Tenders, Cutters, and Ice Breakers: USCG Paint Schemes
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- In this episode we're on board the Coast Guard Cutter Lilac, a lighthouse tender, looking at her paint scheme.
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For Canada the coast guard all have had a uniform red and white hull since the mid 60s regardless of duties. Only exception to this is former CCGS Bradbury which is in her pre-60s colors. Bradbury is now a museum in Selkirk, Manitoba
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Bradbury was also originally a steamship icebreaker later converted to diesel however her boiler is still there.
@@jacilynns6330 I've seen it so I can confirm. I went to see her in August last year.
It seems to be a little odd to have a coast guard cutter in the middle of the prairies.
@@michaelsommers2356 For Lake Winnipeg. its a huge lake
Thank you for the Coast Guard content
I have never heard “livery” pronounced with a long Ī like that. Liver, like the organ, with an ee sound at the end.
The Dazzle paint schemes have always been my favorites!
I'd love for them to do a video on Dazzle. It's such a bizarre bit of camo.
No Dazzle painted ship was ever sunk!
We also have White Hulled Excursion Cruisers (WHEC), We Must Eat Chicken (WMEC), White Arctic Garbage Barges (WAGB) and other nicknames in Uncle Sam's Confused Group (USCG). Here in Muskegon Mi we have CGC McLane (WCS 146) which is a "buck and a quarter" at the USS Silversides museum where I volunteer. I served on a White Hulled Excursion Cruiser, CGC Morgenthau WHEC 722, back in the early to mid 1970's. Officially she is a Hamilton Class cutter but were known by us Coasties by their length as "378's".
@Tom Trenter; I served as crew aboard McClane and Silversides in Chicago late 70s/early 80s. I would like to chat privately and ask about the status of those two vessels. How can I reach you?
We Have to Eat Chicken
@@JoshuaTootell ....or "We Hate to Eat Chicken"
@@pugsymalone6539 both ships are still floating
@@andrewachterhof2062 Thanks. That sounds a bit ominous.
Favorite paint scheme is the grey with the Coast Guard strips like on the Cyclone-class patrol ships went they were loaned to the Coast Guard
interesting note on Coast Guard liveries: the icebreakers started out white. From what I've been told, they switched from white with a red stripe to red with a white for visibility in ice- turns out white in an ice flow blends in
Always interesting to learn about the different use of colors for ships! Love all the content on the channel :)
Great video from the battleship.
Another fascinating vid. Good job team
Both ships I served in were red which also in time showed the efforts of our labor with a "mustache" on the bow and stern from contact with ice. They were the USCGC's Northwind (WAGB-282) now scrapped and the Polar Sea (WAGB-11) inactive but possibly may sail again. Interesting video. When people would ask us about the red we told them it was the only paint we had. lol
I think there is a movie where they painted a whole ship a muted pink because they had more than enough red and no where near enough grey paint. so they just mixed them all together and called it a day. I don't remember what the ship was, but I think it was a warship. I also don't remember the movie or I'd look it up to find out. I saw it a long time ago. The commanding officer told the crew to repaint the ship and was quite upset when he came back to a pink ship. lol
I served aboard Polar Star (WAGB 10) '84-'86.
@@saulekaravirs6585 The movie was _Operation Petticoat._
I was aboard Polar Sea as a civilian guest for a few weeks a number of years ago, for a science mission in the Bering Sea. Fond memories!
The Great White Fleet is my favorite without a doubt. I’ve seen a few renderings of the modern Navy ships along with some of the WW2 ships in GWF livery & they are beautiful.
Thanks for sharing…!
I was told years ago that the reason merchant ships had painted gun ports was to make potential attackers think they were armed, or armed more heavily than they really were.
Just thought that a video about U.S.C.G. Eagle would be a very informative as she is based in my home state at the Coast Guard Academy in New London, Ct. and in the winter is usually overhauled at the Coast Guard maintenance facility in Baltimore , Maryland. Perhaps Ryan should check her out as she is the only sail training ship in the U.S..
