How great would it be to see Juan take delivery of the first kit and do a series on its construction from uncrating to first flight/sign off test hours? Special guest appearances of Pete the assistant and D. Gryder providing in depth coverage of the items of concern, and more importantly, the number of tacos missing throughout the area. Do it Brownie!
@@michaelmartinez1345 Pretty sure that when Juan said 'Pop Rivets' it was shorthand for 'Cherry Max' - the Cherry Max are every it as strong as a bucked rivet, and way stronger than an incorrectly bucked rivet by an amateur.
Thanks Juan! That was a really great walk through of the Vans aircraft I wanted 10 years ago. But better late than never, this aircraft is going to put a huge smile on the faces of a lot of pilots. I do love that the Johnson Bar is located up high - in my 172B it's on the floor witch is distracting to operate.
An up close and personal look at the RV-15. Just what I’ve been looking for. I imagine this one design precipitating a whole cottage industry of aftermarket STOL mods like wingtips, cuffs and vortex generators for an already STOL airframe.
Thanks Juan. Very helpful and happy to start getting some real numbers. This, not surprisingly, seems very well positioned to dominate the market space. The name and support behind it alone will tip many folks on the fence of their build selection. For some it'll be aluminum versus fabric. I had 2 competitors in mind, but this blows them away. Only thing on my personal list that leads this one would be the Bearhawk model 5 which is apples and oranges. Totally different planes, missions and profiles. Still, this could accommodate most missions and widen the gap needed between my toy and my transportation. Interesting. Ugh, with the 1 year expectation was 'we'll take your money today and delivery in Q4' :)
Hi, Juan, thanks for showing us this gorgeous airplane. I have a feeling that it may become kind of a mini Beaver, even though it is supposed to be home built. God Bless and stay safe.
With pop rivets this will be a very fast build time like their RV12. This will be such a popular plane it will out sell all the RV models. Vans has come a long way since the RV-4 I help in building back in the day over 40 years ago. Back then you did just about everything and the build hours were very long. I want one when they are taking orders.
You sound like an experienced builder, so maybe you can answer a question. Could bucked rivets or whatever the proper terminology is, be used instead of pop rivets when building one of these?
Your STOL presentation on Thursday Evening came through loud and clear. The best video presentation since your first at Sun & Fun. Glad to see the EAA video team stepped up to the plate with better camera work. Congratulations on a spectacular performance! Next it would be good to show a little more of you announcing.
What a nice looking aircraft! Great to see some more competition in the off-field STOL arena. Especially a Vans - they've got some top notch stuff! I'd want to leave it unpainted like this - looks great I think. I suppose it would be a chore polishing all that real estate, though. Shocked at the price! I'd have figured at least double that in today's world. I just paid over $310 for THREE hydraulic hoses for my backhoe today! OUCH!! I looked for the 24k gold lining, but alas ... 😁
Would using clear ceramic coating on the beautiful aluminum surfaces protect the surfaces for 3 to 6 months at a time? I'd like the low drag that would provide.
Yeah, the extra fuel burn wouldn't discourage many from such a huge upgrade in load and interior size. I am sure the stall speed will be fairly close as well. If both can operate on a 400ft strip.... we have a winner here
I've worked on a variety of Helios, PC-6's, and even a Do-27 in the mix. It looks like the team behind the 15 clearly understands bush aviation - not just the STOL performance, but the necessity for easy field maintenance as well. The Helio and Do-27's are cool with their LE slats and other STOL devices but from an mx perspective it can get very involved. Good to see this plane focuses on operational simplicity - the truth is most RV builders aren't gonna be too keen on doing 50-hour inspections and following ICA's to the letter. Of course, since it's an EAB, it's only a matter of time for those that *are* willing to be more involved with their airplanes to add aftermarket devices! And I'd love to see that too - I can already see the VG's, fairing mods, and bellypods coming!
A few years ago C W Lemoine was looking at buying a Van's aircraft but I guess decided not to. He posted a video where he went and looked at the aircraft and also talked to a representative.
