Goslar wise advises
Correct! Matin was not talking about China only, its whole asian nation coz other countries around China was effected by China culture.
China to Chinese ethnicity is like Jerusalem to Jewish people or Muslim. It is an abstract concept, a nation that everyone who believes in it trys to get to. Whoever believes in it, would want to fight to unify and become the sole ruler of China. It is like Jerusalem.
2021年再回过头来看Martin Jacques教授的十年前的演讲依然感到震撼，社会科学向来不具备预测未来的能力，但马丁教授对中国乃至世界的发展展望可以说极为精准且目光长远，使我不得不佩服先生的睿智。
Looking back on Professor Martin Jacques' speech ten years ago, I am still shocked. Social Science has never been able to predict the future, but Professor Martin's vision of China and the world's development is extremely precise and long-sighted that I have to admire his wisdom.
This is becoming more relevant as time passes.
That man has deep understanding of chinese culture and its fundamental values. He is absolutely right, Europe has little or no knowledge of China...the last part was so funny 😂
I have to say this guy really know about china.
+Cooper Joe still a western perspective, but yes , much better than ordinary westerners
Lived 15 years in China, my wife is Chinese and no, he has it wrong in many of his ways.
Le noir you are right
China doesn't have racism
He is wrong in some points, like his thoughts about the reasons why Chinese think they belong to the same race.
september 2020 now.
those 2 closing pictures are hillarious!
The wonderful presentation which gives one depth of knowledge on the understanding of the paradoxes between the two worlds of European and Western Thought to how China lives and breaths. Although this presentation is about 10 years old there is much it gives to the listener. On the part of the listener, the ability to think critically is extremely important. I've spent a lot of time studying cultures and the history of ideas. As an American Expat who has lived in tthe Middle East for 2 decades, I am intrigued with Dr. Jacques's insight.
watching this after USA vs Huawei issue...
Yeah me to :) Interested to see how this prediction turned out
me too
Me as well
We should thank President Trump for stoping a modern day X-hitler.
wen guo Trump is behaving like hitler himself and usa is becoming more facist
As a Chinese, I'm so often bewildered and confounded by the differences between China and the western world. This guy's speech definitely offers me a new and more profound perspective. Look forward to seeing his predictions about how the future world will be like steadily becoming the actual reality... XD
"the patriarch of the family."Well that's quite accurate.
I'm not Chinese but what I understand is
CHINESE = HARD WORK.
Work smart, Work hard Choose one
Frankly, this is the most sensible,objective and in-depth opinions I have heard about China. And it's unbelievable this speech was delivered in 2011. Great!
Agreed 100 %
Who's here watching 2019?!
US China trade war has stalled that process. Predictions are never perfect. Variations!
Me
@@DrPrashant_Sharma Exactly. Just wait untill the Chinese real estate bubble bursts. It will become a second Japan. Constant crisis and virtually zero growth over many years. It will be interesting to see if the communist party can keep it's tight reighn.
@@actionms8566 hoping to see India cash in here!
This CZcams Recommendation.
It's 2022 now, I just finished my annual listening of this lecture. Thanks Dr. Jacques.
"If you want to see what's in store for the West tomorrow then you need to look at China today"
No wonder all developed and developing countries have so much bitterness towards China.
yes, because we dont want a corrupt authoritarian state that brainwashes us daily, imprisons us if try to protest against the government and censors us if we dont lie about reality in the same way as the state? Obviously there is bitterness there. Oh, also I would like to have concentration camps in my country.
I think it’s a myths that developing countries are bitter. They are approaching China (not the West) for development as they see the Chinese model to a viable alternative with favorable conditions compared to dealing with the West. China’s rise is the rise of the developing world.
Lol... everything in the market is designed by USA, Germany, Italy or Japan. China only designs crap...
That "I told you so" moment this guy must be having now....
In ten more years he will be having an even more I TOLD YOU SO I'M A SECULAR PROPHET moment.
🤣🤣🤣 China is falling apart.
Everyone talking back then about the rise of China and they still do, this guy is wrong about almost everything.
@@JohnPap21 care to explain a bit?
@@fightingcat9477 Yeah, that's why China's growth has severely slowed down in the last decade compared to the decade before.
Probably the best video explanation I've heard about China. Most people do not understand China and its civilization but this video said it perfectly and objectively.
