Warner Brothers Disc Rot Issue (a physical media collectors worst nightmare)
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This was not a video i ever thought i would make and this was literally a worst nightmare for any physical media collector. This video covers the Warner Brothers disc rot issue and my personal experience with effected titles.
Please look at the lists and videos below for more context and comment down below if you have any effected titles. Also please share this video and the others listed below to spread awareness on this relatively unknown disaster.
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Master List of Effected Disc Rot
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Josh the movie collectors video on the disc rot issue
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I have come across 6 blu rays from 2008-2011 that no longer work in the UK and have different companies. They don't have any rot issue as such as the discs look perfect but they do not get recognised by blu ray players. One of them is WB Blazing Saddles. I even still had a sealed copy of a film and it does not work.
Ok thanks for the info. I hadn't even considered blurays but I'll check mine
I have a Sony UBP-X800 4K Blu-ray player. I tried my Superman Ultimate 14 Disc collection - Disc 1 failed skipping bad clusters (seconds to minutes) but physically has a groady 1/4" outside edge which corresponds to around the 15 minute layer change from layer-1 to layer-2. All others have a golden tint and a hazy smudge on the discs when being stamped appear the mold release was improperly cleaned off. You can only see it under bright light and tilting to various angles. For some reason they still play but not all discs tested. Threw in a Looney Tunes disc still need to fully test (saw it on a list) menu loaded. I know that the MGM The Outer Limits original show was a mess of flipper discs and noted online as troublesome, gave up watching as only 10% would read fully in a player. I will be testing in the 4K Blu-ray machine; maybe a better laser mech assemble or software error handling.
Oh no sorry ! I was just looking into a superman set I need to be careful I guess. Thanks for the info
Where they're stored probably makes a huge difference. Humidity and temp matter. Never store discs in a garage.
Yes they were stored properly but that's some good advice
@@sirducksworthythe3rd842 they were stored right. This was manufacturing error
Warner Brothers is gross and even if discs are stored in bad areas that's usually not the reason for these issues. A lot of it has to do with poor manufacturing. Laserdiscs have these issues too. I remember winning an Ebay auction for a stack of around 17 laserdiscs and around 8 or 9 of the discs had rot. I ended up sending it back and the seller was unhappy. I believe the seller was a female but she ignored me when I told her which discs had rot. I don't know how there was so many with rot. Makes me think she may have picked it out of the trash when someone was throwing discs away. Rot is still suppose to be uncommon even in laserdiscs which is the format that suffered from it the most since many manufacturing planets messed up the glue.
@@josephwilson8391 good points
When I was a collector of laserdiisks I used to have so many problems with laser rot. One I was really upset to have laser rot was my CRITERION laservision of close encouters 😢
That's a bummer. I have a small collection of laserdiscs but just for the collectible aspect not to watch since I do not own a laserdisc player. I have just a few of titles that mean a lot to me. The mummy, Twister and a few random ones. So maybe 6 laserdiscs in my collection? Still on the hunt for Titanic on laserdisc
Warner Brothers is a disgusting company. I had either disc rot or a manufacturing issue with one of my Superman DVD movies that came in a Superman Boxset and they refused to replace it. A disc that probably cost them 25 cents or less to make and these cheap bastards wouldn't even replace it. Sent them that email years ago and they never responded to it. They just ignored me. I think I ended up downloading an illegal copy because of it but I would have preferred the actual dvd that my Dad paid for since it was a Christmas present.
Yeah I reached out to WB so will see what happens
I never actually saw Laserdisks myself, and this is first time I'd heard of his problem.
Some laserdisc collectors say it's not that big of a deal if you know what to look for
Thank you Sir! Sincerely, Tom Pennock
Not a problem
I heard on the world of CD music physical collectors thay is probably due the way that those disc where made. I mean, some industries used bad or cheap materials. In my case I've 25 years old DVDs and they are still perfect. Also CD's older than that. Here made in germany CDs/DVDs has good reputation due a its quality process. Sorry for my english.
