Hikaru doesn't believe Levy can become a GM

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  • čas přidán 25. 10. 2021
  • Hikaru doesn't believe Levy can become a GM. Says it's like his own chance of becoming World Champion: possible but very unlikely
    #levyrozman #gothamchess #gmhikaru #hikarunakamura #hikaru #chess

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  • @khalidsaifullahfuad
    @khalidsaifullahfuad Před rokem +12979

    Even without being a GM his name is always mentioned along with Magnus and hikaru. And a huge number of people are interested in chess thanks to his contribution.

    • @Rick-hx2tk
      @Rick-hx2tk Před rokem +97

      He is a GM now

    • @khalidsaifullahfuad
      @khalidsaifullahfuad Před rokem +803

      @@Rick-hx2tk I think you saw his April fool's video. He's still an IM. Can't blame you I also thought it was real.

    • @lio1234234
      @lio1234234 Před rokem +26

      @@khalidsaifullahfuad he's not a GM?

    • @khalidsaifullahfuad
      @khalidsaifullahfuad Před rokem +374

      @@lio1234234 Sadly no, he quit official chess a while ago. Now he only plays online. 😞.

    • @Anonymous_Service_Leaks
      @Anonymous_Service_Leaks Před rokem +42

      We talking about Levi not becoming GM wake up

  • @AnkhArcRod
    @AnkhArcRod Před 2 lety +19385

    His point about Danya actually makes sense. Danya is always looking to beat the strongest players. That is his nature. If Levy were to play game against a GM without knowing their rating, he would probably play much better. That psychological impact of playing against a GM seems to put him in worse position everytime. It is also worth pointing out that it was Hikaru who, at one point, had said that Levy could absolutely become a GM. But, his recent performances has made him change his mind.

    • @arketra4297
      @arketra4297 Před 2 lety +187

      Can you show where Hikaru ever said Levy could make it as a GM?

    • @abdulrakeebalsarori8171
      @abdulrakeebalsarori8171 Před 2 lety +1031

      @@arketra4297 he did I can approve it, I just don't think it's that easy to find that part. Somebody will post it anyway.

    • @cj123pro5
      @cj123pro5 Před 2 lety +585

      @@arketra4297 yes I rmbr him saying it too, it was a random part on one of his vids or on twitch.

    • @reinsaxony4623
      @reinsaxony4623 Před 2 lety +284

      Wow, I thought I was the only one who remember Hikaru saying that.

    • @danieljoung5398
      @danieljoung5398 Před 2 lety +164

      Yea I thought I had a fake memory. Maybe it's the Mandela effect😂

  • @vexnightmare6364
    @vexnightmare6364 Před 2 lety +10458

    Levy beat 3 GM-rated opponents in a tournament when he was still a 20 year old FM (He has a video on it, really good watch). And he himself even said that at the time he didn't respect his opponents' ratings in that way and played the way he wanted, which resulted in complicated games that turned out in his favour. Naka has a point. Levy's turning into the old, positional stereotype of player who's afraid to take chances, when he should be throwing shit into the ceiling fan like he was 5 years ago. It's his best chance to upset GMs

    • @Saskaruto16
      @Saskaruto16 Před 2 lety +740

      If you haven't played the position much before there is a good chance they haven't either. Magnus does this to people all the time, plays something he knows and then takes it off somewhere crazy and just finds and advantage to win anyway, and if he realizes he's screwed only then does he go for draws.

    • @phenix2403
      @phenix2403 Před 2 lety +74

      Im here for the journey anyway, i hope he keeps trying

    • @r0b0hobo
      @r0b0hobo Před 2 lety +106

      @@Saskaruto16 does Magnus do that? The biggest criticism I hear of Magnus is he plays very conservatively and beats down his opponents in the endgame while Kasparov was the one to get into crazy positions.

    • @Saskaruto16
      @Saskaruto16 Před 2 lety +256

      @@r0b0hobo From what I have seen against the super GMs he does not do that. But against the new GMs or much lower rated GMs he does play a lot of very uncommon lines. Not total nonsense the way Kasperov or the insane Dubov do though.
      But he will definitely take it off the beaten path when he thinks he should be winning.

    • @kissthefish2188
      @kissthefish2188 Před 2 lety +120

      @@Saskaruto16 He does that to avoid giving up his prep for the later super GMs

  • @StephenIC
    @StephenIC Před 2 lety +17382

    Everything he's saying is right, but it feels weird to talk about your friend like this on a live broadcast. "He's unlikely to ever fulfill his dreams" lol

    • @tahmeedchowdhury0007
      @tahmeedchowdhury0007 Před 2 lety +1941

      Bold of you to assume they're actually friends. They haven't collaborated in forever

    • @abirshrivastava3388
      @abirshrivastava3388 Před 2 lety +400

      @@tahmeedchowdhury0007 They appeared on some live stream together I think... I dont think the stream was from either of them, but it was somewhere

    • @anupraj18
      @anupraj18 Před 2 lety +129

      it izz wat it izz

    • @Ledrummer
      @Ledrummer Před 2 lety +778

      At that level chess becomes a job, friends or not

    • @deadvirgin428
      @deadvirgin428 Před 2 lety +452

      Levy just wants the GM title for his own brand, he's interested in the CZcams clickbait, it really feels more like a whim rather than his "dream".

  • @alexsmith3598
    @alexsmith3598 Před 2 lety +5409

    He is saying " When Levy says he wants to be a GM, he isn't realistic." But what it sounds like he actually means is that Levy needs to change his mindset which is correct.

    • @onegerard1
      @onegerard1 Před 2 lety +9

      oh you know better..? and said it in a sentence, one of them, sure sure

    • @roberthansen5727
      @roberthansen5727 Před 2 lety +258

      @@tak5256 Intelligence and magic have nothing to do with being a chess GM.