Back in 1975/ 76 there was a HUGE debate among us Coasties about the wisdom (stoopidity) of Charlie Golf planning on and actually disfiguring CGC Eagle by painting her with the racing stripe. I still think this wasn't one of Charlie Golf's brighter ideas.
That's a beautiful ship, also with an interesting history.
My ex wife was in the only boot camp company to sail Eagle. November 152? 1998
Some of my favorite schemes were the Olympic-class liners, Royal Navy Victorian-era black, and dazzle camo.
Ryan, spotted a pickup truck way up here in Maine today with the NJ Battleship license plate! That is one classy tag :)
There's a ex-mine sweeper in Nooka Sound BC that has been the cargo/ferry/passenger for the area very similar in design. In the 50's-60's the interior was painted white. Since the 70's (when time permits) the crew has been stripping the paint back off the brass. 40+ years later its looking good with more to go. The U-chuck lll is still in service today although with the forest industry decline it's on a permanent summer schedule if you want to see the BC coast in a classic drive up to Gold River and go for a ride.
Ryan should do a livestream on New Jersey! I know that lots of us would tune in.
They have serious connectivity issues inside the ship.
My favourite livery for civilian ships, I have two, depending on ship design: the classic Cunard colours of the first half of 20th Century (as seen on the museum ship Queen Mary) and the mid-century modern style of the museum ship NS Savannah.
For warships, the British paint scheme from the predreadnought to early dreadnought era.
I am a fan of the whacky camouflage schemes of the world wars in much the same way I like the F-117 airplane: "what engineer thought THAT! design is camouflage?!?"
But I also like the Coast Guard law enforcement design. It is a perfectly utilitarian design. You know what it is at a glance, it isn't foreboding, just says "hey, we're here to do our job, nothing more, nothing less".
i also want to visit Massachusetts, NJ, any remaining cv museums, cl and ca museums, orleck. i love historical ships... became hyper about them when i started WoWS up the first time. been missing out of these things since i was last on USS Kidd
pretty much anything of that era
the kidd has a unique berth that lets it rest in the water half the year, while the other half it is in the air allowing for easier maintenance
I like the black hull, white super structure with buff on the stacks. Second favorite was a ship I saw a lot locally when I was a kid, but don’t know much more about was black hull, gray super structure with dark blue accents and funnels.
I personally love the British Pacific Fleet colour scheme you see on the late WW2 ships Britain sent to the Pacific. A very light grey (nearly white I think) with a blue line along the waterline over the center of the ship.
Dazzle camouflage is just fantastic.
I always found the paint scheme of The Great White Fleet rather regal? I guess there's just something appealing about the white with the gold on the bow.
Yeah, the colors of thr Great White Fleet are my favorite.
DeSoto Adventurers of the 1950s were all painted two tone. Either gold and white or gold and black. My Dad's was gold and white, very classy. ;-)
I remember seeing the RAN ships that took part in RIMPAC 80 being painted a light green.
I really love the look of the Great White Fleet for ships. That would be an awesome livery to bring back if it were practical. Or maybe just paint one modern capital ship in it for a parade some time. It think it looked cool then, and would probably look cool now. Just like how the Gulf Racing Liver never gets old with its sky blue body with an orange stripe that flares out at the front. Looked good on a Ford GT40, looked good on a Porcha 917K, looks good on a modern Porcha 911GTE car. The other two iconic historical liveries that I really like are the USAAF interwar paint scheme with the pale blue fuselage and bright yellow wings paired with the awesome roundel of the 1930s, and the British Royal Naval FAA paint scheme in the mid 1940s. The Seafires, Sea Hawks, and Attackers looked so cool with that pale tan on the bottom & sides and medium blue grey on the top surfaces.
You don't just repaint a ship for a parade. It takes lots and lots of paint, and lots and lots of labor to repaint a ship. You can't use a sprayer except in drydock.
@@michaelsommers2356 I guess I was thinking something more like a Parade Around the World like they used to do. Send a large portion of the fleet out stopping in the ports of all of your allies, and some of your "not allies" to show your presence. But you do bring up a good point that it would be quite the endeavor.
