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Playoff expectations is too high 🤷🏾♂️💯
Biggest problem for Bryce Young last year was that the guy taken after him completely outplayed him. So I would consider a reasonable expectation for Caleb Williams is that the quarterbacks taken after him don't show him up. That and his play isn't so terrible that we're questioning if he even knows how to play. So Caleb should be decent but not necessarily great. Clearly the best of his draft and showing his potential but possibly with some wrinkles that can be written off due to inexperience in the NFL. Last game of the season should also be better than the first and if it's worse, oh boy.
Who cares if someone else has a better rookie year? That doesn't define a career.
Nah. bryces biggest issue was the team around him was horrible. He didn't have any good support.
Well he definitely has the weapons around him to be great. Even Zach Wilson could play with the roster the Bears have.
Except stroud went to a far better team than Bryce. Panthers butchered themselves to get him and the texans had multiple first round picks and made probably more offseason moves than any team in the league. If bears fail after how many picks they've accumulated over the last 3 years plus all the players they've signed then williams was just massively overrated.
You can hype him up all you want, but we remember how many times the “experts” have been completely wrong. Mahomes is the best QB in the league yet he was a project QB in the draft with a lot of things going against him. And that is my point, college performance and draft hype isn’t a good predictor of how well that QB will do in the nfl.
The thing that matters most is how well a team can develop a QB and improve their skills. That is what makes or breaks a QB’s career. It’s a team sport in the end. The bears do not have the best track record when it comes to that, that’s what I’m basing my expectations on.
Neither did KC before Mahomes.
If mahomes was drafted by any other team he’d be a back up currently
Without one of the best offensive coaches in the league and a top 5 roster his entire career mahomes would've been mid. He was a project qb that was gifted the perfect situation similar to purdy with the 49ers. Teams try so hard to pick their franchise qb and think it's a bust because the rest of the team sucks and then overhype the ones who are carried to wins.
Bears fan here. Bears won 7 games last year and their defense didn't start clicking until the 2nd half. They also had a few colossal 4th qtr losses. They've upgraded at C, WR, and S. Caleb SHOULD be an upgrade at QB in week 1, even if he's just average at first. Plus, whatever they do at 9 should be a blue-chip starter. There are no guarantees in football, but the Bears should be a fringe playoff team on paper.
Chicago Bears fan for over 50 years and I have QB PTSD !!
Good take!
Caleb just needs to get acclimated to the team and the game, just like everyone else. He's a rookie, irregardless of hype or draft position.
Isn't it amazing how the Bears situation went from TERRIBLE for Justin Fields to stay in ,even though u could add Harrison JR plus #9 , plus extra picks, and then miraculously became THE BEST SITUATION and roster EVER , for a #1 pick the second Fields was traded ? Just asking.
No one is drafting a WR #1 overall
Justin fields can’t play😂 that’s the difference, what’s the point in adding all this receiver talent if he can’t see open dudes
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Williams is going to be a disaster in the NFL
Can’t wait to see it
BEAR DOWN CW13
He’s going to be number 18
Hell yes
It's gonna be high regardless. Cuz people expecting Brady, Mahomes, Manning levels of greatness. They'll say "oh well the Texans went to the playoffs last year, the Bears should do the same"
Well, they weren’t far off the playoffs last year and the roster is only better. Of course people are going to expect it. If he’s being sold as better than the very popular Fields, that is actively the expectation.
Seems like the Media is already trying to curb expectations so they can say it wasn't them that was wrong about Caleb it is all because of his situation.
The best rookie QBs on paper are Cam Newton and Justin Herbert. Cam the best dual threat QB and Justin the best passer. But Brock Purdy was really good his rookie year at the helm helping a really good team to the NFC Championship game. Then CJ Stroud. What a run! Winning the division and a playoff game as a rookie! Numbers are good but the run tells the "clutch!"
Unrealistic high expectations of a rookie Caleb Williams would be a 5000 yard pass season with 40 TDs and winning the division and/or a NFC Championship appearance.
Sure it's highly unlikely but so is a QB of his talent to join a roster like the Bears. If Williams translates to the NFL the way he played college all the above is very possible. He has the team. He's very talented. If he plays all 17 games and the Bears stay healthy I don't see why Williams and the Bears don't have 4000+ pass yards, 30+ pass TDs and a playoff berth.
Great take!! I personally dont think Caleb is the best QB for this draft...but i will root for Caleb. The Bears for the first time ever are actually setting up the QB for success first
The bears are still not getting mahomes in this scenario. The Browns will, then the 49ers pick Garrett which leaves the bears with (since they liked him over Watson) Trubisky. At least they don't have to trade up for him.
Yeah, if Mahomes had Caleb Williams hype the Browns would have drafted him.
I hope the best for Williams but he is going to Chicago where QBs die. Good luck.
Expecting his Rookie year to be like Daks is too high.
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There are no guaranteed, he could end up being a career backup. Or a multi time superbowl champ. The only thing we know is hes getting a shot, and chicago is in a better state than when JF came in
Myles…wasn’t it Wilcox?
When your drafted 1 overall what is the expectation? HoF....thats the reality for even top 5 picks is your gonna be a franchise HoF player. Why that is no longer the standard I just don't get it
Andy Reid learned football by being Jim McMahon’s left tackle.
