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  • From poaching endangered shellfish to smoking quaaludes, this is the wild origin story of how meth took over South Africa.
    The use of meth, known as Tik, has skyrocketed across South Africa. It's thought that the country might have one of the highest per-capita rates of crystal meth use on earth.
    But the wildest twist in the tale is that this may have been ultimately caused by a secret weapons program run by the old apartheid regime itself.
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    00:55 What is Tik?
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  • @VICE
    @VICE  Před rokem +36

    *WATCH NEXT* ➡The Craziest Ways Cartels Traffic Drugs - czcams.com/video/kSNYzTwyqaE/video.html

    • @cbryce9243
      @cbryce9243 Před rokem +4

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    • @commentcraftsman
      @commentcraftsman Před rokem

      ​@@cbryce9243 😂😂

    • @jodymahoneyfromillinois
      @jodymahoneyfromillinois Před 9 měsíci +2

      So very sad 😔

  • @morseemily
    @morseemily Před 19 dny +225

    Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.

    • @APOLLINAIREBARTHOLOMIEU
      @APOLLINAIREBARTHOLOMIEU Před 19 dny

      Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Australia. Really need!

    • @Jennifer-bw7ku
      @Jennifer-bw7ku Před 19 dny

      Yes, dr.sporessss I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.

    • @IkamiLog
      @IkamiLog Před 19 dny

      I wish they were readily available in my place.
      Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac.
      He's constantly talking about killing someone.
      He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.

    • @APOLLINAIREBARTHOLOMIEU
      @APOLLINAIREBARTHOLOMIEU Před 19 dny

      Is he on instagram?

    • @Jennifer-bw7ku
      @Jennifer-bw7ku Před 19 dny

      Yes he is. dr.sporessss

  • @CristiandlfDeval
    @CristiandlfDeval Před 26 dny +87

    I started doing drugs since my teenage, got addicted to cocaine. Spent my whole life fighting cocaine addiction. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 6 years totally clean. Much respect to mother nature the great magic shrooms.

    • @nicholda436
      @nicholda436 Před 26 dny +1

      Congrats on your recovery. Most persons never realizes psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives. Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here.

    • @SandraJulia-lw3kd
      @SandraJulia-lw3kd Před 26 dny +1

      Can you help me with the reliable source 🙏. I'm 56 and have suffered for years with addiction, anxiety and severe ptsd, I got my panic attacks under control myself years ago and they have come back with a vengeance, I'm constantly trying to take full breaths but can't get the full satisfying breath out, it's absolutely crippling me, i live in Austria. I don't know much about these mushrooms. Really need a reliable source!! Can't wait to get them.

    • @mattjeffery09
      @mattjeffery09 Před 26 dny +2

      YES very sure of Dr.benfungi. I have the
      same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.

    • @FredaMartins
      @FredaMartins Před 26 dny

      Ive done shrooms last month in my house. It taught me how severely traumatized I was from alcohol. I healed from many mental traumas from my past and was able to forgive, let go. Shrooms to me is a remedy not a vice. I even felt more refreshed the
      morning after. So no hangovers. No
      depression mood for days. No anxiety.I now
      have a more calm mind

    • @RobertaSandra-no3dy
      @RobertaSandra-no3dy Před 26 dny

      How do i find him? Is he on instgram

  • @b.l.o.c.k.6648
    @b.l.o.c.k.6648 Před rokem +1525

    So incredibly gut wrenching hearing Hamilton tell the guy with the blood in his urine that it’s known to cause bladder cancer 😞

    • @alex.104
      @alex.104 Před rokem +73

      Ngl it's kind of deserved if he is making the drugs that are fucking up people's lives.

    • @ilikelittlejimmys
      @ilikelittlejimmys Před rokem +174

      @@alex.104 he's most likely just cooking it up for himself. It's cheaper that way.

    • @MrPaparabit
      @MrPaparabit Před rokem +245

      @@alex.104 highly recommend watching that episode of Hamiltons Pharmacopeia before you judge him. yes the drug he is cooking kills but please know what you are talking about before you talk about it. their economic and educational situation are large factors into his decision.

    • @DingleTerry
      @DingleTerry Před rokem

      @@alex.104 People that produce/supply drugs shouldn't have consequences like these..it's the person buying the drug that wants it afterall..These drug dealers are just giving the people what they want, and clearly if you want meth you are a low life so the client buying is just as scummy as whose selling

    • @yeahokay3806
      @yeahokay3806 Před rokem +170

      @@alex.104 Very childish take

  • @emperorofpluto
    @emperorofpluto Před rokem +504

    Used to take Mandrax and Quaaludes a lot in my teens and 20s (I'm 54) and tbh methaqualone is infinitely more pleasurable than alcohol. Not hard to see why they were so popular - you'd get this warm, euphoric relaxation - like being drunk but without the unpleasant effects of drunkenness. They lasted maybe four to six hours with no hangover.
    Mandrax was the trade name for Quaalude in the UK, South Africa, Australia, Asia. After Methaqualone was banned there was Doriden, (Glutetimide) which had the exact same effects but was banned by the late 1980s. Nowadays the closest thing is probably GHB, which feels very similar (except GHB makes people a lot hornier than Quaaludes ever did)
    Interesting origin story: Quaalude was developed to allow doctors in wartime to get short periods of sleep but to be able to function if they had to be woken up, which was not remotely possible with barbiturates, chloral hydrate, or bromides - the other sleep drugs around at the time.

    • @RAJohnson713
      @RAJohnson713 Před rokem +5

      Can you still buy real Mandrax in SA?