I have a soft spot for the Bismarck camo paint job with the angled black and white stripes and the fake bow wave
The Trinity House colours of black Hull, white superstructure and buff funnel looks classy, even on hard-working buoy tenders.
The Royal yacht Britannia mixed it up a bit with a dark blue hull, but retaining the buff funnel and white superstructure of her predecessors (previous royal yachts had black hulls).
And of course there's Cunard line with its black hull, white superstructure and red funnels (with black stripes). Similar to Cunard is the Isle of Man Steam Packet company, whose ships also have a black hull and red funnel.
Caledonian MacBrayne also have black hulls and red funnels upon which are displayed a yellow disc with a red lion rampant. This combined the funnel colours of its predecessor companies, David MacBrayne (red funnel) and the Caledonian Steam Packet (buff funnel with a red lion rampant).
Of interesting note, only one ship in the USCG gets painted gold numbers at any given time. The "Queen of the Fleet", the oldest active cutter in service (besides the Eagle). During my time it was the Storis, which was around 70 years old at the time.
My favorites? I like the Coast Guard Enforcement paint. That stark white with the crisp red stripe and CG emblem on the bow? Sheer beauty.
For warships, though, it's the classic Haze Grey. (No. 5 Navy Grey for you modelers out there.)
The "Great White Fleet" color scheme of white and buff is really nice...
My grandfather and his next younger brother were in the Great White Fleet. The letter Adm Dewy wrote had a letter from my grandfather to his mom. Like all good Sailors, he complained about having to pull into Manilla just to pick up white wash and buff paint then steam off to paint the ship white and buff.... And, the high humidity not letting the white wash or buff set.... Starting them big coal fired boilers which spewed coal smoke and ash all over the wet paint. My uncle said that was when Navy Hull Grey was created, right then and there. To this day, if you look at the ingredients of US Navy hull paint it has coal soot in it.
My favorite paint scheme for warships is the WW2 US submarine gray vertical areas with the black horizontal surfaces/ aft hull fade.
For others, love the Black/white and red or buff funnels of the great ocean liners
The “Dark Grey Job” is fantastic, there is a document on researcher at large that shows details on paths paint job including the cool counter shading of surfaces
I love a good dazzle paint scheme, but that scheme was only popular for a short time (before radar and naval avaition)
The Coast Guard Nantucket Light Ship was usually painted red,
During the 1930s, each merchant ship company had its own set of colors. These colors can be found in the book "the World's Merchant Fleets, 1939" by Rodger Jordon, c. 1999.
My favorite pant for US ships would have to be the measure 21 camouflage like on Battleship Texas
Have you seen battleship North Carolina?
You know from watching your vids there great. And well I’m helping out local museum
Hey Ryan for another what if video could you compare hms warrior vs uss monitor circa 1862
the colorbalance of the main video clip of Ryan could have ben color balanced in post production if the wrong white ballance was applied at the time of shooing
Dazzle Camo is my favorite.
My favourite livery is the old Holland America scheme with the black hull that was seen on 1937's Nieuw Amsterdam. Didn't care for the white hull variant. The funnel colours were bold enough to stand out but not garish. Doesn't hurt that Nieuw Amsterdam has pleasant lines, either. Not as nice as Normandie or SS United States, but nice.
When are you coming to visit the USS LCI(L)-713?
Haze Grey and underway is the way to go.
Gray funnel line sailor , eh? They'd be my second choice after Uncle Sam's Confused group that I would consider going for a cruise on. Underway is the only way!
The Knox Class ships had a stack painted black, if the ship ever broke down and then towed to port. it would then be painted gray. not sure where that came from or how true it was.
From a purely "that's cool" aesthetic stance? Then my favorite is the black & white stripe razzle-dazzle paint scheme.
The Mauretania had a beautiful Dazzle scheme
Is that an old style field jacket (1980's) you're wearing on that old style Coast Guard ship?
