tbh it felt like she came back to be a part of her graduation. most of them have said theyd known it was coming for a few months i imagine shion was the same
"Heard joke once: Woman goes to doctor. Says she's depressed. Says life seems harsh and cruel. Doctor says 'Treatment is simple. Murasaki Shion is streaming tonight. Go and watch her. That should pick you up.' Woman bursts into tears. Says 'but, doctor...' '... I am Murasaki Shion.'"
there are type of person who once the hobby they love becomes a job, they started to hate it. because once something become a job, you cannot do whatever you want like when it is hobby. it becomes a commitment to make the job works. ppl who reached this stage usually already in a well off situation that they have room to think where they wanna go next
All of the Hololive fans that become members that don't have time to just watch clips and streams the same way they used to... Something like Mumei, who was a big Ina fan, that had no idea about the "TOMORROW" for a long time after it happened
Yep, that's pretty much why I don't really agree with 'if you work a job you like, you'll never work a day in your life', which is BS. Even if you do make your hobby became a career, make sure to have hobbies that doesn't make money, not everything need to be monetized.
This is why i will never work as a cook, because i love making food and trying different recipes but i would hate to be forced to cook the same dishes day after day. Also having to calculate the cost of ingridients to make something new profitable. That would have ruined my hobby.
Actually happen to me haha, i love graphic design and social media basically and its become my job rn. Do i hate it? yes and no. I do enjoyed it but there will be challenges and sometimes you will not like it, like you feeling sick to do that, but i rather do what i love rn rather do a job that i don't like everyday
so I guess shion's mental is about the same as Hoshikawa who enjoys hololive. Maybe shion should've joined Niji instead but seeing how Niji turned out think she dodged a bullet lmao
It’s understandable, her life is basically her job. Needing to go do recordings and practices during the day and streaming during the night. Anyone would feel burnt out from it, especially given she’s done it for 6 years now.
@@dkosmari her job is def more stressful than my job (IT). I work 8 hours a day except for the weekend but I can do my job without talking to another human being sometimes. I cant fathgom having to keep talking and entertaining thousands of people
@@ライトKIRA Yeah, quite dissapointing really. There're more instances of this too. Sometimes english grammar seems to be irrevelant to the translator and sometimes omission is overused. Really weird as I've been watching for quite a bit and this is the first time that translation quality has been this poor.
@@jairomenares2089 That definitely puts a harsher tone on the video, unless that is some kind of Japanese turn of phrase. Seems like she got really depressed and dissociated. Glad she was able to take time, and hopefully she is doing better now.
On one hand, I'm obviously happy to see her back from her hiatus, but on other hand I'm sad that she had to return in these circumstances. As to why she take her hiatus, remember that she's been doing this for 6 years without interruption, basically. And she's one of the youngest members of Hololive, so quite understandable she had a hard time figuring what and how to do things. They didn't expect to be a known Internet-figure in 6-7 years. Most of them used the Internet for mere entertainment and started as hobbyists. Now, they are expected to "be professionals" and are kind of stuck between "enjoyment" vs "success". I imagine all of the girls are trying their hardest everyday to balance these two sides where they can experience both while taking care of themselves in the process. Hope Shion and the others girls don't push themselves too far.
Shion only chose to do a part-time job while in high school. She's in a position of privilege, but like... they never imagined signing up for this. People like Marine have been in the workforce. Those who joined from college or in later gens know this could be a career. It's either a choice they made going in or a choice they know they would easily make again because of life experience. Shion and Haachama though... this life chose them, and they have nothing to compare to. It's no surprise to feel lost without that reference.
Ahhh poor Shion, I think a lot of us know what's like to go, "I want to have a job doing what I like, but turning what I like into my job feels bad." But even besides that, ego-searching to see how people react to a tweet, shows so well how hard it is to separate the "practical" side of streaming from the "emotional" side. She literally CANNOT avoid social media as a streamer.
I am glad that she is surrounded with supporting friends, fans and workers too! welcome back, is really hard to draw the line when your joy becomes your job so you can't relax at any moment but if you're a tryhard, it becomes stressful, if you're stressed it affects your streams so it turns into a circle of anxiety where finding the perfect balance seems impossible... So she did the right thing by stepping back and taking a breather, and also yeah internet is really hostile and if your job is linked to the internet, you cant avoid the toxicity.
Glad to see the kusogaki witch back in action. The break from streaming and the digital detox was worth it it seems. She also gained some introspection about how she wants to approach things as a job versus a fun hobby with benefits. Doesn't hurt to think about that when you're staring at the end of the college experience. 😅 I'm glad Shion made it back to properly send off Aqua before her graduation from Hololive. These two are quite the pair, and I'm going to miss that once it's gone.
If Hololive wasn't a place where you could just take over half year long breaks if you're feeling burnt out then I think we would have gotten A LOT MORE graduations by now. Thank god for Hololive tbh.
🤞. Honestly it doesn't to be strick. They don't produce products by demand. The talents themselves are the resource. The merch sold are because of their existence. Pushing them to entertain is the equivalent of a circus animal in captivity. They're compote streamers but still a streamer with a very loos leeway on the community.
Well, even before becoming Shion, she already streamed long enough on her fanbox... no wonder she been thinking about whether "streaming is job" for her or not... Also, once she finished college she would really need to start thinking about career & future job... There's probably already a job fair introduction being held by her college (usually 1 year before graduation) to introduce entry level occupation. Hololive already become very big that doing streaming as "part time job" (like Aki or Mel in the past) won't be possible anymore, especially now that Cover went absolutely ham on 3D live & real-life events.
