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    0:00 Intro
    1:51 Installing TrueNAS on a Terramaster
    4:51 Is TrueNAS any better?
    11:41 Overall thoughts
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Komentáře • 143

  • @RaidOwl
    @RaidOwl  Před rokem +15

    Yes, I misspoke about ZFS being a “memory hog”. I meant more that it will work better the more RAM you throw at it since it can use pretty much all of it. Thanks everyone for pointing that out though 😒

  • @HardwareHaven
    @HardwareHaven Před rokem +67

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy
    Also, thanks for the shoutout! Working on that video as I'm typing this.. lol

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Před rokem +7

      Goodluck soldier 🫡

    • @jumpmaster5279
      @jumpmaster5279 Před rokem +4

      Holy nas, Collab soo sooon yaaaaaaessss

    • @illstateofmind
      @illstateofmind Před rokem +3

      Both of you have excellent content.

    • @JonathanTalksHW
      @JonathanTalksHW Před rokem +2

      @@illstateofmind yes fr! I love both of em

    • @kirkfoster2673
      @kirkfoster2673 Před rokem

      That was perfect you guys. Very funny! Big fan of both, nice to see the skit.

  • @MasonzeroDigitalWorks
    @MasonzeroDigitalWorks Před rokem +15

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy.
    Also, so cool to see Hardware Haven here as well. Two of my favorite smaller tech channels that I've discovered this year! You guys are both educational and fun to watch.

  • @Rankallthethings
    @Rankallthethings Před rokem +6

    I got the F2-223 and put TrueNAS Core on it. It's working great.

  • @JeffGeerling
    @JeffGeerling Před rokem +13

    Hardware Haven Helps Heal Hardware

  • @mariotubelecce
    @mariotubelecce Před rokem +17

    there is a simple(r) solution for usb 3 boot drive: get one of those SLC 32GB usb disk along with a USB flexible extension to put it inside the chassis near the vent airflow. SLC USB drives are fast enough for scale install and will last FOREVER. You'll also have the ability to use both nvme drives

  • @ccoder4953
    @ccoder4953 Před rokem +5

    The whole "zfs is a memory hog" thing is a bit of a myth. Most of the issues around that arise if you use dedupe. Since that's not something you really need most of the time (and if you really need it, you can enable it on just one dataset), huge memory sizes aren't super necessary. Having said that, more memory is helpful for things like caching, but how much you really need there depends on how you use your data.

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Před rokem

      Yeah I know what you mean. I meant it more like “ZFS works best with large amounts of ram”

  • @iamborg3of9
    @iamborg3of9 Před rokem +2

    it's extra work, but you can ditch k3s and go with straight docker on scale. more of an advanced implementation though.

  • @slow_Jo
    @slow_Jo Před 3 měsíci

    Great video. Have you taken a look at UGreen's kickstarter for their Nasync devices? The hardware they have looks pretty good, starting with the Intel N100 all the way to the i5-1235u. Those 2 performance cores in the i5 are pretty powerful.

  • @bett0diaz
    @bett0diaz Před rokem +6

    Plex the favourite one?? Jellyfin FTW!!

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Před rokem +4

      I knew someone would call me out on that lol

  • @sweetmelon3365
    @sweetmelon3365 Před rokem

    Love the vid and love the Collab

  • @Yuriel1981
    @Yuriel1981 Před rokem +1

    I'd pay 150$ for a full networking course on scale...... but yeah a VPN video on scale would help. Maybe work again with HH and Jeff. I know you guys have been in cahoots for a little bit now. Love the vids brotha keep em coming.

  • @michaelkane6797
    @michaelkane6797 Před rokem +4

    Yes, I would absolutely like to see certificates set up on TrueNAS Scale.. I couldn't get it working and gave up. Oh, and...
    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy. Please don't ask me to do that again...

  • @NickF1227
    @NickF1227 Před rokem

    You can probably get around the boot drive problem with nvme namespaces if you can find an m.2 that actually support it

  • @blademan7671
    @blademan7671 Před rokem +5

    Yes. Vpn on TrueNas scale walkthrough please!

