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  • @chrisjbell
    @chrisjbell Před 6 lety +395

    Lot of respect for Mike here, the interviewer clearly wanted to throw Morrissey under a bus and Mike resisted it.

    • @sietepesos5535
      @sietepesos5535 Před 5 lety +37

      Totally agree. Mike Joyce is not only a legend but also handles this stupid ambush brilliantly and with a calm and distance that is admirable.

    • @emartinezr
      @emartinezr Před 5 lety +20

      Agree. So much crap coming from that interviewer...

    • @carloslima6705
      @carloslima6705 Před 5 lety +13

      A double-decker bus?

    • @jrkk6829
      @jrkk6829 Před 3 lety +20

      Even after the high court and the things that happened between them, morrissey saying I wish the absolute worst for mike Joyce for the rest of his life, he is the good man he is by protecting him and defending him. He knows the interviewer is a ignorant joke! What a waste of time, I don’t think people realize how good Andy and mike were? What a great band❤️

    • @alishalegrand6139
      @alishalegrand6139 Před 3 lety +3

      Poor poor Marissy he got thrown under the bus so sad

  • @thomas3803
    @thomas3803 Před 5 lety +240

    Morrissey may hate his guts, but Mike Joyce was definitely looking out for him here.

    • @davidparker9676
      @davidparker9676 Před rokem +3

      I hope Morrissey lets go of his animosity and gives his fans a reunion with the old band. Morrissey was always a problem for the band, causing drama and extra expenses. Some people never change.
      I am glad to see Mike Joyce taking the high-road on this awful interviewer's attacks and traps.

    • @bluemcdaniel99
      @bluemcdaniel99 Před měsícem +1

      @@davidparker9676Rip Andy

    • @davidparker9676
      @davidparker9676 Před měsícem

      @@bluemcdaniel99 Yes, RIP Andy.
      Such an underrated talent.
      He always seemed like the coolest and most level-headed member of the band.

  • @harryharr74
    @harryharr74 Před 4 lety +93

    I met Mike Joyce in 2006 and during our conversation he never said a bad word about Morrissey and even admitted to me that he would jump at the chance of a Smiths reunion . He knows as we all do that will never happen .

    • @deltaflyer9078
      @deltaflyer9078 Před 3 lety +9

      That’s amazing. Must have been amazing.

    • @matthewfbridges
      @matthewfbridges Před rokem +1

      honestly, if Morrissey still objects, i think a band consisting of Rourke, Joyce, Jesus Christ (known otherwise as Johnny Marr) and Jarvis Cocker of Pulp.

    • @davidparker9676
      @davidparker9676 Před rokem +1

      @@matthewfbridges Just make an AI Morrissey hologram perform on tour.
      Morrissey will not make his true fans happy with a reunion.

  • @69crafty
    @69crafty Před 6 lety +241

    You can tell Joyce isn't impressed by the end here and rightfully so. He came on to get interviewed, not to play a silly game of wether Morrissey is a rascist or not. I felt really bad for him because he seems like a throughly nice chap.

    • @sexobscura
      @sexobscura Před 3 lety +5

      as they say: 'nice guys finish as tv fodder'

    • @v-town1980
      @v-town1980 Před 3 lety +10

      Me too. This so-called interview couldn't end soon enough for me. Mike felt that 2 mins. in.

    • @elizabethbennet4791
      @elizabethbennet4791 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I KR!!!!

  • @mrjoew8
    @mrjoew8 Před 6 lety +78

    This was actually uncomfortable to watch, and you could tell towards the end Mike Joyce really wasn't impressed. They deliberately took quotes out of context and was expecting mike to bitch on Morrissey but he wasn't biting.

  • @bman23Q
    @bman23Q Před 6 lety +156

    Good on Mike for not sticking the knife into Morrissey, More class that way.

    • @bman23Q
      @bman23Q Před 6 lety +3

      mistersurrealist I’m talking about in this interview.

  • @kirabarsmith9353
    @kirabarsmith9353 Před 6 lety +111

    Mike stood up for Morrissey repeatedly, despite their difficult past, seems like a very decent guy. And Morrissey just doesn't want to see the beautiful things in British culture discarded, nor the lives of animals, all the controversy is contrived.