This is me, i can relate to this when i start drawing as a hobby i love it so much, i can do it for 4-8 hours nonstop, but when i get more skilled and people commissioned me, it puts pressure and it feels like we constanly being chased by deadline that make it not fun and consider it as a job not a hobby anymore, to the point im scared to touch my pen
@@botbaki9303 The problem is that maybe the person invested so much time and/or money to work on this, and now its way difficult to specialize in another type of work and maintain this only as a hobby.
I can kind of understand what she means. It happens to everyone in any field, more so for dedicated people that integrated their jobs into their lives.... Even if you were born to do something out of sheer talent and or from your own will. This is why people always say, it hits less when you play a character and wear a mask to protect yourself... but these girls are basically entertaining us with alot of their true selves. You eventually hit that wall. The one question that makes you question your relevancy and you start feeling less motivated about what you used to do.. What im worried about is that sometimes even breaks can't solve that concern your routines just catch up to you that your lost when stepping into a new field and its overwhelming. Shion is at that critical turning point that we all fear, and i hope her fans stay with her and can remind her that what she's experiencing is normal, it will always be there and its something she must accept. She just needs to look back and ask herself again what pushed into doing this again? is it for her fans? Its time to redefine her purpose on why she started, and why she had fun and loved doing this in the first place
Thank you for translating this important scene of this stream! As a shiokko, I’m really happy to see her again for the first time in 8 months (I thought she would be on hiatus for at least a year). And personally though I’ve always been thinking of something like what she said here. Even with such a hardship, she has chosen to come back and I really look up to her and also am grateful to her. Some people are pessimistic and it is also understandable, especially in regards to Aqua, but I was able to see that she’s enjoying the environment she is in now from, for example, the scene she was talking about other members (I’m personally glad to hear her talking about Gura btw). All we can do is to support and enjoy watching her stream. I hope from the bottom of my heart that she will have a great time from here.
Indefinite break > Black on white announcement regarding Murasaki Shion on Hololives Twitter... Give dem talents all the time they need for physical and mental health, also family.
I think hololive might be the best about this, although other agencies definitely do well with it, too. You get Korone manager and Kaela manager telling them to take breaks etc. Gura, Ina, Ojou, Nene, among others have taken extended hiatus. I think the talents having that option to focus on other things in life only nurtures positive energy, and I'm very happy these girls are in good hands.
I think it was Marine with Aqua's announcement who said that breaks are nice because you know they'll be back, no matter how long they take a hiatus. That's why those announcements are good, you lose someone temporarily so they come back better. It sucks to know we're not far from probably never seeing Aqua (even not as Aqua) and Shion interact on stream anymore, or any of the other members.
Sometimes, it's a Talent themselves that prefer to have lot of workloads. Take Kobo for example. By far she has the most packed schedule in hololive in terms of offline event such as holo meet, live concert, stage event, etc, since last year. . But aside from streaming absent, she refused to take a long break even when she got sick, which is kinda concerning. At this point, i hope their manager have some kinda "veto" to force any workaholic talent to just stop & rest.
It's not strange at all for someone to have these existential thoughts after streaming for so long and having this become such a big part of your life. 'Is this really what I want to do? I've already committed so much of my time to it, what if it's the wrong choice?' I think it's completely normal for someone to have thoughts like this. I'm glad she decided to come back and I hope she continues for as long as she cares to.
everyone needs a moment in their life to find themselves, especially when your days start being more of the same, fully understand where Shion is coming from
remember, 2nd generation were joined before the Vtubing booming. I think at that time, even Talents themselves would think this is just a long shot. They streaming for fun for their own hobby. But since Holo and Vtubing grows so fast, Some of them will face some obstacle like Shion. The moment hobby becomes a job. She deserves a good peace rest to order her thoughts.
8:52 That's honestly beautiful she comes back expecting some sort backlash and bad mouth and instead finds her fanbase and co-workers all welcoming her with open arms.
Seriously, i hate having a sense of obligation on the things i love doing. Once its there, you'll feel more tiresome doing stuff you always do. It isn't the same comfort zone you thought of it once before. Especially for shion who basically lives her life "my pace", hololive growing is all ups and downs to her as a person.
this is why kay yu refuses to accept payment for holocure. its his hobby and when you add money to the equation it becomes an obligation to continue working on it. it becomes a job.
Shion was, since the beginning, a person very sensitive to bad comments and criticism from social media. She has a very popular clip screaming "I DON'T DO INSTAGRAM!!!" So you can sense she is affected more than others about social life 😅
Thank you for the long translation!! I was so happy to see Shion back I was hoping someone would clip the start. She sounded so happy to be streaming again!
Not wanting to take something you like to do as a job is a curse. You either walk away and regret it or stay there and hope that you won't regret it. But it will be fine that's what life is about anyway.
i noticed this too and idk why the clipper doesnt mention this specifically especially when this actually kinda heavy but i think its a good thing she think about those stuff, makes her grow stronger as a person
Thanks so much for the clip and translation, so glad to see Shion back streaming again even if I don't know Japanese, she's one of the best singers in hololive and i always look forward to her singing.