    • @rcmrocks2374
      @rcmrocks2374 Před 2 lety +42

      I think he should've been more considerate to a friend, have the words somewhere in there "if he keeps reaching for it then i believe one day he will make it but currently he isnt on that level yet" the way it came out was a not said well however true. because at the end of the day hes a friend. thats just my op tho

    • @SphinxOfKairo
      @SphinxOfKairo Před 2 lety +19

      @@rcmrocks2374 agreed i thought they were cool if I was levy i’d feel kind of offended by this although i’m sure he probably agrees with hikaru

    • @12jswilson
      @12jswilson Před 2 lety +42

      Levy also just isn't that good (relative to GMs and GM strength players). Levy is an IM and plays at IM strength. He's notably much weaker than Aman Hambleton, who himself was admittedly lucky to become a GM and basically had to become a hermit for about 18 months. He likes to get out of theory early by playing the English and some offbeat sidelines, which is smart given his content creation schedule doesn't lend itself to intense preparation. However, you still have to win by having superior understanding of chess and strategic ideas as he also isn't a fierce attacker that sacrifices. He just doesn't display this level of understanding and when he goes up against GMs and guys that earn their GM norms, it really shows. That's why Levy often ends up begging for a draw because he just doesn't understand the position as well as his opponent. He's still better than ~99.9% of chess players as well as being one of the most successful, if not THE most successful, chess content creators.

  • @jaapvandevelden
    @jaapvandevelden Před 2 lety +5664

    Perhaps this video will give Levy some extra motivation to hang in there and pursue his ambition. Only relatively very very few players have the talent to even think of pursuing this objective. I personally enjoy following him on his pursuit and wish him all the luck. From watching his matches against some GMs I can see Hikaru’s point; some more self-confidence and drive to win will go a long way.

    • @liljackypaper
      @liljackypaper Před 2 lety +119

      I agree that I think he needs some more confidence. I've watched some of his recap videos where he is explaining his thought process on why he played an opening or line and he seems to be over thinking. Like "well I was gonna play this but then I remember this or I heard he plays this and I didnt want this to happen etc" I think he just needs to stop thinking so much and go out and play his best lines.
      Also, I imagine he has added pressure with all of his Gotham community following so closely.

    • @leviuchiha3706
      @leviuchiha3706 Před 2 lety +31

      But UPLOADING everyday stupid funny videos on YT won't help him ...

    • @rishigayle4013
      @rishigayle4013 Před 2 lety +20

      @@leviuchiha3706 Add revenue.

    • @Gush27
      @Gush27 Před 2 lety +16

      @@rishigayle4013 Well he needs to choose, ad revenue or title? Not that he’d get it anyway. But it’s impossible to do both

    • @chrisfifield-smith
      @chrisfifield-smith Před 2 lety +80

      I think Hikaru's take is constructive. He's not just saying Levi isn't good enough, he gives a specific reason that Levi can work on.

  • @inafridge8573
    @inafridge8573 Před 2 lety +914

    Levy has said similar things before. His advice about gaining rating was, "If you want to reach a goal, don't have respect for that goal."

    • @apotaz3353
      @apotaz3353 Před 2 lety +90

      That's really inspiring actually, it's weird but now that you said it, it totally make sense in my mind, thx!

    • @mezamezz
      @mezamezz Před 2 lety +3

      yeah but how can u not respect the highest rank?

    • @dieterschneegans1850
      @dieterschneegans1850 Před 2 lety +13

      I mean it's a helpful way of thinking but there are obviously boundaries to what you can achieve. I won't become president of the United States or world chess champion once I try and convince myself that I don't 'respect' these goal

    • @marcusvergara6193
      @marcusvergara6193 Před 2 lety +111

      @@mezamezz what they mean is “don’t cower in fear of your opponent just based off of their rank”.

    • @Tyguy760
      @Tyguy760 Před 2 lety +10

      @@dieterschneegans1850 Right the quote in no way implies that if you just don't respect a goal, then you will absolutely achieve that goal. It's just a recommended attitude in terms of approaching or attempting to achieve a goal.

  • @MrNikolidas
    @MrNikolidas Před 2 lety +3041

    What’s particularly frustrating about Levy’s play is that after each tournament game of his that he analyses, his mistakes are usually a direct result of second-guessing his instincts. Every time he says “I thought about playing this or this”, those moves turn out to be better according to the engine, either positionally or strategically, than the move he actually played. Levy knows this, yet he just can’t seem to shake his insecurities during the game itself.

    • @andrewabbott9667
      @andrewabbott9667 Před 2 lety +310

      one thing he doesnt tell you (as much) is all the times he considers a wrong move and then fighres out why its wrong, bc that isnt as interesting as missing the best move. its not instincts its he just isnt a position rn to find and justify those moves, and thats ok bc he is working on it

    • @MrNikolidas
      @MrNikolidas Před 2 lety +58

      @@andrewabbott9667 A fair take.

    • @dishman1966
      @dishman1966 Před 2 lety +18

      I am way worse than Levy, only an expert but I find he makes the same errors I do in his thinking. He evaluates a position or tactical sequence as worse but he didn’t actually calculate past the evaluation and see that no, he is actually better.

    • @MrCheeze
      @MrCheeze Před 2 lety +19

      I don't think that's really the case, it's a structure of how he narrates. He always gives the actual line that was played last, and if the best move after analysis was one that he considered, he mentions it. But in a real game you're just considering several candidate moves and then picking one.

    • @dishman1966
      @dishman1966 Před 2 lety +1

      @@MrCheeze I don’t know. He often says he sees this or that and then just goes, no, that sucks but isn’t really calculating because he went negative.

  • @42cpulaski
    @42cpulaski Před 2 lety +5870

    Levy can become a GM. just isn't realistic when he is running a CZcams channel doing content. To be a GM, your sole focus has to be on studying and playing chess. Levy has too many different things going on. Again, not saying it's not possible. I'm actually rooting for him to overcome the obstacles and do the impossible.

  • @emilwallin1176
    @emilwallin1176 Před 2 lety +2185

    Hikaru's not insulting Levy in a way "youre too stupid to become GM" He's saying in the manner/style Levy's is playing combined with how much effort he puts into content, he wont become GM. If he would change these things Im sure Hikaru would make a new statement

    • @KeithDCanada
      @KeithDCanada Před 2 lety +119

      I wish more people would be honest like this. This isn't 'I don't think he can do it', this is 'at his level of ability right now it's not likely'. It's unfortunate that becoming a grandmaster requires, of most people, the sole dedication of study and practice. Having a full time business on the side takes a lot of your time, and I just don't think it's compatible with that pursuit. I do think Levy is going to have a hard choice in the future.... if he absolutely wants the GM title (and there's no shame in going either way), he may be faced with putting his channel and other business interests on the backburner.
      I think he has an amazing niche right now with with his channel, his charitable interests, his devotion to increasing the level of the chess community as a whole, and the support of a partner who is in it with him. If he chose not to pursue the GM title, I think he would absolutely still be in the big win column. I do hope he is happy with whatever decision he makes. I'm pulling for him either way.