It's propaganda from a CCP mouthpiece who's been a communist all of his life. Like a lot of communists, he's a good liar, but not much good at anything else.
@@albertdem1352 Yes
Totally agree
Probably the worst video about China! China is on its way out. Goodbye, China!
@@albertdem1352 If so, then China's development today has indeed lived up to his expectations.
China to Chinese ethnicity is like Jerusalem to Jewish people or Muslim. It is an abstract concept, a nation that everyone who believes in it trys to get to. Whoever believes in it, would want to fight to unify and become the sole ruler of China. It is like Jerusalem.
I been following this since last 11 years. Anyone who is watching in 2022.
Astonishingly, 10 years later his prediction came true
In 2019 May
Most of his preditions are proving true
China is Coming back at its top
Lots of love for China and Chinese From its Friendly Country Pakistan🇵🇰🇵🇰
Thank you from a chinese
Pakistan! Forever Bro! From China.
Thanx a lot guyzzzz
It shows our love jointly to the whole world
Forever friends with Pakistan！From China！
Abdul Rehman's Hayya Thank you my brother ,you are our best friends in the world!🤝🤝
Martin Jacques is a very wise man, the West would do well to listen to him & others like him. The simple message is China & Asia is returning to predominance it held for most of history, after 200 years of Western dominance.
No, rather something wrong in the Western mentality in Anglo-Saxon-Allied Nations. predominance or not, China need not apply to us than our own Absolutist forms of Government. Mr. Jacques challenges that fundamental belief on Government, as his predecessor, Jean Jacques Rousseau did two centuries ago, and promotes the necessary development in human thought, not just in human rights, but in respecting others and their differences - the West must undertake.
paulmaking1980 as a Chinese I expect westerners to be arrogant and I hope they continue to overlook China. :) at the end we see what happens
Historically China never had predominance. Unless you speak about Asia.
But not once it has the highest economy per capita. And for its Nation economy it was only during the Song dynasty that it has the world highest economy. But just for 200 years.
And the West dominate the world in every ways, science, military economy since the 15th century.
Le noir
Are you kidding me? The Han Dynasty matched the Roman Empire, the Tang Dynasty was when China pulled way ahead of the world. These were before the Song Dynasty.
Even after the Mongol Conquests, the first half of the Ming Dynasty dwarfed European economies. It was the post Zheng He isolation in the later Ming Dynasty that coincided with the Renaissance that allowed Europe to catch up, and even then, it took the stagnant Qing dynasty, coupled with the Industrial revolution in Europe before the West overtook China. And it did so only with the resource available from their colonial holdings in Africa, India, South East Asia and the New World!
The irony was that the reason Europeans started their colonial empires to begin with was to protect and promote their trade with China!
China was no doubt biggest deal for much of the past 2000 years!
@LE Noir I think you need to take a world history class to get your facts straight...
Surely, this guy is a modern prophet. He knows how to read the signs of the time. A great story teller of our world's civilization! Thanks, TED, for this informative and enlightening talk.
He is a Marxist. If you read his book, he clearly analyzes the world with a dialectical method. Marxists' aren't prophets, they just scientifically analyze the world in a way that other people can't which makes them seem like prophets. Jaques is extremely adept at hiding his Marxist views, which is why he hasn't been censored and delegitimized into non-existence.
如果在2011年看到这段演讲我会觉得老爷子牛吹得有点大了，但2020年的3月看到，正好是西方国家的抗议=疫做法真的一言难尽，老爷子是真牛啊！
没准儿今年中国GDP真能赶上美国
u1s1 确实 百年未有之大变局
Ruitao Han 还有差距
@@solidchain6084 ppp算的话14年还是15年就超过了
@@ruitaohan9776 别扯，赶不上的，再等30年都不行，维持现状才是最佳，不要盲目。大跃进的痛苦还历历在目呢。况且我们的GDP也有水分。借着这次疫情，国家领导相当清醒，挤出了大量的水分，并且调整了许多方案。不要迷信GDP，强大才是第一位的。
China has no secret. if there is one, hard work.
That and the systematic assimilation of various cultures to better fit with the Han chinese homogeneous culture. Much like what many western powers have done in the past.
@@Forastero011 Well. most sinification is already finished several thousand years ago...
