The Worst Brazil Team Ever? | RTÉ Soccer
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- Is this the worst Brazil team in history? John Giles, Eamon Dunphy and Dietmar Hamann debate the point after the Selecao's victory on penalties over Chile in the 2014 FIFA World Cup Round of 16.
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He was right the whole time, 1-7 then 0-3.
Dunphy was 100% correct Brazil 1-7 Germany !
After seeing what happened at Estadio Mineirão, the answer is most assuredly, "Yes!"
Dunphy claiming Neymar isn't world class. What an embarrassment he is. The lad is 22, less than a third of the age of Dunphy, and he has already carried more hope and expectation than Dunphy could dream of. The reason Brazil struggled yesterday is because Neymar struggled. The team is poor I agree with that, but the notion that Neymar isint world class is ridiculous. At international level, Neymar has scored 35 goals and got 20 assists in 53 games. That's a phenomenal stat. I have never seen so much weight placed on one lad's shoulders, but of course Dunphy can't even relate to than.
Just because dunphy was never a good player doesn't mean he can't have an opinion on whether Neymar is world class. That's like saying you or me can't say Tom Cleverley isn't world class because we're not professional footballers.
I agree with you though that Dunphy is wrong and Neymar is certainly a world class player though.
Cathal Ryan Tom Cleverley has never held a nation on his back, Neymar is currently doing that. Never before has so much pressure been heaped on one playe
Yeah Neymar undoubtedly top drawer, a future great.
Cathal Ryan
Well, he did say that Neymar failed in europe. Which is wrong. At the first half of the season, Neymar was Barça's best player. He was outshining player's like Messi, Fabregas and Iniesta. Then after his injury, he wasn't the same player.
Dunphy is the man who said Ronaldo was a nothing player
Your judgement on Dunphy as a footballer was needless, one doesn't need to have been a World Beater to analyse football.
But everything else you said is right. I believe Dunphy looks at Stats more than watches him, which is evident by his assessment on Neymar's time at Barcelona.
I also get annoyed with his constant criticism of the Confederations Cup.
God i miss dunphy he was a legend nobody like him anywhere on any channel
This isn't a matter of the quality of the players, it's a matter of creating a team and excellent match preparation. These things can happen to any team in the world. It's the worst nightmare of all coaches. The main error: Lack of respect of the other team.
By the standards of Brazilian sides it was a very mediocre one, Neymar dragged them kicking and screaming to those semi-finals.
This is the worst Brazil team i've ever seen but hes wrong about Neymar. He's right about the overall team though. Oscar, Hulk, Lucas, Fred, Fernandinho etc aren't on the same level as Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaka, Rivaldo, Roberto Carlos.
They didn't even bring Coutinho.
dunphy is right about neymar in fairness look at him since this world cup he hasn't done anything amazing stuck in psg for years now failed to win a thing hasn't come close to a ballon d'or way overrated
Neymar is a pussy prima donna... looks like he goes into labour at the sign of a tackle. Over-rated. Over-priced. Never a man.
@@shutup2751 Aged like milk now , Neymar has been world class ever since that World Cup. Sure, he has had his up and downs but he is still a magical player who has given his all for PSG.
@ThisIsMyRodrick are you nuts he is a overrated idiot who likes to roll around. Dunphey was right
Eamon was right all along, about Brazil and Neymar
i agree its the worst Brazil team ever but Neymar is world class he is there best player why is Fred,Paulinho,Jo and Hulk in the Brazil team they are terrible so i agree with Dunphy except what he said about Neymar
Brazil where shocking.....! The Brazil squad at the 2006 World Cup was way better then the 2014 squad..... Brazils Samba boys of 2002 were awesome..... What can you say!? ✌️
Fred, Hulk, Joe? Such memorable players.
good one
I remember Fred 😂
Brazil got a good bit of help from the refs some fairly disgraceful calls in the Croatia game
In every game up til the semis
In terms of the squad, yes, it is the worst Brazil team in history? It was all about Neymar who carried the Selecao on his back before his injury against Colombia.
The 2014 squad absolutely had no depth behind Neymar and their defense was shaky throughout the tournament.
The other five Brazil FIFA World Cup champions? They had depth surrounding their stars like the Three Rs and Kaka and had a solid defense led by Cafu and Roberto Carlos.
The worst part is that the worst Brazil team ever is still better than the best Ireland team ever.
It's the beginning of 2018, and my daddy (or maybe he's my uncle), John Giles, was right: Neymar has turned out to be a very good player, but no Messi.... well, that was an easy call... Who can be another Messi? At least Brazil 2014 gave World Cup fans another unforgettable memory, even if it was at Brazil's own great expense! The Mineirazo will go down in legend as an epic debacle (it should also erase the memory of the Maracanazo). Anyway, Brazil should do better in Russia this summer... but that's an easy call, too.