    • @p.avatar8079
      @p.avatar8079 Před 2 lety +4

      @@KeithDCanada If there's gonna be a Fischer Random or Chess960 tournaments and ratings in the future, maybe it will be possible to reach for the GM or even super GM title even for those who have side jobs, since you don't need to spend that much time in preparation.

    • @JagmaChess
      @JagmaChess Před 2 lety

      Right 👉

    • @timothy2204
      @timothy2204 Před 2 lety +2

      that’s true. it’s the mindset, not the skill necessarily .

    • @KeithDCanada
      @KeithDCanada Před 2 lety +5

      @@p.avatar8079 I do like the way Fischer Random disarms opening theory. It leads to games that are far more creative early on, and less about standard book responses in 'the best lines'. I'd watch that tourney.

  • @walkingphilosopher
    @walkingphilosopher Před 2 lety +814

    As a B rated player, of course I cannot comment on whether or not I believe Levy can become a GM. But IMs like Levy are those who are making chess more accessible to the masses. I would not be watching high level chess games if it was not for their explanations. They translate the game of the grandmasters into language I can understand.

    • @PHeMoX
      @PHeMoX Před 2 lety +44

      I know what you're saying, but a lot of times the explanations by GMs are even more on point why something is bad or good. I think a lot of IM consider themselves great chess players or even great teachers, when kind of they're not on the highest level.

    • @self-righteousideologue9398
      @self-righteousideologue9398 Před 2 lety +8

      What's a B rated player? What rating are you?

    • @darrenfleming7901
      @darrenfleming7901 Před 2 lety +156

      @@PHeMoX IMs are phenomenally good chess players and I hate this weird ass disrespect that people online have for IMs, just because they watch GMs who are considerably better and so they see IMs as being way weaker than they really are. Also, most GMs and IMs aren't the best chess teachers because they see the game in a way that is completely different from casual players and so even communicating why something is good is hard. Imo casuals players like myself and probably yourself too are straight up not good enough to even get anything from an IM/GMs explanation.

    • @justinspear2566
      @justinspear2566 Před 2 lety +25

      Well put. I said the sentence “I use Caro-con against kings pawn openings when playing black and Accelerated London when playing white” and then explained the reasoning behind all the moves I make, and the person I was talking to was blown away at how much I knew, and that’s totally thanks to Levy. Honestly I’m happy with the fact that I’m rated 850 and striving to get to 4 digits.

    • @phenix2403
      @phenix2403 Před 2 lety +56

      @@PHeMoX IMs are masters, and far far better than the average person. GM's are the exception, theres only a few hundred in the billions of people on earth. Saying IMs are bad because they don't compare to GMs is dumb
      Besides that GMs tend to be less sociable or worse at properly explaining their thought process in general. Super GMs are even worse (example of magnus playing blitz, he gives good ideas that i can follow, but someone rated in the triple digits may not understand). This may just be because alot of IMs do lessons and so have experience explaining, but thats besides the point

  • @GamerLoff
    @GamerLoff Před 2 lety +250

    Something that was cut from his stream were that he also said that he believes Levy can become a GM but then he would have to stop CZcams and streaming and solely focus on chess.

    • @sterey3571
      @sterey3571 Před 2 lety

      Yea, Hans Niemann is a good example for that though

    • @RaymondBCrisp
      @RaymondBCrisp Před 2 lety +26

      Levy needs a sports psychologist. He gets angry at himself way too easily, and it's not good for keeping his head in the game. Once Levy does that, his game will improve again, whether he's still streaming or not. It might not get him to GM level on its own, but I feel it's an essential element.

    • @stevedusome
      @stevedusome Před 2 lety +10

      i wish levy would start talking to gm aman hambleton. training with hikaru may technically be better, but levy needs to learn to how to chill his energy and training with hikaru just deepens his defeatist mentality

    • @michaelh878
      @michaelh878 Před 2 lety +1

      @@stevedusome He doesn't train with Hikaru. He has a real coach.

    • @12jswilson
      @12jswilson Před 2 lety +3

      He has a shot if he goes full Aman Hambleton and just lives like a monk for a couple years only studying chess and little else. Aman also barely made it and rode the London wave before people knew how to neutralize it and I think Aman is just more talented than Levy too. Aman hasn't been doing a ton of intensive study afaik and his current FIDE rating is higher than Levy's last few tournament performance ratings.

  • @PhantomAarantula
    @PhantomAarantula Před 2 lety +4872

    I'm just fascinated that he can maintain this train of thought while playing Chess with only 1 minute .
    edit: I get it. Hikaru's a chess god. You don't have to keep dunking on me for thinking he's amazing. I'm appalled at how people feel the need to downplay my fascination with him just because he's amongst the best players in the world.

    • @mjood1992
      @mjood1992 Před 2 lety +89

      It became to him like muscle memory

    • @Seifer_42
      @Seifer_42 Před 2 lety +75

      Hikaru's pattern recognition is the true GM here

    • @FlorianWendelborn
      @FlorianWendelborn Před 2 lety +167

      He's playing against a 1000. If he'd concentrate I'm sure he could win 200 games in a row with a queen and two rooks down.
      This is no different than watching a pro esports player warm up by beating easy bots while talking to someone. It's trivial at some point to beat much much lower skill opponents

    • @PHeMoX
      @PHeMoX Před 2 lety +52

      @@Seifer_42 Did you see his opponent? Hangs a queen, hangs (sacrifices..) a rook, hangs an inevitable mate. Nah, these games were easy, even for an intermediate chess player that has no title.

    • @epicwolves125
      @epicwolves125 Před 2 lety +14

      He’s the best bullet player in the world

  • @nathancarroll7347
    @nathancarroll7347 Před 2 lety +335

    I think the bigger part of Levy's struggles are the mental aspect of pushing forward. He has picked up winning positions against a few GM's this year, but hasn't converted them because he second guesses himself or assumes the opponent didn't play an inaccurate move, when they actually did.

    • @zizhdizzabagus456
      @zizhdizzabagus456 Před 2 lety +4

      Sure. Thats because he is weak

    • @arne8158
      @arne8158 Před 2 lety +40

      @@zizhdizzabagus456 That's mean, and who the heck are you to pass judgement onto people you don't even know?