8/3/22..so Juan at Oshkosh..u show us this Van A/C experimental Cessna copy. Any comments on Mike Patey's unique 1-of-a-kind 'Scrappy'/Rescue extreme fancy 500HP Carbon Cub copy. Com'on..tell us what you think..Mike Patey is absolutely over the top on all the extra engineering, double leading edge/aileron/flap extreme angles/dual-double shock landing gear hydraulic control/tail wheel extra...xyz...can't remember...soo many fantastic extras. Hope to hear your comments..⚙🛩🤔
Nice bird! Thanks for showing us. I like everything I see, so far. Saw another pic without lower cowl, and port side between engine and firewall were three upright cylindrical appearing 'tubes'. Curious what those are.
The History Guy has just posted "The NACA: The Most Important Government Agency You Never Heard Of", a history of the National Advisory Committee on Aeronautics. If you like airplane history, you'll like this post.
I like the folded rudder trailing edge over the riveted 3 piece style that’s on the -7, -10, and the -14.. that folded style feels much nicer. The riveted rudder is too stiff.
It's easy to get caught up in all the hype but no single airplane does everything. The good news is that there is a lot of variety out there. The trick is to think very carefully about the kind of flying you will do regularly, not the flight that would be really cool to do if you had the chance. In other words, spend wisely and borrow your buddy's plane for that bucket list item!😄
2+2 seating is a term used by Glasair for the "Sportsman 2+2". Seating is side by side and back to back, 4 adult seating. Great plane also. I have the Carbon/quick build kit. Not finished yet unfortunately.
Is that anti servo tab on the stabilator? Are they using steel core or hallow rivets? Think of the corrosion factor especially if it goes on floats. They better have a inspection panel in the floor under your feet for the shock absorbers there
Are the RV15 and Kodiak the only planes introduced? is that par for the course or are there normally more planes anounced. I guess there aren't that many new planes popping up in GA.
And to add to your reply, not a lot of people know how to hard rivet correctly and may not have the inclination to learn nor the time. It opens the build to a larger group of people I think.
Adding on to what people are saying here already, pop rivets can be easily done with one person. Especially for fuselage skinning that is generally difficult with the old school method.
They wanted their own Draco? :) 50k isn't bad although the engine is 40k+? really not a big fan of kit building, imagine buying bare parts from a car maker and having to do it all yourself. Including paint. Hopefully the proposal for factory built experimentals is approved. And factory built experimentals should be encouraged to be a step towards certification. An FAA guy can assess the design and by virtue of practical tests in owner hands it can be fully certified. Kit building is part of the poor state of GA. It's way too cuba. Is the stabilator a complexity risk? seems a little ambitious for a kit.
Between this and the Sling HW there seems to be a bright future for "can do backcountry but also not be crazy slow" airplanes :)
It's like. 185 and a Helio Courier had a baby! 😳❤️
Best presentation of the RV15 so far 👍
VANs make some nice planes. I've loved their designs since they started. This one looks like another winner.
How great would it be to see Juan take delivery of the first kit and do a series on its construction from uncrating to first flight/sign off test hours? Special guest appearances of Pete the assistant and D. Gryder providing in depth coverage of the items of concern, and more importantly, the number of tacos missing throughout the area. Do it Brownie!
Only likely if they sign on as a white lily sponsor.
I won't watch anything with Grider in it.
@@craigsanders6925 IDK. Watching corn patch landings never get old.
@@jimarcher5255 Now that's funny. Still feel bad for the guy that he walked away from after parking it in the corn.
@@michaelmartinez1345 Pretty sure that when Juan said 'Pop Rivets' it was shorthand for 'Cherry Max' - the Cherry Max are every it as strong as a bucked rivet, and way stronger than an incorrectly bucked rivet by an amateur.
Just like the "Mighty Luscombe"....👍
I have been waiting for something like this! My first and last build.
Thanks for sharing! 💞💖❤️
Thanks Juan! That was a really great walk through of the Vans aircraft I wanted 10 years ago. But better late than never, this aircraft is going to put a huge smile on the faces of a lot of pilots.