@Heather Larson yes
@Heather Larson So no talk about the huge IP theft from silicon valley. Aight
And COMMUNISM
2019-05-27 we see that this man was right
read up about Hong Kong.
@@petersusana617 Institutionally, Hong Kong remains the same. He's right.
@@petersusana617 well now hong kong is already wasted by itself and who use hong kong to weaken china
Martin Jaques is based in facts and experience. His years of studies has revolutionized my mind.
Indeed
Summary in 2021:
1. China has surpassed the US in GDP in PPP terms becoming number 1 in the world economy ranking.
2. China has the largest high speed rail network in the world, the length of which are about 65.000km.
3. China bought Africa.
4. China leads the world in electric cars ownership and production.
5. China has it's own space station.
6. China landed a drone on the far side of the moon.
7. China landed a drone on mars.
8. China builds 3 aircraft carriers in a span of just 10 years.
9. The US and Europe withdrew from unwinnable wars in the middle east after 20 years to reorganize its military against China.
10. The US started a trade war with China, viewing it as a rising threat to economic influence.
11. China pioneers 5G tech.
12. China launches the B&R initiative, with over 100 countries signing up. (1.7 trillion commited, while the US spent 1.7 trillion for the F-35 JSF program.)
13. Almost everything is made in China, yes everything.
14. The West decided to activate the human rights card and doubled down on alleged HR abuses in Xinjiang, HK and Tibet.
Might miss a few things but, curious to see what will happen in 10 years.
十年后，我希望中国🇨🇳是最强大和自信的国家。带领全世界走向繁荣、团结，达到我们希望的目标“人类命运共同体”
China will fail because of it's greed.
我本来想用英语说，结果想想还是算了。西方的国家在经历了几百年的主导地位后，觉得真的有点像我们清朝的时候。那个时候皇帝也是各种瞧不上他们的东西，觉得我们是最优秀的，即使有西方大使给他洋枪火炮他也就看看觉得很稀奇，然后就放仓库了。我们的经验来源于历朝历代的经验之谈，他们看不上就看不上吧。毕竟不能要求所有人理解我们“以铜为镜，可以正衣冠；以史为镜，可以知兴替；以人为镜，可以明得失”的价值观念。
最后这个关于魏征的引用可能英语也不好说😂
西方人看不懂文言文，所以很难了解我们。当他们看懂了，已经被我们同化的差不多了。
以史为鉴是我们最宝贵的文化传统，西方没有历史，何谈借鉴，风水轮流转，曾经傲慢无视它国目空一切的我们也附身上了这些西方国家，老天是公平的。
韩文昊 很难想象老外捧着《论语》慢条斯理，摇头晃脑的读会是一个什么情景😂
历史真的是很棒的东西。
Taiwan has been booming before China did, and it had a similar high pressure, non democratic but highly efficient system. But after the 90s when Taiwan reformed into democracy, it became endless fighting between KMT and DPP and the economy stopped growing.
In China and Soviet Union you hear them having all those "5 year plan" "10 year plan" and now Xi Jinping is having a "13th 5 year plan". This could not happen in democratic system, all the politicians only care about within their term, and even if someone makes a long term plan, it's very likely to be thrown into the garbage by the next government of the different party. This has been happening in Taiwan, in the US, and in every democratic country in the world.
Korea, Singapore, Japan were the same as Taiwan in the history, achieving economy miracle under dictatorship.
Typical democracy country (UK USA FR ETCT) lacks of long terms continuous plan on development, this 8 year gov walked 8 steps and the next 8 year gov pull him back 4 steps.
张天元 Like a Chinese official said, "Would you let your 3 year old child go earn his own meals, compete with adults in the 'free market'? No, he would starve to death. Then why should we do this to our business?"
The "no regulation, small government free market" is a western trap, so that the international giants can slaughter the developing countries' companies and eat all their markets.
u06jo3vmp tittytainment.
张天元 傻逼好像中国真是独裁一样，你这样只会误导更多西方人
Wei Zhang 你觉得西方人分得清一党专政和独裁的区别吗？在他们的字典里这本身就是一回事情，视频里像马克这种清醒的知识分子能有多少呢？就说现场的观众里听完这个讲座能清醒走出西方文明中心论和一元论的又能有多少呢？不要上来就贴个标签，讨论就好好讨论。
Now, nearly the end of 2022, while the world and economies are yet experiencing erosion of the Covid tides, his views are still among the most wise and correct ones! Thank you Professor and to you guys watched this video and read my comment.