    • @zizhdizzabagus456
      @zizhdizzabagus456 Před 2 lety +1

      @@arne8158 that's not mean, that's a fact. Actually that's exactly what hikaru saying. He's making fun of Levi and him being weak flagger

    • @arne8158
      @arne8158 Před 2 lety +63

      @@zizhdizzabagus456 Hikaru is certainly not "making fun" of Levy. Way to get the wrong impression my guy. No need to project your own douchiness on other people.

    • @phenix2403
      @phenix2403 Před 2 lety +34

      @@zizhdizzabagus456 - 10 elo

  • @zennok
    @zennok Před 3 měsíci +11

    2.5 years later, Levy starting his gm grind again - I need to get out of my head and actually go for wins instead of second guessing myself out of winning positions and refusing to take risks

  • @unacuentadeyoutube13
    @unacuentadeyoutube13 Před rokem +61

    Had a friend some years ago that played incredibly well (in the tournaments we attended, he often ended first and I ended second just because I couldn't beat him).
    But he had a slight problem: against strong players in, for example, the national championship, he would just try incredibly hard to get a draw. He got a draw in 8/9 games once.
    However, he made a change during lockdown: he started going for the win every time. Last year he won the sub-16 national championship, and I'm sure this year he'll win the sub-18!

  • @maksymiliankaminski7414
    @maksymiliankaminski7414 Před 2 lety +19

    This video aged well for Hikaru.

  • @TankAndKingsman
    @TankAndKingsman Před 2 lety +124

    Well Hikaru is not wrong, beside Levy can still try, he need more games and some wine so he would stop overthinking and go all in

  • @stonksmonmr6658
    @stonksmonmr6658 Před 2 lety +191

    not the biggest hikaru fan, but his opinion on this topic in PARTICULAR certainly has more weight than the strange stuff i'm seeing in these comments here. He knows levi can become a gm, but not current levi with his current mindset. As someone who has played chess and other sports competitively myself, revamping your mentality and facing reality over and over in an attempt to break plateaus and overcome time creeping up on you is part of the job. Doubters will be part of it and a VERY important reality check as well. It's not all "face all and rise, prove them all wrong", its "I understand, this is how it is, now what can i do to change it?"

    • @xxchxxzero
      @xxchxxzero Před 2 lety +1

      the only real problem is Levi has got his peak in the past, there's no reason he could achieve the GM goal with more age on his side and less time to work on chess. He's facing 12/13 yo at same elo he has now, the kinda player he should beat and he thrashes agaisnt them, so really unrealistic he can get the 3 norms he need

    • @foxygamerxdyt7356
      @foxygamerxdyt7356 Před 2 lety +1

      @@xxchxxzero The thing is, content creation (not even just content creation but daily uploads) take a ton of time, which could be used to study, but he prefers to do YT, if not I think his chances would be way higher

    • @yoosh9034
      @yoosh9034 Před 2 lety +3

      @@xxchxxzero There are dozens of GMs in the 12-14 age bracket... age isn’t so limiting in chess. The young kids he faces are extremely talented players, their age is irrelevant.

    • @DerickMasai
      @DerickMasai Před 2 lety +2

      @@yoosh9034 I think what he means is that the more you age the more free time diminishes. 12 - 14 year olds have nothing to worry about except what's for dinner so older players are at a disadvantage here. The same reason super GMs are so young

    • @matchington1148
      @matchington1148 Před 2 lety

      *Levy

  • @pnxda
    @pnxda Před rokem +8

    Now look at this he predicted himself becoming an world champion.

    • @iwanttobeabillionaire1703
      @iwanttobeabillionaire1703 Před rokem +1

      One of the goats right there
      PS: I have a duck video, a chicken video, a video where i am begging for money on Twitter, a walking video, a video where i am playing with my nuts. A short with a blog. A Naruto Arena video, a corn shelling video... Also a patreon

  • @Xeem7
    @Xeem7 Před rokem +4

    Bro’s casually talking and playing chess while I struggle to think 💀

  • @abspackrecords5406
    @abspackrecords5406 Před 2 lety +545

    Honestly now i really want Levy to be a GM

  • @Vloggen
    @Vloggen Před měsícem +8

    People saying that this didn't age well, but the reason Levy is doing good rn is bcs he actively worked on the critic given here

    • @Ibbysz
      @Ibbysz Před měsícem +1

      Fr. This was said 2+ years ago and levy has improved and actually worked on these weaknesses

  • @The_funny_person
    @The_funny_person Před 2 měsíci +2

    2 years later and levy is beating GMs like wildfire.
    THE GRIND NEVER STOPS BABYYYY

  • @grimeybeast1465
    @grimeybeast1465 Před 2 lety +58

    There's someone else doesn't think Levy will be a GM. Levy.

    • @treeinafield5022
      @treeinafield5022 Před 2 lety +1

      what? he wouldnt be playing the tournaments if he didnt think he had a shot

    • @mabel3989
      @mabel3989 Před 2 lety +27

      @@treeinafield5022 he's doing it for content

    • @deadlypendroppingby
      @deadlypendroppingby Před 2 lety +7

      @@treeinafield5022 He said himself that he only prepared 1,5h every day when he should have been doing 6 for such an endeavor.

    • @stephen6272
      @stephen6272 Před 2 lety +5

      @@mabel3989 shitty to just say something like that about someone, when you don't actually know and are just guessing

    • @mabel3989
      @mabel3989 Před 2 lety +10

      @@stephen6272 i can do 2+2. It's impossible to become GM with the effort Levy is making. Every GM would tell you that if they're being honest. Levy is not stupid so it's doing it for other reasons. If you look at the views to the recaps of his games at the tournaments you get your reason. You're free to think otherwise.

  • @Yash42189
    @Yash42189 Před 2 lety +382

    Funny how the same happens with Hikaru when he plays against Magnus. He is always on the defensive, getting a slightly worst position and trying to hold it.

    • @aayushadlakha7425
      @aayushadlakha7425 Před 2 lety +101

      well but the diff is hikaru doesn't believe he has a shot at world champion, Fun observation though

    • @Yash42189
      @Yash42189 Před 2 lety +86

      @@aayushadlakha7425 To be honest from what he said it sounded like he had a better shot at becoming a WC than levy becoming a GM, which i think is at least debatable

    • @aayushadlakha7425
      @aayushadlakha7425 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Yash42189 huh if it sounds like that i see

    • @wellcubed9626
      @wellcubed9626 Před 2 lety +1

      Well,yes.but ...that's not da point....hmm whatever

    • @CyanGM
      @CyanGM Před 2 lety +8

      I mean yes, but one is the highest rated player of all time and the others are barely 2500 older GMs. So I don't see how one compares to the other.