I'm so happy she's back, felt pretty sad I overslept and missed her comeback stream Thank you for your clips, and especially in sending her messages to the fandom, we should really spread more positivity regardless wherever we are on the internet
MMmmmmmm.. She's have a point though, It's not just about "Cover getting Big". It's about "She's(Murasaki Shion) getting Big. in one side there's her fanbase then Cover+Hololive Fanbase then VTuber Fanbase then Internet Content Creator/Streamer Fanbase then the Combinations of above Fanbase then in the other side of the "Opposite" side of mentioned party then there's the bottom feeders that will use any type of "drama" caused by combinations above to got pennies from the Internet Engagement and all of them equally rabid and unhinged when putting Internet Anonymity masks/PFP. If someone that in her positions doesn't have the correct person to gives a correct advice or pep-talk things can goes awry fasts. Then Holopro Managerial competence is the only defining points on how Holopro will survives of "Getting too Big" And even if Holopro Managerial competence is Top Notch it's all come back to every Holopro talent if they actually want to reach out and ask council for it. In the end Like it or Not, "It's just a Job" is the correct statement, anyone can always quit if they feels it doesn't right anymore.
Glad she is back. She still sounds like she is hurting but I hope everyone will be able to help her along the way. Good luck and glad you are back, Shion.
It’s complicated because doing something you love for a living can be extremely liberating but also requires a certain seriousness. I think not thinking of it as a “job” but not a “hobby” exactly either is the real way, it’s no longer a no stakes play time like a hobby but it’s also not something you do just for someone else (how I view a job: as something you wouldn’t do if they weren’t paying you). I think a true pro mindset in the entertainment or arts is one that rejects thinking of it as a job or as a hobby, that keeps the aspect of doing what you want and having fun while also doing it at a high level.
So glad she is back and in all honesty taking an indefinite break is something all these girls should do at some point no set time to be back take all the time you need a chance to truly heal.
I'm glad she's back just in time before Aqua depart. Aqua and Shion was one of the best tee tee duo back in the day. I hope she will collab and cherish those moments with Aqua before the end of this month. Aqua graduation without Shion would feel like a chunk missing.
Painful, but you hear it all the time sadly; 999 nice and supportive comments but the handful of negative and mean comments are the ones that will sit with you the longest. I hope she will learn to deal with that as best to her ability. All we can do is keep on sending her positive comments and vibes and keep on supporting her no matter how she feels. And I'm glad Hololive takes their members serious and give them the time to take good and healthy long breaks if needed. All and all, I'm just happy to see Shion back.
Shion is so cute~ it's just jealous people planting seeds for other dumbs to anti/cancel her. So what if she's caught playing valorant instead of streaming 3 years ago? So what if she was dating? fake or true, does it even matter? Antis who aren't even real fans feeling entitled??
I think it's the whole "idol" title that's throwing them off. Typically it would be a whole "scandal" if idols were caught dating because (at least on paper) it goes against their contract with the agency. However, Matsuri said in a stream a while ago that there are actually no restrictions on Hololive members being in relationships, so it doesn't matter if anyone is dating or married or whatever. Antis just bring up those speculations because that's what they think would harm the talents, even though it really doesn't matter at all.
It feels so nice to be surrounded by all these positive vibes from each and everyone of you holofans here. The world out there is really harsh and messy as it is so lets make each day a happy day. welcome back kusogaki garlic!
Shion is "always expect for the worst" person, and also the most introverted as well. That why I really like her, and I wish her the strength to deal with whatever come in the future
Questioning her future is understandable considering that streaming is all she ever knew about work since she joined Hololive while being in high school. I'm happy to have the garlic back. She is as Kusogaki as she was the day we lost her.
I can understand her mindset when she says “try not to think of this as a job” when you have a work mindset it feels more like a chore than a fun activity. Working with a work mindset works for some but for a lot of people psychologically it’s taxing thinking to yourself “oh I have to do this again today” I’ve been through that as well and it’s hard to break out of so I’m glad she got rest and time away from the internet
She was having burn out and early depression it seem. Glad she took a break, I'm happy people well v someday her. She mentioned back in December that the negative comments got her down, and it seem it still haunted her. Glad she feels welcomed.
It feels like an existential crisis anyone could have. She always has a choice, and as a fan, my duty is to respect and support whatever she wants to do. Shion's VODs are one of the places I go whenever I feel down and need some encouragement. Even if I don't understand everything she says, just hearing her kusogaki voice and laughter can make me feel better and refreshed. Since her job is all about entertaining people and bringing happiness to others, my only wish is that she also has someone who is to her what she is to me.
I must confessed friend , I never knew about Hololive till 2020 and I don't really watch any streams of the members . I hardly have any knowledge about them but I've learned enough for few of them , Aqua was the reason why I found out about Hololive . Seeing her leave I'm sure it must be breaking her heart just as it is for me , I hope Shion will be able to pull through strong and proud
@@SelecaoOfMidas The X trolls the fans send to Cover's legal department to take care of, and Nobody cares about the people on 2ch 4chan and others, what they say doesn't matter to the world
As i usually said since long ago to these girls (understood or not), there's nothing wrong with taking a break once in a while, not to burn themselves out for the sake of entertaining us, it's exactly for these kinds of reasons..🗿 Glad that she took such advices (obviously not from me, but anyways), hopefully she won't take things too seriously from now on, our sassy garlic is too precious..😌
this looks like a quarter life crisis for me. there's probably some delayed puberty and our magical garlic is trying her best to figure out herself and what her really wants. wish her best of luck.
"my words are hard to understand"... Maybe its because im dumb af and dont know how to explain myself too but i understand every single word she said because i had that existential crisis too... But im so glad she is back, i missed her so bad...
Welcome home shion. I’m happy to see so many nice messages towards shion coming back and she couldn’t find any harmful comments I really missed her. Maybe we will get one final garlic and onion collab 😢
always nice to see someone coming back, hopefully she’s refreshed and good to go! i really feel like the internet is starting to give people midlife crisis before they even hit midlife sometimes.