The standard from South America has fallen.. Regarding to the style of their players.. The skill mixed with tactics and aggression.. The basti goal ect.. For Brazil Ronaldo, Rivaldo ect.. While European major teams have gotten better.. The rest of the world has done backwards.. Maybe Asia has, improved.. Africa does not have george weah types, george findi ect.. Players with some high awareness of the game.. Even the level of physical fitness has to go to the Europeans, coach ect..
Brazil 2014 compared to Brazil 1982, the gulf is huge,light years between the 2 teams. Brazil 82 is magic,Brazil 2014 is dog turd. Amen.
but saying neymar wasn't world class is ridiculous
@@rohithraman6488I didn’t say Neymar wasn’t world class,Brazil 2014 was complete rubbish as a team,worst ever dude. Amen
@@zzzaaa0990 Oh yeah I agree but I am just saying that Dunphy is talking nonsense when he is saying neymar isn't world class. But yeah, brazil 2014 was just Thiago silva, Neymar and 9 others
Müller, Schürrle, Klose, Schweinsteiger are all better than Messi or Ronaldo Accept that
You German yes...lol
And now they don't have Neymar!
Finally a properish review of that horrible game. You know it has been a year but as a staunch Brazil supporter, it still haunts me to this day. I kind of knew that Brazil will be humiliated when I looked at that squad. Here's how I think Brazil truly messed up: 1) Luiz Phil Schlari's selection for 2014 world cup was truly awe full to say the least. You choose guys like Fred, Jo, Dante etc and you don't choose Miranda, Filipe Luis, Philipe Coutinho, Roberto Firminho and Diego Alvez ? I mean you are preferring a third choice goal keeper over a world class goal keeper? 2) Phil Scholari's squad selection for the semi final was even more messed up. Germans are very dominating in the midfield and always like that possession game, so if you don't have a world class squad, you have to play a defensive game with your midfield stacked up.
A (4 - 2 - 3 - 1) was not a good formation for that game. They shouldve played 4 - 3 - 3 with this squad:
Hulk
Oscar Willian
Ramires Luis Gustavo Fernandinho
Marcelo Dante David Luiz (C) Maicon
Julio Cesar
This Squad is based on the selection scholari made for this World Cup. Even though I dont agree with his choice of selections for the world cup, but If he made the right selections for this match, it could've been a better one. In this squad there are 3 defensive midfielders that allow David Luiz to move forward without any worry because luiz gustavo usually moves back to support defence. Marcello wouldve been supported by Ramires that wouldve allowed marcelo to move forward freely. Willian is another hard worker that came on at the 70th minute mark but it was too late .. he wouldve supported maicon that wouldve allowed maicon to move forward. Oscar SHOULDVE been started on neymars position because thats the place he couldve made a difference in. And hulk is there for fred because hulk wouldve made a million times more difference. Goal keeper stays the same. If scholari carefully assessed his options, the game against germany wouldve been less embarasing and Brazil couldve actually given the germans a stern test. Finally, This was how the brazil squad shoudve been in the 2014 world cup:
Firminho
Neymar Hulk
Oscar
Luis Gustavo Fernandinho
Filipe Luis Miranda Thiago Silva Danillo
Diego Alvez
I could Almost Guarantee you that brazil wouldve won with this squad with the right luck, and ofcourse neymar and thiago silva being included in squad. Blaming the result on the outtage of neymar and thiago silva is utterly BS because you have to be ready no matter what. When your main player/s go out, you make appropriate changes to squad and make appropriate tactical changes to cope with the loss of the main player/s.
I hope Brazil win Copa America this year in order to Restore their pride. Even if they don't win, I firmly believe in Dunga to get most OUT of the Brazilian squad. You will not see this sort of than embarrassing result with Dunga.
+Canadian Pranks: Hulk would have been in your first-choice Brazilian side? There is a reason that he still plays for Zenit St. Petersburgh---he's no bloody good! And you do realize that Dunga was at the helm when Brazil crashed out in the quarter finals of the 2010 World Cup, right?
Dunga crashed out in the Q final in 2010 with a much better squad than Scholari. The fact Scholari was able to get the worse Brazilian team in history to a semi final should be applauded. That being said, his squad selection was his fault. The Brazil team of 2010 was aging even then but they still should've done better than Q final. Dunga has got nothing on Scholari
Very insightful comment. Looking at the world game after Qatar 🇶🇦 2022.
Dunphy didn't mention at age 22, Neymar has already scored more goals than Ronaldinho for the Selecao.
Considering the likes of Fred and Paulinho make the team every week, it would seem as if Neymar is single handedly carrying this Brazil side, with the expectations of an entire nation on his very own shoulders.
Concerning his 100m valuation, firstly Barca didn't even pay half that much for him, and secondly in the modern football world, where Gareth Bale is worth 100m euros, I would say 100m is an undervaluation for a talent like Neymar.
Neymar plays a more forward role than Ronaldinho did though, Ronaldinho was more of a playmaker
Valid point.
neymar was and still is crap
If Dunphy knew half as much as he thinks he knows he would know a lot
He's right though and this makes no sense
@@JRK2669 he wasn’t he said Neymar failed in Europe then the season after this 2014-15. He wins the treble with Barcelona.