  • @aleguitarra
    @aleguitarra Před měsícem +7

    Actually hi is on track... june 2024

    • @zezinho_1
      @zezinho_1 Před měsícem

      It’s still a long run for Levvy. He has to keep performing in this tournament. But still missing the rating and two GM norms

    • @wooshifgay462
      @wooshifgay462 Před měsícem

      @@zezinho_1he needs to win one game and then draw, the hard part is kinda over

  • @T1J
    @T1J Před rokem +3

    its funny because hikaru was a legitimate threat to challenge for the world championship this year

  • @fulltimeslackerii8229
    @fulltimeslackerii8229 Před 7 měsíci +5

    2 years later and he still hasn’t hit the 2500 requirement to become GM. I hope he makes it one day

  • @kazikmajster5650
    @kazikmajster5650 Před měsícem +2

    And 2 years later Hikaru is farming Levy going for GM.

  • @tellurius4951
    @tellurius4951 Před 2 lety +444

    Hikaru is right, it's hard for me to admit this as a Levi subscriber, but it's true. And I'm pretty sure most of us would agree to give up video during tournaments to give him extra time to prepare and study

    • @buttrball2214
      @buttrball2214 Před 2 lety +9

      the thing is tho that Levy gets his energy from videos after his games, he loves doing it and he wouldn't want it any other way

    • @tellurius4951
      @tellurius4951 Před 2 lety +32

      @@buttrball2214 well, then where is no way for him to become gm

    • @AbousayahtheRoller
      @AbousayahtheRoller Před 2 lety +1

      Making vodeos is the job of levy, he does it to make living, tournaments are for the GM title prestige.

    • @Temax6
      @Temax6 Před 2 lety +16

      @Gabriel Mirukaj lol wtf, chess is his passion, but more specifically teaching chess. You can clearly tell the guy loves what he does on CZcams, and it's certainly feasible that sharing his wins and losses with his community energises him.

    • @kkarx
      @kkarx Před 2 lety +1

      It is not about time to study. He's been studying chess for.how long now? It is about potential. You either got it or not. If you don't no amount of work will help you.

  • @anthonymendoza1327
    @anthonymendoza1327 Před 2 lety +44

    Levy would agree with you that he doesn't have much of a shot at GM. But that is what makes watching him try entertaining. The rest of us feel like he is one of us trying something extraordinary. Levy is a expert teacher and creator of chess videos. As such he is of great value to the game whether or not he succeeds in his GM quest.

  • @scarleeetcs
    @scarleeetcs Před 2 lety +9

    me, a brazilian who dont know understand english: nice bullet skills hikaru

  • @uraveragehoovy
    @uraveragehoovy Před rokem +1

    No one:
    Hikaru’s Opponent: **casually blunders their queen**

  • @Zikuth
    @Zikuth Před 3 měsíci +5

    Look at Hikaru becoming WC. This is going to be funny in a few months

  • @keng3162
    @keng3162 Před 2 lety +3

    Get recked hikaru

  • @JVpiano
    @JVpiano Před rokem +5

    This ended well

  • @alexwingo8094
    @alexwingo8094 Před rokem +5

    Here after Hikaru has won two different world championships

  • @oladapoadu2787
    @oladapoadu2787 Před 2 lety +3

    Makes sense and this video is not just for Levy but for people aspiring to be a GM ,you have to look to beat them not to survive against them,this might actually change the mindset if Levy to go after them ,thanks for the advice Hikaru,needed it .

  • @JimTDF
    @JimTDF Před 2 lety +45

    I agree with Hikaru but I still submit that the main reason Levy will not become a GM is that he cannot afford to stop doing all of his other stuff for a while. He has become a hostage of his CZcams/Twitch empire - which is not saying that is a bad thing, I for one think that he has done awesomely great and he is super-good in what he does. However, now it looks like he simply cannot say smth like "f**k those money and those videos, I really want to become GM and then I will come back to this" - alas it does not seem like that can happen. Basically, a few others did the GM thing first and only then started being streamers or lecturers on YT. But Levy did that after becoming an IM and now this behemoth that he has created (a beautiful behemoth though it is) is standing in the way of the GM dream. Again, I for one truly believe that he simply should admit that he is not going to be a GM but he is not in any way a worse chess teacher / streamer / promoter for not being a GM, imho. Dixi.

    • @itsyourenotyour9101
      @itsyourenotyour9101 Před 2 lety +4

      All his content is chess related though. How much extra time does he need when he constantly is reviewing chess material? I don't see what removing twitch or CZcams would really add, except living like a homeless person? If anything he gets more time than the average person with a 9-5 job.

    • @daeuri
      @daeuri Před 2 lety +12

      @@itsyourenotyour9101 Preparing chess content for public consumption is not the same thing as working on one's own game. You might want to check out Levy's interview of Anish Girl on his Gotham City podcast. Anish described his preparation that is focused, and obsessive, in a way Levy isn't.
      I think Levy would do himself a big favor if he narrowed his opening repertoire (for now) to reflect how he likes to play so that he can get positions he is comfortable playing no matter the level of competition. When I watched his recaps from his last few tournaments, it seemed to me he got into trouble whenever he played openings he did not know deeply.

