WHO FRAMED BRANDON JAMES? | Analysis & EVIDENCE | MTV's SCREAM
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- čas přidán 11. 04. 2022
- Since MTV's SCREAM will no longer be getting it's continuation, I've decided to begin creating a host of videos to break down, discuss and analyse aspects of the show we didn't really get answered. The story of Brandon James is an interesting one. I decided to take a deep dive into his history and I discovered the show hinted heavily that this character was set up for his dark deeds before the events of Season One. In this video, I discuss who I believe set him up and how it would have impaced future Seasons.
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It's not that I didn't enjoy season three, but you've literally touched on EVERY reason why they needed to continue the Lakewood story before moving on to something else.
Can the unmade seasons be made in the future
Season 3 lacked the music of the original Scream films. Also there should be a reason as to why Ghostface is inherently stronger than the in the costume. They receive a lot of punishment but only die when they remove the costume. Even then it requires two shots to the head. Krueger has the same creator so it is not farfetch as such. I mean Scream is not totally dabbled in reality considering the killers can temporary come back.
@@BitOfUltraviolence wtf it only takes one shot. where did you get 2 from?
@@zaybruh In Part 2, Ghostface gets shot and then again after he gets up.
@@BitOfUltraviolence oh ok
I've seriously always wondered if maybe Daisy is the original killer. Her and Brandon were in love, and it hurt her to see him get bullied and mistreated by everyone, so she got revenge on all of his bullies. She never framed him, everybody just assumed Brandon did it. The main clue to support this, during Piper's reveal, she tells Daisy "for 20 years you let everyone think my dad was the monster... but YOU were the monster"... and Daisy admitted "You're right.. but they were my mistakes, not Emma's" ..I always wondered if the meaning behind that exchange of words were deeper than we realized 😳
It's an interesting theory but I just don't see them going that way
I think Daisy and Troy done the original killing
Honestly with season 2 it's more likely that Emma's dad framed Brandon
Thank you for being the only channel to cover this show. I think it's underrated.
I agree 100%!! I think it's extremely underrated!! I wasn't as much of a fan of that 3rd season with the New cast and plot, but I found it still watchable. Seasons 1 and 2 tho, phenomenal!! I don't understand why it gets so much hate. And the blood and gore exceeded my expectations. Being an MTV show, I wasn't sure what they could show. Will, Emmas original bf in season 1s death for examplewas brutal and had plenty of Gore!! My man got lit up by a serious stump grinder ! I really hope the rumors of this cast and storyline getting p8cked back up are true because they left it on a cliffhanger and they still have a ton left they could do.
@@scottv9479 I don't think it's the gore that holds this show back. Its the writing. Now, the plot and storylines are very good. But it's so drawn out and badly paced; we get whole episodes where nothing really happens.
Yes! It’s so fun and entertaining!
Facts this is so good
I think they could totally do a prequel, revealing to the audience what actually transpired and lead to seasons 1 & 2
And should the Lakewood story come back
Kevin's always had that suss look and I'd love this theory. It'd make sense despite the writers said they planned on bringing the real Brandon James back for Season 3 in the original script. But Kevin being the original killer years ago is the perfect twist for this series.
I love Brandon James story line and hate cliff hanger we were left on at end of season 2. Season 3 dropped the ball!
Should the story be brought back to finish
@@ryansingletary3935 yes they should we been wanting closure on it
@@saadikgoldsmith5290 what things need to be addressed
@@ryansingletary3935 about is brandon james back or even alive some how and who killed kieran in the courthouse
@@ryansingletary3935 duh
Them revealing the show to be in the same universe as the movies would be a awesome huge twist imo and could fit with the timeline with Brandon backstory predating scream 1 I believe and the show taking place in another town entirely
My theory is that it was always his brother Troy. With all the name drops about Troy, yet us never seeing him, I always assumed he would be revealed to be the actual killer
I think Kevin was the actual killer
He was mad at Brandon getting between him and his girlfriend, so he had a psychosis and killed a lot of people
The reason he is alcoholic it's not bc he has a trauma, but he feels a lot of remorse of what he did
I even think he probably has a bipolar personality disorder or st like that
Should the story back back for closure
Then he battles a supernatural Ghostface entity for his atonement. He is about to be killed just as a man, in a hockey mask appears with his trusty machete in hand and harpoon gun on his back, teleports next to them via a strange mist. Another appears, in a black and red striped shirt.