Man, feels like ages since I've heard her voice. I hope this will be the last time she takes a hiatus. It will be sad if some unfortunate reason happened to her while she was inactive.
Thanks for subs. Now i feel more up to date on things. Im glad people were nice to her. Although i do think Its impossible to please everyone on the internet and in the world. So its impossible to not find negative comments. I really feel to people who are sensitive to negative comments streaming might not be for them. I'm kinda scared how it can affect them. You need to be a really strong person to put up with negative comments as a streamer. Especially when she says she's scared.. yeahhh..
oh of course. I always understand what is going on in Shion's mind.but thankfully it turns out that Shion is fine and thanks for the advice, Noises VTubers
Hows the baby doing (reddit meme) That speculation got me laughing the first time i saw it and still holding, its himarious how people in reddit jump to that conclusion so fast lol
According to reddit users, at least half if not 75% of the members have at least 1 child. And their only reason to assume that is the breaks they take, nothing else. Is kinda funny but also sad
i am generally supportive of taking breaks, but after hearing her reasons im even more glad that she specifically chose to take an indefinite break...job/deadline/timeline pressure is insidious
This is my opinion, but I will be perfectly honest, I wouldn't be surprised if Shion also plans to graduate or at least plans to go back to a long break after Aqua leaves. After all, she originally joined a very small company with a niche audience to stream, then it became huge several years later and now it became like a professional job with lots of work and responsibilities than what she originally signed up for, compared to later Gens, so it wouldn't be surprising if it becomes too much for her.
Ngl, I'm with you on that!. Aqua's reasons for graduating might be a trigger for some of the girls who have those same thoughts. Especially for the early generations, the Hololive they've debuted in is long gone. So, as much as I would like to see them stay, it's more than likely that we saw a lot more graduations/indefinite hiatus in the near future.
Idk if i spent my whole life on the internet too! A deep part of me would think i’m wasting my life away recording & streaming… And it feels like I’m on a time limit I would go crazy! Like i need to do this & that before i get old… Also wouldn’t like to think of streaming like full time job! So somewhat makes sense! (Probably not related at all) Anyway she really needed that break.
Those quarter-life crisis probably also played a role in those thinking of hers. A period in time when you start questioning your life choices and future.
Most people tend to jump jobs around the 5-6 year mark, maybe it's time to do something else. This indefinite break is a good opportunity to do some soul searching.
I understand her stress and feelings but... I still think is worse to not have a Job 😅 we need to organize our feelings, appreciate what we have, and try to do our jobs in the most positive way, i think.
With aqua leaving. I'm sure it must be harder on shion coming back right when aqua is going.
tbh it felt like she came back to be a part of her graduation. most of them have said theyd known it was coming for a few months i imagine shion was the same
I'm pretty sure aqua said she and shion will do a collab soon. Guess it's one of the reasons shion's comeback around this time.
@@azer5703 hope it going up soon
@@skyzero27 They will do the collab tomorrow
I am a bit afraid that after Aqua graduates she will resume her hiatus again...
"Heard joke once:
Woman goes to doctor. Says she's depressed. Says life seems harsh and cruel.
Doctor says 'Treatment is simple. Murasaki Shion is streaming tonight. Go and watch her. That should pick you up.'
Woman bursts into tears. Says 'but, doctor...'
'... I am Murasaki Shion.'"
"Man down, I repeat, man down. We need the medic"
"But, sir, HE is the medic."
Doctor: "Okay, then I got just the thing!"
** Gives her a mirror **
Damn this comment wins
@@deadlishaoranand a second Placer
@@captsomeguy1a the third placer
The "neeee~~"s are back. From this clip alone, I counted 31.
Nature is healing 🥰
Its been so long since I watched shion
Now I remember why she used to be my oshi
there are type of person who once the hobby they love becomes a job, they started to hate it. because once something become a job, you cannot do whatever you want like when it is hobby. it becomes a commitment to make the job works. ppl who reached this stage usually already in a well off situation that they have room to think where they wanna go next
All of the Hololive fans that become members that don't have time to just watch clips and streams the same way they used to... Something like Mumei, who was a big Ina fan, that had no idea about the "TOMORROW" for a long time after it happened
Yep, that's pretty much why I don't really agree with 'if you work a job you like, you'll never work a day in your life', which is BS.
Even if you do make your hobby became a career, make sure to have hobbies that doesn't make money, not everything need to be monetized.
This is why i will never work as a cook,
because i love making food and trying different recipes but i would hate to be forced to cook the same dishes day after day.
Also having to calculate the cost of ingridients to make something new profitable.
That would have ruined my hobby.
Actually happen to me haha, i love graphic design and social media basically and its become my job rn. Do i hate it? yes and no. I do enjoyed it but there will be challenges and sometimes you will not like it, like you feeling sick to do that, but i rather do what i love rn rather do a job that i don't like everyday
so I guess shion's mental is about the same as Hoshikawa who enjoys hololive. Maybe shion should've joined Niji instead but seeing how Niji turned out think she dodged a bullet lmao
It’s understandable, her life is basically her job. Needing to go do recordings and practices during the day and streaming during the night. Anyone would feel burnt out from it, especially given she’s done it for 6 years now.
Just like any regular job. Except you don't have the option to just go on hiatus and then come back.
Doesn't help that she's one of the younger members and basically joined HL out of high school. Of course she'd like to see and try other things.
@@dkosmari except in your normal jobs you don’t get crazy haters and stalkers commenting weird stuff about you everyday. Among other crazy stuff.
