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Steven Universe Theory - The Origin of Gems
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- čas přidán 9. 10. 2016
- A couple of ideas that aren't even entirely mutually exclusive the more I think about it.
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My favorite SU theorist and an interesting topic? *grabs popcorn*
Perseus3248M THEORY INTENSIFIES
+Walter Meadows lol
I'll get more popcorn!
I like how you use peridot and pearl explanation clips when you're explaining stuff.
The last time i was this early , no one who was early said they were early.
Good times
Jack Stiffler so never
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wot
Jack Stiffler whoa thats really early
The probability that the Diamonds were a race of older gem beings and they were the last of this generation? Hence why the gems are created to serve their specific Diamonds.
It would be funny is Rebeca Sugar looks through these and just thought, 'I just thought that they looked neat'.
Something that I feel is wrong with your theory is that the gems aren't connected to their "original" home world. I feel that you're on the right track with the Von Newman theories. I just feel that they would be with their original home world. My idea of how it happened is that what we now know as diamonds were the first gems used by thus mystery humanoid race. But instead of going out and colonizing another home world. They'd instead go terminator on their creators once they reached self awareness. After their war, only 4 diamonds were left (the diamond hierarchy). But since the diamonds take so much energy and resources to make, they had to compartmentalize their gems (creating specialized purposed gems). Eventually they had to go out and colonize other planets to maintain their replications. Things were going great. Then Earth rebelled. After that, I think they had other rebellions popping up on other colonies (hint Jasper saying the first gem war). With resources getting even tighter, they had to compartmentalize their gems even more to sustain their resources (hint era 2 gems). This could all be curve balled with the resource crisis being a fake though. But similar idea. Different history from the creation.
this is similar to what i was thinking because it makes sense about them possibly rebelling against their creators
This actually fits with what I think. What if there have been multiple rebellions after Earth's? And what if there are still rebellions until now? (Hint the use of older gem tech) Or it might just be because they're recovering. But still. What if more and more are rising up? And if there are, what if they are seperated. Or they're different isolated reellions? And if not, then do they ever get to meet up?
SCII RapterNew I don't think that they're having rebellions right now because if they were then why focus on earth at all? They're short on resources and they made a contingency plan to deal with them. You could say that's why they sent peridot. But if they hadn't sent any gems to earth then everyone wouldn't know about it then die.
Extraordinary Adventurer Augustus I do too. But I think that if they did bring in a new alien species then it'd probably be a precursor type role (halo lore). In the lore of halo, they have a species that made the galaxy the way it is in terms of its political landscape. But you don't hear much from them in the actual games or in current lore. What I'm getting at is that they'd bring in a new species for world building and exposition purposes rather than have actual relevance to the present day plot.
Carl Chalk me too
I think they look humanoid because they take the shape of the whatever life form is dominant in whatever part of the galaxy they are in. It would be the best way to have at least all the advantages of their immediate competition. They way they adapt to the gravity of whatever planet they encounter may be an extension of this.
Then explain Homeworld Gems, back on Homeworld, who are humanoid despite being in a different galaxy.
And the fact that the frame work that appears whenever any Gem regenerates is humanoid.
I figured that when they showed Yellow diamond and her pearl that they were on some near by space station, but I suppose they could have been on Home World. As for the human frame, it could have been calculated to look human simply because they are on earth. The corrupted gems seem to be examples of this process failing, because they have a lot of characteristics of other Earth life forms. Even if the writers did not mean for this to happen, I still like the idea because it makes more sense for me.
Leif Lepton you do know that in one of the episodes I don't remember what it's called but amethyst had a different form for so long that she turned back into her gem
AJ Universe we are kind of thinking of this all wrong what if the creators just made it like this so it's easier do keep in mind this is a show for kids too
I loved how Peridot and Pearl were theorising together in this one!!
that's not true. steven is half gem. the projection of the gems must have dna. Thats why gems are able to blush, shed tears etc. and that's why rose isn't comming back. the code/dna that was rose was written into gregs reproductive materials. hence, if steven doesnt have roses dna, he would just be a clone of greg
Wait, how does being able blush and shed tears mean Gems have DNA? Blushing and shedding tears may be biological functions, but so are walking, talking and eating, and we know that Gems can do those. Gems act like biological beings all the time, but we're always reminded that they aren't, and that Gems just mimic the functions of an organism.
Also, Rose isn't coming back because Steven has her Gem, which contains Rose's code.