Rookie of the year, Super Bowl year 2. If not year one
Anything other than shattering all the bears rookie QB records is failing to meet expectations, although that's mostly because Bears rookie QB records are all awful.
Unless he go to the Super Bowl yall hyped this man so much it’s going to ruin him
Winning a Game is beyond my expectations of Caleb Williams!
I think he will be fine. He will have his rookie growing pains for sure but we have a lot of weapons for him to thrive here.
Trubisky was not pretty good his 1st year. He stunk every year
Lot of people must've stunk one year because he went to the pro bowl
@@SunShine-xc6dh Tyler Huntley made the Pro Bowl in a year he threw for 2 TDs and Under 700 yards.
And yet he still did better than bustin fields
@jasonjanisewski78 that's cool what the price of tea I China? Last time I checked thats not how you spell mitch trubiski..
Still stinks
I hope Caleb's game translates to the NFL
Will not
@thomasmelone1028 Now, how the hell do you know that?
Biggest Bust in NFL History? Maybe! or regular bust.
Just don't get sacked 100 times and/or get injured. It's the Bears, I can see it happening far too easily.
Ehhh… you have to remember that we never had a QB who could see the field. Fields and the guys before couldn’t get past the first read and stuck to them for the most part hoping they would get open in which the oline ended up buckling which led to those sacks. The Bears offensive line is better than what fields made them look like. Caleb can see the field make plays, and there is no question on that.
Bookmarked for when he is traded fir a 6th in 3 years.
Honestly, in my opinion, I think that we shouldn’t hype these kids up so much because college is one thing and the NFL is a whole different animal and then when these kids don’t pan out or don’t live up to the hype that the media put on them as fans we sit and watch guys trash these young athletes just like Bryce Young got trash this year just like Zach Wilson got trashed and that’s just two names. Lord knows how many other first round quarterbacks were hyped up and then trashed by the media three months into the season it’s just repetitive.
If we dont start making excuses for him now people might catch on to the fact we don't know what were talking about
They did not even mention Mike Glennon. Embarrassing!!
It’s going to be a train wreck of epic proportions
Caleb’s gonna bust
& I can’t wait to watch it happen
BEAR DOWN JF STINKS
The Bears better get a veteran QB to help Caleb
this guy is going to get BEAT UP, with his O line that can not hold water !!!!!! He will be RUNNING for his LIFE !!!
Mahomes got Andy Reid. Williams is getting Eberfluss. Huge difference.
He’s also getting the OC that revived Geno Smith’s career
Amd mahomes watched his first year
Any other situation and mahomes would currently be a back up
I cannot be the only person who feels the media has hyped this guy into the HoF before he's stepped foot on a damn football field.
How many times they gotta go through this lmao
You’re the only one.
He’s going to be an NFL disaster
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Yes he is
Name a good team USC best and he played good
Williams specialized in leafing the higher ranked / better team to losing
Why?
There is no top high. Williams is going into the best situation a 1st overall pick has probably ever gone into so anything other than playoffs is a wasted season.
This is really feeling like we are set up for a JaMarcus Russell situation. With how weird he does business and the draft process it feels like a setup for disappointment
He needs to work on not turning the ball over 😂😂.
You really thought that was worth 2 emojis?
Don’t expect him to be in the top 20 in stats for QBs this year unless we have tons of Qb injuries again this year. The guy is completely overrated. How many QBs have we seen come out Riley’s system and not live up to expectations. Hurts is the only one and I’d attribute that to playing both for Saban and Riley and the system they play in Philly. I don’t expect Caleb to be a starter after 3-4 years in the NFL because he relies on his WRs being overwhelmingly better than those defending them and a top Oline. He won’t have that coming into the NFL and we will see him run a lot and making poor decisions just like when he got flustered at USC.
U do know a guy who plays for KC #15 came from Riley system??
If the bears took Mahomes he would be a bust
Five wins would be generous.
The realization starting to sit in that Caleb will be a bust is fun to watch, cover you bases right!
And what is making you come to that conclusion? Caleb has shown to be a great athlete with a good head on his shoulders (maybe a bit cocky but you need confidence in the NFL). Not saying he’s guaranteed not to be a bust but you’re just saying stuff
They are gonna blame everyone else but Caleb 😂 sound familiar?
Why will be a bust? Without mentioning Chicago's past. So why do you automatically think he will be a bust?
The first gay QB
Another bears bust
Damn. Thought it was gonna work out. Whelp there’s always next year’s draft.
Caleb Williams may be so that all Bears fan will be painting their finger nails like him. when they are RED the Bears fans will paint their nails red. when they are PINK the Bears fans will paint their nails Pink. and so on. BEARS Fans will jump on board on this fad. when he wears a Dress they will come to games in Dresses like him. and when he cries after a loss this will become a thing Grown men crying over a Bears loss
Headcase.
Can he stop trying to advertise the shitty podcast with his wife. Damn I hate that nepotism. If nobody listens to it with you mentioning it 100 times then it’s simply not good. I like his show but this mentioning of the what that football is WTF
Like all these jokers, they are running backs not quarterbacks.
Like Russ Limbaugh said the NFL hell bent on getting a successful black quarterback even if it has been a detriment to the game. Translated, watch me run and jump over the neighbors fence.
I ain't staying in the pocket and scan the field.