absolutely disgusting how a councilman has the disrespect to say he disagrees with the fire department on why they need it. Are you a volunteer Councilman Haldeman? For you to argue with men & women that volunteer their own time, and safety to help protect YOUR community, you're arrogant asf. 100% of these firefighters are people in your own community.
The thing he’s not thinking about, is that most firefighters are very influential people. They have the respect of many people in the community, the same ones that VOTE. The councilman should keep that in the back of his mind.
All these people complaining about the fire whistle being loud, obnoxious, and want it silenced will cry "Where is the Fire Dept" or "Is the Fire Department even on their way" if their house is on fire or their loved one is in a MVA. The fire whistle not only alerts the volunteers to come to the station, but also signals the call was received and firefighters are on their way.
@@stephenhanneken3041Yes that is true. My Dad’s old station has that problem. The whistle will blow twice and no one shows up. But I believe most of the time in this town's case that the Volunteers do show up. Like the Chief said in the video, one of his Volunteers was eating breakfast just 2 blocks away, pager never went off, but he heard the whistle and showed up.
And borough/town type fire company, how busy is that Company that these people are complaining about the siren like it was just put into service last week?
Lets see. Langhorne is located in southern Bucks county near Levittown, and is a northern suburb of Philly and adjacent to Trenton, NJ. There are 99 companies in Bucks county, of which most are probably fully or at least partially volunteer. From what I can find, the average number of runs for most surrounding departments is about 400 to 500 runs in a year. At 450 runs divided by 12 months rounded up, that's 38 calls a month on average. Depending on what the county SOP is regarding siren activation and if the department assists the township EMS squad with calls they may or may not sound the siren for EMS runs. If they do, that's 38 times a month that siren goes off on average. Thats about 1 to 3 times a day if calls are consistent, but since they never are you'd probably see a day with no calls followed by a day with 4 or 5. So, they are fairly busy but not nearly enough to were the siren is annoying. But I'm biased after all, I'm a fireman and a volunteer.
Like it was never a nuisance 20 or 50 years ago? Its a Fire Siren, ding a lings, its supposed to be loud! Everyone petitioning to silence it..become Active members!
I was a FF for 25 yrs. There were times I would be outside work in my yard and my pager didn't activate if it wasn't for our station siren I wouldn't have even known we had a call. Just because there all this "new technology" doesn't mean it work any better than the old technology.
Nah worse, they want to get Eurotrash sirens in places like NYC, because they are "quieter and cause residents less stress." Yeah, they also can't be heard until they are on top of you and are obnoxious sounding.
Fire departments have their opinions, but they never let their bias prevent them from helping, that's what makes them so cool, they will always be there to help, no matter how you feel about them.
Oh boohoo, poor people get woken up :< It's an emergency siren, boss. What if you remove a siren from an ambulance? those are loud too, but does that suddenly make it acceptable? Their designed to get your attention. Just because your fancy little doohicky works 90% of the time doesn't mean they all work the same, this siren is loud, efficient, and gets the job done, who cares if it wakes you up, it can save your lives, and it will save other people's lives.
I a member of a fire dept that still use the siren on the roof of our fire station .But it only is used during the day time from 730am to10pm . We have pagers and cell phones . The one reason we still use it so the public know when there is a fire and there will be members responing to the station and also during the summer that if they are using water to shut it off . I agree it doesnt need to be oparting at night.
@@jonathan248 - The city will have 2 different ways to blow the siren - one is the siren blowing a steady tone - the 2nd is to have the siren tone repeatedly rise and fall. One is to summon the volunteer firefighters & the other is for warning of an emergency such as a tornado or enemy attack.
@@jonathan248 The community could put it on paper, make copies for the local schools for the students to take home & share with their parents. The local newspaper, radio stations, cable access TV would also help inform the town's citizens about the siren warning codes.
Oh, you guys don't like the siren? Tough. The people who save your lives rely on it to know when its time to come do exactly that. Sirens like these sound across America every single day, hundreds of times a day, calling thousands of people into action to do one of the most important and noble duties someone can ever strive to do: Saving Lives. Much like the mechanical siren on the front bumper of a fire engine or truck, that siren is a sound of Hope. When it goes off, it lets everyone know, Hey, Help is on the way. On that principle alone it should be embraced, not replaced. On top of that, lets not forget that sirens like that house siren are also used for storm warnings too, like when tornados roll through. If cell service gets knocked out because of a storm and than a tornado forms, that siren can be activated by county emergency services to tell residents to seek shelter. No matter how you slice it, without that siren people die. Leave it be.