Oh ok interesting how things are handled different in different parts of the world. Your English is good 😊
I know those Marlon Brando collections were cursed from the beginning. Even right off the shelf many didn't work at all. I took one back and got a new one and the same movies didn't work each time. There were quite a few negative reviews about those online. Very sorry to see you've got a few unworking titles in your Gangsters Collection- that's a great set!
I didn't know they were not working right away. That's crazy. I contacted WB so hopefully I can do an update video in a month or two
Great video.
Disc rot is a blow to the movie collecting community. I don't know if it affects uk WB Dvds, So far my WB Dvds are ok, but I haven't checked them all yet.
That's a good question. I would be curious if it does indeed affect uk discs
I haven't found any with disc rot so far in my WB collection but I'm still checking them if I do find any uk discs with disc rot I will let you know
@@Sav453 well that's good. Ok
@@ADayWithCaleb I'll be answering that in my post.
@@Manu-Official ok 👍
I also have DVD movies that stop playing after 30-40 minutes on my Samsung DVD player. But on my PC with the DVD drive Asus these discs play to the end, and they don’t freeze. The reason is the weak drive and electronics of my DVD player. So, just try to insert your "non-working" discs into your PC DVD drive. You can use the media player classic program, and it's free. I hope this helps you.
I've tested these discs on multiple testing platforms but I appreciate the advice
@@ADayWithCaleb
Oh my god I just put my audio CD "Earth Wind and Fire" into my PC and it seems to be rotten. I haven't listened to this album for many years. Oh my God, I hear a terrible wheezing sound. Now I'm starting to understand your problem.
@@IvanMot81 sorry to hear that
had some DVD's for 20 years only thing remotely close to this was an old copy of terminator 2 were the sliver just wore away with use
That's good to know !
watch on 2 times speed ,good info
Good tip
I'm watching on 0.25x speed
Agreed. Good info at said speed.
@ichtheosis appreciate ya
@Stack_Silver thanks for watching
I contacted Warner Bros. as I have quite a few affected titles. First email got no response so I emailed again after a couple weeks. They responded asking for some info but they want pictures of original receipts. I explained that many of these items were purchased years ago and I didn't keep all those receipts. Haven't heard a thing since I said that.
Interesting 🤔 I contacted them and immediately got an email informing me to send info and pictures of the actual DVDs and box sets. I explained that I didn't have original receipts most I bought day of or were gifts. That took a while to do but I sent all the info and pics they wanted and probably 5-7 days later they sent me an email saying they have the email and if they can send replacements it will be 4-6 weeks processing time. So will see if they send anything. If they do I will definitely do a follow up video explaining what all happened and what all they sent
@@ADayWithCaleb That's good news. I need to sit down and start photographing stuff and finish going through my Warner Bros. titles.
@@xboxboba1 yes. Hopefully I'll have a good update to share
5 years after I bought the Berserk set for $100 at gamestop I saw that the discs had rotted. This was in 2005, and I was like fuck this, what a waste of money.
Wow sorry that happened. Yeah to add all this up would probably be heartbreaking. Hopefully it spreads awareness because the secondary market on these potential rotted discs is insane
Berserk isnt that good and the intro is garbage, you didnt miss out.
@nickm5419 good to know
I had rot issues with laserdisc and HD DVD, with Warner releases. Sony DADC were common disc rot on laserdisc too.
I have yet to encounter Warner disc rot on DVD, Blu-ray or 4K. I am in the UK.
It must just be a US issue since the plant was in the US
Have you got the 2008 blu ray release of Blazing Saddles? Mine does not work.
@nicholasgarratt5646 that's a good catch. I do have the Blu-ray I'll have to see if it's the 08 release. Thanks for the heads up
Luckily most of mine on that list have upgraded to blu ray, but a couple I’m slowly buying the newer pressings, such as the 90’s Flash and the Babylon 5 spinoff series
Yeah I think I'm gonna have to slowly upgrade them to Blu-ray or rerelease DVDs
Warner archives has picked up a lot of these effected titles.