The Improbable Space Neither walking nor talking are inherently biological functions. In any case, the Gems may be inorganic but they at the very least heavily mimic organic structure. When Peridot was being pulled in two different directions by Steven and Amethyst, a cracking sound could be heard, indicating something similiar to a bone structure. Amethyst seems to produce a mucous-like substance within her nose, and has stated that she pees in the ocean. When we see lion eating a Gem lizard, it is plainly shown with a skeleton. Gems are not biological, but their bodies function in much the same way as a biological being would, and seems to have a similiar structure.
ok but my water faucet can shed tears (run water)but it doesn't have dna
I mean, people have said that Steven looks identical to his father at his age. But aside from that, rose could've hypothetically used her gem to fill in the second half of Steven's genetic code, or at least shapeshifted chromosomes or something weird like that. My point is, there are numerous work arounds they could use if they really wanted to
Pearl stated in Guide to the Crystal Gems that Rose converted her data from her gem into DNA for Steven. They weren't the same thing. Rose used her powers to change that. It's like trying to print an ebook back into a hardback book. They aren't coded in the same way.
This is by far the best explanation of Gem Origins to date!
But in all seriousness, it's also possible that the gems' original planet had totally different evolutionary forces than our own, forces that didn't necessitate proteins to hold autonomous life or intelligence. Instead, crystalline structures. This way, there doesn't have to be a creator race or a long process of biotech integration/migration. I usually prefer simpler explanations.... But I Loved this video, it got me thinking. :)
Is no one going to bring up the fact pearls come from oysters?
that's a good point. how do pearl happen?
Ava Cesarski
I love how you worded that man.
Also drawing attention to the fact pearls are considered organic minerals.
Perhaps that is why Pearls are more precious than other gems and reserved for the upper class.
ok, ive been saying this for ever..... maybe pearls are cultivated underwater in oyster pods? idk they arent a gem. they are not made of soil minerals, they are the smooth round hardened over time basically oyster vomit! oyster🔮+ 1 single grain of sand + irritation and soothing vomit that coats and then hardens around sand until its bbig enough to be expelled....... gross
Maybe Pearls are considered "servants" because they are the most "organic" of all the crystal gems.
It's possible they are at war with their creators. They need a geoweapon(a Planet destroyer) to fight their unseen adversary.
that's what desknight touch on. go check him out his theory are mind blowing
bowser jr Where'd you get that info? From everything I've seen the cluster is made from shattered gems (gem shards) not just specifically shattered crystal gems.
It's also possible that, similar to the Borg from Star Trek, their origins are fuzzy, incomplete, and unknown to even themselves for one reason or another.
bowser jr The first quote was just a guess she was seeing it for the first time. the second doesn't lean either way it's just steven reacting to them. the last thing you said fits in my theory.
Anyway, all in all I'm just saying that homeworld either shattered cracked gems, collected all shards from the battlefield, or shattered crystal gems and homeworld gems that failed as punishment, or any combination of these things to create both the experiments and the cluster. Plus, The crystal gems are often referred to as a small group of rebels I assume 200-300 maybe more the cluster is HUGE. I just doubt it's 100% CGems.
samiamtheman 73 The Borg started when the Borg Queen's husband was trying to save her life with experimental nanites but shit hit the fan and then suddenly Borgs. This is Canon, and I'm not talking novels or games, It's MAIN Canon, TV Canon.
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Luis Gavidia They are crystal gems.
Its not funny anymore
I dont get it. I know about the extended intro but, why is it in a joke?
I forget, what's the difference between hardware and software?
Hardware are physical devices that process data, Software is code or programing that tell the hardware how to function
+Jackson Wilde
Thanks :)
hakudoushinumbernine here.
this theory coupled with fact that yellow diamond seems to despise organic life could imply that they... (at least the diamonds)rose against their creators after gaining sentience...
with each passing generation lower ranking gems lost knowledge of their creators but the diamond... at least the first three kept their knowledge and still harbor hatred for organic life
Woo! Shoutout to TREY the Explainer :D
I think it's also worth mentioning that two gems (Lapis Lazuli and Rose Quartz) have demonstrated the ability to create semi-conscious constructs out of natural materials (water and plant life, respectively). Lapis could arguably colonize a water-rich planet on her own with little help from other gems.
I feel more like that a humanoid race created the first gems, the diamonds. The diamonds then overthrew their rulers, and made more.