Absolutely CORRECT. Well said
If you visit China and talked to the people, you will generally see care, respect and admiration towards people from the Western countries. Whereas when you visit western countries and talk to western people about the Chinese you get hatred and even threats of violence. There's the difference between the two different societies.
.... the difference is that i can organise a mass protest against the government in West countries and also use the internet, and spread my anti-government views there, but in China I might just disappear if i try that. also it has fake internet. so theres the difference. wow, really, are you 10 years old that you dont understand the difference? :S
Irrelevant and stupid 👆
@@mihkelvilismae7498 good👍 USA WIN, CN LOSER
@@mihkelvilismae7498 对对对你说的都对，一定要坚定地相信你自己
In fact the word "nation" in Chinese is 國家, not just 國 (which also means nation). 家 means "family". In Chinese culture 國 and 家 are deeply connected. There is a Taiwanese old propaganda song called 沒有國哪裡會有家(How can there be family if there's no nation?). It may sound ludicrous to westerners, but the logic is simple: without a strong nation to protect its people, our families will be killed and raped by the northern nomads, and in modern times, the western and Japanese imperialists.
when we get strong，never invade others
We kinda did though. China didn't become this huge country from the 中原 central plain by friendly inviting others to join in. Also we invaded Korea and Vietnam several times, and Japan once if you count the Mongol Yuan dynasty as China too.
Communist China is what is wrong with China today. Bullying other smaller countries over small island dispute is what it is good at doing, I have no doubt that what happen in the past world war had put China back in terms of economic conditions. Many millions of lives lost due to atrocities China committed to its people. Chinese Communist party are just an organize Mafia nothing more, they have Law and Policy, but continuing using the Law of the Jungle.
sinh chiem bullying other small nations? Like afghan or Iraq ? Steal lands? Like Hawaii? Commit atrocities ? Like genocide toward native Americans ? Wait a second, how dare you criticize the great all mighty USA ? You must have lost your mind.
Lu Hawaii is a state with senators and congressmen in the federal government, hardly a colony. In fact the last president was born in Hawaii. You sound ridiculous.
Get off the China propaganda, 'we so bullied, US so mean, we are super special' lol
99.99% Accurate. This was in 2011.
Imagine this guy gives a speech about the danger of Artificial Intelligence, right now, 2019, and nobody listens. 10 Years Later, R.I.P. Earth.
"Imagine this guy gives a speech about the danger of Artificial Intelligence, right now, 2019, and nobody listens. 10 Years Later, R.I.P. Earth." - You just made your own baseless prophecy and trying to glue it to this guy? LOL
gordon chang is a better expert
Martin Jacques is one of a few, if not the only, foreigners who really known about China.
What an amazing lecture.
每一次中国关键性的发展都少不了西方的压力，例如我们的氢弹原子弹，我们的航空工业等等，现在又是一个新的挑战，我们会顶住的
This is an amazing speech, im watching this in March2019
Martin Jacques is now a well respected guest in All kind of Talkshows in Chinese
This distinction between how the West views the state versus how he describes how the Chinese view the function of their state is interesting. I have never thought of viewing it that way before.
The dude is incredibly clever and far-sighted. Blow my mind. His understanding to China is better than me! ------from a Chinese in London, 2018
Time for me to start learning Chinese.good bye u.s.a.china here I come.I hope to open a business there.
Damn, he did such a good job blowing your mind
Prof Martin Jacques was a registered Communist and highly interested in East Asia for decades. So it's no surprise, but I hope to see more western intellectuals like him who are open-minded in this way.
What he talked about how East Asian know more about Western culture and more cosmopolitan than the West, while the West feel like they do not need to know the rest of the world since their cultural influence is still no.1 in the world, etc. reminds me of the Qing China's attitude towards the rest of the world. Karma is coming =)
Aurelia Dee Woo exactly!! I’m a Chinese and I agree with u. That seems like a inevitability of history
It took 200 years, but the tables have turned. We were born in a lucky generation.
American：why should I care about other contry? WE HAVE EVERYTHING AND WE DON'T NEED THEM.