Eamon was spot on with Neymar, turns out to be absolute bluffer when it really counts
He finished 3rd in the Ballon d'or twice, is his country's all time top scorer and has over 400 career goals. I don't think that's too bad
No top players!? NEYMAR, THIAGO SILVA.
+Marco Peruzzo
Silva is a top Centre Back, no doubt. But he makes mistakes every now and then. He lacks consistency in my opinion. I suppose what I'm trying to say is that there have been other centre backs that weren't as good as him with the ball, but were much more consistent, such as Hyppiä, for example, or Diego Lugano when he was younger
It's not a great side. Too many of their players are average or just hard working runners. Home advantage and being Brazil is carrying them through but Germany will knock them out. Colombia should but they won't be brave enough even if Neymar doesn't play.
Turns out you were right.
Hope you put money down
one of the biggest drummings ever at the World Cup. Brazil never knew what postition they playing....
Neymar is a cod Bill!!!
Is he going to be is he going to be is this all you guys talk of football ask that to fans not arm chair experts
I am Brazilian and I do not agree with this please for speech iso
I am dutch ANd Will tell you this; Brazil Will always come back and do have an exceptional player in Neymar. But compared to 30/40 years ago , football has more developed and competition is stronger Now. Strong african teams , european and South american .
That was easily the worst Brazilian team of all team. They struggled even to get to the semi finals.losing 10 goals in their last 2 games is humiliating. Brazil should be scoring 10 goals in 2 games and not conceding them.
I thought 2010 was worse with Bastos, Melo and Nilmar
No chance. 2010 Brazil had Julio Cesar, Lucio, Maicon (prime version, not the crappy 2014 version), Juan, Robinho, Kaka, Luis Fabiano, young Thiago Silva, Dani Alves. They were clearly better than 2014 Brazil and they would never have been destroyed 7-1.
And the tea lady had Barack Obama on the sofa while Dunphy was scribbling on his arse
"Neymar, in Europe, he's failed."
Many league titles and champions league titles later.
He still failed everyone thought that he would have 3 ballon dors in 2022 he was never close to Messi or CR7 until now
@@goat5105 No one thought anyone would win anything until Messi and Ronaldo were done. And only Modric has won one in the last 15 years.
@@goat5105 No shame in it though. At his peak (2013-17) even though it wasn't very long he was the 3rd best player in the world
@@goat5105 This is proof that Messi and CR7 have spoiled us all. Neymar had to compete with Messi and Ronaldo when they were scoring 50 goals a season. He probably should have done better but to say he's a failure is outrageous
And now neymar is one of the best players in the world..
Yeah but he's only one of the best players in the world, not the best. Past Brazilian sides routinely had 4 or 5 players in their side who could walk into any other team in the world, backed up by a host of top class players.
No he is not.. He just rolls around like a girl.. Lol.. Wat has he won..
He is a good player no doubt but as eamon said in comparison to 2002 world cup final team hes not there. Their front 3 for the final were Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho. He's not getting in that team in my opinion
Dunphy talking out of his arse again about Neymar, didnt he also say C Ronaldo was rubbish a long time ago!
No he said he was a disgrace, which I agree with.
Paulie Walnuts well i dont think Neymar was a disgrace, he scored 4 goals and got a bad Brazil team as far as he cud, u seen tonight how they bad they were without him, n T Silva, but to be fair they were right about Brazil, where the idiots in BBC were praising them to the hilt, but wasnt that obvious?
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I was watching RTE and Dunphy was talking out of his arse again. But Ronaldo is still a disgrace.
Paulie Walnuts well i think he has matured, was way worse years ago
I usually don't listen to Hamann it's hard to take someone's opinion on sport seriously when they have lost many millions betting on sport.
But he does make a great point about messi/barcelona.
Neymar has failed in Europe has he Eamon 😂😂😂😂😂🖕🖕🖕
yeah he has what has he won since absolutely nothing 1 champions league six years ago now left barcelona because he wasn't good enough and went to psg where he has done nothing
@@shutup2751 He didn't leave Barca cause he wasn't good enough. He left Barca on his own accord. If you ask me whether it was a mistake, I said at the time that it was because he was amazing at Barcelona. And the fact that he has scored over 400 career goals, has won a UCL among many other trophies and is his country's all time record goalscorer doesn't constitute a failed career
I think 2010 Brazil team was worst tho
2014 were way worse, 7-1 nuff said.
dude in 2010 they still had quite a few world class players
kaka, dani alves maicon, lucio, julio cesar in goal...
and several other darn good players like robinho, gilberto silva,juan luis fabiano...
No way. Their team may have been aging but they would still thrash the 2014 Brazil. The 2010 had a lot more world class players and the team should've done better than a Q final. Scholari is a much better manager than Dunga, the fact he got that 2014 Brazil team to a semi final was impressive. Dunga failed to get that far with a much better team 4 years earlier
not taking any info from englands b team
Eamon dunphy always the complainer eamon dunphy wouldnt be able to kick eggs
Dunphy who..
dunphy drunk again :)