I'm a little confused by what you mean when you say there are more efficient body types than Humanoid. Efficient at what? Different body types are efficient at different things. For example, penguins swim gracefully underwater but are comically awkward on land. Please explain why alternative body plans would be better for a sapient, terrestrial species such as Humans.
General survival. Resource gathering. Fighting. Reproduction. All of the things that the Gems do.
Right. Different body types for different tasks. But here, humanoid is the jack of all trades.
no humanoid is not the jack of all trades... We are just good enough... Evolution doesn't prefer the best design, just something good enough to not die until it has reproduced (and possible protected it's offspring for long enough after that)
But what specific body plans are you saying would be better for human level intelligence? For instance, dolphins are more hydrodynamic, so they're better at swimming, but they don't have hands so their ability to put their intelligence to practical use is limited by their anatomy. I'm asking what sort of body would be better for doing normal human activities, which is what the gems tend to do.
Vesperbelle what about a torso that's big enough to contain many organs (which they do not have/need) or a head of a size that can contain a brain, when their AI is in their gem...
I think this is good, I kinda want the creator race to become fandom at least. I would like to pitch Jewelers as a name/nickname for them.
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Or... They killed their makers off?
>: D
this theory is so close to mine!
i think originally the whole gem race was created to conquer other worlds, maybe companionship and for politics by another organic life, and either that species died of or the diamonds killed them.(the diamonds[or at least a few of them] started thinking 'why am i following orders from a species that is inferior to me?' as well as 'why live in this society with on order or rules' so they had there own rebellion ) but what i really think is that our diamond sort've became the first crystal gems in the sense that they rebelled against their superior diamonds and shattered the rest of them leaving only these four left. and to make sure that the other gems didn't hate them or try to rebel against them for what they did they shattered all the gems for that time. they then decided to start gem history basically over. but even through all that there may be some artifacts left over from the original diamond court.(this would also explain why gems take on human forms can are able to eat)
aj you are the best thereos on the steven universe fandom
I think this makes enough sense to revise my own Gem origin theory. In fact, it streamlines it very nicely....
My idea was originally that humanity might have "evolved" somehow into the Gems, but it's less messy to say that advanced humans sent a von Neumann probe out into space, where it encountered some sci-fi spacial anomaly which sent it back in time. This led to the alternate history of Steven Universe wherein the probe continued on with its programming, eventually multiplying and evolving on its own to create Gems as we know them, their forms, mannerisms, and language all still based on the human beings which programmed their progenitor (and possibly stuffed it full of cultural information as a possible "hand of friendship" to genuine alien races).
That's a very interesting theory. To be honest, now I'm imagining a rather "Animal Farm"-like scenario with the arising of the Diamonds. When you break free of the old leader, a new one is bound to arise from within your own people.
(Unrelated Theory) I feel like the Crystal Gems have symbolized diamonds from the very beginning.
Amethyst: Yellow Diamond, they get angry easily, rush to conclusions, chest gem.)
Garnet: Blue Diamond, They're both relaxed and don't take action unless they need to. (Maybe BD is a fusion? A stretch, but I've heard that before...)
Pearl: White Diamond, We haven't seen much of WD yet, but they both have head gems. (Pearl is WD's Pearl. not confirmed, but almost true at this point. That's why.)
Rose: Pink Diamond, Both don't exist anymore, the rest of this comparison is a can of worms I don't want to open. (I'm assuming PD is dead.)
Plus there is the plot twist that they are the same gem
I've been waiting for this video 2 months, and I came by it a week later.
It would both explain why Yellow Diamond has a disdain for them and why their composition is like data.
this is entirely plausible and very well thought through. i thought i should mention that the analysis video by trey the explainer had one small flaw - he suggested that a gems holographic body may be held up by nanobots - thats impossible for several reasons (which i will not disclose without prompt to save you the trouble of a very long comment). great video though. yours and his. thank you for all your work!
I think White Diamond is the mother of all gems, including Yellow and Blue Diamond. Here are the reasons I think this is the case:
-White Diamond seems to have control of Homeworld, as evidenced by the mural on the Moon base.
-White Diamonds, as AJ himself presented in one of his videos, seems to have a privileged status over the other diamonds, an almost deity-like prestige.
