16 - Bonnie Dundee

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  • čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
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    Taken From 'The Lads Among Heather Vol 1' DVD Which Can Be Bought From The Official Website.

Komentáře • 117

  • @3tangle3
    @3tangle3 Před 15 lety +31

    Keep these songs alive, not for the message though its good but for its our heritage and a bloody good song!

  • @pemacal57
    @pemacal57 Před měsícem

    Sadness engulfs me...memories of Sir Walter Scott's poem, even John Graham himself…Lord Claverhouse…a warrior , a Knight, an Scottish nobleman…loyal to his true and law King…winner at Killikrankie….killed in combat by his Scottish blood brothers…not by cruel Englishmen….
    It is one of my favourites old folk Scottish tunes and songs…..

  • @jennistrom9271
    @jennistrom9271 Před 2 lety +7

    Have just discovered Ronnie and the Corrie's . They give me joy

  • @HyacinthFl0wer
    @HyacinthFl0wer Před rokem +4

    My dad used to walk about with me (a baby) in his arms and sing this. He used to sing me to sleep. It is a long long standing memory.

  • @Chewy7575
    @Chewy7575 Před 15 lety +10

    Superb, as they always were. RIP Roy.

  • @kawapilot
    @kawapilot Před 10 lety +26

    Bonnie Dundees sword is on display in killiecrankie...He Fell for the right reason, and may I add...shame on those that voted no and soiled the bravery of those that forged a proud nation..

    • @aileenlightbody91
      @aileenlightbody91 Před 7 lety +1

      The Corries did a lot to promote Scottish independence through their songs long before anyone thought of a referendum. Shame they weren't still around in 2014.

    • @RichardSmith-ew3xz
      @RichardSmith-ew3xz Před 4 lety +2

      John Graham of Claverhouse would be appalled at what has befallen his native Dundee... The highest drug deaths in Europe....but hey, we have a new museum now, that will fix that right up.

    • @kennyrowat9838
      @kennyrowat9838 Před 3 lety

      Lads, scotland was a bankrupt country, famine sweeping the land, sectarian violence and divides at every level in Bonnie Dundees days. Before Scotland can even begin to try to become its own country again it needs a period of peace and reconciliation which has never happened since then. We are still a bitterly divided country on the brink of bankruptcy 300 odd years on.

  • @abrhamgebeyehu933
    @abrhamgebeyehu933 Před 4 lety +14

    Tae the Lords o' convention 'twas Claverhouse spoke
    E'er the King's Crown go down there are crowns to be broke
    So each caviler who loves honor and me
    Let him follow the bonnets o' Bonnie Dundee
    Come fill up my cup, come fill up can
    Come saddle my horses and call out my men
    Unhook the West Port and let us gae free
    For it's up with the bonnets o' Bonnie Dundee
    Dundee he is mounted and rides up the street
    The bells tae ring backwards, the drums they are beat
    But the provost douce man says, 'Just let it be.'
    For the toon is well rid o' that devil Dundee
    There are hills beyond Pentland and lands beyond Forth
    Be there lords in the south, there are chiefs in the north
    There are brave downie wassles three thousand times three
    Cry hey for the bonnets o' Bonnie Dundee
    Then awa tae the hill to the lea and the rocks
    Ere I own a usurper I'll couch with the fox
    So tremble false whigs in the midst of yer glee
    For you've no seen the last of my bonnets and me

    • @murdochmclennan3510
      @murdochmclennan3510 Před 4 lety +2

      abrham gebeyehu: In the 2nd line of the 2nd stanza, it's "the drums they are beat". In the 3rd line of the same stanza, it's "For the toon is well rid". The last line of the 3rd stanza begins, "Who'll cry". Finally, in the last stanza, "lea" is the correct spelling; also, it's "I'll couch with the fox"; and the 3rd line reads "So tremble false whigs".

  • @JBurdoo
    @JBurdoo Před 16 lety +2

    This was the first version I learned as a child -- My dad still has the LP this was recorded on. Memories...

  • @bzzzz1314
    @bzzzz1314 Před 15 lety +5

    Magic, absolutely brilliant!

  • @garretfox7807
    @garretfox7807 Před 8 měsíci

    I've sung a couple of their songs in bars, always a great reaction. Timeless music!

  • @charlesrogers822
    @charlesrogers822 Před 5 lety +10

    I met the Devil and Dundee on the banks 'o Killiecrankie!