Freddy v Jason: The sequel!
@@BitOfUltraviolence what xd
its obvious
and he also killed Kieran and the prison guard.
Since I haven't watched the video yet, I'm going on a wild guess and saying that it might be Kevin Duval, because he might have framed Brandon James so Brandon would get arrested and Kevin would have Daisy to himself. He also didn't like when Daisy was talking about Brandon, and he might've felt jealous about Brandon and Daisy's relationship.
Good guess
@Joshua 1992 Yes. It used to be TV-14, but now it got changed to TV-MA.
I always thought Kevin Duvall was a lot more involved than it was actually explained.
It is . He's after Maggie and Emma
I back this theory and was waiting for the series to be completed for this outcome.
I love the idea that Brandon James was a devil in disguise because it makes him feel like the true ghostface and makes him a mastermind and adds so much meaning to what he said to kieran.
Unless it was Kevin talking to Kieran, with the mask being his cause he used it to kill people
The top 3 guesses I've seen are
Kevin Duval: dude is suspicious of hell and even in the Halloween episode he had this weird vibe after Kieran died. He was abusive and an asshole to his wife. I could definitely believe it's him.
Troy James: he may have been a bit crazy already and maybe he killed people who bullied his brother.
Officer Martinez (forgot his first name): I've always felt something is a little off about him. He was dead set that Gustavo wasn't the killer. Why? Well you could say it's his son he wouldn't wanna believe it. But it could also be because he's the killer so of course he knows his son isn't it.
it's acosta not martinez lmao
@@singhisbling9385 I made a mistake . I was remembering my friends name.
Stavo's father. He was there with Emma's mom when they were with Brandon James after the massacre happened. He planted the weapon there. Kevin was just a red herring.
Random idea I wanna see if y’all could see it happening…. Maybe Kieran wasn’t the killer? I mean before he’s killed he says to his killer “so I kept your word, are you gonna tell me who you are now?” What if there was a little deal Kieran had with this person. He would take the blame to protect the real killers identity.
nah, i think the phone call to kieran at the end of season 2 was the start of this deal they talk about. the phone call didn’t end there, we just didn’t get to see the rest of the conversation i believe. maybe they struck some sort of deal on the phone.
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I just watched the first two seasons for the first time and I instantly fell in love with this storyline.
This is the exact thought I have always held about the TV show story.
yes! looking forward to this!
Looking forward to what
I wish the show would come back I really want them to finish it
Same! I really wanted a season 3 about Lakewood and the third killer. But instead, we got a season thst have no ties or connections to the first 2 seasons.
@Joshua 1992 I have no clue, but I really didn't like how season 3 was a reboot.
I personally prefer this to Scream 2022 and the current story. MTV's Scream just has more original characters in it than the movie verse and it's much more brutal and a far better story. Emma's been through so much more than Sidney which makes the audience connect with Emma even more. This show deserves a proper closure to it's story.
@@TheAmazingAdam same i didn't even like scream 5 that much
yeah i swear i read something online, that third season was supposed to be about this story arc where brandon james killer was guy you said in this video behind one who attacked kieran in season 2 halloween special. Like you said, he was third killer who set brandon james up in one of scripts for planned season 3 but we never got it.
I thought it was Troy but yeah I agree with this, Kevin was so shady when he showed up
Hope get to read this myself and few close friends of mine are doing fan film called Scream Return to Lakewood takes place ten years after the second season ended.
I love your content hope get to see this
It'd be awesome if you guys could bring one of the original MTV Scream actors on board. It's been done in Fan Films before, but it's hard to do.