-White Diamond is way bigger than Blue and Yellow. Why do I think this is meaningful in any way? Jungle Moon introduces the idea that Pink Diamond was smaller than Blue and Yellow and Yellow treated her like a spoiled child more than one of her peers (and Pink acted in such a way as to make it understandable), plus Pink was featured in the bottom spot of the Diamond authority symbol just like White is always on top, plus Blue’s desperation over Pink’s disappearance, when you think about it, has several parallels to a mother mourning a child. I believe Pink was a third generation Diamond, Yellow and Blue were second generation and White was the first. White is humongous, Yellow and Blue are “only” gigantic but of comparable size to each other, while Pink seemed to be more modestly sized; each generation being smaller than the previous.
This following idea is mere speculations and I don’t believe it to be as likely to turn out true, but it might even be possible that White Diamond was the only naturally occurred gem and all of the others derived from her, one way or another.
*Violently screams in anticipation of this video*
Gems are like one of those "pet rocks" where it's just a rock with a USB port.
I'm pretty sure that Diamonds are the origin point of Gemkind... or atleast White Diamond is since she appears to be the 1st.
But that brings the question WHO created her?
The technology race being sounds good on paper, but then you have to remember that they're just gemstones, earthy minerals, with an ability to project holographic body made of solid light. They don't evolve, because they're not designed to evolve. Evolution is just a fancy word for adaptation. Since each Gem exists solely for a specific purpose, they have no reason to adapt to a new enviroment, not that they'd have to to begin with since they exhaust natural resources, reducing planets to dead heaps of rocks that they later use to live on.
You have to look at it like this:
Who would create a being whose main purpose in existance is the expansion of its own kind, at the cost of planets? Who would want to eradicate all life in the universe for the sake of making sentient non-organic life that is, if you look at it in a way... eternal?
Certainly somebody or something that's lived countless millenia before Gemkind even existed and isn't organic itsel. Somebody... who is dead inside.
Sounds reasonable and consistent with my own theory on how injectors and gem harvest are related, that the injectors are using some kind of energy pattern harvested from gems and infusing it into mineral crystals in the ground to create new gems.
To be honest, what I thought about their origins was that they're gods and created the universe and have their own god society but the universe itself adapted on its own like the solar system, and other systems across galaxies and gem colony decided to gain more control over the universe, since they're losing it to adaptation, they found the earth already on its evolutionary state where humans were starting to first take over, the gems decided to plant themselves everywhere in the universe to regain power and earth was one of the many places they'd seek to reproduce themselves on. This theory is way more interesting than mine though, although we can't really know for sure, since it's just a show. But kudos to this theory.
So many people are doing theories about this topic. But keep up the good work AJ!😀
Nice deal of research as always.
I've always considered the thought that gems weren't a created race but rather one that came into being as sporadically as any other species just with a different base makeup, it would still make sense then that they'd slowly better themselves over generations as stated in the video. It would also explain, to me at least, why they reproduce how they do since they'd have to have realized how they came to be and then just copied the conditions.
Remember when on the moon base where our Dorito explained why they adapted to the gravity of the celestial object they were on? I believe this supports your idea. A good probe shouldn't lose efficiency. Efficiency... This also supports your idea. The gems seem to be a very efficiency-based culture. Yellow Diamond said it herself when she said she didn't care about 'potential resources'
I think that the diomands once was part a humanoid alien race but made them selfs gems so they could live forever and made more gems with humanoid things about them and took over there home world.
What if humans create these Neumann proto-gems in the future, but they travel thousands of years in the past through a wormhole and become the spacefaring race we know them to be. So when they came to colonize Earth, they had no idea they might be destroying their future makers.
I think the diamonds were made the Sam way humans were made, but as a diamond, and the diamonds made the gems, and the gems,like the light house gem,were the first gems the diamonds made.
Humans weren't made, though...
Diamonds are also made since it appears pink diamond was created specifically to lead a new gem sector.
YES THEY WERE WE WAS FIRST MADE AS cells and then evolved into us
Chris and Casper co gaming That's not how evolution works.
Well first there were cells then Fish then small animals then monkeys then humans Thats our evolution but you also had dinosaurs and all that
This is my theory:
The gems bodies are mostly made of light, but since gem shards stay when they are shattered, I'm guessing their made like normal gems except more evolved and able to create their own form and what they look like on homeworld, but not on other planets. My evidence? Well most gems are made in the ground, and some of the gems are made in kindergartens, or in the rocks or geodes. And I'm guessing most of the pearls are made in blue diamonds court, since lapis lazuli can use water and she's blue and pearls are made in oysters, which form in the water. Their rooms also show what habitat they were made in like amethysts form in geodes, garnets form in hot places, and pearls form in oysters underwater.