  • @NorthernSeaShore
    @NorthernSeaShore Před 12 lety +13

    It is curious indeed how lowlanders make the best commanders of highland armies ... perhaps it is because no highland chief will take orders from another highlander, but a lowlander can just about get away with it ... if he has sufficient military prowess, personality and tact!

  • @Sipatbana
    @Sipatbana Před 15 lety +9

    Always have liked the Corries But as an Australian with a Scottish Clan Surname what can I say. The Blood is STRONG in my family

    • @carloshannon8346
      @carloshannon8346 Před rokem

      But was your family Jacobites or Covenanters? Alot of American, Australian, NZ descendants happily sing these Jacobite songs when their ancestors were persecuted and fought against them

  • @kldudmp
    @kldudmp Před 15 lety +2

    SCOTLAND!!! great song! love this one!

  • @randybyrne4865
    @randybyrne4865 Před 3 lety +1

    Love this version and also love by friends, The Brigadoons.

  • @johan0066
    @johan0066 Před 14 lety +1

    They are the best, thank you.

  • @LouiseOC1
    @LouiseOC1 Před 15 lety +2

    Great song, thanks for posting it.

  • @TheDustysix
    @TheDustysix Před 2 lety

    Added to my Yiddish Playlist.

  • @murdochmclennan3510
    @murdochmclennan3510 Před 3 lety +3

    The people who dislike this song must not believe that Dundee was 'bonnie'.

    • @Smudgegs
      @Smudgegs Před rokem

      Bloody Claverhouse or Bonnie Dundee, discuss (as the history teachers would say 😉 ) 😁

  • @davelister1
    @davelister1 Před 9 lety +1

    shout ya bonnie dundee !!

  • @NorthernSeaShore
    @NorthernSeaShore Před 11 lety +4

    You do realize that the Covenanters were responsible for inventing the battle cry "Jesus and no quarter" in one of their battles with Montrose. Fortunately, although they greatly outnumbered him, they did not win ... needless to say ... this being Montrose we are talking about :-)

  • @nacho1560
    @nacho1560 Před 15 lety +2

    He's my greatest historical hero, witchhunter. Maybe because I'm from Dundee and was born close to the area called Claverhouse. The owned a house called Mains Castle which has been rebuilt. He also owned the lands there.
    It's a shame his tomb in St Brides Kirk close to Killiecrankie has not been looked after and is falling to bits.
    We don't look after our heroes very well in Scotland.

  • @BillDFC
    @BillDFC Před 14 lety +4

    Only two Lowlanders really managed to inspire Highlanders and both were Grahams.
    John Graham and James Graham (Montrose).

  • @Lincoln5string
    @Lincoln5string Před 13 lety

    Ditto McGrenzer. Enjoyed this. First I heard of this tune was Richard Thompson's instrumental on his album Reel Time. That's one rockin version - Thompson's.

  • @Gallowgate
    @Gallowgate Před 11 lety

    How the winter nights must fly...

  • @michaelriley8476
    @michaelriley8476 Před 6 lety +1

    That goes along wi' a dundee history massive cover up

    • @RichardSmith-ew3xz
      @RichardSmith-ew3xz Před 4 lety

      We have the V and A now Michael, so all is good. Just what the city with the highest drug deaths in Europe needed, a museum!!! That will fix that right up.

  • @Ledrummer
    @Ledrummer Před 9 měsíci

    The magnitude of the tone of their voice is astonishing 😮

  • @gillmcgann179
    @gillmcgann179 Před rokem

    I'm a dundonian yayy

  • @chicken69075
    @chicken69075 Před 3 lety

    I'm always sing this when I've had one to many. Now my neighbours know the words. Haha

  • @gaconnochie
    @gaconnochie Před 12 lety

    Both were being discussed. Traumara suggested Claverhouse was emulating Montrose

  • @NorthernSeaShore
    @NorthernSeaShore Před 12 lety +2

    Great music!
    FYI: John Graham of Claverhouse was called "Bloody Clavers" after his death by his enemies. He did not persecute anyone. He was a remarkably able and just commander ... which probably inspired more bitterness in his enemies than any of the invented injustices could ever have done. Sir Walter Scott never bothered to find out the truth when he wrote this song.

    • @murdochmclennan3510
      @murdochmclennan3510 Před 4 lety +1

      Andrea Prinsloo: Sir Walter Scott was ambivalent about Claverhouse. If you read the entire poem from which this clip was taken you can see what I mean.

    • @Tarhunna
      @Tarhunna Před 2 lety

      A man not fit to tie Ritchie Cameron's shoe.