@@dkosmari her job is def more stressful than my job (IT). I work 8 hours a day except for the weekend but I can do my job without talking to another human being sometimes. I cant fathgom having to keep talking and entertaining thousands of people
its incredibly privileged yes. anyone else takes a month off work theyre homeless and without a job.
She went on soul searching and caught up with anime. Both important.
0:46 There is a slight translation error here.
She jokes that she's a “1002nd gen.”
Also a not so slight one at 3:12
"From there, it got to the point where I didn't even know why I'm alive"
It's hard to believe how terrible the whole TL was in this clip, zero respect to Shion from this clipper, pisses me off
@@jairomenares2089 yeah, that adds a little more weight to the whole thing, doesn't it
@@ライトKIRA Yeah, quite dissapointing really. There're more instances of this too. Sometimes english grammar seems to be irrevelant to the translator and sometimes omission is overused. Really weird as I've been watching for quite a bit and this is the first time that translation quality has been this poor.
@@jairomenares2089 That definitely puts a harsher tone on the video, unless that is some kind of Japanese turn of phrase. Seems like she got really depressed and dissociated. Glad she was able to take time, and hopefully she is doing better now.
The Magical Garlic is Back!!!!
Its not the same without the baka onion
@@bonten.True. Let's make the most of the Sauté duo until the time arrives.
On one hand, I'm obviously happy to see her back from her hiatus, but on other hand I'm sad that she had to return in these circumstances.
As to why she take her hiatus, remember that she's been doing this for 6 years without interruption, basically. And she's one of the youngest members of Hololive, so quite understandable she had a hard time figuring what and how to do things.
They didn't expect to be a known Internet-figure in 6-7 years. Most of them used the Internet for mere entertainment and started as hobbyists. Now, they are expected to "be professionals" and are kind of stuck between "enjoyment" vs "success". I imagine all of the girls are trying their hardest everyday to balance these two sides where they can experience both while taking care of themselves in the process.
Hope Shion and the others girls don't push themselves too far.
IIRC, Shion *is* the youngest in Hololive, IRL.
Shion only chose to do a part-time job while in high school. She's in a position of privilege, but like... they never imagined signing up for this.
People like Marine have been in the workforce. Those who joined from college or in later gens know this could be a career. It's either a choice they made going in or a choice they know they would easily make again because of life experience.
Shion and Haachama though... this life chose them, and they have nothing to compare to. It's no surprise to feel lost without that reference.
yup and i hope there's no antis/hater ruining their career , also wow idk that shion is the youngest
Ahhh poor Shion, I think a lot of us know what's like to go, "I want to have a job doing what I like, but turning what I like into my job feels bad."
But even besides that, ego-searching to see how people react to a tweet, shows so well how hard it is to separate the "practical" side of streaming from the "emotional" side. She literally CANNOT avoid social media as a streamer.
"え?ね" - shion 2024
I am glad that she is surrounded with supporting friends, fans and workers too! welcome back, is really hard to draw the line when your joy becomes your job so you can't relax at any moment but if you're a tryhard, it becomes stressful, if you're stressed it affects your streams so it turns into a circle of anxiety where finding the perfect balance seems impossible... So she did the right thing by stepping back and taking a breather, and also yeah internet is really hostile and if your job is linked to the internet, you cant avoid the toxicity.
Glad to see the kusogaki witch back in action. The break from streaming and the digital detox was worth it it seems. She also gained some introspection about how she wants to approach things as a job versus a fun hobby with benefits. Doesn't hurt to think about that when you're staring at the end of the college experience. 😅
I'm glad Shion made it back to properly send off Aqua before her graduation from Hololive. These two are quite the pair, and I'm going to miss that once it's gone.
If Hololive wasn't a place where you could just take over half year long breaks if you're feeling burnt out then I think we would have gotten A LOT MORE graduations by now. Thank god for Hololive tbh.
🤞.
Honestly it doesn't to be strick. They don't produce products by demand. The talents themselves are the resource. The merch sold are because of their existence. Pushing them to entertain is the equivalent of a circus animal in captivity.
They're compote streamers but still a streamer with a very loos leeway on the community.
@@NormanReaddis Compote streamer is so funny never fix it please
Well, even before becoming Shion, she already streamed long enough on her fanbox... no wonder she been thinking about whether "streaming is job" for her or not...
Also, once she finished college she would really need to start thinking about career & future job... There's probably already a job fair introduction being held by her college (usually 1 year before graduation) to introduce entry level occupation.
Hololive already become very big that doing streaming as "part time job" (like Aki or Mel in the past) won't be possible anymore, especially now that Cover went absolutely ham on 3D live & real-life events.
This is me, i can relate to this when i start drawing as a hobby i love it so much, i can do it for 4-8 hours nonstop, but when i get more skilled and people commissioned me, it puts pressure and it feels like we constanly being chased by deadline that make it not fun and consider it as a job not a hobby anymore, to the point im scared to touch my pen
it's a common strugle
Dont do comission or drawing for money, ez. Keep being happy
Turning a hobby into a job is the best way to lose a hobby
sell pictures on sites selling finished works. The income is obviously lower, but there are no deadlines)
@@botbaki9303 The problem is that maybe the person invested so much time and/or money to work on this, and now its way difficult to specialize in another type of work and maintain this only as a hobby.
I can kind of understand what she means.
It happens to everyone in any field, more so for dedicated people that integrated their jobs into their lives.... Even if you were born to do something out of sheer talent and or from your own will.
This is why people always say, it hits less when you play a character and wear a mask to protect yourself... but these girls are basically entertaining us with alot of their true selves.
You eventually hit that wall. The one question that makes you question your relevancy and you start feeling less motivated about what you used to do..
