BMMO C5 4780 (780 GHA) on M45
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- BMMO C5 4780 (780 GHA) on the M45, having just passed it's first MOT in 28 years. On withdrawal from service with Midland Red in January 1971, it was converted into a motor caravan by a haulier from Dudley, and he used it to travel around, even taking it onto the continent visiting Paris, and the south of France, among other places. Finally restored to a passenger carrying vehicle once more, following an extensive and comprehensive restoration.
top class filming - really captures the idea of what these magnificent coaches achieved
Stunning vehicle, absolutely at home in the element it was designed for!
wow i remember getting a Midland Red coach to London and it was quick - compared to coach travel in Australia
I wish that I had caught one in service. I missed the CM6T on the London service by one day! I turned up at Digneth with my ticket for London to find five gleaming new Plaxton bodied Leyland Leopard CM14T coaches lined up in lane 1. I got an extremely funny look from an inspector when I asked if there were any more London Coaches. The CM14T was a very poor vehicle compared to the CM%T, and CM6T.
another enjoy video, showcase another vehicle from midland red ,as again head of time ,with some turo charge on these vehicles,i wish travel on when service on birmingham to london
When you put in as much time and effort as Roger has, why not keep it 100% authentic when on the road. I sounds so good why shouldn't it like right too ?
Why the headlights ? - you never saw BMMO coaches or buses of this era driven with headlights on in daylight. It's so inappropriate with such a nice looking and classic vehicle.
Seven years on (sorry) it is indeed true that the C5s DID run with their headlights on in broad daylight - it was to warn others that something quick was approaching. Remember that they could outrun all but the very fastest of cars in their heyday.
According to the story, initially they had a turbocharger, then anxiety and nervousness passengers were forced to install a "toilet". In 1965 they took away the turbocharger .. (From there the story is not clear). The story says that the speed limit for these buses was about 170km / h. It was not the only model created for roads, buses for other brands created midland. According to the story, some Plaxton; Leopard, Foden, Commer, engines must achieve feats similares.¿which is the evidence? .. The only way to find out would be to find a bus this time and make it run at 100 mph, and that video apart to get millions of visits and popularize these buses,would show that history coincides with reality, this histora to come so far, it has been an argument in many related topics but no check.
Hi. The toilets were installed from day 1. The route down the M1 was meant to be non-stop, and was timed at 2h 20m. This was felt to be too long without a toilet. When the service was introduced from Coventry to London (about 2 hrs), the vehicles used had no toilet!
The design speed of the motorway variant of these vehicles was 85 mph, although there are many apocryphal tales of vehicles achieving much faster speeds.
The model that followed this was the CM6T, which had a larger engine (10.5 litre, as opposed to 8.028 litre), and because of this, the turbocharger was not deemed necessary, because the power required to achieve the specified speed was available in naturally aspirated form.
There was one model of the CM5T built with a turbocharger on the 10.5 litre engine. This was intended to have a top speed of 125 mph (170 km/h), but the law was amended in 1967, and a maximum top speed of 70 mph was introduced. Previously there was no limit. The turbocharger was removed, and the vehicle became a standard machine.
The vehicles were designed and built by the company that operated them, and were far in advance of anyone else's vehicles.
Interesting clarification, it ie The engine was built for this bus ?. In some pictures other models that were part of road circuits then, as I suppose, speed depended strictly turbocharger, so we have to add that with enough power any bus could, with proper downshifting, go very appear ..the tradition of 2-stroke engines in England and USA reached its peak, the truth is that this case tends to be just the tip of the iceberg, to show that it was possible to establish routines mobile high velocidad.. the big difference was that the high-speed highway drove this technology. I would like to know what was the reaction of other brands and better understand how these vehiculs kept these speed hp;? .. More questions are generated ..
Yes. Midland Red designed and built their own engines. The 8.028 disel engine was designed in about 1935, and powered all of the company's vehicles unti the 10.5 litre engine was developed in the 50s. Most were normally aspirated. All were 4 stroke. The company did trial a number of engines in the early fifties, which included the Commer 2 stroke opposed piston, and a lightweight aluminium alloy version of their yet to be fully developed 10.5 litre engine.
The specifications of the naturally aspirated 10.5 litre engine were rather amazing. As fitted in their D9 double-decker it was rated at 127BHP at 1700rpm, and could produce at least 465 lb ft of torque at 1000 rpm. I have seen ratings of over 500 lb ft at lower revs.
The engine was fitted in a single Daimler Fleetline bus as a trial by the company. It is said that, depending on how you rated it, it could either produce an extra 10mph, or an extra 1 mpg over the standard Gardner 6LX!
About 700 nm .. is plenty of power for the time, if I remember correctly Gardner is the engine that bears the a39..En that time Mercedes Benz buses were limited to 90 km / h, the magirus deutz were the only ones ventured to run on the routes, the specifications of the reduction were fulfilled according to customer, in many cases, for example in Venezuela the KMF Magirus deutz, originally brought the engine of 110 hp were re-engined(1963), the result was a racing car capable of reaching 100mph..o more .. in Japan, Mitsubishi Fusso reached a high speed model, with passengers standing at 90 mph .. But these buses BMMO seems more incredible, because experience auna concrete and then the road should have given safety standards and I guess it worked .. then to much evidence system, what is missing are exercises.
We used the cm5t at 125mph ?? !!
What engine has she got
The C5 had an engine designed and built
by Midland Red themselves. The original design was from about 1935, and was continually developed until they replaced it with a larger design in the sixties, as buses and coaches got bigger. The swept volume was 8.028 litres. In most applications it was naturally aspirated, but in the CM5 ('M' for motorway) it was turbocharged.
Why find fault? When you have achieved half of what Roger has achieved - then have your pathetic say!