I do love that the Johnson Bar is located up high - in my 172B it's on the floor witch is distracting to operate.
Man, that’s one clean-looking airplane. I didn’t see any head-splitting flap hinges hanging down either..
"No, Sir. I got me a Carbon Cub." Hahaha
3:40 the doors will be removeable off on the final version, from what Rian said.
Best overview I've seen yet!
An up close and personal look at the RV-15. Just what I’ve been looking for.
I imagine this one design precipitating a whole cottage industry of aftermarket STOL mods like wingtips, cuffs and vortex generators for an already STOL airframe.
Thanks Juan. Very helpful and happy to start getting some real numbers. This, not surprisingly, seems very well positioned to dominate the market space. The name and support behind it alone will tip many folks on the fence of their build selection. For some it'll be aluminum versus fabric. I had 2 competitors in mind, but this blows them away. Only thing on my personal list that leads this one would be the Bearhawk model 5 which is apples and oranges. Totally different planes, missions and profiles. Still, this could accommodate most missions and widen the gap needed between my toy and my transportation. Interesting. Ugh, with the 1 year expectation was 'we'll take your money today and delivery in Q4' :)
Thank you so much for the show of the RV!
Hi, Juan, thanks for showing us this gorgeous airplane. I have a feeling that it may become kind of a mini Beaver, even though it is supposed to be home built. God Bless and stay safe.
Reckon that is going to be a popular aircraft here in Oz Juan. Very well thought out.
Juan, saw you at the S.O.S bar ! Party animal!
Love the silver plate look
Your knowledge of vintage aircraft and aircraft in general is mind blowing brother !
Have a look at the Sling High Wings that flew to Oshkosh from South Africa. They are available in both tricycle and tail wheel configurations.
Wow wow wow, what an amazing aircraft. Thank you Juan for this!!
With pop rivets this will be a very fast build time like their RV12. This will be such a popular plane it will out sell all the RV models. Vans has come a long way since the RV-4 I help in building back in the day over 40 years ago. Back then you did just about everything and the build hours were very long. I want one when they are taking orders.
You sound like an experienced builder, so maybe you can answer a question. Could bucked rivets or whatever the proper terminology is, be used instead of pop rivets when building one of these?
Awesome! thanks for the walk around! 140 is a pretty nice speed 👍
Slick! Thanks, Juan
Thanks for this awesome intro Juan!
Great review Juan. When I was there looking at it Tuesday, it was such a mob seen, I could barely get near the airplane.
Oh it’s beautiful
I like it!
Kathy looks like Amelia Earhart with the silver in the background.
Kathy is one of my favorite Aviators!
Your STOL presentation on Thursday Evening came through loud and clear. The best video presentation since your first at Sun & Fun. Glad to see the EAA video team stepped up to the plate with better camera work. Congratulations on a spectacular performance! Next it would be good to show a little more of you announcing.
What a nice looking aircraft! Great to see some more competition in the off-field STOL arena. Especially a Vans - they've got some top notch stuff! I'd want to leave it unpainted like this - looks great I think. I suppose it would be a chore polishing all that real estate, though. Shocked at the price! I'd have figured at least double that in today's world. I just paid over $310 for THREE hydraulic hoses for my backhoe today! OUCH!! I looked for the 24k gold lining, but alas ... 😁
For that price, did they come full of oil?
Would using clear ceramic coating on the beautiful aluminum surfaces protect the surfaces for 3 to 6 months at a time? I'd like the low drag that would provide.
When I frist saw it at AirVenture 2022 I said it was a copy of a Cessna 180, but I still liked it in a weird way...
man...the lead times on this are going to be forever
Well, the RV-15 must be real if Juan is covering it!
Sure looks looks nice. Thanks again for a great walk around.
Ok uberd you guys home last night , who else was I supposed to check out ? On CZcams
another brilliant day out
So could this be a good commuter plane as well as back country? 140knots cruise isn't bad if the fuel consumption isn't massive.
carbon cub is also like $300k and doesn't have a cruise of 140 knots... just saying.