I have a theory:
Due to long time it took for the gems to incubate, their creator race gradually became more advanced, to the point where they mastered conscious transfer, at some point the race began to die out due to all their output on gems and four high ranking elites decided to create for gems, White, Blue, Yellow and Pink, they then transferred their conscious into those gems and became more powerful than they were before, as immortals they established the Diamond Authority while the creator race became extinct.
Or an alien race made the gems to take over a plants for them and the gems turned on them
yeah I thought that's what it was
the gems may have resulted in their maker's extinction, but that doesn't mean they turned on them.
Think of it like this: you're considering having children, but they come out with this new technology: androids that look and act like humans, except they are smarter, stronger, live much longer, and can be repaired.
Would you choose to have a weak, cripple-able child who will die in 70 years, or would you buy an android child who can live just like a human being, but immune to disease and old age?
Even if you would choose to have a human child, the longer the tech is out the more normal it is, and it could eventually result in the extinction of "biological humans"
Victoria Roldan Perhaps the quote on quote "Sneaple"
I think that the Gems were made sentient, in order to be able to think and feel like their creators. I personally like the idea that the Gems are a sort of super-enhanced organic species that pretty much become purely living, thinking machine. It explains where the original species went, too: the creators likely didn't have the ability to survive, and that's why they needed the Gems to go and collect resources from space. They could also have had a start from being a sort of re-designed brain scan of the creator species, a sort of recreated and then randomised being that is given individual persona traits that best suit their type, which is possibly something like the creators had, what with how we humans already group like-minded people together, but the Gems are given some random traits that make them unique and individual. If the creators were at an extreme resource shortage, or possibly in likelihood of dying due to an event that could kill organic beings, but not artificial ones like the Gems, then it's also possible that the Gems were made to preserve the essence of those people in a sense, spreading in a way they never could. The built-in extreme survival and powerful abilities are something that I doubt the Gems made themselves, probably just as the creators didn't want them to face death and doom like they did.
An aspect of gem design that I am confused about, according to this theory, is why their base forms are gems at all. Gems are natural, albeit inanimate (and more specifically native to earth as far as we know. In theory elements all around the galaxy could combine in exactly the same way they do on earth to create the specific gemstones we know here on earth, but it's not incredibly likely. Especially not for the variety of gem types we see on SU). It seems to me that a humanoid race building some sort of mechanical servant-creature would create that servant to look like, well, a machine, not a natural gemstone. Let me be clear: it's not the humanoid form I am disputing. An alien race could design a machine to look humanoid. It's the gemstone base I'm talking about. It could, of course, just be a stylistic choice, either on the part of the alien race that created them, or on the part of Rebecca Sugar and the Crewniverse. Interesting nevertheless.
My theory on gems is that there was once an alien race that created the first gems, and gave them the technology to create more of themselves. And they either based the gems’ appearance off of humans, or created humanity after the gems
IT WAS THE SNEOPLE! Only logical sense.
Very good, (*claps*) you just described Transformers as well.
My theory was always that they were somewhere between Transformers and Zentraedi (from the Macross series.) Created by some other race to conqueor other worlds/serve as an interstellar military or police force (as with the Zentraedi), with the technology elements coming from Transformers.
I guess the Von Neumann machine theory is similar to that, but I feel that those two properties were specifically what inspired the gem backstory (if I'm correct, anyway.)
While I like the idea that they are machines built for a precursor civilization, I can't help but feel it is a cop-out. Saying that they work the way they do to fit in with the precursor civilization conflicts with the idea that they are machines built to explore space. I think they are actually a post-singularity society. That they evolved as silicone based life and developed technology to create the far superior holographic bodies.
We know that they have a distinct culture, as seen by the aristocratic upper class, so it would would not be reaching to suggest that the form they take on is similar to their physical, biological bodies, of which would of had cultural significance. This also explains their obsession with the preservation of "Homeworld" which, like our planet, has great significance to our evolution and development.
Aspects such as emotions, communication and even love seem useless to an exploration machine, but make sense for an previously biological being, one that has the distinctive flaws of evolution.
Sure, you could explain all this as a product of them developing their own society, or copying the precursor species, but why would they develop copy the flaws that they clearly have, such as a sense of individualism and the ability to rebel. Such aspects clearly do nothing but hurt the civilization as a whole when these flaws occour in the lower classes. So why would they have these flaws?