    • @stephenc4755
      @stephenc4755 Před rokem +19

      @@RAJohnson713 no not usually 90 percent is faked

    • @stephenc4755
      @stephenc4755 Před rokem

      @@RAJohnson713 and if its faked it can have terrible by products of making methaqualone

    • @Sniperboy5551
      @Sniperboy5551 Před rokem +24

      Quaaludes are definitely on my to-do list… now I guess I just gotta go to SA

    • @shadowX9365
      @shadowX9365 Před rokem +7

      im 22 and i agree theyre great i use to do like 1200mg at atime !! seconal was my fav tho

  • @neoncore7346
    @neoncore7346 Před rokem +710

    that one guy realizing he had bladder cancer in real time was insane

    • @florenciovillarreal6736
      @florenciovillarreal6736 Před rokem +48

      The way dude told him showed his privilege he must think, "oh he can just go get it checked out and the docs will treat it"

    • @florenciovillarreal6736
      @florenciovillarreal6736 Před rokem +27

      Sad tbh he will prob go out like that

    • @cherishireland9194
      @cherishireland9194 Před rokem

      These people are so desperate to make money they kill themselves, the planet and the neighborhood to do it. It's sad there isn't more love out there and public education and funding for these people to find their purpose.

    • @commonflip1474
      @commonflip1474 Před rokem +16

      Damn that's just from the fumes crazy

    • @giftoflife365
      @giftoflife365 Před rokem +12

      He thought it was methenvitamin

  • @rayslife4k
    @rayslife4k Před rokem +158

    Today I found a bag of meth after two years of being sober. I was holding onto that baggie for two hours, and then I threw it out the window. I’m getting more strong minded. Can’t believe I didn’t smoke that free man I did good.

    • @corvoattano4777
      @corvoattano4777 Před rokem +21

      bingo dude. You are extremely strong i wish you all the best in your struggle against meth

    • @dogmosatchmo
      @dogmosatchmo Před rokem +7

      Definitely did good. I'm rooting for you man!!!

    • @saturn1returns
      @saturn1returns Před rokem +6

      Well done champion!

    • @rayslife4k
      @rayslife4k Před rokem +7

      Omg thank u guys

    • @chino3796
      @chino3796 Před rokem +12

      Dude, that is amazing! Mark this day as one where you didn't even get in the ring with your enemy. Just walked away like a boss.

  • @GoblinatingGoblinator
    @GoblinatingGoblinator Před rokem +101

    Was so happy to see Hamilton back even for just an instant, I'll keep waiting to see more from him, literally the only reason I check on vice every now and then.

    • @suezcontours6653
      @suezcontours6653 Před rokem

      The West is working overtime to dismantle South Africa right now because of the Russia CHina military drill. Not so subtle at all

    • @hanktrill
      @hanktrill Před rokem +1

      SAME

    • @oliverhorgs2298
      @oliverhorgs2298 Před rokem +4

      @PascualFrancisco Hamilton quit working for vice. He has a CZcams channel and a patreon podcast where he's been regularly uploading

    • @GoblinatingGoblinator
      @GoblinatingGoblinator Před rokem +1

      @@oliverhorgs2298 oh thank you, didn't know this info

    • @oliverhorgs2298
      @oliverhorgs2298 Před rokem +2

      @@GoblinatingGoblinator no worries man :) it's all great stuff hamilton's been hitting his stride lately

  • @etumelengmogale6561
    @etumelengmogale6561 Před rokem +565

    As a South African I can confirm that this is very accurate. Also, there is a drug, which I believe is unique to South Africa, called Nyaope. This drug is ravaging our youth and it has spred like wildfire

    • @benygames7399
      @benygames7399 Před rokem +73

      Nah I’m pretty like 99% sure that the drug is a mixture between heroin and some other things and is usually smoked

    • @trod5902
      @trod5902 Před rokem +77

      Nyaope is low grade heroin mixed with other drugs

    • @mustymk4754
      @mustymk4754 Před rokem +33

      Tik is chowing way more people here than Nyaope bru

    • @benygames7399
      @benygames7399 Před rokem +14

      @@mustymk4754 define chowing

    • @disvet-1ad291
      @disvet-1ad291 Před rokem +13

      @@trod5902 nyaope is a mixture of heroin and dagga of which has effects on the physiological and psychological being of individuals taking or using the drug.

  • @the501legion2
    @the501legion2 Před rokem +115

    Vice goes crazy with these

    • @dontjudge1358
      @dontjudge1358 Před rokem +1

      It says there are 3 replies but I only see your comment huh???

    • @lassaut6794
      @lassaut6794 Před rokem

      @@dontjudge1358 jooto0b keeping the szensor ship afloat.

  • @ssylbi
    @ssylbi Před rokem +63

    Im 20yrs of meth user from malaysia but now im already stop taking or using any drugs. Nomore to Meth😌

  • @DogMemes86
    @DogMemes86 Před rokem +2

    Thank you guys, thats what im waiting for. Great work!

  • @ghostly265
    @ghostly265 Před rokem +169

    Drugs are the easiest escape from reality which is the sad world we live in

  • @WolfgangKaiser-if2wr
    @WolfgangKaiser-if2wr Před 4 měsíci +150

    I remember several years ago I suffered from severe depression and mental disorder. I was addicted to illicit pills, alcohol, and smoking until I was recommended for psilocybin mushroom treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly I'm 8 years clean now. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against anxiety and depression.

    • @halllauren8879
      @halllauren8879 Před 4 měsíci +1

      To be honest, mushrooms are one of the most amazing things on the planet and it is natural, they serve in many ways not only for mental related issues.

    • @Francesca-hm1yb
      @Francesca-hm1yb Před 4 měsíci

      Can you help me with a reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. It is very hard to get a reliable source here in New Zealand. Really need!

    • @GordanaRadulovic-ci4jt
      @GordanaRadulovic-ci4jt Před 4 měsíci +2

      Yes, Sporeville. I had the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD, and addiction... Mushrooms definitely made a huge difference to why I'm clean today.

    • @KathrineKassandra
      @KathrineKassandra Před 4 měsíci

      I wish they were readily available in my place.
      Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He's 59 & has many mental health issues plus probably CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone.
      He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD knows if it is common for an obsession with violence.