  • @sbv-zs7wz
    @sbv-zs7wz Před rokem +1

    Seen a few people try out running disk station manager using tcrp bootloader on this hardware

  • @theWSt
    @theWSt Před 5 měsíci

    "First step is to take the top of" - "Weird request, but OK" 😂😂😂

  • @boneappletee6416
    @boneappletee6416 Před rokem +1

    I would be interested in a guide for setting up a VPN within TrueNAS :)

  • @elmestguzman3038
    @elmestguzman3038 Před rokem +2

    Nice little NAS. Did you try to install OMV just to see hot it runs?

  • @Cooper3312000
    @Cooper3312000 Před rokem

    I run Xpenology on my dual core version because I’m cheap, but it works well. Oh and they use Intel i225 Nic chipset not Realtek like most cheap ones.

  • @awillyerd4996
    @awillyerd4996 Před rokem +1

    Excellent Shirt, best I've seen all day! Do you have a homelab solution for MLB blackouts?

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Před rokem +2

      Just Google “MLB Streams Reddit” 😏

  • @johnpapworth433
    @johnpapworth433 Před rokem

    I have a few Terramasters - and yeah the OS is a bit gash, ujsing TrueNAS is a great alternative I am gonna get my look on

  • @Doesntcompute2k
    @Doesntcompute2k Před rokem +2

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy.
    At LEAST HH knows you're weird. That's a start to a bro-mance. He's cool. I like when he does a video project, something just doesn't work, and he continues, SHOWING US his mistake. Mark of a great creator!
    Terramaster had/has (okay leaning toward "HAD") a chance, a huge chance, of making very good, low-cost NAS with great software. They failed. It's obvious from everyone's review on CZcams they failed. Synology and TrueNAS {core,scale} are the Gold Standards. Synology "just works." (Most of the time!) But TrueNAS has so much going for it and will only get better. I like you taking the time to show taking this mess and making it useable. I see this has a great "dorm room NAS" for a kid to take to college. Or perhaps for a baby NAS for cameras' recordings.
    Keep up the great videos my fine feathered creator.

  • @joshhardin666
    @joshhardin666 Před rokem +3

    What's wrong with just using a usb flash drive as your boot medium? the only time you really need to write to it is for stuff like os updates and configuration changes which happen super rarely. most of what you do with the nas is going to be done on the pool(s)

    • @mdd1963
      @mdd1963 Před 5 měsíci

      TrueNAS writes a lot of metadata to it's boot device, wearing out most flash drives in short order. Spend the $20 on a 64 gb ssd! :)

  • @Bits4you
    @Bits4you Před rokem

    A walk-through for setting up a VPN on Scale would be greatly Appreciated kind Sir. 🍻

  • @philippemiller4740
    @philippemiller4740 Před rokem +1

    Damn I like your videos man! Keep it up 😊👍

  • @Bill_the_Red_Lichtie
    @Bill_the_Red_Lichtie Před rokem

    Recycling with TrueNAS, great going! And . . .
    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy

  • @ganeryhyperion8386
    @ganeryhyperion8386 Před rokem

    what if someone made a mod to use the pcie port and replace with 4 port nic or sfp nic in that way it can utilize as a router to

  • @ntgm20
    @ntgm20 Před rokem

    I'd consider subscribing. Oh wait, I have already. Good vid, I appreciate you too.

  • @jankowalski-lg7cs
    @jankowalski-lg7cs Před rokem

    Great humour, It would be epic if you make a video about VPN

  • @endibobey
    @endibobey Před 4 dny

    Can I install it on F2-420?

  • @antonpriestley5105
    @antonpriestley5105 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Has anyone got Hardware Transcoding working with Plex inside Truenas?
    I’ve spent the weekend trying with no success

  • @enjibkk6850
    @enjibkk6850 Před rokem +1

    This is my exact journey after realizing my shiny new qnap nas didn't do zfs or btrfs

  • @cmdr_talikarni
    @cmdr_talikarni Před 8 měsíci

    Most linux based OS loads as much as possible into RAM, and only read/write drives when required, instead of Windows that tries to load everything from the drive...

  • @bahamatom
    @bahamatom Před rokem

    What was your reason that you didn't run TrueNAS from the USB drive? Why not a good idea? I have been running it for the past year plus from a USB drive.