Yeah, the extra fuel burn wouldn't discourage many from such a huge upgrade in load and interior size. I am sure the stall speed will be fairly close as well. If both can operate on a 400ft strip.... we have a winner here
What a slick kit wow
Hope you brought Pete he could earn a tidy amount polishing off the fingerprints on that plane.
Ty!!
I like it…❤ better start saving my money…
Never knew vans would end up making bushplanes
THANK YOU!!
I've worked on a variety of Helios, PC-6's, and even a Do-27 in the mix. It looks like the team behind the 15 clearly understands bush aviation - not just the STOL performance, but the necessity for easy field maintenance as well. The Helio and Do-27's are cool with their LE slats and other STOL devices but from an mx perspective it can get very involved. Good to see this plane focuses on operational simplicity - the truth is most RV builders aren't gonna be too keen on doing 50-hour inspections and following ICA's to the letter. Of course, since it's an EAB, it's only a matter of time for those that *are* willing to be more involved with their airplanes to add aftermarket devices! And I'd love to see that too - I can already see the VG's, fairing mods, and bellypods coming!
A few years ago C W Lemoine was looking at buying a Van's aircraft but I guess decided not to. He posted a video where he went and looked at the aircraft and also talked to a representative.
That looks like my kind of airplane!
8/3/22..so Juan at Oshkosh..u show us this Van A/C experimental Cessna copy. Any comments on Mike Patey's unique 1-of-a-kind 'Scrappy'/Rescue extreme fancy 500HP Carbon Cub copy. Com'on..tell us what you think..Mike Patey is absolutely over the top on all the extra engineering, double leading edge/aileron/flap extreme angles/dual-double shock landing gear hydraulic control/tail wheel extra...xyz...can't remember...soo many fantastic extras. Hope to hear your comments..⚙🛩🤔
Modern day Howard Hughes! Mike has already covered this aircraft better than I could.
You sure know a lot about airplanes
Nice bird! Thanks for showing us. I like everything I see, so far. Saw another pic without lower cowl, and port side between engine and firewall were three upright cylindrical appearing 'tubes'. Curious what those are.
Rather have a Maule, but its a good video and another good aircraft coming..and that aint a bad thing
The History Guy has just posted "The NACA: The Most Important Government Agency You Never Heard Of", a history of the National Advisory Committee on Aeronautics. If you like airplane history, you'll like this post.
Vans will sell every one they can produce, and the waiting list will be LOOOOOOOOOOOONG
Like a Murphy Moose… a little smaller
I want!
RV 15 is great but go check out the Sling high wing stand, three flew from South Africa to Oshkosh, arrived on Thursday
All right silent notice from screw to, let's check it out.
Airframe builders appear to be picking ideas from Mike Patey builds!
Damn…..I want one!
Kit mania. Do you get a free pair of Vans sneakers with purchase?
Are you here all week?? Would love to meet you!
I like the folded rudder trailing edge over the riveted 3 piece style that’s on the -7, -10, and the -14.. that folded style feels much nicer. The riveted rudder is too stiff.
Would it fit one of the new small turbine engines?
More reliable, runs on Jet A?
Float kit? Ski kit?
Suspension reminds me of scrappy
Pop pop pop... pop rivet. Pop pop pop paaaa pop rivet.
Engine sold separately! That's another 100K on top of that $50,000 base price.
+ Avionics, paint, interior..... $250k total? Just the world we live in.
@@nathangreer8219 For another $50K on top of that you could have a nice 185.
@@nathangreer8219
And you are forgetting the $27.00 a gallon for gas then!
Hell it’s close to $9.00 now!
Hartzel Trailblazer
Correct.
It's easy to get caught up in all the hype but no single airplane does everything. The good news is that there is a lot of variety out there. The trick is to think very carefully about the kind of flying you will do regularly, not the flight that would be really cool to do if you had the chance. In other words, spend wisely and borrow your buddy's plane for that bucket list item!😄
Windows don’t open??