What im worried about is that sometimes even breaks can't solve that concern your routines just catch up to you that your lost when stepping into a new field and its overwhelming.
Shion is at that critical turning point that we all fear, and i hope her fans stay with her and can remind her that what she's experiencing is normal, it will always be there and its something she must accept. She just needs to look back and ask herself again what pushed into doing this again? is it for her fans? Its time to redefine her purpose on why she started, and why she had fun and loved doing this in the first place
I miss this kusogaki garlic 😭💜
Kusogarlic
Thank you for translating this important scene of this stream! As a shiokko, I’m really happy to see her again for the first time in 8 months (I thought she would be on hiatus for at least a year). And personally though I’ve always been thinking of something like what she said here. Even with such a hardship, she has chosen to come back and I really look up to her and also am grateful to her. Some people are pessimistic and it is also understandable, especially in regards to Aqua, but I was able to see that she’s enjoying the environment she is in now from, for example, the scene she was talking about other members (I’m personally glad to hear her talking about Gura btw). All we can do is to support and enjoy watching her stream. I hope from the bottom of my heart that she will have a great time from here.
sounds like a much needed break, hope she take things slowly
Indefinite break > Black on white announcement regarding Murasaki Shion on Hololives Twitter...
Give dem talents all the time they need for physical and mental health, also family.
I think hololive might be the best about this, although other agencies definitely do well with it, too. You get Korone manager and Kaela manager telling them to take breaks etc. Gura, Ina, Ojou, Nene, among others have taken extended hiatus. I think the talents having that option to focus on other things in life only nurtures positive energy, and I'm very happy these girls are in good hands.
I think it was Marine with Aqua's announcement who said that breaks are nice because you know they'll be back, no matter how long they take a hiatus. That's why those announcements are good, you lose someone temporarily so they come back better. It sucks to know we're not far from probably never seeing Aqua (even not as Aqua) and Shion interact on stream anymore, or any of the other members.
Sometimes, it's a Talent themselves that prefer to have lot of workloads. Take Kobo for example. By far she has the most packed schedule in hololive in terms of offline event such as holo meet, live concert, stage event, etc, since last year. . But aside from streaming absent, she refused to take a long break even when she got sick, which is kinda concerning. At this point, i hope their manager have some kinda "veto" to force any workaholic talent to just stop & rest.
this retores my faith in humanity, i can only wish she doing great in her future endeavor
0:15 she cried out to god 🤣
It's not strange at all for someone to have these existential thoughts after streaming for so long and having this become such a big part of your life. 'Is this really what I want to do? I've already committed so much of my time to it, what if it's the wrong choice?' I think it's completely normal for someone to have thoughts like this.
I'm glad she decided to come back and I hope she continues for as long as she cares to.
Thank you for the translation! Would love to see more of this stream
Kusogaki garlic has returned
everyone needs a moment in their life to find themselves, especially when your days start being more of the same, fully understand where Shion is coming from
remember, 2nd generation were joined before the Vtubing booming. I think at that time, even Talents themselves would think this is just a long shot. They streaming for fun for their own hobby. But since Holo and Vtubing grows so fast, Some of them will face some obstacle like Shion. The moment hobby becomes a job. She deserves a good peace rest to order her thoughts.
Missed her voice. Okaeri.
8:52 That's honestly beautiful she comes back expecting some sort backlash and bad mouth and instead finds her fanbase and co-workers all welcoming her with open arms.
Seriously, i hate having a sense of obligation on the things i love doing. Once its there, you'll feel more tiresome doing stuff you always do. It isn't the same comfort zone you thought of it once before. Especially for shion who basically lives her life "my pace", hololive growing is all ups and downs to her as a person.
this is why kay yu refuses to accept payment for holocure. its his hobby and when you add money to the equation it becomes an obligation to continue working on it. it becomes a job.
@@dawnseeker176 well that and copyright would be a big headache
@@dofyx1847 cover already reach out to him so copyright wont be that much of a problem
9:00 Bro, I legit thought shion will say "atishi no koto suki sugi tte omotte" 😭
I guess... This is the time to be full-time Shiokko, huh...
Shion was, since the beginning, a person very sensitive to bad comments and criticism from social media. She has a very popular clip screaming "I DON'T DO INSTAGRAM!!!" So you can sense she is affected more than others about social life 😅
One's own life is always one of the most important things so it's no wonder Shion did this. At least she's back after all
This was a very heartwarming speech, and it actually got me thinking about my own life as well.
100k viewers was crazy
Damn I missed that voice, laugh and smirk
Thank you for the long translation!! I was so happy to see Shion back I was hoping someone would clip the start. She sounded so happy to be streaming again!
Not wanting to take something you like to do as a job is a curse. You either walk away and regret it or stay there and hope that you won't regret it. But it will be fine that's what life is about anyway.
It's nice that she was able to see nothing but nice things about her. It's rare enough to see the internet coming together as a positive thing😊
3:11 "From there, I started wondering why I even live "
Pretty heavy, yeah.
That was pretty existential.
そうそう。それが正しい翻訳
i noticed this too and idk why the clipper doesnt mention this specifically
especially when this actually kinda heavy
but i think its a good thing she think about those stuff, makes her grow stronger as a person
Thanks so much for the clip and translation, so glad to see Shion back streaming again even if I don't know Japanese, she's one of the best singers in hololive and i always look forward to her singing.
Thank you for translating this. Shion is my JP oshi, so I’m happy to be able to understand what she was talking about in her return stream.