    • @Francesca-hm1yb
      @Francesca-hm1yb Před 4 měsíci

      Is he on Instagram?

  • @Estorium
    @Estorium Před rokem +81

    As a South African, the presenter's pronunciation of Wouter Basson and Tik is hilarious.

    • @Ash-to1gp
      @Ash-to1gp Před rokem +4

      So funny

    • @OGxLOOYxDANK
      @OGxLOOYxDANK Před rokem

      so funny

    • @hikikomori7
      @hikikomori7 Před rokem +5

      Ja, to hear Abalone pronounced correctly several times throughout the video and then butcher it with abaloney is beyond me 🤣

    • @volk779
      @volk779 Před rokem

      Who runs South Africa organized crime scene? Serious crime groups there??

    • @foxinafrica
      @foxinafrica Před rokem

      and 'abaloney'

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks Před rokem +5

    Super informative video. Keep up the good work.

  • @MadMrMatter
    @MadMrMatter Před rokem +22

    Dude, Hamilton is a. DAWG. chilling in those south African trap houses lmao

  • @KaleighMacKay
    @KaleighMacKay Před rokem +151

    Wow, you know it’s a bad deal when ur getting paid in drugs not money.

    • @mosadon8130
      @mosadon8130 Před rokem +18

      Thats what im saying kinda like here in the u.s our government distributes and crowd controls drugs here as well

    • @MSL72
      @MSL72 Před rokem +8

      Check out Kensington, PA… also Phoenix, AZ… same thing. Basically free 😢

    • @miner2119
      @miner2119 Před rokem

      They would rather get paid in drugs. They make way more money off it than just straight-up currency

    • @notsoberoveranalyzer8264
      @notsoberoveranalyzer8264 Před rokem

      @@mosadon8130 To a certain degree.
      Not sure if you’ve ever gotten the opportunity to travel or if you’ve lived elsewhere.
      But sadly, it’s not really that controlled by the government as much as id wish it to be so.
      ( As, at least then there would be some answers, something to blame as well as an easy fix.)
      I bring up being out of country, purely because it tends to give a better perspective.

    • @Ryan88881
      @Ryan88881 Před rokem +4

      That's not how that works... Getting paid in drugs almost ALWAYS means both the person with the drugs and the person getting them are getting a better deal out of it. Getting paid in drugs is always the better deal.

  • @FreddyKruegerLiveReactions

    That moment when the guy said that he didn't know it caused bladder cancer was heartbreaking 💔

    • @PranaChi369
      @PranaChi369 Před 11 měsíci

      Should assume it does something to something in your body

  • @keagantrowe8475
    @keagantrowe8475 Před rokem +8

    As a South African, worth highlighting that “Dr Death” was in 2021 still practicing medicine in Cape Town, South Africa.

  • @orasohum
    @orasohum Před rokem +189

    I have a friend who's now severely addicted to meth. I've seen him fall deeper & deeper and he's become such a consistent liar, all for the love of the drug. I've had to cut contact with him after 10 years of friendship because he tried to get me involved with it as well. He's lost all respect & I just know his story is not going to end well.

    • @kiwismurf4536
      @kiwismurf4536 Před rokem

      no one loves the drug, they become trapped and addicted and need it to be normal and thats were the issues start

    • @helloimclaudio
      @helloimclaudio Před rokem +41

      Try it before you judge, you might like it

    • @Thomk121
      @Thomk121 Před rokem +28

      Hopefully your friend can pull through. I was a heroin addict for 15 years. Been sober for 1 year now. There is hope for your friend. Maybe try and reach out and ask if he wants help every once and a while. Rehabs are everywhere, and most are free if you have govt insurance.

    • @colindixon9916
      @colindixon9916 Před rokem +25

      Don't turn ur back on them completely....make rules, red lines etc, but always leave a bit of hope with them. It could save their lives 🙏🤔🙏

    • @Ryan88881
      @Ryan88881 Před rokem +7

      @Will Rivers Normal people want average speed (amphetamine), not methamphetamine.

  • @bookofmillions
    @bookofmillions Před rokem +3

    Thank you, VICE! Very useful as always

  • @nadiahopekruger
    @nadiahopekruger Před rokem +2

    Thankyou. This is the best short yet supervpowerful documentary on RSA meth and mandy history and details that I've ever seen. Thankyou for your courage.

    • @suezcontours6653
      @suezcontours6653 Před rokem

      Why cheer this on? White people are confused as to why Africans don't trust them. This is the reason why. You love drama, China doesn't.

    • @Kdramahotgist
      @Kdramahotgist Před rokem

      ☝️☝️🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫💉💉💉💉💉💉🌿🍄🍄🍄🍄💊💊💊💊💊💊💊

  • @adamo3561
    @adamo3561 Před rokem +35

    Did meth once. Took me 12 years to completely get off it. What a trip

    • @chino3796
      @chino3796 Před rokem

      Several years ago I did crack for several weeks. I got sick of it and found it easy to quit. Like a relief not doing it or being involved with those people.

    • @jaycou7126
      @jaycou7126 Před rokem +2

      ​@@chino3796 was on Rocks for a period. Definitely the worst days of my life. Glad you quit.

    • @tommysherman7155
      @tommysherman7155 Před rokem +1

      That's because crack is not physically addictive it's just phycological addictive.
      No withdrawal symptoms whatsoever on crack

    • @jaycou7126
      @jaycou7126 Před rokem +1

      @@tommysherman7155 that drug was very hard to get off. The psychological part kicks in within 15 mins of your first hit. Here in SA they call it eat some more, cos 1 bite gets you coming back for more. 0 to street in 1 month cos the money goes straight to the crack pipe. Chino was fortunate, depending on how deeply addicted a person is ultimately dictates what the addicts behaviour might be such as what they are prepared to do to get their fix, or not. Never take your eye off a crackhead lol, peoples belongings tend to grow legs around them.