Chinese: been there bro(≖_≖ )
安迪 very well summarized 😆
the wheel of fortune. everything moves in a cycle
A nation can not grow without unity.
i don't think rising is the right word for China. Historically, China has been on top for thousands of years. Therefore the right term is "comeback" in my opinion.
you are right man,millions of Chinese have used this word "comeback"years,it's the main task of our generation
雖然這個視頻快8年了，但西方人的普遍看法還是原來那樣，還好，哈哈~
老教授无奈啊，看了几年了，评论风气居然真的还是一样，固然腐朽保守。战忽局美国分部CNN支部功不可没，嗯轮子的China Uncensored支部也要加鸡腿。
Yibo Liang +1
@@yiboliang8338 那要加好几装箱鸡腿😁
500年前发生在中国的事情将会发生在西方世界。当有一天梦被打醒时，为时已晚。幸运的是，中国的悠久历史给后代十足的经验教训，我们懂得什么叫夜郎自大什么叫居安思危。但是很显然，西方人除了少数像老教授那样居安思危的人基本都是盲目自信。当有一天他们被打醒时，中国不会给他们机会
+1 哈哈 和西方的城市一样
幸好这种人少，不然中国就麻烦了。。。
别提醒他们，这和当年的天朝上国心态何其相似，闷声发大财，猪对手越多越好。
其实这个人态度很中立，既不亲华也不反华，不过话说回来如果反华也不可能有正确见解。
放心吧，公知和带路党已经用他们的浅薄和无知替中国崛起做了掩护……
没想到公知原来起到这样的作用
金政委名言啊
Who's watching in 2022
No, we Han people are not disrepectful to the Tibetans or Uighurs. At least all the people I have met in the past 32 years of my life, including my classmates from minority ethnic groups, we never disrespected them. Also, in our textbooks of history from primary school to high school and to university, we always have explicit introduction of clothes, food, traditions and biological features of people from all ethnic groups in China, 56 ethnic groups. Every Chinese New Year Gala in all the TV stations, we have performances of songs and dances from all the ethnic groups and all the population enjoyed them the same way. So honestly, I don't know why it is depicted like this. I lived in England, traveled around Britain and now in Canada, I think the media has to be fair and face the truth.
此人不能留 就凭他很明确地指出中国的体系是靠‘文明国家’而非‘民族国家’这点
决不能让他继续提醒西方 哪怕这是很早以前的视频
我希望任何认同我们文化的人 不要去刻意与西方争论 打没用的键盘嘴仗
那句话怎么说的来着？ 遇到一个sb，不要去试图说服他，而应该顺着他们来，把他们培养成大sb
Qin Zhang 正确。在国外有人问我中国会不会崩溃我说会。我不知不觉也成了自干五....哦不，是“自干忽”..
这也是我一直跟一下对中国有偏见的人的见解与做法.......看到"培养成大sb" 笑到我了..
是的，让有偏见的人更有偏见。永远不要叫醒他们。
就像近代中国清末时候他们不叫醒我们一样。
😂
Lee Kuan Yew once said that Democracy is the result of prosperity not the cause of it. Singapore and China are proven of the saying.
Mr. Li also said, "I never thought that the so-called Western-style democracy would bring about progress. In fact, it would bring more chaos and retrogression."
Yes,I strongly agree. Westerners use democracy to cheat a lot of developing countries, because most of developing countries don’t have enough ability to assure everyone’s right
True
If China didn't have control over Hong Kong, their economy would be no where near where it is today.
Free trade and democracy is exactly the reason for their prosperity.
Durant Rza clearly you don’t understand China
Great, hard workrs, loveable kind people (China). Goutham Budda (Siddharth)🙏🙏 Love from south india
He is a respectable scholar and prophet! What he said has been realized in China!
This comment was sent on 29/4/2017, lots of thing he predicted is achieve now.
@First Last TM 1999 That project was proved to be a scam of an enterpriser who wanna defraud investors
空中巴士确实是投资诈骗啊，搜一搜嘛。如果你是湾湾当我没回过你。
Yeaaaaah right!!! China's number one ❤️
你的英文名和LOL里的左伊一样啊
英文说成这样 还不如干脆写中文
What an amazing speech! This guy was so bang on his predictions.
Haha.
LMAO. That is not what the people say in HON-KONG right now.
Russian Bot HK belongs to China according to Chinese culture. And HK doesn’t belong to HKers. The 1.4 billion Chinese can definitely vote for HK’s future.
