This somewhat overblown but still breathtaking exciting series of torchwood will stay with me forever. yes you can say its too long, its lost its roots etc, but there's a sheer epicness to the whole thing that I don't think can be denied.
There are three seasons set in Cardiff/ London. It's a spin off of Doctor Who and Russel T Davies made the fourth season to reboot the show for a wider audience with a production company STARZ
I just started watching miracle day for the first time. I’ve only watched one episode so far but I think it’s ok. The problem is that it follows children of earth which was an incredible story. If miracle day had come first I think more people would like it but they were expecting children of earth standards which are near impossible to fulfil
I am very happy that their is a new series of Torchwood, but I for some reason I am sad that it's set in the US. Plus, I miss all Tosh, Owen and Ianto.
Children of Earth did that far far better than MD attempted to. MD had awful characters, was far too long, was far too american, had stupid plot with threads that went nowhere, a completely unconvincing ending, a resolution that flew in the face of established canon, and far too much thriller. If you want something 'political', that 'dared to raise social questions', watch Children of Earth, which trounced Miracle Day in pretty much every conceivable way.
Actually, one of the biggest reasons people hated Miracle day was to do with its Americanisation, not politics. It took everything that made it different and kind of went "nah.. we'll change all that". It didn't feel like "Torchwood" any more.. it felt like some odd Torchwood/CSI-something crossover.. and the changes just destroyed it for many people. This concept could have worked well. I loved the premise.. but the BBC never should have sold it, and they never should have let it become what it became.
This series looks really good, watched the first episode last night and was impressed. I'll be looking out as to how they will keep the heart of 'Torchwood' Welsh and will also be looking forward of the American take on the series too.
I dont understand, people who didnt like it obviously dont remember 2 things: 1. Torchwood are suppose to investigate the paranormal, which could include anything, whether its alien or not. Miracle Day was something non-alien and paranormal, and was very very great! 2. It's a Doctor Who spinoff remember? And the thing about Doctor Who, is that its always about change, so why not Torchwood change a little with their change of setting and atmosphere?
So is this a new season from the previous torchwood show? Or is this like starting something new? I dont wunna wait a week for the next episode.. ITS TOO GOOD
@@oliversales1180 no that's just Gwen being over dramatic the doctor was probably aware but couldn't interfere due to it probably being a fix point or maybe because he was too busy saving another planet
CoE was probably a fixed point in time. It brought Jack "back down to Earth" so to speak, and maybe if that didn't happen, he would have continued to be too cocky, and certain problems could have arisen in the future.
@appleboxYT Russel T Davies wrote this. He's British. There's a welsh, and John Barrowman is scottish. Go wiki it if you don't believe me. An american network just wanted to show it on their network, so it is a british program.
@maksurre yeah, torcheood is similar to doctor who but its mainly for older audiences unlike doctor who, it's basically a spin off with captain jack who was in doctor who
You haven't seen it? Broadcast in the United States on Starz on 8 July 2011, in Canada on Space on 9 July 2011, and in the United Kingdom on BBC One on 14 July 2011
To an extent, yes, it would have been amazing! But then you have to think of all the other things that they would have had to include in it just to fit them back - plus Russel said that he's actually really happy how the fans reacted to the deaths of those three characters
@lolpauve yes......and after 4 years they instantly set it in america and it randomly has to be on in america first, even though its british. i never mentioned anything about how long the show has been running for.
@TheJoshider Dude, Starz is contributing most of the budget for Miracle Day, so I think it is fair enough that they get to air it first, as without them we likely wouldn't be getting a new series.
@got5432 According to Russell T. Davies, he still considers Torchwood to be in the Doctor Who universe. BBC and Russell (as well as Judy Gardner) are still involved, so I'm not too worried about it being "Americanized", and it will still be partly filmed in Wales.
@nccvoyager2 They can't die, but that doesn't mean they can't feel pain. Here's a bit of a spoiler for the series so far: They don't heal. They do, but not if it's something the human body can't actually heal from. They're not indestructible, merely undying.
Partially correct. The first series was jointly financed by BBC and Canadian Brodcasting Corporation. The current series is jointly financed by BBC and Starz Entertainment.