    • @philiprobar
      @philiprobar Před rokem

      Most USB flash drives are low quality and will experience an early death if an OS is run from them.

    • @bahamatom
      @bahamatom Před rokem

      @@philiprobar Is it really a problem for a home use/home lab (hobby) scenario that have way less read writes (where as being the OS having less so writes that actual diminishes the lifespan)? Between installing a second USB drive (mirroring) and or installing a usb to M.2/SSD as an option, I don't see the need to be that concerned in the first place. My Terramaster TrueNAS has been running with no issues for the past year. If the USB drive becomes an issue (I doubt it for the next 2 to 4 years) I have a backup of the OS & config and I will just slap in a USB to M.2 drive, and secure it in-between the fan and the Drives. In my opinion it is way to valuable to use the onboard M.2 slots for the OS. Your reasoning for Home Office/Small Business I can agree not to use USB drives. To be honest in such scenarios is using a Terramaster running an unsupported OS, really the smart option, to be used in a Home Office/Small Business scenario?

  • @lamar9525
    @lamar9525 Před rokem

    Great YT! Can you please do a walk through to setup a VPN? I'm a dirty little Raid Owl FanBoy!

  • @nofatchicks6
    @nofatchicks6 Před 3 měsíci

    I already have media on my HDDs for Plex, what will happen to this if I upgrade to TruNAS?

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Před 3 měsíci +1

      You’ll need to reformat the drives.

  • @azmotorhead3614
    @azmotorhead3614 Před rokem

    I was so excited to try this out, until I got my NAS open and found there were no NVMe or RAM slots... it was at that moment that, much to my dismay, I realized I have the F2-210, the much inferior predecessor to the model you use in this video.

  • @bertnijhof5413
    @bertnijhof5413 Před rokem +1

    Ii is a nice vide, but:
    - ZFS is NOT a memory hog, I run it om a 2003 backup server with 1GB of DDR (400MHz); Pentium 4 HT (3.0GHz); 4 HDDs 1.21TB (2x IDE; 2x SATA-1). It runs FreeBSD 13.2' + XFCE on OpenZFS 2.1.9. It has one small disadvantage, it only runs the backup (send | ssh receive) at ~200Mbps due to a ~95% load on one CPU thread. ZFS uses a large part of free memory for the L1ARC (memory cache) to store the lz4 compressed records, but memory will be freed again if needed.
    - I run FreeBSD from the zroot datapool on 2 IDE HDDs (Raid 0; 250+320GB) and I also use those HDDs to store some of my backup datasets. The other datapool has 2 laptop HDDs (2x 320GB; Raid 0; SATA).

  • @jonathanzj620
    @jonathanzj620 Před rokem

    Im a dirty little raid owl fanboy and would love a vpn setup on scale walk through. I have several failed attempts across proxmox, casa os, scale, pf sense, .....you get the idea lol

  • @Joeyhelmond0492
    @Joeyhelmond0492 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I’m a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy.
    TerraMaster would be better off selling those units with TrueNAS preinstalled

  • @DanceingDragon
    @DanceingDragon Před rokem

    Love Raid Owls humor

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Před rokem +1

      I love Dancing Dragon’s comments

  • @VaughnCraddock
    @VaughnCraddock Před rokem

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy! I did this with my 4-bay NAS from TerraMaster.

  • @weisstdudochnicht1
    @weisstdudochnicht1 Před rokem

    Though the Terramaster is basically a donor for a Mainboard with CPU and PSU and case for 379$ 😅

  • @pepeshopping
    @pepeshopping Před rokem +1

    ZFS is NOT a “memory hog”!
    But yes, that’s what somebody that doesn’t know would say…

  • @antonw.zimakos8981
    @antonw.zimakos8981 Před rokem

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy. Thanks!

  • @anicolau
    @anicolau Před rokem

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy.
    i just wonder why this channel does not have 200k, 300k subscribers yet

  • @guy_autordie
    @guy_autordie Před rokem +1

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy. It's the rule, I guess.

  • @JonathanTalksHW
    @JonathanTalksHW Před rokem

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy
    Nice video...