    • @tommysherman7155
      @tommysherman7155 Před rokem

      Not only is it not physically addictive just phycological addictive it's the only drug with no medicinal purposes as well.
      Weed for pain, mood, anxiety and depression, amphetamine for ADHD, Ecstasy LSD and magic mushrooms for anxiety and depression, ketamine for local anaesthetic before an operation and heroin/opioids is found in absolutely every hospital pharmacy in the world for pain, including quality of life pain and end of life care.
      Crack/cocaine has got no medical purposes whatsoever and is not physically addictive and has got zero withdrawal symptoms

  • @emperorofpluto
    @emperorofpluto Před rokem +59

    This insanity is the direct result of the war on drugs. Awesome video, outstanding journalism and it's always a pleasure to hear the wisdom of Hamilton Morris. Keep fighting the good fight.

    • @NoleInJax
      @NoleInJax Před rokem +4

      Lol you really think there is a war on drugs and not a war to control the drug trade?

    • @emperorofpluto
      @emperorofpluto Před rokem

      @@NoleInJax*"The War on Drugs" is official government policy that began under Richard Nixon and is still going on today. The only thing prohibition does is turn illegal drugs into profitable commodities, entrench police corruption and enrich organised crime*

    • @Sideshowmanatee
      @Sideshowmanatee Před rokem +11

      You must have missed the part about the Chinese exploiting poor South African fisherman…

    • @volk779
      @volk779 Před rokem

      @@Sideshowmanatee what you mean?

    • @shawnclifton7196
      @shawnclifton7196 Před rokem

      Only white people exploit just ask one of our multimillionaire nigs

  • @kimsherlock8969
    @kimsherlock8969 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for your time to inform me.

  • @WallyTony
    @WallyTony Před rokem +1

    Thanks Vice. By the end of this I was looking up tickets to go try to ludes.

  • @rustynuts89836
    @rustynuts89836 Před rokem +32

    I stupidly tried meth. Snorted it never smoked it. And I'm happy it never took control of me. It's been about 8 years since that sad day

    • @basilbyers5066
      @basilbyers5066 Před rokem +10

      Well, some of the Beatles wrote their best songs while on meth and a different formulation of it is prescribed and used to treat ADHD (and, for many, is super successful in doing so)
      So, while meth can and often does ruin lives, it has its uses and it can be used safely/more safely than is shown

    • @xxz1434
      @xxz1434 Před rokem +4

      @@basilbyers5066 Meth doesn't destroy lives, lack of self control does. Unfortunately most people lack it which makes meth dangerous.

    • @levymoyer507
      @levymoyer507 Před rokem +8

      @@basilbyers5066 you should be able to figure out the difference between amphetamine salts and methamphetamine. No one treats ADHD with methamphetamine. There's a brand name methamphetamine tablet called Desoxyn which is rare and mainly prescribed for narcolepsy. Changing a molecule on a chain to create an entirely different compound is not a "different formulation." That being said, ADHD meds are also not to be trifled with and have led more than one person (hand raised) to eventually try meth.

    • @seanthe100
      @seanthe100 Před rokem +1

      I ate meth for year, I smoked it first but for some reason I never got high did it a few times and nothing. Eating it was wild and awesome, I stopped doing it because I moved and it's been three years, snorting it burns like hell

    • @ianskeeyap6482
      @ianskeeyap6482 Před rokem +1

      @@xxz1434 👏👏👏 Thats the real truth understanding, whatever drug they call, coke, meth, blah blah blaahhh... Its Basic Simple .. . You can take/used but dont abuse it!!!
      ☺️☺️☺️

  • @bungaloboynes
    @bungaloboynes Před rokem +3

    Thanks vice this is not a new problem it's about time people started talking about it

  • @martelindbergsli9779
    @martelindbergsli9779 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Wow this situation and the history needs more attention!

  • @vitumbikoliomba
    @vitumbikoliomba Před rokem +1

    Yay! He's back.

  • @joeledwards6587
    @joeledwards6587 Před rokem +24

    As a south african, I can confirm this is prolific. There is a huge drug market here, khat, mdma, coke, rocks, mandrax etc etc. Its hectic

    • @Louthsk8er
      @Louthsk8er Před rokem +5

      I might holiday there to try the mandrax. hell id try the meth aswell

    • @mustymk4754
      @mustymk4754 Před rokem +1

      By khat you mean ket? As in ketamine? 😂

    • @steve-uc2mf
      @steve-uc2mf Před rokem +3

      @@mustymk4754its some obsure drug look it up

    • @tonyaparrish5678
      @tonyaparrish5678 Před rokem +1

      I've done meth it's only fun a bit then takes away all you love...adderall in high doses feel close to meth but if you go up remember you must come down. That part sucks

    • @hh-ck6ko
      @hh-ck6ko Před rokem +1

      Khat is barely a drug, it's basically like coffee, a mild stimulant. Try it if you can, it's really nice. Now cathinone derivatives are another beast entirely, chemically similar to it, but much much stronger stuff, usually labeled as "bath salts". Stay away from those if you can!

  • @javiermartinezjr8849
    @javiermartinezjr8849 Před rokem +36

    As soon as I see a broken beer bottle as a chillum I already know we're headed
    To south Africa lol

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer Před rokem +2

      Thanks for the new vocabulary word. 😳

    • @TWOhype23
      @TWOhype23 Před rokem +3

      @@grmpEqweer chillum? That’s a type of glass pipe

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer Před rokem +1

      @@TWOhype23
      Yeah. Google told me.
      I'm sort of glad I didn't know.