@evilfangs Maybe, though I doubt it. As the Doc put it, thanks to Rose, he's a "fact of the universe, and can't ever die". Kinda didn't get that fact of the universe part, but you raise a good point, maybe what happened to these people is somewhat happened to Jack. We'll know more as the series goes on.
It's on Starz Originals but it's on the BBC next week. I think the Brits get a different version then the American release, it's longer or something I'm not sure exactly.
Yeah, that's because it is Captain Jack off Doctor who, it's a show that follows him in the parts where he isn't in Doctor who and is working for Torchwood. Alot of TV shows do it when a big character (but not the main one) leaves the show.
I agree it may have been a mistake to "Americanize" it as you're saying, but in order to keep the series on, it was necessary to bring it here. At least that allowed for a season 4. I wish I had been able to see it. Have to see if it can be found at the library to check out. Haven't found it in good quality for free online.
I know, the only thing about this series that slightly got me was how they sort of ignored the fact of Jack's immortality being apart of the spacetime vortex or something, cause I thought nothing would be able to cure him, and it basically happened, he became mortal, also with rex at the end, trust me, if RTD thinks he can get away of cancelling, especially at that cliffhanger, he is mistaken
i think John Barrowman summed it up saying "there wouldnt be a Torchwood now without the American Input"...i think that subsequently could mean Torchwood is effectively on life support which is really sad but hey, we still have Children of Earth
People are slating this series but i thought it was great. Aloy of action, dialogue and you kept watching because you wanted to see how Miracle Day came about. The final episode was brilliant with suspense and sacrafice. And the revelatiion with Rex and the very end... just wow
@SuMBuDDe42oE Torchwood is a spinoff series of Doctor Who created by Russell T Davies, former Doctor Who witter. After he left he decided America was where he was going to go, and thus Torchwood: miracle day was born. It's just the 4th season set in America
I agree. If they'd just brought new characters to the original Torchwood base, no doubt everyone would still be complaining. I thought this was one of the most exciting series, even though it was far-fetched.
@Superultimateay they aren't claiming that it is. It's just that any show isn't a remake or whatever is shown as an original program. In no way is Starz claiming that they came up with it. If you're gonna freak out at least research things first.
That's uncalled for, I'm part american part scottish and I must say, Miracle Day was very well done, yes there were no aliens but Torchwood wasn't all about aliens, like Jack says, Torchwood investigates the alien AND paranormal, and no one dying sure is something paranormal. I do agree with one thing, if they do another series, then they should go back to Britain, but it wouldnt be about the rift anymore since it was closed when the doctor fixed the cracks in time
@Seafret1412 and if u remember jack does find it and trys escaping from the CIA area but then gets shot so it might not be FULLY like the old torchwood but atleast it does show what torchwood does but its a good series all in all
@Ghosthand do you really want to know? or would you rather go and watch??? XD anyways, if you do [spoilers ahead] ianto died of gas (I cried, he was my fave character), Owen died in a nuclear reactor meltdown... and Tosh died few moments after that....
@reecetomm Blame it on the fans. Lots of people stopped watching the show with Ianto's death in Children of Earth. Russell wasn't even sure they had enough of a fanbase after that to get the BBC to bring it back on their own.
@revesvans Torchwood is a TV show, it was a spin-off from Doctor Who back in ..2006 I think? It was a good show, you should watch it if you like Doctor Who.
@danimayb I just finished watching S4E2 and I have to say that it is amazing. My favorite actor so far is Eve Myles (Gwen Cooper) whose maternal no bullshit attitude really eclipses her American counterparts, including Jack. What is interesting is the fact that the British public have had three seasons of Torchwood to get used to, not to mention Doctor Who, whereas on this side of the pond we are practically getting it all at once. The yanks end up looking goofy!
@DCKingdom09 - You do realise that Russell T Davis is still making the show, right? There's nothing different apart from the location and the fact the US get it first
@KERKYRA199 Well, the 1996 movie was an attempt to bring back Doctor Who - on FOX. That was mostly American. Russell T Davies was involved with this, and I think he wrote two episodes. Fortunately, this is a continuation, not simply a US version of the show. (US copies of UK shows like - Coupling, All in the Family, Three's Company, The Office, Reggie) However, the UK copied the US Law and Order. One UK Law & Order episode I saw was a UK version of a US script.