And it doesn't help that there is zero evidence for a precursor civilization.
nice theory
I like this. Silicone based life is definitely my preferred theory, even though AJ's is a good second followed by TREY for 3rd place.
I don't they they're silicon based life. If you want to take the literal route, afaik most gemstones are made of carbon
That's true, but Yellow Diamond refers to humans as "organic life" in a condescending tone. This indicates that they separate themselves from carbon lifeforms. It would make sense that they are silicon, since they are essentially an AI operated on a silicon computer (the gem). Also remember that they're not actually the same as the gems we know, they are clearly different from mundane stones.
I have this one theory about how the Gem species came to be. While Homeworld was still forming, it possibly produced some form of bacteria into the atmosphere, and it harvested itself inside the materials used to make Gemstones. When the Gemstone began to form, the bacteria mixed in with it creating life. It needed energy to survive and grow stronger, thus it sucked out the energy from the materials around it. After a while, the Gem begins to form and it bursts out of the ground. And while adding what Amethyst said, that being "Parasites like me", it kinda adds to my theory of how the Gem species was born. As Rebeca Sugar revealed that Gems are like super computers that made things a bit more confusing. You see, Pathogenic Virus Injectors have this sort of robotic and organic look to them. Inside the Capsid (head) it contains its DNA and injects it through its end plates. It produces more of itself all with the same DNA and repeats the cycle all over again. I think that's where Gems got the idea that they're destined to repeat this cycle after they may have discovered the bacteria inside them, giving them life. And thus, Gem Injectors weer made to repeat this cycle.
this is so smart, AJ! You're so clever & I love the way you think
Maybe the humanoid aliens first lived on earth but and they went extinct in the gems went to a different world and then that's why there so attracted to earth the statue might be there base because it has a heart
Pless Jones nice
love how you use gems to explain theorys
When a mommy gem and a daddy gem (when/if they existed) love each other veeeeeeerrrrry much...
Great theory! This seems pretty plausible.
I have a theory: I believe the Gems were the original speakers of English, and when they came to Earth the Humans learned English from the early Crystal Gems or other Gems. That could've been one of the reasons for the Temples, because we have seen no Gem worship a Diamond, but just see them as leaders. The ancient humans worshiped Gems and learned English from them, created temples with the Gem's help/technology.
An interesting and unique theory. Good job on this one.
I love your ending puns.
I would like to see other gems in the show but not gems like that of earth gems because on other planets there should be others gems types that don't exist on earth like Torvalite or Krondestite. That would be interesting.
AJ, I have an idea that could be interesting. I think gems might not know who their "creators" were, but they have some sort of mythology. For example the moon goddess or the other figures on the sea spire. If you may notice, the moon goddess doesn't have a gem, but is, instead, holding a blue gem. She might be the creator of Blue diamond in the gem mythology, since the spire, where it it placed, seems to be an installation for aristocratic gems.
At this point we can say for sure that the diamonds are some of the oldest if not the oldest gems out there, because if the gems weren't originally made to serve them they have to have been around for enough time to convince them of that. Then it makes sense to assume that, if there were to be a gen mythology, the diamonds would have been the first gems made by the gods and then would have supposedly created all the others. I might be reading too much into things, but please let me know what you think about this theory!
this may sound a bit farfetched, but a long time ago, I had a thought that what if the corrupted gems were actually gems in a primordial form?
Millions of years ago on a Crystal planet, an electro magnet storm covers the sky. suddenly, lightning strikes hit the gem clusters on the Crystal planet's surface and they react. the gem clusters then start to take form into animal like creatures. These gem creatures begin to evolve, changing form as millions of years pass becoming more humanoid to the point in which we recognize the homeworld gems as of now.
just a thought...
There is no such thing as "artificial" life, unless you're talking about AI in a video game or something. If something really thinks and is really 'alive' then it is just life.
Maybe it's like the Geth and the ... Tali Vas Normandy's race (Mass Effect). The gems were originally tools and servants to a nomadic, conquering race. Something happened to the original race (Maybe they wiped themselves out) and what was left went to the first gems. The only ones to really dominate were the diamonds. That's about all I can come up with.
So... Gems are Meeseeks? Ooo!Can do!
Maybe the Gems were sentient enough to rebel against their creators and killed them (Just like Rose 0.o) and maybe too the Diamonds were created to management of the Gem race for their original creators while they... were chilling up?