    • @javiermartinezjr8849
      @javiermartinezjr8849 Před rokem +4

      @@JJONNYREPP man I wish I remember his name,he was a German or Dutch scientist working for the apartheid government ,this man was a literal genius,well classified documents were leaked by an assistant or something along those lines,it completely outlays his thesis hypothesis and the changes of his plans. He talks about how in cattle and animals the there are chemicals spread or I'n prisons mixed into the food to create more docile humans or animals ,there test lvls would be an low, he wanted to find something like that for the water table ,government heard about his work and the steamrolled what would be now a billion dollars for him to come up with a poplar substance and or multiples that would render not the next but the babies of the next not prone to riot,and when or if they did,there bodies would be emaciated from lack of vitamins and drug abuse, it wanted a drug that would attack the nervous and the muscular system,the best drug suited for this was mandrax,basically a qualude, but one mandrax would be three to as much as ten times the amount of a legal qualude at the time and the difference is these could be smoked and or meant to be snorted
      Mandrax was first used and disguised as tear gas but to many people died from subsequent gassing governments got suspicious,they scrapped the program,but it runoroured that the scientist was alegedly incetivised by old apartheid political members in other countries or from the bush ,and the Chinese who provide chemicals for ir in exchange for wildlife seafood and ivory,rhino horn,hide,metals diamond etc,hell even weopans trade has flowed because of it
      It's really Nazi esque reading a government stamped textbook on how to subdue and litteraly said mentally and socially castrate a group of youth by there choice subconsciously trough some sort of contamination ,and the guy who was behind it or was paid arguably just to do his job ethical that's all relative imo but he is still alive he was going to be prosecuted at hague but that went away,you should look into it my brohter

    • @TWOhype23
      @TWOhype23 Před rokem +3

      @@grmpEqweer lol why? Afraid of a lil knowledge are ya?

  • @aptorres01
    @aptorres01 Před rokem

    Great video

  • @HighWindSailing
    @HighWindSailing Před rokem +1

    My favorite series on Vice.

  • @durpledorekapre3991
    @durpledorekapre3991 Před rokem +16

    Almost 3 years clean off meth

    • @kentneumann5209
      @kentneumann5209 Před rokem

      You'll be back. Otherwise that time wouldn't mean anything to you. And this video wouldn't have you clicking on it. It would be insignificant to you.
      Just remember to moderate, don't slam it, preferably eat it, and do regularly timed dosages.
      Like a doctor's script. 15 mg 3x a day worked for me. But that was Desoxyn. Street meth is a little more tricky to regulate dosage, but its doable.
      But, if you can't moderate, (you CAN, you're just not applying yourself) then I guess a lifetime without it is your lot.
      And you will have to go to a shrink and get properly diagnosed for the undiagnosed ADHD you have, and get a legal script for the much less effective Adderall or Vyvanse, etc.
      (Hold out for Desoxyn) But don't get your hopes up. Settle for modafinil.
      You'll be fine.

    • @durpledorekapre3991
      @durpledorekapre3991 Před rokem

      @@kentneumann5209 im almost a year off of alcohol too i have a choice to not do it again and i wont. Not sure if you're trying to be helpful or not. I know what im doing I dont need any guidance

  • @ClassWarVeteran
    @ClassWarVeteran Před rokem +35

    The only difference between the users in this story and suburban Xanax and adderall moms is mommy’s sense of superiority.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Před rokem

      That's an interesting stereotype. BTW, Lebanon, Palestinians, and other Arab countries are the big abusers of prescription pills with a distinct preference for anti-anxiety medicine.

    • @sbs3003ses
      @sbs3003ses Před rokem +3

      Whaaaa

    • @280SE
      @280SE Před rokem

      What a load of bollocks 😂

    • @BiancaBeauty690
      @BiancaBeauty690 Před rokem

      Ones an up ones a down big difference

    • @stehenbranton5447
      @stehenbranton5447 Před rokem

      💯Well said

  • @KimTulipFinlay
    @KimTulipFinlay Před rokem +1

    Totally missed this episode.

  • @aemeromedia
    @aemeromedia Před rokem

    good post!
    💪

  • @josephhall5884
    @josephhall5884 Před rokem +4

    If there is a connection with shellfish and narcotics that's crazy. No wonder Red Lobster stays crowded.

  • @petergambier
    @petergambier Před rokem +13

    What's so tragic is that the natural products like the shellfish and the plants will be over fished and collected until it's gone, and when it's gone, it's gone and won't be coming back.
    Also good was showing the clip of Hamilton telling the drug cook about his possible bladder cancer.

  • @vansoffthewall4763
    @vansoffthewall4763 Před rokem

    rainy day out here in Central VA.. i needed something to watch , so i choose ViCE! been awhile since ive watched ViCE 🤙🏾✌🏾❤️

  • @supersophisticated9943
    @supersophisticated9943 Před rokem +4

    The bladder cancer bit was super worrying..

  • @ParkBills
    @ParkBills Před 7 měsíci +118

    I suffered the borderline disorder for over 23 years. With so much anxietyNot until I came across psilocybin mushrooms treatmentPsilocybin treatment actually saved my life honestly. 6 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms

    • @BillySnyder-eq2he
      @BillySnyder-eq2he Před 7 měsíci +1

      Microdosing helped me get out of the pit of my worst depressive episode, a three year long episodeenough to start working on my mental health

    • @lucyjoseph7062
      @lucyjoseph7062 Před 7 měsíci

      Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate itMany people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Germany. Really need

    • @maryjohnny9920
      @maryjohnny9920 Před 7 měsíci

      Dr.raymycolx is your guy. Best
      shrooms and psychedelics guy I know

    • @acostasantiago3340
      @acostasantiago3340 Před 7 měsíci +1

      they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here. and mushrooms are one of the most amazing things on this planet i wish people would all realize. they could solve a lot of problems, more than just mental treatments, environmental clean up; the possibilities are endless with fungus

    • @brendanfisher9686
      @brendanfisher9686 Před 7 měsíci

      How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta

  • @slimlinedigitalmedia
    @slimlinedigitalmedia Před rokem +12

    A lot of videos about South Africa on Vice the last few weeks. Even though they might show the bad things happening here, we are still a wonderful country with a lot of good people.