They have made another season especially with that cliffhanger. Rex is immortal wow , just love this season better production. The story was great .had me hooked to the very end. Season 6 please with Rex.
@Sal0pe69 Yeah... and? Jack's been around for a few lifetimes, and I highly doubt that he hadn't learned, over time, to move on from his losses. Also, good job paying attention, since the death of his grandson, and Ianto were actually mentioned a few times (by Danes and Jack himself, respectively). No, I really don't expect Jack to linger on, especially after two years. If you do, you're kind of a fool.
I honestly really liked this season. The concept alone had me hooked for the whole season.
1:35 - "If you're the best England's got to offer, then God help you,"
"I'm Welsh,"
BAM!
This somewhat overblown but still breathtaking exciting series of torchwood will stay with me forever. yes you can say its too long, its lost its roots etc, but there's a sheer epicness to the whole thing that I don't think can be denied.
All I heard at the end was "I'm Welsh."
Miracle Day was not that bad.
That Welsh Guy if miracle day was just 5 episodes it would have been alright of still love it it just drags a bit
Maybe that, it makes no sense, the only great episode there is the seventh
To all You usa fans that have only seen this series...
Watch the other 3 from 1-3
You will laugh,cry and be heartbroken
other 3?
There are three seasons set in Cardiff/ London. It's a spin off of Doctor Who and Russel T Davies made the fourth season to reboot the show for a wider audience with a production company STARZ
I like how some Brits seem to think Americans are blind to British programming. I have thrived on it for eleven years now.
Torchwood outside the government beyond the police
"Who are you guys?"
*aims bazooka* "Torchwood."
YAOOO!!!!!
i love this season it is realy thrilling still don't get why people hate it
I just started watching miracle day for the first time. I’ve only watched one episode so far but I think it’s ok. The problem is that it follows children of earth which was an incredible story. If miracle day had come first I think more people would like it but they were expecting children of earth standards which are near impossible to fulfil
@@fear_cheetah2079 why is it impossible?
Well, not impossible. Just a bit unlikely.
The plot is great, but the acting is horrible. Jack and Gwen made this season watchable honestly
I am very happy that their is a new series of Torchwood, but I for some reason I am sad that it's set in the US. Plus, I miss all Tosh, Owen and Ianto.
Please give us series 5 with gwen, Jack, Rhys and Rex, set in Cardiff.
Those that hated Miracle Day probably hated the fact that it was too political, and it dared to raise social questions.
lol Children of Earth was much more political and everyone loved that
Children of Earth did that far far better than MD attempted to. MD had awful characters, was far too long, was far too american, had stupid plot with threads that went nowhere, a completely unconvincing ending, a resolution that flew in the face of established canon, and far too much thriller. If you want something 'political', that 'dared to raise social questions', watch Children of Earth, which trounced Miracle Day in pretty much every conceivable way.
+mrwho995 it was made in Hollywood remember
No, it was because it contradicts the 11th Doctor's interactions with Earth.
Actually, one of the biggest reasons people hated Miracle day was to do with its Americanisation, not politics. It took everything that made it different and kind of went "nah.. we'll change all that". It didn't feel like "Torchwood" any more.. it felt like some odd Torchwood/CSI-something crossover.. and the changes just destroyed it for many people. This concept could have worked well. I loved the premise.. but the BBC never should have sold it, and they never should have let it become what it became.
I need Torchwood series 5 OR Jack back on Doctor Who.
Big Finish, an audio company, have released Series 5 and are midway through Series 6.
2020, anybody?
This aged beautifully
@@timelordrock2954 LOVE BIG FINISH
Senan Collins SAME HERE! I’m binging a bunch of them, currently on FDA S7!
I want Ianto to come back!!!!! he and Jack we're cute together. its not the same anymore!!
WE WANT IANTO BACK!
Ianto is back on big Finish. There was even a recent story where Jack and Ianto are undercover as a married couple in a suburban neighbourhood
This series looks really good, watched the first episode last night and was impressed. I'll be looking out as to how they will keep the heart of 'Torchwood' Welsh and will also be looking forward of the American take on the series too.