@@russianbot7172 Why? Still 1 country 2 systems. Mainland is still peaceful. And HK is in riot. haha
9年前中国人就注意到了这个视频，事实证明了他理论的合理性，而高傲的西方人依然无法正视这一点
I viewed this some years ago. I viewed this again. Still refreshing, as truth should do
“The world is being driven and shaped by developing world, not by the developed world.”
我真心不喜欢这哥们。。就是因为他 我真心感觉的危险感，因为这个哥们对我们的文化已经思想的了解已经进入了 另一个完全不同的境界 我对西方人的了解 他们对中国文化的了解程度 完全升华掉了。、。。
他的思想比台湾人都要成熟对中国的了解，我觉得这太可怕了，这也是英国政府以及整个欧洲对中国的态度来了180度的大转弯。因为他们的政府听取了他的建议。我觉得 所谓的 西方学者，他们真心是存在的。。。虽然我以前都觉得他们是扯淡的。。太可怕了 他竟然提到了 汉族。。。这就意味着 他搞清楚了 为什么后几百年中国为什么那么弱鸡 即使在 清朝初期 在西方眼中也强不到哪去，因为明朝已经开始用火枪 和火炮了，因为末代出了2个 昏君 导致末代皇帝 也无能为力
+seymour wang 倒不用开玩笑说怕，西方学者没几个能接受他的想法的貌似，我看过一场他参与的辩论赛，感觉他苦口婆心的说着肯定中国的话，但没人听的进去。
西方以贬低中国作为政治正确，他这类的言论根本不是主流。
这样就放心了
可是那帮洋人个个高姿态，犹如晚清时一样，心里想着我堂堂普世价值还干不过一帮中国佬，那么我就要看看，中国人说风水轮流转，三十年河东三十年河西。
感觉跟那帮傲慢的欧洲大陆国家比较起来，英国人的务实精神令人害怕。以前看《晚清七十年》，英国人不怎么占地，最喜欢做的事情是要海关税务权利。而且很神奇的是，别的殖民地国家往往仇恨宗主国，而英联邦国家往往对英国人感恩戴德。我一个印度同学，出身外交官世家，他说他爷爷说，英国人统治的时期，是印度最好的时代。
“I told you so" he said, now on 25th June 2019
This is 9 years old. Very insightful talk
I've been watching it every year to check the time line.
lol
Well this is no illusion. They were the most advanced civilization from 589-1644 A.D. by any measure imaginable. They have never completely collapsed as a civilization in 5000 years and everyone else has. Before 1500 A.D. they needed very little of anything from any other nation and composed 30%+ of world economy for 2000 years monopolizing silk, tea, natural gas, and more. Look at all the stuff they invented throughout history a millennium before Europe. The list is much smaller for Europeans.
NO . yours is a wild exaggeration ; China was defeated , broken-up & over run in that 5,000 years.
From the Arabs to the Mongols to times of civil war and implosion - there was no real continuity.
Before 1644 AD they had no means to Sail to the other side of the Globe ; whether by Navigation or Ships capable of such a Journey. They never even had the Metallurgy to make powerful Cannons.
European Ships were more sea-worthy and capable of Sailing to China (as they did) however, the Chinese never reached European Waters until more recent Centuries.!. As to the list of Chinese inventions prior to 1644 ; Europe overall , would exceed China by at least ten fold.
此人乃战略忽悠局最大的敌人！
飞龙在天 还记得曹操杀匈奴使者的故事吗？
不要用战忽局几个字掩盖自己的无知了。多读书。
Qing Wang ... it is all meme bruh
Qing Wang 汝母犹存？
所以，现在中国经济状态和未来走向到底如何呢。
Still coming back here. Anyone here 2024.
Amazing understanding of China from a westerner. Better than many overseas Chinese.
He's a marxist communist.... not a westerner.
看了他的近期的采访翻到了这个8年前的演讲，这位教授对中国研究很深，很多观点非常犀利。竟然还是英国共产党人。
友军。
Oslatast H 巴铁翻车。
不能留
Oslatast H 他跟张维为教授混久了！
原来是同志哈哈哈
太有远见了，6年前
And this was 10 years ago
Today, 10 years after this speech, Martin Jacques should rectify many of his statements about China.