@@TheAmazingAdam when we're at very early stages talked about that but hard to do like you said
no way you posted this i love you no homo
Brandon James wasn’t a serial killer though. He was a mass murderer if he did in fact commit the murders. Serial killers don’t normally kill all their victims in one day
i still want to know who killed kieran, if eli survived and who left that note for maggie. i need closure lol
Definitely my boy Brandon james because the mask Is his property hence it being his face and he says to kieran "Who said you could wear my mask?"
@@henryvirtum1520 the showrunners revealed that Brandon James never killed anyone
I think it was stavo cuz his mask literally went missing
i really hope if their is another season i want them to bring the characters back from s1-2 AND 3 but still continue the lakewood story line. as much as i love the first two seasons. i pretty much enjoyed 3 and fell in love with the cast.
The tv show was better than scream 2022 and I’m here for this content
Scream MTV Season One was the true Scream 5 IMO
Facts though. Scream 2022 doesn't even come close. The MTV show had character development and much better writing.
facts scream 2022 was decent scream tv series was great
Loved this series 1 & 2 think we need to return to Lakewood,it made itself rather than copying Scream films,the story creates its own!Bring season 3 to finish the story rather than leaving us on edge like they have done!!❤
I agree about the Kevin. Also I am not sure,that Audrey didn't do at least one kill 😉
i never thought about it being Kevin it kinda makes sense if it was him
Did you notice how much different the characters looked after the pilot episode? I feel like they aged and got their looks changed a lot.
Because the pilot was filmed first in Order for it to get the show green lit, even the mask was originally made out of flesh before digitally changed to the surgery mask
@@freedomwriter9688 that’s what I was thinking. I just wasn’t sure for sure. It is a big difference for sure
i didn't even know tom was on the show. haha 🤪 makes sense
Was there not a script made for season 3 before it got rebooted?
The first 2 seasons were damn good
How were they that good
@@ryansingletary3935 I just personally enjoyed the storyline they had going. Sure it had plot holes like other stories and a few decisions I didn’t agree with but they had something there for sure
@@farleydeonta if Emma find out her dad was the mastermind behind it all what could happen
@@ryansingletary3935 1 season could’ve wrapped up the complete why and been mixed with a few flashbacks of the days leading up to the original incident
@@farleydeonta how many more seasons would’ve the Lakewood story could’ve lasted
Is the tv series canon to the movies?
I personally always thought it was Kevin it would explain a lot he wanted revenge put the blame on Brandon wouldn’t be to hard.
also at the end of season 2 when kevin killed keeran on the phone he said “who told you that you could wear my mask”
I think Kevin Duval original Lakewood slasher
I am making a comic I am going to put mtv scream to contact to the movies I am going to try an do Brandon and daisy story
Kevin Duval .
I thought this was pretty clearly implied in the show, no? I wouldn't consider this a fan theory, it seemed pretty explicit
They really should go back to Lakewood and finish up the story after the major success of scream 2022
So can the Lakewood story still be brought back
I think they are planning something like a season 4
@@liamcashman7098 what does that mean
@@liamcashman7098 what does that mean
@@ryansingletary3935 scream writers are thinking about it
I agree with this. I’m no fan of the show as such, but I definitely thought he was responsible and his involvement in the tv series should have been dealt with better. More missed opportunities.
Kevin just seems so innocent and weird.. He's too troublesome to be behind it all right? He just seems like a drunk, not a calculated psychopath. And if he is, he would be killing Kieran out of his own lust / since Kieran "stole the mask"... Not because Kieran tortured Emma.
Because if Kevin cared about Emma at all he should've helped more during the new killings. I think he just wanted to kill Kieran to cut ties and keep his legacy hidden or alive. Everything leads to him not caring about his own daughter right?
What father let's his daughters friends be slaughtered without helping lol. One that doesn't care
YESSSS i absolutely agree
Kevin's the most lable suspect, during the second season he was acting strange
Kevin Duvall framed Brandon
I agree with u
I thibk Emma is brandon's kid too and maggie does know he's alive
I think that Daisy was the murderer all along. She knew that Brandon loved her and he wouldn't let Her go to jail. Even if it meant letting everyone believe he was the killer and fake his death. But Daisy didn't want to take a chance that Brandon would be cleared so she agreed to set him up hoping the police would shoot and kill him.
