Mixing KNOCKED LOOSE drums w/ Will Putney
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- čas přidán 5. 01. 2020
- Will Putney mixes the drums in "Mistakes Like Fractures" by Knocked Loose from their 2019 album "A Different Shade Of Blue"
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the raw drums sounded insanely good going in. real drums recorded well in metal make such a difference its crazy
These were not raw, those sounds are processed in real time by analog gear. Thats why it sounds so punchy already without any plugins.
@@blacksaona Plus he adds a sample on top which i prefer not to do because everyone else is doing that nowadays...
@@RobKingRC why not!?
@@blacksaona Nothing wrong with it. I just like to push myself to get better at mixing drums without samples. Not because of Glenn fricker lol
@@RobKingRC Ohh well, thats a good point, but i think it depends of how are the drums played and recorded. Most great albums use samples of the same drum session. (When you tell the drummer to hit just the snare, kick, toms independently, so you can actually get the whole sustain of each one and compress it),
THERE IS NO WAY to get the most sustain of a snare in a room mic without having it being masked from other instruments (like cymbals).
A snare sounds good alone, but when is all together, its gone. So autosampling it is a good way to get the most of your sounds without "cheating" cuz ur using real drum of the same drum session.
The kick man, everything is on point, but that classic Will Putney kick drum is just ear candy
Will is an insane producer / mixing engineer. My biggest inspiration with Henrik Udd
This is fucking awesome. Knocked Loose reinvigorated an old love for music that I thought long forgotten, and the inside look at how it's made is amazing.
I just listened to "Necessary Death" by END and I had to know who mixed it. It was absolutely amazing! 4 minutes in, I already have more knowledge that will improve my own mixes.
He also played guitar on it. A legend living among us
Unreal how good his drum captures are. Source tone is everything.
Beaut, just heard the album today, had to come looking. Great job
Will, you are the man! Thanks for doing this. This is the first time I've heard of "key spikes" (spelling?) would love a short tutorial on that with best practices.
easiest way to do them is to duplicate the original track and use the slate trigger gate with almost no sustain and hold time. another way to do that would be recording triggers on the shells.
There’s a video of Machine mixing lamb of god on URM where he shows the key spikes. I’d assume they’d be fairly similar
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Did Will produce and mix the drums on Gojira's Magma album?
That juicy kick sound alone gives me goosebumps.
According to Wikipedia Will did additional engineering and Johann Meyer/Joe Duplantier did the mixing.
he only did vocal engineering if I'm not mistaken
Damn ! I wish I had the sound of this room. I recently moved and my new house is basically a parking garage and my drums get washy. definitely gonna be trying to sound treat for the time being. Great video!!!
Such a great drummer. Perfectly in time yet also pushing a wall of energy at all times
May just have to sign up, then go back to get this one. Will is the man! Anyone know how much to purchase previous months?
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dude is still using logic 9. gimme a high five!
made me feel pretty good that incredible music is made on old software. Its not the gear. Its the ear
@@AndrewBarrMusic Of course, if the software was used to make great sounding records in the past there's no reason why it can't be used to make great records in the present.
@@AndrewBarrMusic most of my fav records were done on like protools 7.4 lol
I really don't understand all the routing and everything he does with the drums, is there any way to learn this step by step and understand the whole bus thing and what goes where and why? sorry for the noob kinda question, but I´ve always wanted to understand this
Would like to know the story behind Will's Apple tattoo haha
How do you create the spikes? Logic isn't great at converting audio to midi, and retaining the time.
basically those are just extremely gated and compressed sounds from direct mics, which then you're sidechaining to gate
What is the "superior" plugin he's talking abt? Also, is he currently mixing in logic 9? Just curious
what software are you using
Everyone is saying Logic 9
What is that 240p footage at 10:32 lol
Will Pitney snare >
damn! How old is his Logic??!!
Logic 9, baby!
@@URMAcademy Respect! But Why not the latest one?
The nerds have taken over metal thats why it sounds so perfect as pretty as and clean as pop dude has 8real mics and 40 samples yuk
how did he make logic look like that ?
He is using Logic 9
dude still uses old school logic HAHA. SKILLZ
It's not a huge leap.
Their drummer looks like robin leijon lol
I wouldn't put any samples on such awesome sounding real drums, they don't need it.
Awesome result nonetheless.
@ryanshreevedrums definetely, this was flawlessly executed, very subtle.
@ryanshreevedrums man, am I the only one who hates the way his drums sound in a mix? Way too thin and clicky/snappy.
@@lobster272 I think it fits the song, but yeah would be cool if they were a little less thin
@@lobster272 listen to evergreen from after the burial, the drum sound is huge compared to human target from thy art is murder
I am just astounded by how old this version of logic is he uses. honestly looks more usable than today's version in many ways haha
Why not logic 10
Knocked Loose are fuckin sick, especially their early shit. I love hearing a real punk band, that kind of beatdown flavour just doesn't sound as heavy overproduced.
4 distressors hahaha , and I can't afford 1
Although samples are a quick fix and sound good, I prefer to hone my craft of mixing drums without any samples because everyone is using them and all drums are starting to sound the same.
The real mics sounded way better without the samples, IMO.
I agree but they’ll get buried in the guitars without em
@@UncleChuzz Not if you eq them to cut though and throw on a bus compressor. Watch any of the vids on mixing drums by Spectre Sound Studios. No samples used.
aragorn767 I’m very familiar with Glenn’s work, but eh, Will’s system works so who really cares.
At the end of the day , whose works sound Best ? Will or glenn's? Glenn's mixes suck dick and Will mixes are just amazing, i give a rat's ass if he uses samples or not
@@aragorn767 Lol Glenn fricker sucks.
Logic :(
Samples on a kick sound too machine like.
@Brent Woodard that makes no sense.
I think the longstanding argument is it helps cut through the mix. Double bass tends to get muddy if I remember correctly at certain speed?
@Brent Woodard my bad misunderstood you.
@@SuperAlfonsoBros yeah I get that. But people tend to overdo it with the triggered sound verse the acoustic. I mean , I get blending. But when it's too artificial , it's too machine like. And then you got guys who turn the sensitivity up so much on the trigger , they could pull these amazing patterns of with a feather. Which in my opinion, is lame.
Never use one shot samples on kick you need to have different velocities in the samples to ACCENTUATE the drummer’s feel ... snare is fine since most punk drummers only know how to hit 2 and 4 lol
You don't know much about drummers. Lol
You really tried to tell this guy how to mix drums? 😂🤡
why would u want your toms to sound like folger's coffee cans? its metal man .... I don't get it .. this guy is mega talented, but its girl scout cookies when we need steak. metal toms should sound like a harley davidson starting up.
Samples? And I'm out....
Kevin 👋🏼
Lol I'm pretty sure most music you listen to has samples in it.
@@GreatBurningNullifier relax, he's just a Glenn Fricker fanboy
Or... samples just suck, using someone else's recoding of real drums becoase you can't mic real drums properly and get a player. That is what this is. Pantera.. no samples.
@@morbidmanmusic pantera is literally full of drum sample lol.
Ugh. Samples🙄
Your favorite albums probably have samples all over them.
I was pretty disappointed when I heard the first Rage album used snare samples. No way Tool would.
The method shouldn't matter as long as the end product gets the job done.
Kyle Ganger can i just copy and paste someone elses work and call it mine? Lol
Adam Vaughn that is the most ridiculous assertion I’ve ever read.