  • @chadmcbride173
    @chadmcbride173 Před rokem +11

    As someone from South Africa that's been following the War on Drugs since the Krocodil episode, You should do a follow-up episode on one of the newer drugs in South Africa, everybody calls it Nyaope(Nee-yaa-oo-peh). It's like a cocktail drug of other drugs and a bunch of detergents and stuffs.

  • @wahid3837
    @wahid3837 Před rokem

    Yay Cape Town my home. Love the vice content lately

  • @turbolife5912
    @turbolife5912 Před rokem

    Love the do bro

  • @Estorium
    @Estorium Před rokem +11

    06:33 This is actually quite scary. It is easier to move drugs across borders than money. It makes sense, but is scary nonetheless.

  • @brianj6701
    @brianj6701 Před rokem +18

    Hamilton Morris did a great piece on this as well. Very well done.

  • @dietergen
    @dietergen Před rokem

    Can't wait to try it

  • @zadekeys2194
    @zadekeys2194 Před rokem +2

    As a South African, I've known about mandrax for many many years, but I never it was so similar to Quaaludes! Very interesting!!

    • @Kdramahotgist
      @Kdramahotgist Před rokem

      ☝️☝️🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫💉💉💉💉💉💉🌿🍄🍄🍄🍄

    • @joshua22267
      @joshua22267 Před rokem +1

      It's not similar. It is quaaludes. The only difference with mandrax is that they added diphenhydramine. Does anybody pop the mandrax down there or just smoke it. Why not pop it? I would rather get a 4-6 hr buzz compared to a 10min super high

  • @AliveBoldTV
    @AliveBoldTV Před rokem +42

    Visiting South Africa really took my understanding of how crazy the world is to a whole other level.

    • @suezcontours6653
      @suezcontours6653 Před rokem

      So why all these narratives about South Africa right before the Russia China military drill? Trying to turn us into Libya, I see?

    • @volk779
      @volk779 Před rokem

      Who runs South Africa organized crime scene? Serious crime groups there??

    • @nonofogaborone6640
      @nonofogaborone6640 Před rokem

      Please expand

    • @CantThinkofaCoolOne
      @CantThinkofaCoolOne Před rokem

      Tell us more.

    • @towhitby1
      @towhitby1 Před rokem +6

      Yes the difference between a racist and a non racist is about 2 weeks in South Africa..

  • @xObscureMars
    @xObscureMars Před rokem +4

    9:35 Way to burst this guy's denial Hamilton. What do you think he is going to run to the local hospital and get that fixed?

  • @Euphorb1um
    @Euphorb1um Před rokem

    This is such a good premise for a tv series.

  • @flaplaya
    @flaplaya Před rokem

    I was ready to watch 45 more minutes deeper into this rabbit hole

  • @Erik_The_Viking
    @Erik_The_Viking Před rokem +7

    We have a lot of abalone poaching here along the California coast, which is often by Vietamese and Thai divers.

  • @bornenit309
    @bornenit309 Před rokem +36

    I miss when vice used to go out and film, rather than talk over old footage.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer Před rokem +8

      They have reporters in the field for different stories.

    • @knightyyknight1494
      @knightyyknight1494 Před rokem +3

      Budget cuts Disney sold them out.

    • @spicysalsaking791
      @spicysalsaking791 Před rokem +2

      They've nearly gone bankrupt from what I've heard. They're looking for new buyers/backers as we speak.

  • @Liss1122
    @Liss1122 Před rokem +2

    I bet there is a lot of half built motors and rock collections there in South Africa.

  • @childoftruth1738
    @childoftruth1738 Před 11 měsíci

    SA took a play out of the iac book in south California and crack. This was a a great vid

  • @Kaola730
    @Kaola730 Před rokem +17

    As a South African, I can confirm that Crystal Meth use has increased recently. During the past 5 years I have witnessed a lot of people in my neighborhood using it and it's destroying our community. 😭

    • @Bro-dr3ou
      @Bro-dr3ou Před rokem

      Every neighborhood

    • @chino3796
      @chino3796 Před rokem

      It's in the USA now too.

    • @catloverfurever00
      @catloverfurever00 Před rokem

      Sorry to hear this. Together with crime and economic problems it must be an absolute nightmare.

    • @BackEndFredo
      @BackEndFredo Před rokem +3

      @@chino3796 been in the USA for a long long time lol

    • @why67152
      @why67152 Před 2 měsíci

      Welcome to America!!

  • @mattgraver3604
    @mattgraver3604 Před rokem +3

    We need more documentaries on SA crime and drugs

  • @Sjalabais
    @Sjalabais Před rokem

    I've never heard anyone say "this is where the story gets even more wild" in a more disenfranchised, unbothered voice.

  • @SerchhipChelsea
    @SerchhipChelsea Před rokem +1

    Interesante. 👍🏻

  • @IamAvni
    @IamAvni Před rokem +24

    I love this series, this was another informative video but since you mentioned the gray area market of precursors from China, why not making a video digging deeper into that topic? Also another topic: why is Europe getting more and more shipments of very cheap and very potent ketamine in solid form (crystals) and the liquid medical grade ketamine is not as easy to come as in the past? Those are both topics that deserve to be investigated deeper, people want to know! :)
    Im sure it would make for two amazing videos

    • @x8n42xb67n
      @x8n42xb67n Před rokem +2

      Ketamine now comes from China more often than not, the potent stuff around is usually research chemicals (2-FCDK, DCK, MXP etc etc). There are no liquid vials really anymore because India clamped down on it.