Not only that, but if you’re the one calling for help from the FD, when you hear that fire siren, it signals to you that help is on the way. It gives you a sense of comfort and relief, and helps you remain calm. It’s true.
What a bunch of wimps, that siren is a backup to when technology fails. They should be happy they have a fire dept. some communities don’t have one and let’s not forget the men and women who volunteer their time to respond to that whistle when it goes off.
I used to live 50 yards-if that- from a volunteer station and with a house full of people on Thanksgiving I did not hear it. It's not as foolproof as one might think. The fire service is 200+ years of tradition unimpeded by progress. Sirens and horns have been decomissioned in hundreds, perhaps thousands of volunteer communities and I haven't heard any reports of people dying or entire blocks burning to the ground.
you absulutely need that siren, not every body has a phone and also there s no harm in restoring the sth10. please keep the siren and DO NOT decomission it. not only is it useful but the type is becoming rare.
To my honest opinion,; the siren doesn't need to be decommissioned, it's probably the best choice to go to if the power's out and the siren has a battery backup system. I think the people that want to decommission the Siren just because of it's noise need to STFU.
need two ways to alert and sirens were once part of the civil defense system. im sure if the siren was for the complainers, it wouldnt blow long enough or loud enough
Screw these fools! They’re not even willing to pay to staff a fire department yet have the audacity to tell Firefighters that aren’t even being paid what to do? Up yours buddy!
That's all well and fine for in the cities with good coverage. But when you're in a rural area with spotty cell service (still exists in 2023) the fire whistle still wins.
I'm in camp of if you don't like the fire siren, pack up and move. Good Riddance. You are not going to risk the lives of the town safety because you don't like. The siren was there before you moved there. It simply pack crap and move back to where you came from. I love to know that my bother and sisters of service will know when emergency incident requires resources.
Easy increase the water and sewer and property taxes. Lock into a Motorola contract. Bet they'll shut the hell up after the costs of that and wish they had the siren still. What happened where I am.
Being some random lad online that has no association to this community. I can agree it is important to keep but at the same time every time a boomer falls and can’t get up or the bumpers of two cars simply make contact. That doesn’t warrant a air raid siren to go off in the middle of town.
The Chief said a FF was at a luncheonette having breakfast just a few blocks away from the Fire Hall, his pager did NOT go off but he heard the fire whistle. He was the only driver that showed up.
@@FBHSswimmer2006 Exactly. There have been plenty of times where our pager network is down as well. We don't use our siren for fires, but I wouldn't be against changing that.
@@Tigers9596 Maybe you should bring it up. And if people get upset about the thought of it going off in the middle of the night, have it on a timer that prevents it from going off say midnight through 5 am. But still have an override if you know a pager outage is occurring.
absolutely disgusting how a councilman has the disrespect to say he disagrees with the fire department on why they need it. Are you a volunteer Councilman Haldeman? For you to argue with men & women that volunteer their own time, and safety to help protect YOUR community, you're arrogant asf. 100% of these firefighters are people in your own community.
its good
The thing he’s not thinking about, is that most firefighters are very influential people.
They have the respect of many people in the community, the same ones that VOTE.
The councilman should keep that in the back of his mind.
All these people complaining about the fire whistle being loud, obnoxious, and want it silenced will cry "Where is the Fire Dept" or "Is the Fire Department even on their way" if their house is on fire or their loved one is in a MVA. The fire whistle not only alerts the volunteers to come to the station, but also signals the call was received and firefighters are on their way.
The siren tells people that the call has been received. It does not guarantee that anyone will respond or how many will respond.
@@stephenhanneken3041Yes that is true. My Dad’s old station has that problem. The whistle will blow twice and no one shows up.
But I believe most of the time in this town's case that the Volunteers do show up. Like the Chief said in the video, one of his Volunteers was eating breakfast just 2 blocks away, pager never went off, but he heard the whistle and showed up.
What a bunch of selfish people
make it louder
Word up. And higher mounted for more coverage
And add more of the upgraded version. Because L to these selfish idiots
And borough/town type fire company, how busy is that Company that these people are complaining about the siren like it was just put into service last week?