    • @abhinavshankar414
      @abhinavshankar414 Před 2 lety +3

      @@itsyourenotyour9101 making a chess video for a beginner is completely different than preparing for a game against a GM

    • @lucasng4712
      @lucasng4712 Před 2 lety

      @@itsyourenotyour9101 LMAO no

    • @kristen1684
      @kristen1684 Před 2 lety

      @@lucasng4712 can we not have restarted people in a civilized conversation? Thanks

  • @fencserx9423
    @fencserx9423 Před 2 lety +10

    Hikaru has about as much tact in his delivery as someone who studied chess all his life. To translate what I THINK he’s saying is “At the moment Levy has a long way to go, but he certainly is not there yet, Thats just the reality of it. He needs to change a lot of things about his play before he’s seriously a contender for the title”

  • @memedaddy007
    @memedaddy007 Před měsícem +3

    This aged pretty well 😂😂

    • @Niko_229
      @Niko_229 Před měsícem

      He can definitely get it after a couple of years

  • @Abhinav-cn6qo
    @Abhinav-cn6qo Před 2 měsíci +3

    A great man once said
    "Levy can be a GM but a GM can't become levy"

  • @soufianekohlschreiber8263
    @soufianekohlschreiber8263 Před 2 lety +32

    I think hikaru describe the same thing happens to him when he is against Carlsen

    • @kevin-7091
      @kevin-7091 Před 2 lety +2

      He did mention about him becoming a world champion

    • @cynicanal111
      @cynicanal111 Před 2 lety +2

      Hikaru himself has admitted in the past that he changes his style and becomes too passive to his own detriment against players he deems as "better".

  • @liljackypaper
    @liljackypaper Před 2 lety +140

    I think Levy needs to stop over thinking so much going into his games. A bunch of times he explained why he played a certain line and it seemed like he was getting too cute. Just go out and play your best lines and play with conviction.
    Also imagine he has a decent amount of added pressure with the Gotham community following so closely 👍

    • @Undefined14
      @Undefined14 Před 2 lety +12

      I think that's a guaranteed way to fail, unfortunately. That's a very passive way to play and will make it very easy for his opponents to prepare side lines. That puts the ball in their court from the get go. If your opponent can control exactly which side line you end up playing, they'll have all of the moves fresh in mind.

    • @mwangikimani3970
      @mwangikimani3970 Před 2 lety +2

      He also makes fundamental positional mistakes. Plays the Trompowsky but doesn't seem comfortable keeping the tension with the Bishop pin which means he doesn't understand the positional requirements/deficits of an opening that has an (too) early Bishop sortie.
      These are things a young strong IM would know. That said he is stronger than most of us.

    • @Astray71
      @Astray71 Před 2 lety

      Every time he does his tournament recaps, everything he does is done because it was drilled into him and he doesn't take the opportunity to improvise lines and outplay. All of his opponents can blitz out moves because they can feel confident in knowing the line well enough to where they don't need to calculate to a Stockfish level depth

    • @strikercool911
      @strikercool911 Před 2 lety +5

      @@mwangikimani3970 he never olays the trompowsky in classical.

    • @liljackypaper
      @liljackypaper Před 2 lety +1

      @@JM-tj5qm That isn't what I'm saying at all. I'm saying it seems like he plays lines that are sub optimal in terms of his familiarity to try and either surprise or take opponents out of their comfort zone when he would probably be better off just playing his best stuff

  • @superidol238
    @superidol238 Před měsícem +5

    HE WILL BE

  • @omarawad6353
    @omarawad6353 Před rokem +8

    This aged well 😮‍💨

  • @michaellovinon3467
    @michaellovinon3467 Před rokem +3

    I have a very similar problem, normally when I know I'm going against a rated or strong chess player I totally whiff it but when I don't know the rating of my opponent I tend to get better results like the other day I was able to draw a 1700+ rated player without training(tbh the position was in my favour and I won in pieces) in a tournament just because I didn't know he was good at the game.

  • @Funnygooner10
    @Funnygooner10 Před 2 lety +7

    I mean, he could’ve put it in a nicer way. He could’ve ended with ‘Hope he proves me wrong.’

    • @anthonyjs8048
      @anthonyjs8048 Před 2 lety +2

      Yea I was thinking the same thing, there was definitely a minor deficiency in empathy from Hikaru here. Maybe that's just his personality. Like I'm all for someone fearlessly putting his honest opinions out there, that is commendable. However, Hikaru has a wide audience in the exact same community as Levy, and is a respected, top player - so those comments have weight. They are definitely going to make their way back to Levy, and as far as I know, there was no bad blood between the two (and hopefully that continues if it's true). So I could imagine the unapologetic and blunt delivery without any attempt at emotional support would feel kind of blind-siding and maybe hurt a little. Hopefully Levy, if he really wants to prioritize becoming a GM, can use this as motivation.

    • @Funnygooner10
      @Funnygooner10 Před 2 lety +1

      @Anthony JS feel the same,
      I think it’s just his personality , but empathy goes a long way. For example imagine if he put it like this ‘I love levy and I think he’s a great content creator but ‘give reasons’ and end with I hope he proves me wrong.

  • @unusualed1287
    @unusualed1287 Před rokem +1

    Sounds like some candid advice for Levy

  • @Welderborea
    @Welderborea Před rokem

    It’s kind of nice how honest chess content creators and players are about each other.

  • @dogedude7823
    @dogedude7823 Před rokem +5

    This aged well

  • @littlekittyskulls
    @littlekittyskulls Před rokem +4

    lol seeing this after levy quit chess

  • @dharris5887
    @dharris5887 Před rokem

    I finally realized something for myself is stopping going for end games and trading pieces go for the throat when I see the time

  • @ANonymous-mo6xp
    @ANonymous-mo6xp Před rokem +5

    Levy is however, likely the paramount chess teacher today. The best teachers are often not the best of the best, but are the ones who instinctively know the struggles of learning the game.

  • @Darkphoenix8888
    @Darkphoenix8888 Před rokem +4

    Hikaru talking about anything : ☝️🤓

  • @MrMelon247
    @MrMelon247 Před 2 lety +7

    Hikaru is a CM.
    Copyright Master

  • @mattoucas869
    @mattoucas869 Před rokem +3

    Lol, funny how he is smurfing in bullet lol

  • @jonahbadley2428
    @jonahbadley2428 Před 2 lety +2

    Aged like a fine wine.

  • @augustorodriguez743
    @augustorodriguez743 Před rokem +1

    My unmatched perspicacity coupled with sheer indefatigability makes me a feared opponent in any realm of human endeavor

  • @debussychopin2766
    @debussychopin2766 Před 2 lety +32

    Right now the way he plays in his tournaments he always let's his opponents dictate how the games go. He never takes a game in initiative and drive it all the way through.

    • @countdracula7896
      @countdracula7896 Před 2 lety +7

      He just can't help it cause his prep isn't enough at all , if you were following his tournaments you can see most of his losses are where he can't match his opponent's prep and if you can't match prep basically you are going to end up in a slightly worse position if not lost and that also happened to him regularly.