And rebelled, or maybe they continue serving them, but only the Diamonds know. And the reason that Gems aren't mindless but instead have conciousness is that when the Diamonds rebelled they only knew how to MAKE more Gems, and not to actually change their properties, and with their creators no longer around they simply couldn't do it(didn't have the tecnology to) and have to deal with sentient Gems(because Think with me for a Second, what is the best type of robot to serve? a sentient robot or a mindless that do what you want?).
i like this theory, especially because it's based on the von newmann theory. it would be such a wild story if this were true.
They must have been really sophisticated machines if someone like Rose could take Greg's DNA and produce Steven. Is that even possible? This would make Steven half-hologram?
Also what a coincidence it is how these machines happened to form such humanoid appearances. I feel like it would be so unlikely that there's another alien race out there who would look exactly like us
This isn't about theory but I think Steven's healing power only works when he truly cares about the object/person he is healing
A long time ago, I heard of a theory stating that humans, very far down the evolutionary line, will become crystalline-based beings rather than carbon thus opening the gate for them to be able to do crazy things. I do not know the details of this theory nor do I know where it came from, but perhaps it is possible the Gems really are a heavily evolved species.
Could you try to explain how gems grow? Like what is put in the ground, how they grow with their AI, and how they know how they'll turn out (like when the people-shaped holes were crooked)
they were probably created by sneeple
I'm getting real sick of this ! The gems are not ROCKS , they are MINERALS !
leviathan loack The preferred term in geology is rock. But since we're dealing with pearl, bismuth, and lapis lazuli, accuracy has just gone out the window
I like to think that "homeworld" is a planet that once upon a time had really good recourses but the diamonds that were growing finally finished and started incubating other gems. I think that yellow diamond grew first then pink then white then blue. I think that's the reason the gems started taking over other planets because homeworld slowly started dying anyone else agree or have something to add
So Steven is kinda like generator Rex
Aj nailed it! I saw the video he referenced at the beginning but hos explanation was way more concise and too the point. Sorry about your facebook issues, haters always gotta ruin sood things. Maybe a collaboration with Lt.LickMe and his anonymous hacker friend might be suggested. If you haven't seen it episode 10 bought me to tears faster than here comes a rhought.
This makes so much sence.
I had a very similar theory, though it went a little differently. In my theory, Gems also originated from a biological species, though they weren't humanoid at the time, which I felt explained why corrupted Gems become animalistic when they corrupt: they're reverting. They lived on a planet where food was limited so they developed the ability, over time, to consume and derive nutrition from just about anything (because Amethyst at least can eat just about anything) as well as the ability to draw energy from the sun using natural armor which would become the basis of the gemstone. Eventually, a humanoid race came to the planet and settled there. They decided to make use of the indigenous life forms first as pets and working animals and then to modify them, slowly turning them into what we know today. Eventually, a war broke out between this maker race and another and the maker race was obliterated, with a few survivors escaping to Earth where they became the ancestors of the human race (explaining why humans and gems are both humanoid). The planet was desolated in the war and the enemy race moved on, leaving the hardy servant race of the Gems alone and leaderless. I theorize that, since they were designed to follow orders, the Gems sought out a master and eventually created their own in the first Diamonds. This system continued on with Gems developing over time into a more war-like conquering race and then the story starts off. What do you think? Too complicated? Too many assumptions?
I think this theory is excellent.
Neat idea. I appreciate this theoretical insight.
GUYS I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING. So i was watching "here comes a thought" and i was thinking about how, when Connie and Steven fuse, their clothes are layered. Because they're layered, it looks like Stevonnie is wearing a diamond. A yellow diamond. So I was thinking: what if it's foreshadowing?" Think of it: Steven is prone to trying to see the best in everyone and going out on a limb for anyone if it means possibly helping that person. Connie, complementarily, is Steven's best friend and will jump in with him at any point into anything and even has this thing about proving herself. So if Steven, say, thought he could change the way Yellow Diamond thought- specifically about fusions- he might just go out on a limb for her. If Yellow Diamond figures this out and then plays along- asking questions, looking far more reasonable than she did during Peridot's attempt @ reason or even gave personal stories to Stevonnie- then she might be able to temporarily get Stevonnie to be on her side. But, as we know, that's not a yellow diamond. It's a star in disguise. So my theory is that, no matter how convincing Yellow Diamond is, Stevonnie will eventually return to those who truly want him.
i was thinking maybe the gems exist as some kind of hitchhikers guide to the galaxy kind of thing?