Lets see. Langhorne is located in southern Bucks county near Levittown, and is a northern suburb of Philly and adjacent to Trenton, NJ. There are 99 companies in Bucks county, of which most are probably fully or at least partially volunteer. From what I can find, the average number of runs for most surrounding departments is about 400 to 500 runs in a year. At 450 runs divided by 12 months rounded up, that's 38 calls a month on average. Depending on what the county SOP is regarding siren activation and if the department assists the township EMS squad with calls they may or may not sound the siren for EMS runs. If they do, that's 38 times a month that siren goes off on average. Thats about 1 to 3 times a day if calls are consistent, but since they never are you'd probably see a day with no calls followed by a day with 4 or 5. So, they are fairly busy but not nearly enough to were the siren is annoying. But I'm biased after all, I'm a fireman and a volunteer.
Of all the things to argue over......SMH
Like it was never a nuisance 20 or 50 years ago? Its a Fire Siren, ding a lings, its supposed to be loud!
Everyone petitioning to silence it..become Active members!
I was a FF for 25 yrs. There were times I would be outside work in my yard and my pager didn't activate if it wasn't for our station siren I wouldn't have even known we had a call. Just because there all this "new technology" doesn't mean it work any better than the old technology.
sirens at fire stations are very important ... these need to stay...what is next ?..no sirens on emergency vehicles......
Nah worse, they want to get Eurotrash sirens in places like NYC, because they are "quieter and cause residents less stress." Yeah, they also can't be heard until they are on top of you and are obnoxious sounding.
@@Stargazzer811ATI sirens also fail constantly they are the shittiest siren company in the world
The people that dont want the sirens the fire dept should not respond to those people that dont want it.
Fire departments have their opinions, but they never let their bias prevent them from helping, that's what makes them so cool, they will always be there to help, no matter how you feel about them.
@@TimeWisely some do so u dont have any idea what you are talking about
@@wolfpacva ... wow, okay, you're quite a rude one aren't you? maybe you should look in the mirror going forward.
You don't like it Moveeee
Oh boohoo, poor people get woken up :< It's an emergency siren, boss. What if you remove a siren from an ambulance? those are loud too, but does that suddenly make it acceptable? Their designed to get your attention. Just because your fancy little doohicky works 90% of the time doesn't mean they all work the same, this siren is loud, efficient, and gets the job done, who cares if it wakes you up, it can save your lives, and it will save other people's lives.
I a member of a fire dept that still use the siren on the roof of our fire station .But it only is used during the day time from 730am to10pm . We have pagers and cell phones . The one reason we still use it so the public know when there is a fire and there will be members responing to the station and also during the summer that if they are using water to shut it off . I agree it doesnt need to be oparting at night.
uhhh im gonna say keep it, it looks in good condition
Bothered by a siren I love old siren especially ww2 air raid sirens
People need realize siren let's them coming help them get life dude
Is the siren also used to warn of severe weather?
Maybe
I'd imagine not. If that's the case then firefighters would be responding to the station for severe weather but no emergency.
@@jonathan248 - The city will have 2 different ways to blow the siren - one is the siren blowing a steady tone - the 2nd is to have the siren tone repeatedly rise and fall. One is to summon the volunteer firefighters & the other is for warning of an emergency such as a tornado or enemy attack.
@@Petemonster62 That would make sense, but wouldn't it be difficult to educate the public on all of these variations?
@@jonathan248 The community could put it on paper, make copies for the local schools for the students to take home & share with their parents. The local newspaper, radio stations, cable access TV would also help inform the town's citizens about the siren warning codes.
new generation of Americans always have something to cry about 😭
you know the complaints were from boomer NIMBYS
New generation? Everyone complaining is a boomer or older.
How true. Very fragile.
Like the ones who move next to an airport, then complain
@@24YOAthe complaints are coming from democrats
RIP FS&S STH-10
Oh, you guys don't like the siren? Tough. The people who save your lives rely on it to know when its time to come do exactly that. Sirens like these sound across America every single day, hundreds of times a day, calling thousands of people into action to do one of the most important and noble duties someone can ever strive to do: Saving Lives. Much like the mechanical siren on the front bumper of a fire engine or truck, that siren is a sound of Hope. When it goes off, it lets everyone know, Hey, Help is on the way. On that principle alone it should be embraced, not replaced.
On top of that, lets not forget that sirens like that house siren are also used for storm warnings too, like when tornados roll through. If cell service gets knocked out because of a storm and than a tornado forms, that siren can be activated by county emergency services to tell residents to seek shelter. No matter how you slice it, without that siren people die. Leave it be.
What's next- No sirens on Fire Equipment.😊
Not only that, but if you’re the one calling for help from the FD, when you hear that fire siren, it signals to you that help is on the way. It gives you a sense of comfort and relief, and helps you remain calm. It’s true.