  • @usops88
    @usops88 Před 11 lety

    support from America. we're trying to keep our right's here

  • @BillDFC
    @BillDFC Před 14 lety

    Hector Nicol kent the right words.....Penman,Cousin and Alan Gilzean...

  • @WootTootZoot
    @WootTootZoot Před 6 lety

    I was riding the ferry back from Normandy D Day events several years ago. There was a group of men from the old KOSB singing All The Blue Bonnets. I asked if they ever sang Bonny Dundee. One chap sad, "ach no, he was a fooking traitor".

  • @3tangle3
    @3tangle3 Před 13 lety

    even though he 'reputedly saved' will oranges life he was one of the few scots nobles to remain loyal to james II when Orange man willy landed....adding another load of bother to ireland ;)

  • @gaconnochie
    @gaconnochie Před 12 lety

    @TheTraumarama2 Montrose was a Covenanter who originally opposed the king's attempt at invading Scotland. He then swapped sides and himself tried unsuccesfully to organise an English invasion of Scotland; then joined up with a mostly Irish invasion of Scotland and was involved in letting the Irish massacre many of the citizens of Aberdeen; then after being defeated by the returning Scottish govt army he later invaded Scotland for a third time this time using Scandinavian troops after which he

  • @GreatScot007
    @GreatScot007 Před 15 lety +1

    lang mi yir lum reek abodee

  • @rondykeman5154
    @rondykeman5154 Před 12 lety +2

    Some of the comments seem to be confusing Montrose with Claverhouse. Both Grahams but 2 different people.

  • @DundeeFC1893
    @DundeeFC1893 Před 11 lety

    Goodman !!

  • @robsargent4
    @robsargent4 Před 11 lety

    Very true, therein lies the rub.

  • @NorthernSeaShore
    @NorthernSeaShore Před 11 lety +7

    Actually, come to think of it, wasn't John Dalrymple, Masters of Stair, at least partially responsible for Glencoe? And wasn't he violently anti-Claverhouse and didn't he come from a family of ardent Covenanters?...

    • @murdochmclennan3510
      @murdochmclennan3510 Před 2 lety +2

      Andrew Prinsloo: Yes, Dalrymple was partly responsible for the massacre at Glencoe.

  • @robsargent4
    @robsargent4 Před 11 lety +3

    To be fair if you were attacked by dragoons under his command when you were only trying to listen to a man preaching what you believed to be the word of God then you probably wouldn't have much fondness for Claverhouse either, even if he privately advocated leniency towards the Covenanters & married a Covenanter. If soldiers were ordered by the government to prevent people from worshipping a particular way today, you probably wouldn't be very sympathetic to the soldiers carrying out the orders.

    • @grassic
      @grassic Před 4 lety

      Agreed, but it wasn't today, that's the way things were then.

  • @MUCKER1314
    @MUCKER1314 Před 14 lety

    @3tangle3 WELL SAID !!

  • @robsargent4
    @robsargent4 Před 11 lety +1

    Quite possibly. There were bad eggs on all sides as far as I can tell. Sorry, some of my earlier comments might be a little convoluted, but hopefully the meaning's still clear enough. I think we actually agree on a fair bit.

  • @joejohnstone4306
    @joejohnstone4306 Před 10 lety +5

    come on scotland VOTE YES SAY NO TO WESTMINSTER SPEW VOTE YES YES YES

  • @poneil69
    @poneil69 Před 15 lety

    The defeat of the Orange in 1689,if only the same a year later.Saor Alba

  • @incongra
    @incongra Před 17 lety

    "Bloody Clavers" was interesting but he did persecute the covenanters during the killing times. Whether he committed the atrocities ascribed to him has never been proven. All you can say about him, was that he WAS loyal to his king. But then it was a catholic king. So it is a good song, nothing more.

  • @RocaDeearCenjar
    @RocaDeearCenjar Před 13 lety +1

    Or are they saying "saddle?"

  • @robsargent4
    @robsargent4 Před 11 lety

    in modern Scotland, but you have to admit that part of the reason the later Stuarts didn't like them was because they preferred Anglicanism (where they could appoint Bishops to run the church the way the King wanted) or Catholicism Now the Presbyterians, who had come to the conclusion that Episcopalianism was no longer acceptable. This was the root of the struggle more than anything else. The method of church governance, in other words, power. In many ways, neither side was really any more right

  • @robsargent4
    @robsargent4 Před 11 lety

    But the reason what the Covenanters were doing was illegal (principally gathering round a man who told them about his view on life based on this book he read) was that various Kings had made it illegal to preach if you were not specially-approved by him & anyone who listened to a preacher not approved by him was also breaking the law. Hence admittedly rather fiery evangelical preachers & congregations were turned into outlaws who no longer felt loyal to the King, all because of this law.

