How to Build Long Basement Walls Correctly In 1 Section (EVEN 50' WALLS!)
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This Video...How to Build Long Basement Walls Correctly In 1 Section (EVEN 50' WALLS!)...will show you how to build long, straight, beautiful perfect walls in one long section. Great Basement framing tips and tricks in this video. ~Eddie
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Used all your videos to finish my basement - turned out great! Thank you!!
Awesome Scott! I'm proud of you brother...I know that you're enjoying that new Space down there! Thanks for watching!
~Eddie
My wife caught me watching your videos. Now I have to finish my basement! Dammit, Eddie!! The upside is you have a good, easy to grasp teaching method. I appreciate that. I just finished your 6 part basement framing series. Pure gold. I finished the basement in my first house about 15 years ago and I wish I would have had the knowledge then I possess now. It would have saved me so much time. Thanks, Eddie!
Thanks for watching Michael! Good luck with the new project...I'm here if you need me for anything brother. ~Eddie
For me, the main question that should be answered in this video is WHAT DO YOU DO AT EACH 16 FT SECTION? Did you stagger the top and bottom joint? Did you join the sections with something?
We double up and nail the wall sections together completely up and down the walls section end studs...the plates then do not need to be actually connected to one another when you do it this way...it's much stronger wall too.
@@BasementFinishingMan thanks a bunch for the explanation.
exactly that's what my question was!
@Basement Finishing Man too bad you didn't show it? The only reason I watched this video.
Beautifully done. Huge wall! And I think you are totally correct - one nice long wall will make it look better when finished with drywall. That had to be heavy! Good thing you had a lot of help!
It's a looooong wall Tim! We usually would put it up in three separate 16' sections, but for this video to prove my point we did the entire 50' section at once. Thanks for watching. ~Eddie
You have a real knack for explaining this work Eddie! You're a damn good man!
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Thanks Jared!
Great video!
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"I love the smell of gunpowder in the summer"...Lol... An awesome tool Larry for sure! ~Eddie
Ramset vs using tap cons?
@@pryme2013 Ramset 100%! ~Eddie
Ramset is hecking awesome. So fast and easy to use
Gabe McKay don’t forget the glorious smell of gun powder!
Looks like you have some good guys there...They're like hens teeth here...Nice job.
I've been a basement renovator since the 80's...Back in the early days we used nothing but steel...Here are some tricks to keep it straight and fly the wall on long runs...
1) snap your line for plate and header, also snap a red reference line somewhere on the project end to end and 6-8-10 an intersecting square line... The reference lines will save your butt many times...
2) run metal track for plate and header, cut your wood studs to fit between them - You get a bit of fudging for those parts of the floor that are wavy...The nice thing about running track for the plate and header is You use shears and some screws and you can pin up 10 feet at a time...always stagger one or the other ...Also it makes nice straight soffitts
3) We made soffitts in residential and commercial by snapping a line, set a track, screw a piece of drywall 4 inches deeper than we need, screw a stud or track to the back, level, cut off the extra, put a plate on the wall connect them with sheetrock...Soffitts in minutes..
Hi Rob! Yes my guys are hard working and very dedicated men...I love these guys!
I used to do a lot of commercial work back in the day, I was Local Union 287 (Carpenters) for about 8 years, and we did a ton of metal stud work...more than I care to remember actually! It's horse of a different color and with that, it has it's own set of rules and techniques that you need to learn correctly. But in the end, you will get the same results, and metal is a lot faster to work with and metal is always straighter to work with...But I'm still a "wood-guy" at heart!
Thanks for watching my brother and for your ideas! ~Eddie
@@BasementFinishingMan Never met an Eddie I didn't like...:)...That says a lot for the Name...Edward And Robert are strong names with our Ancestors...:)...Good health and freedom to you and yours...:)
ROB-IN-PHILLY Same for you my friend...thanks for tuning-in!
Down south here in Texas you rarely find a home with a basement. I’m jealous!
Well that's just not fair!
Hi Eddie! Thanks for all the videos. Question: My top and bottom plates are 12’. I do have one basement wall that is about 40ish feet. To join each section can instill double them up together?
When connecting the two sections together to make the 50ft wall can you show a video or how the studs are laid out.
When building on an uneven concrete basement floor and the wall ends up being out 1” from one side to the other over 9’, would you then build you wall by installing the top and bottom plates then cut the studs to fit instead of building the wall on the floor and standing it in place? I believe in your video you said a 1/2” was ok but not sure that you would shim a wall over an 1” gap at the top plate.
Thanks any advice would be very appreciated.
We live in NE PA. Does PA require vertical and/or horizontal fire brakes behind the outside walls you erect? Seems like at least some locals require drywall or wood fireblock horizontal at top of wall and every 10 feet vertically (usually pressure treated 2x4s). Thanks
I need to build a wall out of 2x3s. I can't find a 2x3 pressure treated for a base plate since it will be on concrete. Do I need to rip a 2x4 pressure treated down or do you have another idea for me.
My favorite video!!!!