Nice!! And they have the RV-15 in a trike landing gear arrangement as well? Have fun at Oshkosh Juan! Eagerly awaiting more! :)
140kts! Terrific.
Looks almost like Air tractor gear.
They have given much information on this aircraft like build time.
G,day Juan from Sydney Australia.
RV-15 STOL
Why are there no trim tabs on the elevators, like the 172 etc?
🌏🇦🇺
It appears to have an anti-servo tab like Piper uses on Cherokees.
Seems to me if you have the time and money what is the advantage of this plane over the carbon cub?
2 extra seats? 🤷🏼♂
How do you reckon it compares against the Husky????, Capt!
2+2 seating is a term used by Glasair for the "Sportsman 2+2". Seating is side by side and back to back, 4 adult seating. Great plane also. I have the Carbon/quick build kit. Not finished yet unfortunately.
I hope you can see mike patey at oshkosh, amazing man.
They did a great STOL talk together today.
@@Jeffopar hope Juan post it.
So is that spring steel gear painted, polished or Electrolytic plated? If plated, how do they preclude hydrogen embrittlement?
Does that $50,000 include avionics? All the best from Canada
Less than likely. Usually kit prices don't include avionics, engine, paint and upholstery.
No other kit they sell does. This will be 150k+ USD to build I'd imagine.
Hello Earth 2 Dennis , Star date year 2022 $$$ ,far off on a planet named CANADA !!
No.
50K +/_ is a GREAT DEAL.
Is that anti servo tab on the stabilator? Are they using steel core or hallow rivets? Think of the corrosion factor especially if it goes on floats. They better have a inspection panel in the floor under your feet for the shock absorbers there
I bought the Carbon Cub. Awkward, lol
Looks like a baby Helio Courier.
I wondered where my straw hat got to.
It's Murphy Radical on steroids then?
Are there any small jets there Juan.
At 3:15 do you think these holes will be covered somehow in the production kit?
This is what Cessna should have built when they were designing/contemplating the 162.
Why? They already have this in the 180, essentially.
180, my thought too.
But make one cheaper, smaller, lighter, for training, maybe with a Rotax. And two persons.
It’s a 170
Vans jumped on the backcountry bandwagon
Are the RV15 and Kodiak the only planes introduced? is that par for the course or are there normally more planes anounced. I guess there aren't that many new planes popping up in GA.
but where is the cup holder
the people at Murphy Aircraft won't be sleeping well when the kits start selling...:(
Stol plane? Like a kit fox??
I LIKE that... :) I hope they don't do nuttin stupid like make it an electruic leech on the GRID ;) cooool plane! :) how good it gunna do on FLOATS???
Here is my question. Why would anyone use pop rivets? I prefer to do it the old fashioned way with an air hammer and a bucking bar.
Pop rivets are faster and they allow for predrilled holes in the panels.
And to add to your reply, not a lot of people know how to hard rivet correctly and may not have the inclination to learn nor the time. It opens the build to a larger group of people I think.
Adding on to what people are saying here already, pop rivets can be easily done with one person. Especially for fuselage skinning that is generally difficult with the old school method.
I would also imagine it's easier to do field repairs with pop rivets if needed. That was the only reason I could come up with.
When the competition in the all aluminum backcountry kit plane market are using blind rivets, you probably feel you kind of have to.
Oshkosh B'gosh!
They wanted their own Draco? :) 50k isn't bad although the engine is 40k+? really not a big fan of kit building, imagine buying bare parts from a car maker and having to do it all yourself. Including paint. Hopefully the proposal for factory built experimentals is approved. And factory built experimentals should be encouraged to be a step towards certification. An FAA guy can assess the design and by virtue of practical tests in owner hands it can be fully certified. Kit building is part of the poor state of GA. It's way too cuba.
Is the stabilator a complexity risk? seems a little ambitious for a kit.
Looks like you’ll need to move on from considering this 👋🏻
@@Ts-zy4bw from what? bettering GA? no