  • @robsargent4
    @robsargent4 Před 11 lety +1

    Well, he did actually participate in the putting down of the Covenanters, as any soldier loyal to Charles II & later James VI & II would do. If he hadn't then he would have been disobeying orders & disobeying orders from the Kings would be treason. Mind you, I'm sure the Campbell's at Glencoe gave the same excuse (I was only following orders). But you're right in that he was far more moderate & fair than many of his contemporaries, as far as I can tell.

  • @gaconnochie
    @gaconnochie Před 12 lety +1

    @TheTraumarama2 aye on looking over my posts I can be a bit of a grump and pain in the arse at times. sorry about that! Just about all our historical figure have their bad sides as well as good.

  • @NorthernSeaShore
    @NorthernSeaShore Před 12 lety

    James Graham, Marquis of Montrose did not change sides! He was always loyal to Charles I. He did sign a petition for religious freedom and tolerance, and object to certain unjust legislation, but as soon as those around him turned anti-monarchy, he objected and left. In my opinion, he was Scotland's greatest hero ... greater even than the Bruce.

    • @murdochmclennan3510
      @murdochmclennan3510 Před 5 lety +1

      Andrea Prinsloo: The song is about JOHN Graham of Claverhouse, Viscount Dundee--not JAMES Graham, Marquis of Montrose.

  • @captaincondor2010
    @captaincondor2010 Před 11 lety

    how poetic

  • @poneil69
    @poneil69 Před 16 lety +1

    Graham rule.

  • @erracht
    @erracht Před 15 lety

    That's a bonnie wee lassie at 1:10.

  • @gillmcgann179
    @gillmcgann179 Před rokem

    An I live in England taking their money ...

  • @robsargent4
    @robsargent4 Před 11 lety

    than the other.

  • @poneil69
    @poneil69 Před 17 lety

    1689 defeated William of Orange.

  • @ScotsLyon
    @ScotsLyon Před 15 lety

    As we say in french.
    longtemps peut votre fumée de cheminée

  • @gaconnochie
    @gaconnochie Před 12 lety

    @anniers7 "Disunion is simply a means for local politicians to expand their influence and job opportunities" I think if you regard Scottish Parliamentarians as local politicians then you're way off the mark as far as most Scots, even unionist Scots, would see it. You may love Scotland but do you understand it? It could equally be said that Scottish Westminster MPs want to maintain their status.

  • @kevinmurphy5222
    @kevinmurphy5222 Před 10 lety +3

    FREEDOM BECKONS

  • @gaconnochie
    @gaconnochie Před 12 lety

    was caught and executed but the Scots. Montrose did fall back in line with the king again but that seems to be as much to do with not being able to live with his Covenanting allies than falling back in love with a despotic monarchy. Montrose distrusted Campbell of Argyl suspecting him off using the Covenanting movement for his own ends. That is he didn't want a King Campbell. As far as I can see they were all three (Charles I, Montrose, Argyl) a disaster for the ordinary people of Scotland

  • @madbulgarian
    @madbulgarian Před 11 lety

    Don't we all. I suspect you could run on a ticket for Yorkshire independence, though I think we're better off together.

  • @moragmacgregor6792
    @moragmacgregor6792 Před 6 lety

    So is this the other side of Killiecrankie or no?

  • @rifleman1122
    @rifleman1122 Před 14 lety

    the guy directly behind them looks like he doesn't want to be there at all.

  • @scotcat52E
    @scotcat52E Před 16 lety +1

    anyone here actually know what this is about lol????

    • @murdochmclennan3510
      @murdochmclennan3510 Před 6 lety +1

      It commemorates the life & death of John Graham of Claverhouse, who rallied Scottish Highlanders in order to fight and defeat Hugh MacKay at the battle of Killiecrankie in 1689. Claverhouse was fatally wounded; MacKay died 3 years later, in 1682. Claverhouse was "Bloody Clavers" to his opponents; he was "Bonnie Dundee" to his supporters.

  • @NorthernSeaShore
    @NorthernSeaShore Před 11 lety +1

    Very convoluted! - but I think I follow. I was not defending either of the Kings. One must judge them against the backdrop of their own time, of course, but still. The immediate fault lay with Charles I (such an idiot!, being led around by his catholic zealot of a wife). Both his successors had to deal with the problem he created. I rather think Montrose had it right: you sign a petition to the King to tell him that he is behaving badly, but you still defend him against his enemies.