Ihave the Gangster collection you shown. It as the bad disc numbers.
All discs still playing.
My Film Noir vol 4 (5 discs 10 films) All crap. I rebought it not knowing this issue. Same problem crap. I threw them away . I didn't want to rip off some else.
Thanks for the info ! Sorry you had to go through that. I looked on the archive website and it looks like they are doing some through other second hand sellers which means they most likely are from that era. Maybe 🤔 I was looking in the wrong place but to me it looked like that. I didn't see anywhere on the site where they said they manufactured on demand or rereleased versions. I don't know. I need to look more into it. I reached out to WB and I'm just waiting to see if they send me anything and then go from there
I hope you get either replacements or your money back. I'm so sorry. Thanks for the heads-up, I will stay away from WB
I just bought Veronica mars seasons 1-3 too.. ugh
Thanks I'm in contact with WB right now will see....I wouldn't avoid WB all together. You just have to be aware of the signs and just use your best judgement. It will make me more Leary of WB from that timeframe though
Oh man 🙄. I lucked out with Veronica Mars but others were not so lucky
@@ADayWithCaleb I just tested my dvd 6-disc set of Superman, the animated series. -All discs working.
I got it from eBay for $20. Make sure you look for the GRUV ENTERTAINMENT version. So if you’re shopping for a replacement, mine seem to be working thusfar 🤞
It’s the set with red season 1 discs, blue season 2 discs, and purple season 3 discs
@@ADayWithCalebwarning about my 6 disc set though, on the back of the boxset, I just noticed a tiny stamp that says “30% post consumer recycled content ♻️”, so..I would proceed with caution ⚠️
Sadly everything decays
Very true
@@ADayWithCaleb I have a CD from 1983 and it still plays like new!
@SuperMarioBrosIII very good !
Avid collector here since the 90s (UK/Europe - Zone 2 but also own some Japanese, Canadian and American discs) - never had one single issue of disc rot, except for some blank disc brand called Traxdata, these were notorious back in 1999-2000 for the metallic layer to disintegrate.
Regarding WB, I experienced one single issue on Demolition Man (Silverster Stallone - DVD zone 2), unsteady picture, slightly shakes.
Other than that, I own for example all of Clint Eastwood, bought all separately, and it's all Warner Bros - zero disc problems and I started collecting those over 20 years ago. At this point I am guessing that the issue you are referring to is specific to USA produced DVDs (Zone 1) - I also have a few of those including WB, zero issues still. So it must be a limited amount of disc production that had an inherent factory flaw, something in the plastic that made it porous and/or susceptible to damage under certain conditions IE change in storage conditions.
My solution would be if this happened, I would suggest to do what I did with one specific CD, (Daft Punk - Homework) that broke twice inwards from the inner circle - I made a safety copy instead of paying 3 times. In my case I'm lucky enough to have a friend who runs a DVD/Bluray shop, so I pretty much walk in there with a pile and walk out with a different pile. Sorry about the long post, hope this helps clearing it up from the European side.
Thanks for all the info. Very interesting and informative ! As far as the advice there will be some stuff that will have to be backed up.
I live in the uk and I've got hundreds of dvds and haven't come across thankfully any laserrot yet. Hope we don't get laser rot on blu rays and 4ks to cos I
Us collectors spend a small fortune.
Thanks for telling me I appreciate it. I'm assuming it is just a US issue but it could be other regions I just don't know. Doesn't seem to affect the UK at all which is good. Yeah I would hope no issues with blurays that would be messed up. I haven't heard of blurays being affected so I think we're ok on those and 4K
A lot of these will probably be reissued on dvd or bluray
If you store your disc in a high humidity climate you’re screwed. Never keep your movies in a garage or attic. They need to be at least in a room temperature room in your house. I also get plastic protectors for all my movies because that is a lifesaver for your movies.
Thanks for the tips
I have a significant number of DVDs, and many are WB. Some DVDs going on 25 years old. No issues so far.
Good to know. This is specifically dealing with primarily 2006-2009