    • @constantlylearnandgrow3487
      @constantlylearnandgrow3487 Před 11 měsíci +2

      liquid ketamine is nothing else than solved ketamine crystals in a solvent. if you have it as a liquid it takes up a multitude of the space of just pure crystals and is therefore harder and more expensive to smuggle. Also the medicinal bottles are fragile and hard to transport in big quantity.

  • @-_-lmapo3388
    @-_-lmapo3388 Před rokem +13

    Shout out to the shell fish

  • @thesaints-7-andrew.
    @thesaints-7-andrew. Před rokem

    Watching from Greece.hi everybody.
    Very interesting video.

  • @jamaljames2578
    @jamaljames2578 Před rokem

    Always watching from Georgetown Guyana south America 🇬🇾🇬🇾🇬🇾🇬🇾🇬🇾

  • @mallsorts9775
    @mallsorts9775 Před rokem +10

    Selling meth to a shellfish is well selfish

  • @kokokat584
    @kokokat584 Před rokem

    Didn't know Quaaludes were still around, need to acquire some

  • @Parker55ful
    @Parker55ful Před rokem

    The parallels with this and the Iran contra scandal are scary

  • @ClassWarVeteran
    @ClassWarVeteran Před rokem +6

    It’s such a methy job that Mike Row won’t even touch it

    • @TheRealKlinky
      @TheRealKlinky Před rokem +1

      🤣🤣🤣...excellent!👏👏👏👏

  • @sonsofkojimarip
    @sonsofkojimarip Před rokem +18

    The clips that Vice used for this episode talking about Mandrax and with Hamilton Morris was an episode about Quaalude use in South Africa, not methamphetamine

    • @AvinashSewpersadh
      @AvinashSewpersadh Před rokem +5

      Hamilton's Pharmacopoeia

    • @sonsofkojimarip
      @sonsofkojimarip Před rokem +3

      @@AvinashSewpersadh in my honest opinion that show is his magnum opus thus far. You gotta love the guy!

    • @emilesimons
      @emilesimons Před rokem +3

      Although mentioned this was noy about Methamphetamine or Mandrax, its about the DRUG MARKET in South Africa where Tik and buttons is most commonly used

    • @oliverhorgs2298
      @oliverhorgs2298 Před rokem +3

      @@emilesimons even so. All of the clips and interviews were from a years old documentary done by Hamilton purely on methaqualone/mandrax/qualuudes. None of the information was new or on the drug they were focusing on. Kinda a shitty way to inform people

    • @sn1000k
      @sn1000k Před rokem

      @@oliverhorgs2298 very strange. Vice is struggling obviously

  • @AstrixCloud
    @AstrixCloud Před rokem

    That shellfish must have had some pretty good pearls on it lol

  • @michaelmorgan6674
    @michaelmorgan6674 Před rokem

    really interesting

  • @jacobs.4647
    @jacobs.4647 Před rokem +10

    Did I hear that correctly?.. VEGAN METH? 🤣🤣🤣

  • @wendigofeast
    @wendigofeast Před rokem +37

    I did not expect to see my home country in a video about shellfish and meth
    Also fun fact someone in my street got arrested for selling poached abalones.
    also had a dude in my school go to rehab because he was addicted to mandrax.
    This video is like a weird depressing nostalgia.

    • @suezcontours6653
      @suezcontours6653 Před rokem

      Duh, China and Russia are doing drills in SA. Time for some scandals

  • @sativva420
    @sativva420 Před 7 měsíci

    Intrresting video

  • @maltehjorth9426
    @maltehjorth9426 Před rokem

    I really like this dude

  • @wolfcat1998
    @wolfcat1998 Před rokem +11

    Sounds like the apartide took a page from the CIA playbook.

    • @zoutewand
      @zoutewand Před rokem

      It's apartheid, apart means seperate heid and means something like the dom in kingdom

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Před rokem

      Shut up. Get drafted

  • @chadstephens4583
    @chadstephens4583 Před rokem +2

    Very interesting. It will all become so obvious in a hundred years looking back but that begs the question. Do the powers that be already have a complete understanding of what is to come... because they intended it?

    • @357CLOUDY
      @357CLOUDY Před rokem

      I don't see how they'll stay rich if they killed the consumers.

  • @In_and_ouTs
    @In_and_ouTs Před 4 měsíci

    He said quaaludes make you feel dreamy, lol. I’ve lost whole days back when I was takin the Lemmon 714’s in the 1990’s.

  • @PiggyFuktoy
    @PiggyFuktoy Před rokem +2

    GAWD I loved quaaludes !!! Just made one feel like everything was right in the world 👍🏼

    • @avo616
      @avo616 Před měsícem

      NON NARCOTIC NON ADDICTING. Could do with a couple lemons now!

  • @brandonnevarez8417
    @brandonnevarez8417 Před rokem +3

    I was hesitant about the mexican roll in nigeria but it makes since cuz in liberia they were smoking specific black tar heroin in interview and explained the nigerians were bringing it in

    • @iyiolaabosede9500
      @iyiolaabosede9500 Před rokem

      Nope drugs were brought into Liberia through the war that happened there sa were selling drugs to children soldiers in the serria leaons war as well

  • @Tully_23_32
    @Tully_23_32 Před rokem +2

    Abalone isn't just native to South Africa it's also found in the southern waters of Western Australia (WA) & South Australia (SA)

    • @Kelprop
      @Kelprop Před rokem

      West Coast Canada has Abalone. Might be affected by red tide though

  • @okalsdi
    @okalsdi Před rokem

    I like your new hairstyle, it looks very good on you!

  • @EricK-ig4ko
    @EricK-ig4ko Před rokem +5

    It’s probably so stepped on it’s ridiculous

    • @Seabass1206
      @Seabass1206 Před rokem

      it’s crystal, its not a super expensive drug especially there with less regulation

  • @cursedfella
    @cursedfella Před rokem +5

    Very interesting, and also quite shocking. I'm used to these type of news and documents, as may many others but it still gets hard to watch sometimes. I wish these people get help. People use drugs but nobody chooses addiction.