I'm so happy she's back, felt pretty sad I overslept and missed her comeback stream
Thank you for your clips, and especially in sending her messages to the fandom,
we should really spread more positivity regardless wherever we are on the internet
MMmmmmmm..
She's have a point though, It's not just about "Cover getting Big".
It's about "She's(Murasaki Shion) getting Big.
in one side there's her fanbase
then Cover+Hololive Fanbase
then VTuber Fanbase
then Internet Content Creator/Streamer Fanbase
then the Combinations of above Fanbase
then in the other side of the "Opposite" side of mentioned party
then there's the bottom feeders that will use any type of "drama" caused by combinations above to got pennies from the Internet Engagement
and all of them equally rabid and unhinged when putting Internet Anonymity masks/PFP.
If someone that in her positions doesn't have the correct person to gives a correct advice or pep-talk things can goes awry fasts.
Then Holopro Managerial competence is the only defining points on how Holopro will survives of "Getting too Big"
And even if Holopro Managerial competence is Top Notch it's all come back to every Holopro talent if they actually want to reach out and ask council for it.
In the end Like it or Not, "It's just a Job" is the correct statement, anyone can always quit if they feels it doesn't right anymore.
It's getting crazy, it's like filling for a very long vacation leave but you'll still have to work on the side for promotional materials 😭😭😭
Glad she is back. She still sounds like she is hurting but I hope everyone will be able to help her along the way.
Good luck and glad you are back, Shion.
It’s complicated because doing something you love for a living can be extremely liberating but also requires a certain seriousness.
I think not thinking of it as a “job” but not a “hobby” exactly either is the real way, it’s no longer a no stakes play time like a hobby but it’s also not something you do just for someone else (how I view a job: as something you wouldn’t do if they weren’t paying you).
I think a true pro mindset in the entertainment or arts is one that rejects thinking of it as a job or as a hobby, that keeps the aspect of doing what you want and having fun while also doing it at a high level.
So glad she is back and in all honesty taking an indefinite break is something all these girls should do at some point no set time to be back take all the time you need a chance to truly heal.
I'm glad she's back just in time before Aqua depart.
Aqua and Shion was one of the best tee tee duo back in the day.
I hope she will collab and cherish those moments with Aqua before the end of this month.
Aqua graduation without Shion would feel like a chunk missing.
Painful, but you hear it all the time sadly; 999 nice and supportive comments but the handful of negative and mean comments are the ones that will sit with you the longest.
I hope she will learn to deal with that as best to her ability. All we can do is keep on sending her positive comments and vibes and keep on supporting her no matter how she feels.
And I'm glad Hololive takes their members serious and give them the time to take good and healthy long breaks if needed.
All and all, I'm just happy to see Shion back.
The original kusogaki has finally returned!
Shion is so cute~
it's just jealous people planting seeds for other dumbs to anti/cancel her. So what if she's caught playing valorant instead of streaming 3 years ago? So what if she was dating?
fake or true, does it even matter? Antis who aren't even real fans feeling entitled??
I think it's the whole "idol" title that's throwing them off. Typically it would be a whole "scandal" if idols were caught dating because (at least on paper) it goes against their contract with the agency. However, Matsuri said in a stream a while ago that there are actually no restrictions on Hololive members being in relationships, so it doesn't matter if anyone is dating or married or whatever. Antis just bring up those speculations because that's what they think would harm the talents, even though it really doesn't matter at all.
It feels so nice to be surrounded by all these positive vibes from each and everyone of you holofans here.
The world out there is really harsh and messy as it is so lets make each day a happy day.
welcome back kusogaki garlic!
ano....eh....neee!? I'm dying lmao
My respect through the roof with hololive, they really care about their talents
Shion is "always expect for the worst" person, and also the most introverted as well. That why I really like her, and I wish her the strength to deal with whatever come in the future
Questioning her future is understandable considering that streaming is all she ever knew about work since she joined Hololive while being in high school. I'm happy to have the garlic back. She is as Kusogaki as she was the day we lost her.
An Onion for a Garlic...I'm not exactly happy, but we must abide
the laws of equivalent exchange.
I can understand her mindset when she says “try not to think of this as a job” when you have a work mindset it feels more like a chore than a fun activity. Working with a work mindset works for some but for a lot of people psychologically it’s taxing thinking to yourself “oh I have to do this again today”
I’ve been through that as well and it’s hard to break out of so I’m glad she got rest and time away from the internet
She was having burn out and early depression it seem. Glad she took a break, I'm happy people well v someday her. She mentioned back in December that the negative comments got her down, and it seem it still haunted her. Glad she feels welcomed.
Welp safe to say she not suffering from burnout, but straightly stress&depression from all those year being vtuber
But whatever, glad she back tho
Even Mumei said she'd been gone if Holo didn't allow her to take that long break. And took another personal one for her vtuber friend.
birds of a feather flock together
One of the pillars of holowall
Thinking is a job is a way to kill the passion. But if you see it as a career, there are no enough hours in the day to work on it.
Awww, I’ve missed this adorable little kusogaki
I missed this smug child
I'm glad that she's doing alright! I was worried.
It feels like an existential crisis anyone could have. She always has a choice, and as a fan, my duty is to respect and support whatever she wants to do.
Shion's VODs are one of the places I go whenever I feel down and need some encouragement. Even if I don't understand everything she says, just hearing her kusogaki voice and laughter can make me feel better and refreshed. Since her job is all about entertaining people and bringing happiness to others, my only wish is that she also has someone who is to her what she is to me.
Im glad a few of my fav vtuber were coming back from the hiatus.. But at a very sad timing as their co workers gonna graduate.