    • @illusion2438
      @illusion2438 Před 2 lety +2

      @@countdracula7896 Gms put like 10 hours and more in prep a day. Levi can’t match that, he has to put a lot of work into his channel. Even IMs who prep twice as much as Levi struggle, chess is ruthless.

    • @clashicedelixir2187
      @clashicedelixir2187 Před 2 lety

      @@illusion2438 Stop lying Levy is one of greatest chess players ever

    • @illusion2438
      @illusion2438 Před 2 lety +1

      @@clashicedelixir2187 Demonstrably not true and not even Levy would agree to this but go off.

  • @koreantext5867
    @koreantext5867 Před rokem +4

    That world champion remark aged well

    • @JuanBautista-fd7yv
      @JuanBautista-fd7yv Před rokem +2

      He obviously meant the classical time world championship

    • @lojjikbraughler5816
      @lojjikbraughler5816 Před rokem +1

      @@JuanBautista-fd7yv with Magnus not participating anymore he does have a legitimate shot now if he wins a candidates tournament. he came really close to getting the second place spot that Ding Liren is in

  • @Bozowomp
    @Bozowomp Před 3 měsíci +2

    He WILL BE he just got back on the grind… I’ll be back

  • @bpmachete
    @bpmachete Před 2 lety +2

    this aged well. Sux but it is realistic and probably truth now.

  • @parkerpete6654
    @parkerpete6654 Před 2 lety +11

    Levy has admitted he studies for 2 hours every day? No way that's enough. Levy's current skill level of around 2350 is honestly kinda accurate. To hit 2500 he'll need to dedicate much more time doing serious study given his lack of knowledge in all sorts of places, just like the younger wonderkids and chess professionals are most likely doing. Like Alireza gave up streaming and playing bullet and look at how much progress he's made recently. Levy's content creation is definitely getting in the way of his progress to GM.

  • @emanuelrosenthal4271
    @emanuelrosenthal4271 Před 2 lety +20

    Levy's biggest problem is his nerves. If he neutralize these, I think everything is possible.

    • @jootpepet
      @jootpepet Před 2 lety +8

      Its not just nerves. He's outclassed and he knows it. Thats why he's nervous in the first place.
      He needs to train harder, as hard as a GM should, and build his confidence by improving his game.

    • @emanuelrosenthal4271
      @emanuelrosenthal4271 Před 2 lety +2

      @@jootpepet Training doesn't help if every game is an emotional rollercoaster, where you can't think straight.
      You have to take the emotions out of it, if you wan't to reach anywhere close to your already existing potential.

    • @siddhantchavan1370
      @siddhantchavan1370 Před 2 lety +2

      500 rated player pointing out his weakness.

    • @jootpepet
      @jootpepet Před 2 lety +1

      @@emanuelrosenthal4271 I agree with you, emotions should be checked in a game of chess. But im not as naive as to say that its all about emotion. Thats stupid. Even Levy will tell you that.
      All GM's success came from hard work and dedication, and with that comes confidence and focus.
      If you're better than your peers, then your skill shall take over your fear.

    • @emanuelrosenthal4271
      @emanuelrosenthal4271 Před 2 lety

      @@jootpepet I simply believe my order is better.
      Get your emotions together, play as you wan't to play and get to maybe 2420-2450.
      Then work from there with the actual chess.
      If you start working on things like openings without a stable ground, that simply leads to mental stress and little to no to even worse results.

  • @marciocarlos7133
    @marciocarlos7133 Před rokem +1

    The GM title is the friends we made in the path

  • @leomonteiro4612
    @leomonteiro4612 Před 3 měsíci +2

    and now we are here rooting for you to become world champion in 2024

  • @ethan073
    @ethan073 Před 2 lety +6

    I like Levy and if he truly wants GM I hope he achieves it one day. I don’t think Levy will become a GM though, because I don’t think he actually wants it enough. Seems like he was pressured into going for it and thinks he needs to work towards it in an effort to create more content. If you’re heart isn’t in it, you just cannot do what it takes to achieve something that difficult. My bet is that he will quit within a year or two tops, and he’s said on his podcast this would probably take him at least 5 years to achieve.
    My reason for thinking this is that on his podcast he has mentioned feeling like he’s running out of content and also expressed doubt over whether GM even matters to him. And he clearly struggles with a variety of emotions during and after tourneys in a big, big way that is not imo healthy or beneficial to his goal.

  • @BuddyChy
    @BuddyChy Před 2 lety +36

    It’s weird to outright say he won’t. I think that statement requires specifically addressing “because of how he currently plays”. You could also say: IF he wants to become a GM, these are the things he has to change or work on.

    • @arandombard1197
      @arandombard1197 Před rokem +5

      I think he basically does say that. He points out why and obviously if Levi changes then he will get better.

  • @Zero-kb8bf
    @Zero-kb8bf Před rokem +2

    Well, Hikaru's world champ now, so It might happen

  • @johnbahia5340
    @johnbahia5340 Před 2 lety +2

    Back after Levy’s retirement announcement

  • @binnybrieger
    @binnybrieger Před 2 lety +6

    Hikaru also said in that stream that if levy stopped making content and focused on chess he has a good chance at the GM title

  • @dhrUwU69
    @dhrUwU69 Před rokem +10

    Bro is talking and thinking about something else and casually destroying 1000 rated players in bullet ☠️

    • @olal9904
      @olal9904 Před rokem

      thats such a stupid series lol. smurfing is lame as hell

    • @IAmDavid91
      @IAmDavid91 Před rokem

      Levels 😂

    • @rodriguez4809
      @rodriguez4809 Před rokem +1

      i mean yes duh... 1000 rated isnt much... I could do the same thing being just 1800 untitled player.

  • @arravYT
    @arravYT Před 7 měsíci +1

    He is basically Darkshine

  • @SteveDorrans
    @SteveDorrans Před 2 lety +2

    I have to reluctantly agree, after watching Levy's tournament recaps where he talks about tying himself into indecisive knots against higher rated players.

  • @chaseorosco9017
    @chaseorosco9017 Před rokem +6

    My first time playing chess, I lost badly because I didn’t think I could beat this guy. When the light bulb suddenly came on and I realized I can beat this guy, it didn’t mean I won every game, but I play much better.