I'm American, and I partially agree with you.
We don't ruin EVERYTHING...
but we really screwed this up.
*A starz original series*
...not quite
Ordered this a few days ago and once it comes in, I’m having a Torchwood marathon. Looking forward to it!
Hello Harkness, my old friend.
Well at least their back in Cardiff for series 5 and 6
I dont understand, people who didnt like it obviously dont remember 2 things:
1. Torchwood are suppose to investigate the paranormal, which could include anything, whether its alien or not. Miracle Day was something non-alien and paranormal, and was very very great!
2. It's a Doctor Who spinoff remember? And the thing about Doctor Who, is that its always about change, so why not Torchwood change a little with their change of setting and atmosphere?
Turns out aliens were actually behind it. Lol
It wasn't that bad. I got quite into it. Sure, Rex turning immortal was stupid, but as a whole I enjoyed it, even more than Children of Earth.
More than children of earth? Really?
Interesting notion. I remember the Dodge sheriff calling James Bond "that English spy" although Connery is Scottish & Brosnan is Irish.
So is this a new season from the previous torchwood show? Or is this like starting something new? I dont wunna wait a week for the next episode.. ITS TOO GOOD
Everyone says it's too American but all I see is a higher budget 😂
This was the problem with children of earth as well, the world wide threat surely would have made the doctor check it out.
The Jedi Order in children of the earth the mentioned that sometimes the doctor must turn from our planet in shame. That’s why he wasn’t there.
@@oliversales1180 no that's just Gwen being over dramatic the doctor was probably aware but couldn't interfere due to it probably being a fix point or maybe because he was too busy saving another planet
Halo Galaxy yeah, you might have a point there, it is very over dramatic
CoE was probably a fixed point in time. It brought Jack "back down to Earth" so to speak, and maybe if that didn't happen, he would have continued to be too cocky, and certain problems could have arisen in the future.
@appleboxYT Russel T Davies wrote this. He's British. There's a welsh, and John Barrowman is scottish. Go wiki it if you don't believe me. An american network just wanted to show it on their network, so it is a british program.
@maksurre yeah, torcheood is similar to doctor who but its mainly for older audiences unlike doctor who, it's basically a spin off with captain jack who was in doctor who
You haven't seen it? Broadcast in the United States on Starz on 8 July 2011, in Canada on Space on 9 July 2011, and in the United Kingdom on BBC One on 14 July 2011
To an extent, yes, it would have been amazing! But then you have to think of all the other things that they would have had to include in it just to fit them back - plus Russel said that he's actually really happy how the fans reacted to the deaths of those three characters
Loved that this season was also produced in the U.S.A.
@lolpauve yes......and after 4 years they instantly set it in america and it randomly has to be on in america first, even though its british. i never mentioned anything about how long the show has been running for.
All filmed in my Hometown of Cardiff. I'm proud to be Welsh.
@TheJoshider Dude, Starz is contributing most of the budget for Miracle Day, so I think it is fair enough that they get to air it first, as without them we likely wouldn't be getting a new series.
@got5432
According to Russell T. Davies, he still considers Torchwood to be in the Doctor Who universe. BBC and Russell (as well as Judy Gardner) are still involved, so I'm not too worried about it being "Americanized", and it will still be partly filmed in Wales.
@MissLaboe yes i prefered the old torchwood, but i am enjoying the american theme, but hopefully they will go back to the old base next series.
Britain deserves this first considering the fact it's a British program.
@nccvoyager2 They can't die, but that doesn't mean they can't feel pain.
Here's a bit of a spoiler for the series so far: They don't heal.
They do, but not if it's something the human body can't actually heal from. They're not indestructible, merely undying.
@xibizibi Actually Russell T. Davies (see the surname, very common in Wales) is Welsh (he's from Swansea).
"CIA"
"Yea, so what?"
1:08
Oh gwenie
Partially correct. The first series was jointly financed by BBC and Canadian Brodcasting Corporation. The current series is jointly financed by BBC and Starz Entertainment.
@evilfangs
Maybe, though I doubt it. As the Doc put it, thanks to Rose, he's a "fact of the universe, and can't ever die". Kinda didn't get that fact of the universe part, but you raise a good point, maybe what happened to these people is somewhat happened to Jack. We'll know more as the series goes on.