I must confessed friend , I never knew about Hololive till 2020 and I don't really watch any streams of the members . I hardly have any knowledge about them but I've learned enough for few of them , Aqua was the reason why I found out about Hololive . Seeing her leave I'm sure it must be breaking her heart just as it is for me , I hope Shion will be able to pull through strong and proud
Thank you for the Translation!!
My oshi is back !? Wooo yeah baby, that's what we have been waiting for, that's what it's all about, wooo !
After what she's said I don't think there's a person with the courage to say anything bad about her on X
Losers on JP Twitter/X and 2ch: 「ストロングゼロを握って。」
@@SelecaoOfMidas The X trolls the fans send to Cover's legal department to take care of, and Nobody cares about the people on 2ch 4chan and others, what they say doesn't matter to the world
@@SelecaoOfMidas a JP version of "hold my beer" I see?
Trust me, the loud minorities that hate are going to be louder than ever now
Gosh she said all those things that are profound which made me thought she took on some grandiose adventure or smtg… I did not expect that though :D
As i usually said since long ago to these girls (understood or not), there's nothing wrong with taking a break once in a while, not to burn themselves out for the sake of entertaining us, it's exactly for these kinds of reasons..🗿
Glad that she took such advices (obviously not from me, but anyways), hopefully she won't take things too seriously from now on, our sassy garlic is too precious..😌
this looks like a quarter life crisis for me. there's probably some delayed puberty and our magical garlic is trying her best to figure out herself and what her really wants. wish her best of luck.
Quarter life crisis sucks so bad. It made me so happy to turn 30 and simply... relax with what I have and built for myself.
@@DinnerForkTongueOh brother, just you wait until you turning 40. The pain train named “life” never stops.
"my words are hard to understand"... Maybe its because im dumb af and dont know how to explain myself too but i understand every single word she said because i had that existential crisis too...
But im so glad she is back, i missed her so bad...
We need love, and money
I don't have both ...GG ..😂😂
Welcome home shion. I’m happy to see so many nice messages towards shion coming back and she couldn’t find any harmful comments I really missed her. Maybe we will get one final garlic and onion collab 😢
Garlic Girl is happily surprised everyone loves her return, more than 100k people showed up! 🥰
always nice to see someone coming back, hopefully she’s refreshed and good to go!
i really feel like the internet is starting to give people midlife crisis before they even hit midlife sometimes.
The garlic flavored witch is back. But we loose the onion...
New streamer pog lol
Man, feels like ages since I've heard her voice. I hope this will be the last time she takes a hiatus. It will be sad if some unfortunate reason happened to her while she was inactive.
Thanks for subs. Now i feel more up to date on things.
Im glad people were nice to her.
Although i do think
Its impossible to please everyone on the internet and in the world. So its impossible to not find negative comments. I really feel to people who are sensitive to negative comments streaming might not be for them. I'm kinda scared how it can affect them. You need to be a really strong person to put up with negative comments as a streamer.
Especially when she says she's scared.. yeahhh..
meh always the one guy.
Even if we are 100,000 people that say how much we love the girls, theres always 1 guy that ruins it.
oh of course. I always understand what is going on in Shion's mind.but thankfully it turns out that Shion is fine and thanks for the advice, Noises VTubers
I remembered that she went on a break, did not realize that was almost 8 months ago.
Hows the baby doing (reddit meme)
That speculation got me laughing the first time i saw it and still holding, its himarious how people in reddit jump to that conclusion so fast lol
According to reddit users, at least half if not 75% of the members have at least 1 child. And their only reason to assume that is the breaks they take, nothing else. Is kinda funny but also sad
Bienvenida shion me apena qué regrese para despedirse de su mejor amiga.
Well the answer to her concern about mean comments is simple. We all really missed her. Were happy shes back.
i am generally supportive of taking breaks, but after hearing her reasons im even more glad that she specifically chose to take an indefinite break...job/deadline/timeline pressure is insidious
Having your job to be something you love instead of a job is a luxury only very, very few can accomplish.
This is my opinion, but I will be perfectly honest, I wouldn't be surprised if Shion also plans to graduate or at least plans to go back to a long break after Aqua leaves. After all, she originally joined a very small company with a niche audience to stream, then it became huge several years later and now it became like a professional job with lots of work and responsibilities than what she originally signed up for, compared to later Gens, so it wouldn't be surprising if it becomes too much for her.
Ngl, I'm with you on that!. Aqua's reasons for graduating might be a trigger for some of the girls who have those same thoughts. Especially for the early generations, the Hololive they've debuted in is long gone. So, as much as I would like to see them stay, it's more than likely that we saw a lot more graduations/indefinite hiatus in the near future.
no creo que sea el caso de shion se ve que ella adora estar en hololive
Idk if i spent my whole life on the internet too! A deep part of me would think i’m wasting my life away recording & streaming… And it feels like I’m on a time limit I would go crazy! Like i need to do this & that before i get old… Also wouldn’t like to think of streaming like full time job! So somewhat makes sense! (Probably not related at all) Anyway she really needed that break.
Shion-chan! Let's enjoy her streams until we can
Those quarter-life crisis probably also played a role in those thinking of hers.
A period in time when you start questioning your life choices and future.
Sadly, once you start involving money to you passion, it becomes a job. It's like setting your favorite song as a morning alarm sound.
Most people tend to jump jobs around the 5-6 year mark, maybe it's time to do something else. This indefinite break is a good opportunity to do some soul searching.
Aww 😊
I understand her stress and feelings but... I still think is worse to not have a Job 😅 we need to organize our feelings, appreciate what we have, and try to do our jobs in the most positive way, i think.