Hi Terry! We miss you guys! Hope you’re all doing well. Does that wall look familiar to you?
What is the purpose of putting a wall up? the the superior wall system you can run wire and plumbing and put drywall right against.
Superior Walls are not good for basement finishing despite what the manufacturer tells us! 2' centers, no inside or outside corners pre-framed for drywall, Usually not plumb at all nor set straight...the list goes on... Not a fan and have never used this wall system as the backbone of my framing. ~Eddie
Ok. Great video but what do where two top plates coming together? Say two 2x4x8 do u split then on a stud or double the stud?
I have superior walls for my basement as well and plan to finish soon. I'm curious why you didn't drywall directly to them since that is what the metal studs are for. Have you run into issues doing that?
I knew you would ask this...everybody does!
We don't use them because:
* they have no continuous bottom plate
* they are 24" on center (to far apart)
* they are usually not straight walls (set with a crane in large sections and bolted together)
* No inside or outside corner studs for drywall!
* and on-and-on...!
Just a few of the reasons we don't use them as our framing structure.
Eddie
Hey, so how do you connect those two 16' plates sections at the break - do you have studs next to each other and then you naili them vertically together up the studs?
What should I do about uneven ceiling floor joist in basement the ceiling is 50ft with no obstruction.
how are you tying the 16' segments together? Do you just nail the kind studs on the end of the segments into each other? Is that the correct way to do it? Would that method be ok for an exterior wall of a house?
We just nail the end studs of each section together...but just remember to keep the stud layout 16" on center when you layout your plates form wall section to wall section.
Eddie
@@BasementFinishingMan ok thanks. I guess that would be ok for interior walls. I'll probably do a staggered joint for exterior walls. Seems like that's recommended.
How do I add only like 6 inches to a corner . Also why do you put 3 pecies of 2x4 every 16 ft?
Can you put drywall straight to the superior wall metal studs?
I see when you lift the wall in place, there is no fire blocking pre installed on the floor joists. I’ve seen contractors fasten a perimeter strip of OSB or drywall from the foundation wall out about 6 inches. Then you shoot your top plate through the OSB or drywall into the joists. I guess this seals off the wall cavities from the joists cavities. Is this not a requirement in your area? Thanks for all your helpful videos!
We fire-block with ROXUL insulation barriers during the insulation stage if it's required by local codes. Some ares in which we service do not require Fire-stopping/Fire-blocking per local code.
This Video...How to Build Long Basement Walls Correctly In 1 Section (EVEN 50' WALLS!)...will show you how to build long, straight, beautiful perfect walls in one long section. Great Basement framing tips and tricks in this video. ~Eddie
Hi Eddie, thanks for all the great videos you put up. What I did not see on your video is how to join the 16 foot plates to one another. As well, what are those metal looking dividers for?
Thanks for sharing your knowledge!!
Sam Ruales I’m thinking he just nailed those flat ends to each other. I also wonder what those metal “studs” were?
@@samruales Hi Sam! We just nail the end studs on each wall directly to next wall for a seamless/strong tie-in from wall section to wall section...
How did u connect the 16 foot pieces together end to end?
I am trying to frame a wall but I have a supporting steel column just two feet away from the wall in the very middle of it. The wall is only 21feet long and I have no clue how to make this as a single wall, because the steel column is in the way and won’t be able to build it on the floor without trapping the column.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Hey I’m a member of BFU, but in all the wall framing videos I don’t see an example of how to fasten to 16ft plates together if the wall is over 16ft.
You just put a stud on the end of each wall section you are joining together as normal, and then nail the two end studs together and your all set! The plates are not actually connected, the 2" x 4" studs on the ends do the connecting! ~Eddie
Basement Finishing Man awesome thanks, starting my project this fall.
@@BasementFinishingMan just what I was looking for thanks
Do you like Paslode guns in a basement or do the fumes get to be too much?
Hello Hugh! You hit the nail on the head brother... No I do not like smelling that gas cartridge gas all day, bad for your health too.
~Eddie
Great video Eddie. Do you double up studs over the joints or do you split a stud over the joints?
We double up and nail the wall sections together completely up and down the walls section end studs...the plates then do not need to be actually connected to one another when you do it this way...it's much stronger wall too.
Basement Finishing Man thank you
@@mrmarkfive Your welcome brother!
Love all your videos that I have watched so far. Very good, useful content that will help me DIY much of my basement finishing project.
Question about the wall sections though. When doing the long wall, do you not splice the joints between the 16’ plates to hold the sections together and stiffen them? I will have a 52’ wall on one side of my basement to do.
What is the reason the treated plate is away from wall? Instead of pulling and raising the wall, isn't easy to lift up if the bottom treated plate is started near the wall? Am I missing something here?
What is holding the bottom plates together every 16 feet?
Do the building codes not require to put plastic between the concrete and bottom plate to prevent capillary action with moisture?
Not needed when using treated lumber as your bottom plate Richard. No it’s not required anywhere that I know about. Eddie
How about walls with spray foam insulation? How far from the foundation do you build the wall?