Being Von Neumann probes would explain everything, why would the probes need any organic matter or magma heat to work if they have the stars to power them? It's because gems are designed to need to destroy planets in order to survive.
I like to think of gems as computer BASED life forms. To be sentient is one thing, but to be emotional to the extent at which the gems are is another. I don't think they are actually computers, because then wouldn't they all be perfect, or at least have a lot fewer imperfections? They are humanoid physically and emotionally, and that's something I don't think is possible to program. With the AI machine, it would continue to improve upon itself until it leveled off, but why have emotional pain? Like pearl's grief over rose's death.
Okay, two things you missed: The insides of the injectors have organic material inside, and in Guide to the Crystal Gems, Amethyst said they inject goop into the ground to make gems, so it sounds pretty much like gems are life in some way, probably not AI
Do you have a source that confirms that the liquid in the injectors is organic? Because I don't know of one.
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There is an episode of Star Trek Next Generation where they discover a new form of life that is sentient and crystalline. The new life form attacks the ship and blah blah decides that humans aren't ready to have contact with it yet. I always thought gems might have evolved on their own in that way. That wouldn't explain why they started to take human forms though so this theory seems a bit more legit
So if the thing with the core being responsible for the human-like forms of gems is true, then wouldn't it make sense that, when a gem becomes corrupted, the core gets damaged as well making them lose their human-like features and making them turn out looking like the gem monsters we know?
Aaaah!!! I'm so ready for this!!!!
I like this, but I also like the idea that WD was originally created to serve a different alien race. Over time, she became more sentient and I can't remember what she would have done to her original creators, but once she's no longer under their control, she starts the Gem Homeworld. I would think that she took over a healthy planet and either created BD and YD first or a small staff/army to serve her first. I can't remember who I originally heard this from. I'm pretty sure that this was just like a side comment or something in a video about something e- actual, I now think that I- no, I can't remember where I first heard this, but if this sounds familiar to anyone who reads this, please tell me who I got this from.
I'd like to point out that we don't hear much past about 8000 years ago, and knowing that they called era 1, well, era 1, it was likely that they had developed only likely a few thousand years prior. Afterall, there is preliminary evidence to believe that their empire was a lot smaller than it is now, So I am going to guess that Era 1 likely started sometime between 10k and 20k years ago when the Diamonds were formed, and they broke off from their creators or transformed their society into the gem race. Since the 4 diamonds consider eachother family, its possible that the Diamonds were likely a powerful family back when the species was more organic in nature, eventually transferring their minds to the 4 Diamonds, creating the Great Diamond Authority, then conquering and destroying the old to create the new gem race, starting era 1. However, this is just even broader speculation than what you posited up there.
I love the theory and where's it's going I had more to say BUT I LOVED THE OUTRO I'LL TALK TO YOU GUYS .. LATER IS MY THING
I did not jump up and down out of protest
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I'd like to speculate that in the process of eradicating or truly defeating the diamonds the origin of the gem species comes to light and that's what makes the crystal gems success possible with this new discovery and a potential ally
Bootstrap paradox. We saw the gems time travel. Maybe one went back and started the gem race creating a bootstrap paradox.
good, now explain why the gems came to earth which could be 1000's of light years away from home world just to harvest/colonize it.
i'm glad that he did that shatout
Hey AJ, I think you should check out the origins of the Transformers. Your theory likes up very closely with the Transformer's cannon and because of this parallel I'm thinking this might be the direction SU is taking.
Which one? The Marvel Comics origin? The G1 cartoon origin? The UK Comics origin? The retconned G1 origin for the Japanese continuations of the G1 cartoon? The retconned origin for Beast Wars/Machines? The origin used in the Energon Trilogy? Or the Allspark origin used in the movies and in Transformers: Animated? There are a lot of them.
tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformer
As a long time fan of the series, this link pretty much covers the origins I'm referring to. Most if not all of them are very similar and seems to fall in line with your theory.
i just got a thought watching this what if the tample was the one that made the gems and once the diemonds ware made thay thought thay ware butter and destoryed her and thats how shes stone and the diemonds made there own set of rules for the gems
The Temple statue is in the likeness of a Fusion of Rose, Garnet, Amethyst, and Pearl.
maybe try a more traditional outro? with a title, ambient music and links to your videos?
Even after all this time; I still believe that Gems as we know them are an advanced form of AI created by a higher lifeform.