The portsmouth light ship is in concrete and hasn't been opened for 2 years because the ac system
I like the pre-WWI Imperial German Navy paint scheme for ships deployed overseas in peacetime. White hull above the water line and yellow superstructure and funnels. Sure would not have wanted to fight with those colors though, which is why they did not.
I have a photo of my dad’s destroyer, U.S.S Abbott DD 629, taken from aboard the heavy cruiser U.S.S. Chicago in 1945, in the late WW2 Measure 22 camouflage.
The red and black of the Cunard Line.
Amen!
I know they'd like her back to grey, but I really like the Olympia's
Dang, I thought you were going to do a video about fleet support ships like submarine or destroyer tenders. Long past time their contribution got recognized. But - there will never be a tender museum ship. I get it. Not sexy. But it's what wins you the war.
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Haze gray & underway! ….. period! 🤗✌️🤙
White hulls with black waterlines for civilian ships larger than 30 feet in length. Tugs and trawlers black or dark blue from rail to waterline. Coast guard red and white if they rescue people at all in water. Navy ships uniform grey with flags painted to denote country of service and visitor flags raised on poles if visiting, and or civilian run and moored.
Japanese ships of WW2 did wear neat shades of green!
I think you're swell, Ryan, but it's pronounced "liver-ee". And I think that dazzle camouflage is really interesting..
The camouflage paint
🚣🛩️ I've noticed that contemporary Coast Guard ships & aircraft of most countries around the world seem to share a common paint scheme of white hull or fuselage with red diagonal stripes, similar to USCG equipment 🎨🖌️
Is this by international agreement? 📜✍🏼
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I think it's mainly from copying the USA. Some countries do it a bit differently. Sweden's Coast Guard use the colours of their national flag: a light blue hull with a yellow stripe.
Italy's Coast Guard follows the US pattern of a white hull, but the racing stripe is in the Italian national colours of red, white and green.
Greece's Coast Guard has a blue racing stripe, again following the colours of the Greek flag.
The original Mackinaw ran a white hull and super structure for many years
The acid trip Dazzle schemes from WW1.
Shows...ALL your sins.
Hahaha that was perfect.
A National Historic Landmark, the E. M. Cotter, is the oldest active fireboat in the world. It was built in Elizabeth, New Jersey and arrived in Buffalo November 6, 1900. Built and commissioned during an era when Buffalo’s waterfront and port were booming, the Cotter has been an invaluable asset of fire protection for the numerous warehouses, grain elevators and other facilities that line Buffalo’s shores. After 105 years the Cotter continues serving the citizens and properties of Greater Buffalo, more as a floating museum, visiting ports on Lakes Erie and Ontario
Hard to not be a fan of a nice dazzle paint scheme.
Haze Grey all the way!
How a about a psychedelic yellow submarine?
Holland America’s railway passenger car paint scheme in Alaska.
Sorry Ryan, you didn’t specifically say ship paint scheme.
re: white navy ships. its ok for them to be white. they can always "lift with their non rates" to keep em clean.
yes, ww1 dazzle paint is my favorite. i even used such a paintscheme on a battlemech (ie walking piloted robot) for the battletech game.
WWI dazzle cammo is my favorite for sure! I was actually recently having a discussion with someone about how certain cars would look cool vinyl wrapped in dazzle
I also think the Cunard style black/white/red color scheme is very classically elegant.
You have just inspired me. If I ever get wealthy enough to be able to afford a car with a crazy paint job, I will do this.
hey Ryan it's not a red it's international orange!!
Measure 22.
USS Washington in measure 22.
dazzle........ or the russians grey hull red decks
it looks cool not a sympathizer lol
I always thought it was "li-veries", not "lie-veries" ... but may be another Missourah thing.
Why don't they paint. Submarine in a blue. Or. Green. Won't it be. Harder to see from the air . Back in WW 2. Went sub was operating just below the. Surface
Pretty sure 'livery' has a short 'i'... just sayin'.
No disrespect, but livery is pronounced “liver-ee,” not “live-ery.”
Pretty cool stuff. Thank you.