  • @robsargent4
    @robsargent4 Před 11 lety

    I think even the English (well, all except the elite) are starting to agree with you now.

  • @michaelriley8476
    @michaelriley8476 Před 6 lety

    His sord belongs in dundee if it wasnae for the war he'd have came hame with his troops buried up there cause couldnae get hame

  • @NorthernSeaShore
    @NorthernSeaShore Před 11 lety +2

    In my opinion, it was really James VI and I who was to blame, though … along with Mary Queen of Scots for marrying Darnley in the first place ... especially to ensure the union of the crowns. The King of Scots should never have moved his court to London! He just could not rule by proxy from 300 miles away. They all set more store by the English crown than the Scottish one ... even Bonny Prince Charlie … therein lay the heart of the problem!

  • @NorthernSeaShore
    @NorthernSeaShore Před 11 lety +2

    Indeed he would have put down the Covenanters. But, since these seem to have been a rather dangerous, armed mob of religious zealots, I am not sure I feel this to be a blight upon his character! I do sympathize with your views on religious freedom, but I would call this "keeping the peace" or "riot control". My point was that there were none of the brutalities against innocents often attributed to him. I greatly object to the comparisons with Glencoe (and with Nuremburg)!

  • @gaconnochie
    @gaconnochie Před 13 lety

    @3tangle3 Mind to be fair Claverhouse didn't have much choice but stay loyal to James VII & II. As he was probably the chief henchman during the Killing Times and the persecution of the Presbyterian Covenanters then he would probably have been a marked man as Presbyterian control was reinstated in Scotland and those who had fled persecution returned. AFAIK Walter Scott invented the nickname Bonnie Dundee at a much later date but he was known as Bluidy Clavers in the south in his own time :-)

    • @johnmelvin5804
      @johnmelvin5804 Před 5 lety +1

      The covenanters were at times murderous thugs. But that was par for the course when you wound up the rabble.

  • @gaconnochie
    @gaconnochie Před 12 lety

    @TheTraumarama2 When James lost his English power base and the Scottish parliament declared him a traitor and stripped him off his throne Graham refused to accept the decision so went off to raise an army. Could be viewed as principle but equally could be viewed as having no choice. Because he had been chief henchman during the Killing Times he was undoubtedly a marked man and would probably have been for the rope. Sorry but he is glamourised.

  • @gailforce
    @gailforce Před 16 lety

    Get a grip, get a life, get over the hate.

  • @robsargent4
    @robsargent4 Před 11 lety

    He's the most appealing character I've come across from that period as well. Sadly, however, Charles II was not as loyal to the Great Montrose as Montrose had been to him & his father, although I'm sure Charles II felt he had no choice & was just dealing with the political reality that confronted him.

    • @murdochmclennan3510
      @murdochmclennan3510 Před 5 lety +1

      robsargent4: The song is not about Montrose; it's about Claverhouse.

    • @alexwilliamson1486
      @alexwilliamson1486 Před 5 lety +1

      Murdoch McLennan a very common mistake many people do! Nothing to do with Montrose..

  • @gaconnochie
    @gaconnochie Před 12 lety

    @TheTraumarama "A Graham never forgets." Seemingly Bluidy Clavers wished he could forget some of the atrocities he carried out against civilians during the religious persecution of Presbyterians. It supposedly kept him from sleeping soundly. Winning one battle in which you manage to get yourself killed doesn't make up for crimes against humanity. Both sides were thugs and bigots. We shouldn't over glamourise it!

  • @BillDFC
    @BillDFC Před 15 lety

    Agreed....and I'm a presbyterian!
    Scotland's liberty is more important.

  • @RocaDeearCenjar
    @RocaDeearCenjar Před 13 lety

    Did they just say "Come sodom my horses?"

  • @sandex3000
    @sandex3000 Před 17 lety

    Ha ha beatityatube, one can tell that you're a gadgy ned! A well, it was just a joke!

  • @anniers7
    @anniers7 Před 12 lety

    Disunion is simply a means for local politicians to expand their influence and job opportunities. As an American who loves Scotland, I implore you good people to not be taken in by this. The United Kingdom is stronger United.

  • @GMMReviews
    @GMMReviews Před 13 lety

    Bonnie Dundee? HAHAHAHAHAH!?!?! Couldn't be more wrong :P