  • @Lunolux
    @Lunolux Před 5 měsíci

    damn nas are so expensive,
    looking to build one myself should be less expensive and would be fun to build one

  • @SeraphX2
    @SeraphX2 Před rokem

    "simultaneous transcodes at the same time"
    ... wait for it ...
    there ya go

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Před rokem

      Simultaneous transcodes at the same time while multiple other transcodes are also running

    • @SeraphX2
      @SeraphX2 Před rokem

      @@RaidOwl simultaneous already covers "at the same time" as other transcodes. that's literally the definitionof "simultaneous".
      If you wrote "simultaneous transcodes at the same time" in a paper in English class, your teacher would mark it red as redundant words.

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Před rokem

      Good thing this isn’t an English class

  • @iamdunn1
    @iamdunn1 Před rokem +1

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy

  • @Bits4you
    @Bits4you Před rokem

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl Fanboy.
    keep the content coming sir.

  • @acozad1
    @acozad1 Před rokem

    I’m a dirty little owl fanboy. Was thinking about putting unraid on it because of it booting into ram. Just a thought.

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Před rokem

      Yeah that’s def a solid option!

  • @Revithd87
    @Revithd87 Před rokem +1

    Your background makes you look like a demented Mickey mouse😂😂

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Před rokem +1

      Step into my lair..I mean the Mickey Mouse Club..

  • @InSaiyan-Shinobi
    @InSaiyan-Shinobi Před rokem

    How could I setup NordVPN on truenas scale would be dope

  • @kealc002
    @kealc002 Před rokem

    I'm a dirty little raid owl fan boy!

  • @t3ddyd
    @t3ddyd Před 4 měsíci

    I think the size of the USB-Sticks is pretty average... 😢

  • @sillycoda1084
    @sillycoda1084 Před rokem +1

    everyone's following the rules here without realizing why. i do it for his top tier memes. what's up? the sky. *pause* lmaooooo
    also,
    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy.

  • @pieteryts
    @pieteryts Před rokem +2

    i'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy 😂

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Před rokem +3

      Oh I know Pieter don’t worry 😏

  • @VaughnCraddock
    @VaughnCraddock Před rokem

    I DEFINATELY need to walkthrough setting up OpenVPN on TrueNas Scale. PLEASE HELP Mr. Owl!!! (Where do I send the first installment of $14.95. JK!)

  • @emiellr
    @emiellr Před rokem +1

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Před rokem +1

      No I am!

    • @emiellr
      @emiellr Před rokem

      @@RaidOwl Fine, can I at least be your sidekick? 😘😘

  • @bluesquadron593
    @bluesquadron593 Před rokem

    That not how you normally use vpn. You add the ovpn file somewhere and the apps have a section where you just link that file. That’s it.

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Před rokem

      For a client, maybe. For a server you need to get it properly set up.

    • @bluesquadron593
      @bluesquadron593 Před rokem

      @@RaidOwl aa I missed the point, I thought it was to let your (arr)apps behind VPN. I was 10% paying attention 😂

  • @trapOrdoom
    @trapOrdoom Před 3 měsíci

    Subbed lmao.

  • @Xenoch1
    @Xenoch1 Před rokem

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy.

  •  Před rokem +1

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy!

  • @Narmer4ever
    @Narmer4ever Před rokem

    'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy :D

  • @vollhorst140
    @vollhorst140 Před rokem

    Im a Dirty Little raid owl fanboy.

  • @njain2686
    @njain2686 Před rokem

    I am a dirtly little Raid Owl fanboy

  • @TheChadXperience909
    @TheChadXperience909 Před rokem

    One thing you don't include in the cost is the price of the storage. Go ahead, and just double the cost of the unit, itself.

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Před rokem

      Well yeah but that’s gonna heavily depend on how much you need

  • @SharkBait_ZA
    @SharkBait_ZA Před rokem +2

    In before all. 🙂

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Před rokem

      💪🏼

    • @SharkBait_ZA
      @SharkBait_ZA Před rokem +1

      @@RaidOwl Apologies, obviously I forgot about the rules.
      I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy.

  • @hjarsbaekable
    @hjarsbaekable Před rokem

    i’m a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy❤✌🏻🤘🏻

  • @ernestoditerribile
    @ernestoditerribile Před rokem

    I’m a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy

  • @philiprobar
    @philiprobar Před rokem

    ZFS is not a memory hog. It uses free RAM for cache and releases it when needed elsewhere.
    Free RAM is wasted Ram.