    • @suzyqualcast6269
      @suzyqualcast6269 Před rokem

      If twas all uncomplicated and legal still, everywhere there'd be no problems addiction, eah to ones own and it would still be but someone's little habit.

  • @paulgitaukinuthia3916
    @paulgitaukinuthia3916 Před 10 měsíci

    Dear Lord! The Cook wasn't aware of how deadly the fumes were, until Hamilton alerted him.

  • @rgzhaffie
    @rgzhaffie Před rokem +1

    Counterinsurgency doctrine has gone hand in hand with organized crime since even before the Cold War. The famous radical Tamil journalist Sivaram deeply researched and wrote about this for years. Check out the excellent biography, "Learning Politics from Sivaram", by Mark Whitaker. Also see Cockburn and St Clair's history of CIA covert operations, "Whiteout", and Alfred McCoy's magnum opus, "Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia", among others on this subject.

  • @diceone8411
    @diceone8411 Před rokem +5

    Once I took qualude coming off of meth.... For the comedown... NEVER DO THIS.... I almost died ☠️ one of the trippiest suckiest expériences ever. I felt like I was being thrown against the walls & slammed on the floor, randomly. Seriously, it was crazy AF 🤯

    • @dontjudge1358
      @dontjudge1358 Před rokem +3

      I'm glad you made it

    • @Kdramahotgist
      @Kdramahotgist Před rokem

      ☝️☝️🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫💉💉💉💉💉💉🌿🍄🍄🍄🍄

    • @357CLOUDY
      @357CLOUDY Před rokem +1

      Sounds awful.
      Glad you're allright.

  • @electriceyeball
    @electriceyeball Před rokem +15

    Have a friend who, in mid ‘00, spent a lot of time in first Amsterdam, where he did so much of what he called “Thai meth” that his heart now works at a small fraction of what it should. Apparently, that’s how he ended up in South Africa, by way of Asian meth in Amsterdam. He caught an infection in South Africa off the tik and mandrix and his arm swelled 4x its size and he had to be flown to a U.S. ICU for weeks to save his life. Don’t do Asian meth, and don’t go to South Africa and maybe Amsterdam you’ve been warned

    • @EvilTaco
      @EvilTaco Před rokem +1

      Been to Amsterdam just a few weeks ago and can definitely recommend. No meth tho

    • @Jaapst
      @Jaapst Před rokem +2

      I’m born in Amsterdam and lived here my whole life no meth here. Only in gay scene maybe but it’s nothing so small

    • @user-bq4xc2yy3m
      @user-bq4xc2yy3m Před 7 měsíci +1

      dont go to amsterdam? first ive heard of that 😂

  • @lewischatman3664
    @lewischatman3664 Před rokem

    Getting real comfortable with those non skip ads

  • @nickadz5490
    @nickadz5490 Před rokem +2

    Bros got that look in his eyes like his mom just yelled at him 😭

    • @full8127
      @full8127 Před rokem

      Dawg looks like he's 🤏 this close to crying

    • @lastcrazyhorn
      @lastcrazyhorn Před rokem

      Either he’s been sick or he’s snorting something. That under nose redness is definitely there.

  • @Bgoods8
    @Bgoods8 Před rokem +6

    Do shellfish have shell corporations?

    • @wolfcat1998
      @wolfcat1998 Před rokem +2

      They branch out on the drug coral-tels.
      I hate myself.

  • @Stxxbo
    @Stxxbo Před rokem +3

    Guys, South Africa is a more of a movie than anything else. No two days are ever the same down here in the southern most parks of the African continent.

    • @mattgraver3604
      @mattgraver3604 Před rokem

      Ziyabuya eSouth Ah 😭

    • @flowmastaent
      @flowmastaent Před rokem

      Also the whitest part of Africa go figure

    • @volk779
      @volk779 Před rokem

      Seems like south africa is tough

    • @hospagalief
      @hospagalief Před rokem

      @@volk779 tough as nails. Why u keep asking about crime groups, extremely diverse country, literally mafias from every corner of the world

  • @northerners2828
    @northerners2828 Před rokem

    My favorite CM..

  • @pross6525
    @pross6525 Před rokem

    Interesting to hear how Abalone poaching was eventually lead to Meth use in South Africa

  • @amodernalchemist432
    @amodernalchemist432 Před rokem +37

    As a Canadian, I wish our news networks would provide this type of info. At the very least, they could have reports such as these in the late night news programs, so kids and adolescents are not seeing them. I mean, War clips are on news programs ffs. Which is likely why there is soo much murders, mass shootings and other violent crimes nowadays. People are shown violence in the news day in and day out since the 90's, operation Desert Storm, first time live action war was televised. Before that we only seen recorded clips or documentaries...

    • @patrickquine3945
      @patrickquine3945 Před rokem

      As a Canadian, we have some of the best news networks out there. And we also have one of the safest countries in the world, mass shootings are very very rare..

    • @dontjudge1358
      @dontjudge1358 Před rokem

      @@patrickquine3945 what about stabbings ???

    • @patrickquine3945
      @patrickquine3945 Před rokem

      @@dontjudge1358 Also very rare. We have one of the safest countries in the world.

    • @volk779
      @volk779 Před rokem

      @@patrickquine3945 compared to SA Canada is safe asf

    • @lassaut6794
      @lassaut6794 Před rokem

      @@patrickquine3945 bud, you cant tell me cbc and city tv are any where near "the best news networks out there".

  • @grmpEqweer
    @grmpEqweer Před rokem +8

    I do think crowds at events would be a lot more chill if the venues were able to sell MJ edibles.

    • @Ryan88881
      @Ryan88881 Před rokem

      You're not supposed to do edibles "out" or "at events". They're too immobilizing and too much of a 'needing to sit-down' kind of high.