  • @fardin4243
    @fardin4243 Před měsícem +4

    Maybe hikaru will be wrong

    • @SoulHydron
      @SoulHydron Před měsícem +1

      He believes in Levy now. Levy has improved a lot from the last 2 years it seems like

  • @RareYoutubeHandle
    @RareYoutubeHandle Před rokem

    Bro just checkmated his opponent while talking

  • @deshibasara9150
    @deshibasara9150 Před 6 měsíci +1

    In the words of Rick Flair: “To be the man, you have to beat the man.”

  • @briankemery459
    @briankemery459 Před 2 lety +6

    Big oof especially when most of Levy's own analysis is about him throwing away draw chances to go for winable imbalances.

    • @allanshpeley4284
      @allanshpeley4284 Před 2 lety

      Interesting. So an IM has a better understanding of his games than a Super GM. Not sure that adds up.

    • @briankemery459
      @briankemery459 Před 2 lety

      @@allanshpeley4284 That's not what I meant. When Levy analyzes his own games he's not guessing at his own intents, he's remembering them; and in many of his analyses he specifically mentions having avoided drawish lines he could have gone into.
      I suppose I'm forgetting that Hikaru is specifically talking about Levy's games vs GMs but he's not doing too hot against the IM's either, tbh. Again, I say that based solely on his own road to GM videos. I'm not referencing his records or anything to draw that conclusion so I could have a narrow window.

    • @Telor21
      @Telor21 Před 2 lety

      @@allanshpeley4284 an IM doesn't, but Stockfish does.

  • @escada5218
    @escada5218 Před rokem +3

    Sometimes I don't realize how far away the GMs are from me, like I know I'll never draw with one of them once. But Hikaru is just straight up talking about levy, reading the chat and beating guys of my rating. And it looks like he's not even thinking.

  • @biskitz86913
    @biskitz86913 Před rokem +1

    "Grovelling to make a draw" 💀

  • @riyo.38
    @riyo.38 Před 2 lety +1

    Oh, so this is what Levys recent video is about

  • @MorningNapalm
    @MorningNapalm Před 10 měsíci +3

    I think that Hikaru is accurate about how Levy is playing now, but he is currently split between all the other things he is doing in his life, married, writing a book, running a CZcams channel, etc etc, and playing actual chess. Levy just needs to put everything else on the backburner for 6-12 months and re-dedicate himself to playing the best chess he can, and I think he has a very good chance at making it. The question is if he will ever do this, or if he will die an old man with IM Gotham on his gravestone.

  • @LilSanjae
    @LilSanjae Před rokem +4

    BRO DESTROYING PEOPLE WHILE ROASTING LEVY

    • @Kreamations
      @Kreamations Před rokem

      He’s on a smurf account playing 900s lol

  • @habddz
    @habddz Před rokem +1

    First post after levy became GM.

  • @khalilfuller4939
    @khalilfuller4939 Před rokem

    I noticed Hikaru is playing my infamous Eagles Eye Opening lol very hard to beat

  • @fuecoco_nom_nom
    @fuecoco_nom_nom Před rokem +16

    now, levy is a GM and hikaru is a world champ... how the turn tables

  • @Seankoops
    @Seankoops Před 9 měsíci +4

    Honestly, at this point. Levy has a happy life. he's got: The biggest YT channel in the chess community. Is an IM (already very impressive!) and he has a wife. He knows that too, so i think he's settling more himself towards the life has rather than coming for the GM title

  • @idanroth1197
    @idanroth1197 Před 2 lety +1

    Now take all of that, and say it to levy

  • @Spy_Justy
    @Spy_Justy Před rokem

    Mr. Levy.. um.. there is your.. um.. response? *nervous chuckle

  • @nicholashughes158
    @nicholashughes158 Před 2 lety +6

    Bro rough take, clearly Hikaru is his favorite chess player. Almost like being high level college football quarterback and having your favorite or second favorite nfl qb saying you can’t hack it

    • @CarlitosPR94
      @CarlitosPR94 Před 2 lety

      He said he doesn't think Levy will not that Levy can't or has no chance. He literally started the video saying there is a possibility he can become world champion but realistically he doesn't think he will ever be a world champion. Using that same example on his take about Levy becoming a GM
      I feel like you did not watch the video and just commented because of the title

  • @davidwhite2949
    @davidwhite2949 Před 2 lety +112

    Brutal, but it makes sense.
    I suppose Levi could always change up, and become more aggressive in games against GM’s

    • @freeWizard
      @freeWizard Před 2 lety +11

      Don't spell his name that way, lol. I mean Idc but once I wrote something nice in his twitch stream, he just got mad about nothing else but the way I wrote his name "levi". LOL it was kinda funny to see him angry just because of that but low key I felt like thats the reason why he's never becoming a GM , haha. He just didn't see what I wrote after his name. I had written nice thing about him but there you go, I lost respect for him.

    • @CaoNiMaBi
      @CaoNiMaBi Před 2 lety +2

      @@freeWizard he was probably just joking

    • @freeWizard
      @freeWizard Před 2 lety +6

      @@CaoNiMaBi no really, you should have seen the dudes reaction. He was mad and his mods were all over me for just saying that, lol. Probably they would have banned me if I had replied. I don't know if that's just how they roll, like trolling others no matter what, even if they say genuine things but meh I'm done watching his content

    • @IVANOsijek007
      @IVANOsijek007 Před 2 lety +3

      @@freeWizard i have a feeling that Levi has a b*tchy personality, but he hides it pretty well in public

    • @freeWizard
      @freeWizard Před 2 lety +1

      @@IVANOsijek007 ik right ! but him getting mad when people just spell his name wrong is not hiding anything 😂

  • @bellcipher5791
    @bellcipher5791 Před 2 lety +1

    Eat your heart out Hikaru. Levy just got GM . Can't be hapier

  • @adnancodesweb
    @adnancodesweb Před rokem +1

    HE SACRIFICED THE ROOK!

  • @JUSTREGULARSCREAMINGAAHH
    @JUSTREGULARSCREAMINGAAHH Před měsícem +3

    Who else came back after his second chance?

  • @nevo27
    @nevo27 Před rokem +3

    well he’s a world champion

  • @robertblandford9272
    @robertblandford9272 Před rokem +2

    Bro said the same sentence 37 times in 10 different ways all within 2 minutes

  • @arizona_iced_out_boy
    @arizona_iced_out_boy Před 2 lety +1

    Me, not caring about if Levy becomes a GM or not, just enjoying his tournament analysis videos. Just some good vibes over here.