Hi Martin! I would do the exact same distancing for both fiberglass and spray foam.. ~Eddie
How did you connect one 16 foot 2× to the next?
How much did u charge to build this wall this big ?
What do you do if you can only get 8 foot sections in your basement?
I was watching this but did not see how you secured the wall sections together. Is it just a coincidence that you have interior wall blocking every 16 feet or is that how you joined them?
What do you do where the plates meet? Are you building the walls in the sections that your top and bottom plate fit and then connecting each section to make it a single unit?
Yes correct...while keeping the 16" O.C. layout of the wall studs continuous. ~Eddie
@@BasementFinishingMan thank you. I'm building a 10x24 room inside of my building and two of the walls won't be touching existing walls so I was curious how to go about it.....I had thought of cutting 3 in off my studs and doubling the bottom and top plates, swapping the side the 16 is on. Your way is farrrr better 😅
I'm starting tomorrow in my basement. I'm gonna get a jack hammer first and move the roughing plumbing away from the cinder block walls coz we have it right up against it and I can't frame behind the toilet.
I have a question. There is a backdoor to the basement that has steps on the other side that lead up to the backyard. Right on the outside of this door (at the landing of the exterior stairs) there is a drain which is weird coz it takes for ever for it to drain and I tried to snake it but the snake only goes in so much then just stops. I was gonna open up the concrete and see where the plumbing is clogged and replace the pipes but now I'm thinking that maybe it's not even connected to the plumbing. Is there such thing as pit drain where the water just seeps in the ground? Is it a smart idea to break the concrete open. I have never made a hole in the slab before.
It's "French Drain" most likely and that means they just made a pit and filled it with crushed stone that water will slow sift down into...that's probably why it drains so slowly. ~Eddie
@@BasementFinishingMan thanks
@@sherlockholmes6956 Your welcome my brother.
I can't believe how thurough these videos are. When I'm done being furloughed I am going to purchase your course online. I have a 1/4 basement with a small footprint. I want to frame and drywall it without closing it in. Can I frame with 2x3's or just stick to the traditional way. Just trying to utilize as much space as possible. Also the walls are cinder block with zero signs of moisture, what insulation do you recommend? Thanks in advance.
Hello! R-13 Fiberglass or ROXUL wall insulation...either work great and are what we're currently using. Thanks for watching brother! ~Eddie
@@BasementFinishingManthanks! so what about framing with 2x3's would you do it?
poofy ernesto Never...always 2” x 4”
@@BasementFinishingMan thanks brutha!
I forgot to ask if you would recommend putting up a vapor barrier on the brick wall before walls and insulation?
The question I have is when doing the extra long wall like this, when you get to the end of your upper and lower plates, do you double up the stud or do you split the stud with the plates?
We double-up! Stronger union is made this way.
Eddie
@@BasementFinishingMan your videos are totally saving my project, thank you so much! However I’m not tracking on this piece. Are we staggering the plates or is it just 16’ sections nailed together at the end, or does doubling up mean joining the plates with a piece of 2x4 like they are kind of sistered up for short span? Thanks for everything, these videos are fantastic!
@@atlasbaja Yes your nailing full 16' sections together, but you're also carrying the 16" layout over from the 1st section to the 2nd section and then to the 3rd section and so-on. You can not just make a bunch of 16' wall sections and simply nail them together as you would lose the 16" layout if you did it that way. I hope that make sense to you... ~Eddie
How to connect the sections? Toe nail?
Do you do basement layout ? Thank you
On my Jobs...yes.
I live in Massachusetts can you do? I saw in ur Facebook basement university that you can do through phone is that possible?
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How many framing nails can you fire on one battery with those guns?
About a half a box or 1,200 nails...pretty good actually! ~Eddie
@@BasementFinishingMan cool thanks! Have you used the Milwaukee fuel one it looks nice too
Mr M no have not...looks like a nice gun though.
Whats that foam wall system that's inplace before your wall?
The Foam is actually part of a pre-manufactued basement foundation wall system called Superior Walls. The Metal strip are actually wall studs built into each separate superior wall panel. We will insulate our new framed exterior walls as well once the basement has been completely framed...check them out here>>>> www.superiorwalls.com/
@@BasementFinishingMan why not just use the metal studs to hang the drywall as they were intended?
@@shammer3040 Metal studs are not best for residential construction methods...metal is commercial and that's where is should stay.
Curious, are you insulating just in your wood framing or do you insulate the superior wall cavity and wood framing?
How do you attach the top plate to the top to secure it, if parts of the wall have gaps at the top?
You add wood blocks at the top so you have something to mail into. -Eddie
@@BasementFinishingMan How so? I have a floor joist going straight the same way as the wall is going and I made it too short and just can't figure it out?
@@bryceheap3777 Watch these 6 videos czcams.com/video/zSkdOUmwmgc/video.html and you will understand how to do it fully by the time your done with this framing series I guarantee it! Eddie
What if you have trees not flooring joist lol
Except that you didn't say HOW to build a long wall! How do you connect between the 16' sections? Never covered that!
why are you doing this ? superior walls have built in metal studs !