@YorkshireNerd But wouldn't you still FEEL the pain? You wouldn't die, but you'd still be in pain until you're numbed out.
It's on Starz Originals but it's on the BBC next week. I think the Brits get a different version then the American release, it's longer or something I'm not sure exactly.
This has gotta be the best season of this show, it just came to mind recently and given what's going on these days, I'm gonna watch it again!
@MrNinjaSpartan Correction Wales is Makes up UK or Britain.
@gamerguy263 Yes, you're right about John, I was talking about the Torchwood character :)
And now we know how the Face of Boe starts.
Sucks it's in America. I met Jack, Owen and Ianto while they were filming the wedding episode in Wales. Good times. Real Torchwood forever!
how did rory williams and amy pond and the doctor no know about this fucking shit
Because there were probably on a beach were the sand is made out of ruby
Because Moffatt acts like Torchwood doesn't exist
@05Paynee
its not stealing, its the same characters and Russel T Davies is making it (guy that made doctor who up to when David Tennant went)
Yeah, that's because it is Captain Jack off Doctor who, it's a show that follows him in the parts where he isn't in Doctor who and is working for Torchwood. Alot of TV shows do it when a big character (but not the main one) leaves the show.
There just happens to be a fountain right underneath the window that Jack and Esther jump out of.
I agree it may have been a mistake to "Americanize" it as you're saying, but in order to keep the series on, it was necessary to bring it here. At least that allowed for a season 4. I wish I had been able to see it. Have to see if it can be found at the library to check out. Haven't found it in good quality for free online.
It's on Starz which is an American broadcasting station. So that likely has something to do with it =/
If everyone on Earth stopped dying, you'd think the Doctor may have a tiny bit of interest?
I know, the only thing about this series that slightly got me was how they sort of ignored the fact of Jack's immortality being apart of the spacetime vortex or something, cause I thought nothing would be able to cure him, and it basically happened, he became mortal, also with rex at the end, trust me, if RTD thinks he can get away of cancelling, especially at that cliffhanger, he is mistaken
@Xenion02 I think he meant it's the fourth season of Torchwood. But there is another spin-off, the Sarah Jane Adventures.
@Seafret1412 Ya, I mean the entire time they are trying to figure out the families, maybe its something more?
i think John Barrowman summed it up saying "there wouldnt be a Torchwood now without the American Input"...i think that subsequently could mean Torchwood is effectively on life support which is really sad but hey, we still have Children of Earth
this is on tonight in uk, cant wait to watch it, it looks awesome
People are slating this series but i thought it was great. Aloy of action, dialogue and you kept watching because you wanted to see how Miracle Day came about. The final episode was brilliant with suspense and sacrafice. And the revelatiion with Rex and the very end... just wow
@chadishot No it's not, they were situated in England aswell.
Torchwood, one season, shut down... forgotten...
@SuMBuDDe42oE
Torchwood is a spinoff series of Doctor Who created by Russell T Davies, former Doctor Who witter. After he left he decided America was where he was going to go, and thus Torchwood: miracle day was born. It's just the 4th season set in America
"if your the best engalnd has to offer then god help you""im welsh" loving that XD
I agree. If they'd just brought new characters to the original Torchwood base, no doubt everyone would still be complaining. I thought this was one of the most exciting series, even though it was far-fetched.
torchwood is an anagram of doctor who
@Superultimateay they aren't claiming that it is. It's just that any show isn't a remake or whatever is shown as an original program. In no way is Starz claiming that they came up with it. If you're gonna freak out at least research things first.
I don't understand what everyone is complaining about...If this show is "ruined" by Americans then don't watch it, shut up, and go away. Please.
@c14five I don't think they'll be allowed to have crossovers anymore now that Torchwood has gone to a new country.
That's uncalled for, I'm part american part scottish and I must say, Miracle Day was very well done, yes there were no aliens but Torchwood wasn't all about aliens, like Jack says, Torchwood investigates the alien AND paranormal, and no one dying sure is something paranormal. I do agree with one thing, if they do another series, then they should go back to Britain, but it wouldnt be about the rift anymore since it was closed when the doctor fixed the cracks in time
@InsanelyOrange because you can still feel the pain and your body get damaged... just don't die...