Nah, it was either Troy or Kevin who did it
I honestly don't think it was either kevin, troy, or miguel that framed brandon james for the murders of those 5 students in halloween 1994 because I feel they were just teasing us were you think it's emma's dad but it's not really him because think about at the at the end of season 1 of episode 10 I think they were just setting it up to make it look like that audrey was piper's accomplice but it was really kieran that's established i personally think that the 3rd killer was another female because she loved brandon james and maybe he broke her heart or something for daisy a.k.a maggie and that's what drove her mad and made her kill those 5 students and framed him for it and maybe she influence piper and kieran to kill people caused all of this events in past 2 seasons and I think that's way she killed kieran in the courthouse to get the money that she deserve and maybe she could have been the next jill roberts who wants emma's fame and the fortune
honestly the fans the series could come up with much better and coherent plot than the actual people behind this.
Daisy did, Maggie framed Brandon and got away with it
I completely agree I've always said that.
I like season 2 better than season 1. Scream season 1 was a little cringy
#bringbacklakewood
Kevin or Troy framed him in my opinion
I still dont think Kieron was a killer, I think he was lying to protect Emma and when he did his part of the deal he was disposed of. And that wouldve been perfect in the actual grand reveal wee never got to find out he was her true love trying to protect her and it would hurt her more that she hated him for what he claimed be did, when it was someone else.
Kieran was a psychopath
What are you talking about? It's like thinking Billy was innocent or even Charlie
@@ghonnh20 he's a fried guy
and the reason mtv dropped the show after season 2 was bc of the weinstein. this what’s during the “me too” movement and mtv wanted nothing to do with them being the fact that they were producers
It was Stavo's father. He liked Emma's mother and didn't like the fact she was friendly with Brandon James. It couldn't be Kevin because he was too obvious.
Miguel is my other suspect, but we have more evidence against Kevin
@@ghonnh20 which doesn't make him the killer. Why would they make it that obvious?
I still don't trust Kevin Duval, and I think Kevin framed Brandon.
Emmas dad...plain and simple...its revealed at the end of season 2 and im not talking about that whack ass Halloween episode...
How was the Halloween special whack
@@ryansingletary3935 the fact that they go to murder island and some random guy wants to kill Emma...cmon man, its bad writing...
@@CracknDFlesh26 did it end on a cliffhanger
@@ryansingletary3935 in my opinion, no it didnt...
@@CracknDFlesh26 what do you mean it didn’t
For me, the first two seasons were better than the movies for the most part. For the longest time every scream movie was the same. Sydney, Gail and Dewey would fight a ghostface and they would all live.
if we wouldn't have got that stupid ass reboot they would have established that all because some of you who didn't like it because of the mask change
What was wrong with the planned season 3 with the Lakewood story
@@ryansingletary3935 because some fans didn't appreciate the show because of the mask change
@@saadikgoldsmith5290 what mask change
@@ryansingletary3935 the brandon james mask
@@saadikgoldsmith5290 also how many more seasons would’ve the Lakewood story could’ve lasted
I’ve always been very suspicious of Sheriff Acosta. He oddly left Lakewood after the events of the original killings, and he was close enough in Maggie’s circle of friends that she trusted Miguel to help her aid Brandon after he was shot. I also think it’s odd how obsessed Stavo was with Brandon James and how creepy Stavo was when his friends died from a gunshot. If Miguel was a psychotic killer, it wouldn’t be a huge stretch that his son would have these weird tendencies. Even the fact that Miguel returned to Lakewood as a new series of killings began is very sus.
Miguel left after the original killings because if the cops found out that he and Maggie/Daisy helped Brandon get away after he was shot they both probably would've been put in jail for helping a fugitive escape
Troy James/Kevin Duval.
I say it is the both of them because they have one thing in common.
Which is that they both hate Brandon.
So I think they orchestrated the deaths of those 5 teens and pinned it on Brendan James.