@@Keaton0801 Much in the same way mechanical sirens do. I'm biased, being that I'm in the fire service, but I do love me some Q2B.
"does it have to be so loud?" 🤣
Keep it. Problem is them people moved there knowing it was there.
Replace the mechanical siren with an electronic one, and use the diaphone tone instead of the wail.
Fuck no the volunteers that are in pager dead zones won't be able to hear an electronic siren they only cover a quarter mile area
What a bunch of wimps, that siren is a backup to when technology fails. They should be happy they have a fire dept. some communities don’t have one and let’s not forget the men and women who volunteer their time to respond to that whistle when it goes off.
I used to live 50 yards-if that- from a volunteer station and with a house full of people on Thanksgiving I did not hear it. It's not as foolproof as one might think.
The fire service is 200+ years of tradition unimpeded by progress. Sirens and horns have been decomissioned in hundreds, perhaps thousands of volunteer communities and I haven't heard any reports of people dying or entire blocks burning to the ground.
you absulutely need that siren, not every body has a phone and also there s no harm in restoring the sth10. please keep the siren and DO NOT decomission it. not only is it useful but the type is becoming rare.
To my honest opinion,; the siren doesn't need to be decommissioned, it's probably the best choice to go to if the power's out and the siren has a battery backup system. I think the people that want to decommission the Siren just because of it's noise need to STFU.
need two ways to alert and sirens were once part of the civil defense system. im sure if the siren was for the complainers, it wouldnt blow long enough or loud enough
If you’re bothered with the siren, then you must be bothered with first responders, so just won’t come next time
Screw these fools! They’re not even willing to pay to staff a fire department yet have the audacity to tell Firefighters that aren’t even being paid what to do? Up yours buddy!
It was there probably before them
I can understand if the siren is turned over between 2100 and 0700 hours.
Chester County and Philadelphia County do not use this. Cell signals are mostly efficient. Fate decrees all.
That's all well and fine for in the cities with good coverage. But when you're in a rural area with spotty cell service (still exists in 2023) the fire whistle still wins.
It's high time that those communities bring back the fire station sirens!!!!!
Philadelphia county hasn’t had a volunteer fire company in it since 1871
Actually Goshen fire company uses a siren
I'm in camp of if you don't like the fire siren, pack up and move. Good Riddance. You are not going to risk the lives of the town safety because you don't like. The siren was there before you moved there. It simply pack crap and move back to where you came from. I love to know that my bother and sisters of service will know when emergency incident requires resources.
The siren has been there before a lot of the people were. If they don't like it move.
Just Leave The Siren Alone !! The Siren Is A Vital Safety Alert System .
I say when they go by the counclemans house everyone hits all the sirens federal q and airborne at the same time
Airhorn
Easy increase the water and sewer and property taxes. Lock into a Motorola contract. Bet they'll shut the hell up after the costs of that and wish they had the siren still. What happened where I am.
Necessary
Having a siren is smart,what happens in a diaster and there is no cell phones working>
Time for the snowflakes to move away if they don’t like the siren!
Sad thing alarm system does fail. K find whn u don’t get a firefighter to ur emergency don’t cry .
Put a ACA P-50 siren
Video i csnt believe exists
Poor Karen
Being some random lad online that has no association to this community.
I can agree it is important to keep but at the same time every time a boomer falls and can’t get up or the bumpers of two cars simply make contact. That doesn’t warrant a air raid siren to go off in the middle of town.
It doesn’t randomly go off for minor incidents so your concern is unwarranted. Only major accidents or fires requiring a large volunteer turnout.
Leave the siren you losers! Otherwise I suggest you help out at a call
guddd
"When my pager goes off" EXACTLY!!!! it's 2023 there is no need for sirens anymore, even the Amish volunteers I know in Lancaster county use pagers.
Sirens are and will always be an effective back up system.
Clearly you didn't watch the full segment lol
The Chief said a FF was at a luncheonette having breakfast just a few blocks away from the Fire Hall, his pager did NOT go off but he heard the fire whistle. He was the only driver that showed up.
@@FBHSswimmer2006 Exactly. There have been plenty of times where our pager network is down as well. We don't use our siren for fires, but I wouldn't be against changing that.
@@Tigers9596 Maybe you should bring it up. And if people get upset about the thought of it going off in the middle of the night, have it on a timer that prevents it from going off say midnight through 5 am. But still have an override if you know a pager outage is occurring.