  • @Solkre82
    @Solkre82 Před rokem

    If your USB drive is a real SSD then it should be ok to install and run TrueNAS off it.

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Před rokem

      Just gonna find one that fits lol

  • @synthium_
    @synthium_ Před rokem

    guess i'm a dirty little raid owl fanboy

  • @JasonsLabVideos
    @JasonsLabVideos Před rokem

    I'm the BIGGEST dirty little Raid Owl fanboy

  • @zackwalker6397
    @zackwalker6397 Před rokem +1

    I’m the dirtiest raid owl fan boy

    • @zackwalker6397
      @zackwalker6397 Před rokem

      I really hope my wife doesn’t see this…

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Před rokem +2

      Hey it’s me your wife

  • @bett0diaz
    @bett0diaz Před rokem

    I am a little Raid Owl fanboy

  • @illstateofmind
    @illstateofmind Před rokem

    What about unRAID on this thing?

  • @Thewickedjon
    @Thewickedjon Před rokem +4

    a cache-less truenas is unusably slow my friend.
    you should consider putting unraid on that usb thumbdrive,
    unraid is designed to run ON usb drives,
    then keep the two nvme drives as a large cache pool,
    and that is the ticket to success

    • @nadtz
      @nadtz Před rokem +2

      What exactly are you doing with your truenas that it's unusably slow without cache? My nas is fine without any special vdev's

    • @Thewickedjon
      @Thewickedjon Před rokem

      ​@@nadtz maybe it's my rig?? idk man
      my truenas rig has:
      cpu: intel pentium g4600 (2c/4t, "skylake family")
      ram: 8gb ddr4
      ssd: 240gb nvme pci-e ssd (running truenas scale 22.02.4)
      hdd: 2tb WD "enterprise" sata 3 (6gb/s) at 7200rpm - hdd's (x7)
      case: AUDHEID K7 8 Bay NAS Case (from amazon)
      Transfer speeds avg about 12MB/s,
      Whereas on the UNRAID server (that has 1tb ssd cache) transfer speeds avg 96MB/s
      both on same lan,
      granted, the unraid has way better specs (xeon e5 2699v3, 96gb ram, etc.) but its just transfering data , shouldn't need heavywheight cpu for that

  • @Alan.livingston
    @Alan.livingston Před rokem

    I’m just a dirty fanboy. Not really fussed who. It’s a daddy complex thing. I just crave attention.

  • @isaacaymerich2741
    @isaacaymerich2741 Před 2 měsíci

    zfs encryption in terramaster is just horrible due this cpus doesn't have AVX and unfortuantelly ZFS is not using aes-ni provided by this cpu for encryption :(

  • @nottabandaid
    @nottabandaid Před rokem

    do you accept v-bucks? hahah jk

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Před rokem

      Fortnite Fortnite Fortnite!

  • @FSchack
    @FSchack Před rokem

    TrueNAS Scale sucks, TrueCharts apps blocks during install, the file system fails.

    • @FSchack
      @FSchack Před 11 měsíci

      Now I'm running OpenMediaVault, it's much better, the user interface is more straight to the point and it works. I stumbled across that there for some reason is an incompatibility between ZFS and Docker containers, but you can configure your way out of it. Anyway, I don't like ZFS, so I'm happy with OpenMediaVault where I can choose myself.

  • @kaushmaisuria
    @kaushmaisuria Před 3 měsíci

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy.

  • @DJSammy69.
    @DJSammy69. Před rokem

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy!

  • @justinhammer515
    @justinhammer515 Před rokem +1

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy

  • @peterg4527
    @peterg4527 Před rokem

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy

  • @svpeders
    @svpeders Před rokem

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy

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    @SLAU6HT3R Před rokem

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy

  • @StevenLVE9SY
    @StevenLVE9SY Před rokem

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy

  • @user-ue4jf8fw3m
    @user-ue4jf8fw3m Před rokem

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy

  • @abhiniveshvijayan361
    @abhiniveshvijayan361 Před rokem

    i'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy

  • @techaddressed
    @techaddressed Před rokem

    I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy