Why the Tories are back in Scotland: a fishy business | Anywhere but Westminster
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2017
- John Harris and John Domokos get immersed in the towns and cities of north-east Scotland, where the oil price crash and the ups and downs of the fishing industry have created a political storm around Brexit and Scottish independence - and the perfect climate for a Tory revival.
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I absolutely love these videos, one of the best series going. Honest, behind the scenes, unbiased reporting of real people!
JMakes it is bais. the reporter is clearing against the tories.
I mean its pretty obvious people who work at the Guardian aren't on the far right, but i'm saying the way they present it is unbiased. They're not trying to enforce an ideology on you, rather they're just showing what people concerns/views are by asking questions.
JMakes yes but just look at the way he ways tories at the end. I hate the tories as well but he is bais even they ask people from all areas if the political spectrum.
I mean, everyone is bias, there are no truely neutral reporters, but as i said they present it in an objective way with all different opinions from all different people
Reporter also represents English newspaper so is 100% against SNP.
I wonder what those fishermen think now!
In the light of the new (December 2019), election result, this explains the perplexing result of the Tories winning in North East Scotland. Moray is just up the road from me in Inverness and this seemed weird. Very like the North East of England: economic decline combined with scepticism or ideological problems with prospective progressive representatives.
Glad I am not the only one reviewing this series after the 2019 election
The Scottish Government does not control economic policy. It's not in their remit (excluding business rates). So to imply that because a business failed is a consequence of SNP failure is not just (7:00). There is no Scottish economy - only the Scottish dimension of a British economy. Devolve powers over macroeconomics, finance, tax, business, labour, wages, regulations, unions, trade, industrial policy, energy, welfare and debt and then we'll see what happens. Until then, it's not a fair argument to blame the Scottish Government, under any colour, for the policy failures of the British one. Go to any town in any country in Britain and the highstreet looks the same. Some vibrancy, a lot of shabbiness and a bunch of boarded up shops.
But business rates is only one small part of economic policy. In the grand scheme it accounts for very little and was really only given to the Scotland on the grounds that it and Council Tax are 'local' taxes, with local government being a devolved area.
But business rates are not a failure in Scotland. One of the SNP's flagship policies has been business rate relief or abolition for more than 100,000 small businesses. And important as business rates may be on the micro level, it doesn't compare to all of the other things I mentioned over which the Scottish Government has no authority.
The policy began in 2008, but again I reiterate Scotland has no true economic levers. This isn't opinion, it's fact. The Scottish Government and Parliament do not have legal authority to legislate on these issues. I'm not aware of the specific problems you reference but since the macro-foundations of the economy determine pretty much everything else in society, it's the most important thing to get right. But since those powers are retained, fiddling with a couple of little policies here and there is the best we can hope for.
So the Scottish Governmemt has no responsibility, that sure is some deluded logic and no towns around England don't all look like that, if you live in England you would know better than to suggest they did.
The Scottish Government and parliament have no legal right to legislate for all the areas I described. That's the unfortunate reality. There are hundreds of towns around England, many look as I described, as they do throughout Britain.
@3:00 I definitely expected John to be taken to a swinger's club
John, your content is alway fantastic! Keep it up
This series is mostly excellent. It represents views from all sides.
What I've noticed most of all is that there seems to be a strong correlation between mobility scooter users and common sense opinion.
I'ld like to see more of this journalist, the way he presents and interacts is good
I am a political scientist in the States, so I was trying to understand the U.K. election and trying to figure out why the northeast of Scotland voted Tory when the rest of Scotland went SNP... this video explains it. Thanks!!!
The SNP seem to assume they are the dominant force long term, but they are not making enough efforts in managing public services and it will not sustain
Similar thing down here in Wales. Welsh Labour haven't been great and a lot of people I know love Corbyn, love a lot of Labour, but don't like Welsh Labour. Please come and cover the issues here in South Wales.
Yea, Labour say they are going to do all these things. But when you see how they run Wales - its all lies.
Did the Brexit Textbook on Fishing included the fact that fisheries are controlled by the International Treaties outside the EU? lol
This one.
Whether or not agreement is reached on future UK/EU trade relations, the possibility for the UK to take unilateral action on fishing quotas is circumscribed by the fact that, inside or outside the EU, it is bound by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, signed in 1982.
This international agreement says that a coastal state has the right to control fishing within its 200-mile zone, but must also ‘seek to agree upon the measures necessary to coordinate and ensure the development of shared stocks’. This clause is designed to avoid states setting catch limits unilaterally, which usually leads to overfishing and damage to stocks.
Naw - Gove didn't make people aware.
The way it was before EU and Common Fisheries Policy you mean?
Fishing is fully controlled by EU. They allow every country in EU to fish in UK waters. They also control how much the Scottish fisher man can fish. Give targets to every country in EU to fish in Scotland.
@@ABanRocks No they don't. Every country agrees to quotas and UK was the country that would usually propose those quotas. So nice try.
@@ZygimantasA Finally why should they be allowed to fish in UK waters with out paying anything to UK. It doesn't matter who creates the quata. I just don't understand why you are UK with EU fisherman taking our resources for free.
Are these people absolutely mad? Tories have been in power for the last decade. SNP have limited power in Holyrood.
9:08 quickest I've ever heard anyone talk
the waters are overfished
an open minded journalist who works for the guardian - you don't get many of them....
"What a dodgy fucking paper that is" hahahaha.
guy at 1:14 has my shirt, dang
Gent rocking Iron Maiden, stylish look.
So many guitars...
This hasn't aged well.
2:12 - you what, mate...?
No mention of Scottish Labour? That's one reason why they can't win. They've lost their cushion of 40-50 Scottish seats.
Scotland has realised that Branch Offices parties don't have the best interests of Scotland at their heart.
LOL! VOTE TORY, GET FISH !!! I thought SNPolitburo was the home of the fish people what with Dodgy-Salmond and Fish Lips Sturgeon.
The sad thing is that these people believe that Brexit will sort their problems. Firstly the fishing industry generates less money than what the UK spends on foreign aid. Secondly if the U.K. wants a post Brexit deal with the EU, the EU will want fishing access.
It is a devolved addministration not a government, they are just the same as large council in England and they cost a lot of money
Ahhh good to know that you have Councils with their own legal system / Education and Religious 'systems')
Oh wait............they don't
Just think, if Scotland was run like England,
it would mean:
No free prescriptions.
No free elderly care.
Free buspass age would be 66, not 60.
University tuition fees.
No 9% pay rise for nurses/teachers.
No free school meals.
No free childcare for 3-4-year-olds.
Bridge Tolls.
Oh dear, that really did NOT age well.
Tories down to SIX MPs in Scotland...
not a bad result for tories at all, especially compared to Labour who have won 1 LOL
I’ve noticed several people claim that the SNP aren’t losing popularity. I would say losing 13.1% of their vote share to the conservatives pretty much proves it’s coming to an end.
Nope - DARK MONEY and EX-Labour Leader Kezia Dugdale told labour members to vote Tory. Last poll has Labour on 19%.
2019 - The party’s spring conference in Dundee this weekend, show that donations declined by almost 77 per cent in 2018 compared with the year before.
“The party’s position on Brexit is failing Labour’s core support” Labour source They totalled just £35,555 compared to £152,690 in 2017, contributing to a 65 per cent fall in income that drove the party £32,452 into the red at the end of 2018.
The party said the decline could be explained by the fact that there was no election campaign last year, but insiders said donors were “deserting in their droves” due to the party’s Brexit stance.
SNP have an increase of a further 7 seats.
not sure the eu will let the fishing go willingly and their agreement with our government does nt guarantee scots fishing or british fishing repeal the benn act it restricts our bargaining power
I hate fish. Not personally. As food.
I don't like Sturgeon.... Or Salmon..!! 😅
Watching this made me really sad. Fishing and oil industries are dying, so let's vote for the party with the economic ideology that kills dying industries and that has mismanaged our oil resources for years. What a crying shame.
These poor people are being deceived, and it's really quite depressing. Attacking the CFP and rallying behind ignorant fishers was just another tactic by the Leave campaign. They played it smartly, they knew most people know even less about the CFP than the EU, and so it was an area where the EU was an easy target to demonise and gain more sympathy for the Leave camp.
Don't expect any reasonable thinking from these people. The issue with Britain selling off their own fishing quotas is an UK issue, not an EU issue. You can see the UK's detailed breakdown of how the overall UK TAC (total allowable catch) set by the CFP here:
www.gov.uk/government/publications/fisheries-quota-allocation-2014
That's managed and allocated by the UK government, so if large vessels are quota-hopping in UK waters and buying up large quotas, it's because the UK government allows it, not the EU. One would assume these people would be informed about their industry, unfortunately the ignorance is strong on this one. Its like these farmers voting leave and crying later about the loss of funding from EU.
That's a really good point man.
It is very sad, they are being lead by the nose to the destruction of their own industry. Gove is lying to them, and Wood is lying to them.
There is also an other reason.
That the Mr Ian (oil is running out) Wood 2014 and the same SIR Ian Wood 2016, the same Ian Wood who has an interested in Scottish fishing.
And Aberdeen oil and gas billionaire Sir Ian Wood still has a strong foothold in the family’s original fishing business.
Their family firm JW Holdings hold one per cent of the UK’s fishing quota (83,463 FQAs) and minority investments in businesses/partnerships with a further 2.3 per cent.
Tories are looking after themselves. with huge fishing interests. Fishermen seem ignorant to being stung by this crew of liars and con men.
Anyway soon gonna be more plastic and rubbish in the sea than fishes....
SNP has promised Scotlands Fish to France !!
No, they have promised the fishermen that they would get a voice at the table, instead of a Lord from the HOL who hasn't a clue what they need.
Where's Nicola Sturgeon?
Isn't that a Russian fish?
Where do you expect the Scottish First Minister to be?
ok
Why didn't he ask the young guy with a hood who would vote for? He seemed politically interested too. Funny you can't find a single Labour Supporter mate!
Paterleano funny how Scotland only voted in one Labour seat mate
Let's boot the Tories out! JC4PM
That would be nice.......but England votes Tory, so unless you can change that.
Corbyn is not getting in
Daft comment
This expired fast
"that the SNP are somehow obsessed with independence"
It's their purpose. What's the purpose of the other parties?
And why did Ruth beat the Indy drum all through 2016/17?
(Project) Fear.
I think the point he's making is that the SNP don't appear to have much interest in anything other than independence, but if you're the majority party in a country you need to have some solutions to the day-to-day issues facing local people.
That Norwegian guy is cute and a bit flirty, I hope you hooked up
BE IN LONDON 11PM 29MARCH2019 PARLIAMENT. numbers count gilets jauns......
full brexit.......all UK fishing waters belongs to we, the people/fisherman.
Scotland has huge fishing rights but EU takes all of it. The SNP just want to give to right back to EU. It is Scotish and UK waters. SNP doesn't want Independence they want EU rule.
The U.K. government distribute the fish quota
People are thick.
Traductor🤡🤡🤡🤡
Vote tory get fish ! now there's a laugh .
The SNP have done sweet F A for the north east of Scotland .They deserved to lose the seats up there
if they go to torry all the way , they might as well buy locks to close down the shops that remained
British territorial waters British fishermen
The EU has not been good for these East Coast Scottish fishing towns and villages. The quotas imposed have ripped the heart and soul out of these communities and not a few have become crime and drug ravaged wastelands from the hardships that have resulted. Anti-E.U. feeling and wanting 'oot' is only too justifiable. The SNP used to do well in these areas but their comparatively recently adopted Europhilia isn't exactly going to endear them. Never really strong Labour areas, UKIP are seen as too English and helps explain why there's been a Tory revival.
A generation or two ago, the Tories were pretty much the party of choice for working class Protestant Unionists in the central belt. They shifted en masse to Labour and even now with a leader associated with Irish republican sympathies, the Tories haven't made much inroads there. If anything with many of Irish Catholic extraction defecting to the SNP, it wouldn't be stretching it to say that they've become Labour's core vote in certain constituencies in and around Glasgow. Would account for some Labour elected representatives going out of their way to ingratiate themselves with the Orange Order.
I'm speaking as an old Labour ardent Brexiteer. Shame there's not as many as there should be amongst Labour electoral candidates and maybe if there was,the political landscape of the East coast would have turned red rather than blue.
That the Mr Ian (oil is running out) Wood 2014 and the same SIR Ian Wood 2016, the same Ian Wood who has an interested in Scottish fishing.
And Aberdeen oil and gas billionaire Sir Ian Wood still has a strong foothold in the family’s original fishing business.
Their family firm JW Holdings hold one per cent of the UK’s fishing quota (83,463 FQAs) and minority investments in businesses/partnerships with a further 2.3 per cent.
Hmmm wonder if this is anything to do with it....and NOT EU.
The SNP ARE NOT falling in Scotland. They will still win almost all the seats. You're just hoping they don't. The only reason Conservatives are getting more votes is the falling Labour vote.
"The SNP ARE NOT falling in Scotland" In every measurable way they are failing them. Important nationalism for the peasants.
Falling in the polls, not failing. I don't know about how they are actually performing, just the polls.
Lol 21 lost seats in the election isn’t failing to you what a thicket
@@gregcanning1494 Tell me how the SNP are at all an effective force for the left in the general elections. Scotland is basically Tory. As long as Scotland is SNP we'll always have a Tory prime minister.
and dark money - which we can't get an answer too.
YOU MEAN THAT THERE IS STILL BOATS AND PLANES FLYING I SURE THAT'S A SURPRISE TO ALL THE MOANERS.
Because they are the party for the 55%
Ginger in Hell
Yet can't get more than 25% of the vote.
Mabye Ruth should try a different shade of orange?
And now they’re gone again
why do poor people vote tory
Because they reckon that if they vote scotland into the blue, that they will suddenly become upper class & wealthy!
Because they don't check their banks.......
Vote Tory get more fish ? Ha Ha what with WTO tariffs added
Scotland is Tory again. Thanks SNP!
Tories are on 25 seats - SNP 45 seats. Labour 19 seats - Your talking nonsense.
Labour party’s spring conference in Dundee this weekend, show that donations declined by almost 77 % in 2018 compared with the year before.
“The party’s position on Brexit is failing Labour’s core support” Labour source They totalled just £35,555 compared to £152,690 in 2017, contributing to a 65 per cent fall in income that drove the party £32,452 into the red at the end of 2018.
The party said the decline could be explained by the fact that there was no election campaign last year, but insiders said donors were “deserting in their droves” due to the party’s Brexit stance.
SNP BTFO!!!! LABOUR BTFO!!!!! STURGEON BTFO!!!! UNIONIST SURGE!!!! SCOTLAND FOREVER!!!!! BRITISH EMPIRE 2.0 WHEN???????? INDIA BELONGS TO US YAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VOTE UKIP!!
sadly vote ukip get labour
Are you for real? Farage was on the fucking Fisheries Committee and he only turned up to 2 out of 42 meetings. UKIP don't give a fuck about you lot.
Aran hiwa I'm laughing really hard
Rory Angott bad bait