@Demonsword92 Torchwood is a British science fiction television programme; acquiring US financing in its fourth series...
@Seafret1412 and if u remember jack does find it and trys escaping from the CIA area but then gets shot so it might not be FULLY like the old torchwood but atleast it does show what torchwood does but its a good series all in all
Bring back the original season format Torchwood needs more members.
1:24
Gwen's kid's just there like "yes, mother, shoot them. I want to see them bleed."
"If you're the best Englands got to offer then god help you!"
"I'm Welsh."
@Ghosthand do you really want to know? or would you rather go and watch??? XD
anyways, if you do [spoilers ahead] ianto died of gas (I cried, he was my fave character), Owen died in a nuclear reactor meltdown... and Tosh died few moments after that....
@JordanEvans3794 Barrowman is Scottish born citizen of the U.S.A. who speaks English correctly as is done in Illinois.
its moving water, very low surface tension, easy to fall into it.
R.I.P Torchwood. Bring back the original WELSH Torchwood.
@RyuYoung orginial series jis just how american broadcasters say "Wedidn't buy from someone else, we made it and funded it."
@reecetomm Blame it on the fans. Lots of people stopped watching the show with Ianto's death in Children of Earth. Russell wasn't even sure they had enough of a fanbase after that to get the BBC to bring it back on their own.
@Clarity09Videos sorry, but part was filmed in LA
Love the shots of The Rectory and Worm's Head on the Gower coast. Spend many a great holiday there. Love the 'I'm Welsh' line..............ace
it was out in 2011 starting on the 14th July
you should be able to watch it on tv-links.eu
@BaLLeRAl05 that is a really good point. we'll have to find out
@revesvans Torchwood is a TV show, it was a spin-off from Doctor Who back in ..2006 I think? It was a good show, you should watch it if you like Doctor Who.
@daiddaful We already know Captain Jack isn't going to die. He lives until the end of time as the Face of Boe.
@Tyrannulet2k I read somewhere that the BBC has the lead on the project
1:24 for Gwen Cooper and baby.
@danimayb I just finished watching S4E2 and I have to say that it is amazing. My favorite actor so far is Eve Myles (Gwen Cooper) whose maternal no bullshit attitude really eclipses her American counterparts, including Jack.
What is interesting is the fact that the British public have had three seasons of Torchwood to get used to, not to mention Doctor Who, whereas on this side of the pond we are practically getting it all at once. The yanks end up looking goofy!
@MysteriousStranger03 i think it premiered first on the BBC, and on they're showing it on the Starz network, which is a US network.
“I’m Welsh.”
Important distinction to make.
@DCKingdom09 - You do realise that Russell T Davis is still making the show, right? There's nothing different apart from the location and the fact the US get it first
@KERKYRA199 Well, the 1996 movie was an attempt to bring back Doctor Who - on FOX. That was mostly American.
Russell T Davies was involved with this, and I think he wrote two episodes. Fortunately, this is a continuation, not simply a US version of the show. (US copies of UK shows like - Coupling, All in the Family, Three's Company, The Office, Reggie) However, the UK copied the US Law and Order. One UK Law & Order episode I saw was a UK version of a US script.
I heard that the USA has a censored version of Torchwood, and that Wales(UK) has a edited version.
They have made another season especially with that cliffhanger. Rex is immortal wow , just love this season better production. The story was great .had me hooked to the very end. Season 6 please with Rex.
Bro season 5 hasn’t even been out yet what are you on
@@kjl3080 season 5 is officially that big finish audiobook series they did
@Sal0pe69 Yeah... and? Jack's been around for a few lifetimes, and I highly doubt that he hadn't learned, over time, to move on from his losses. Also, good job paying attention, since the death of his grandson, and Ianto were actually mentioned a few times (by Danes and Jack himself, respectively).
No, I really don't expect Jack to linger on, especially after two years. If you do, you're kind of a fool.
BTW how do the Welsh & Scots feel about the nice German Battenberg family? Charley is Prince of Wales and Phil is Duke of Edinburgh.