  • @moz763
    @moz763 Před 4 lety +34

    You are awesome Mike for standing your ground,I hope Moz sees this and thanks you for having his back.

    • @davidparker9676
      @davidparker9676 Před rokem +1

      Moz did see it, he posted a comment I am responding to right now.
      Morrissey will not let go of his petty anger and grudge against the Smiths band members.

  • @alexwells5400
    @alexwells5400 Před 4 lety +50

    This may be the worst interview I have ever witnessed. The blatant attempts to label Morrissey a racist by taking his words out of context are appalling and another case of the media being the media. Even though Mike and Moz may not be on the same team anymore it is admirable that Mike shuts down the petty attempts to cause controversy by this fickle-minded interviewer.

  • @dazauto1400
    @dazauto1400 Před 3 lety +53

    Poor Mike. This is ghastly. He should have just walked out live on air. Car crash stuff. Mike is such a kind man. Probably the worst interview I've ever seen in my life.

    • @davidparker9676
      @davidparker9676 Před rokem

      The host is absolutely one of the worst pieces of garbage to be graced by someone classy as Mike Joyce.
      I hope Mike researches the shows he agrees to appear on in the future. This was an absolute hit-piece on Morrissey and in no way benefited Joyce in any possible way. Mike Joyce did a great job avoiding all of the traps and smears.

    • @declancullen9750
      @declancullen9750 Před 2 měsíci

      Couldn’t agree more it was awful

  • @roy-cyber
    @roy-cyber Před 6 lety +46

    Big respect for Joyce, top quality lad.

  • @Paneeks1960
    @Paneeks1960 Před 6 lety +87

    One of the worst interviewers I have ever seen. Way to stand your ground Mike~

  • @lordoftranceaa
    @lordoftranceaa Před 6 lety +61

    Poor quality show, unbelievable. To read quotes without any context is not fair. If we do this exercise to ourselves, then probably we are all racists (which is not true)

    • @jessewaughcom
      @jessewaughcom Před 6 lety +6

      Andrés Auquilla That’s what I thought - THIS is journalism??

  • @alannah.millington1085
    @alannah.millington1085 Před 3 lety +50

    From watching this I've gained so much respect for Mike. He stayed true to what he thought and made points that clearly need to be made.

  • @dominicthompson7612
    @dominicthompson7612 Před 6 lety +73

    kind of feel bad for mike on this one. hes clearly not got the best relationship with morrissey and is then brought out to talk to him for 7 minutes...cant help but feel the lyrics 'why do i smile at people who dont care if i live or die' were running through his head during this interview

    • @jointhe6461
      @jointhe6461 Před 6 lety +13

      Not only did Mike refuse to follow the Morrissey-is-racist script; he also didn't take the bait about the Smiths vs. Morrissey thing. He said that he's biased toward the Smiths because he was in it, and proceeded to praise Morrissey's role as Smiths frontman.

  • @VeesFunkyAZZshop
    @VeesFunkyAZZshop Před 6 lety +37

    this why Morrissey does not do much interviews.....most people who work for the media seem to always be such pricks!

  • @kate9576
    @kate9576 Před 6 lety +45

    Mike Joyce is a class act. Just amended this text to say I hit the thumbs down button for how bad this interview was.

  • @sophieround1147
    @sophieround1147 Před 4 lety +25

    The level of second hand embarrassment I had whilst watching this is appalling

  • @nyc4233
    @nyc4233 Před 6 lety +30

    What a pathetic segment! Mike was being a class act about it!

  • @colinmclean9460
    @colinmclean9460 Před 5 lety +23

    Fair play to Mike Joyce, the interviewer and his laughing hyenas are deplorable here.

  • @schlongersaurus
    @schlongersaurus Před 6 lety +20

    Mike wasn't even finished talking when he interrupted him

  • @keithsmith8331
    @keithsmith8331 Před 6 lety +74

    Mike has a lot of class, this was a total hit job on Morrissey and he wasn't going to have any part of it.
    PC Culture would have never liked The Smith's.

  • @SoraKoshinaka
    @SoraKoshinaka Před 5 lety +13

    So he was invited to talk about Morrisey? Respect Mike Joyce.
    Mike is a GENIUS for resisted from that stupid interviewer.

  • @clintt5266
    @clintt5266 Před 6 lety +19

    Sam Delaney should be ashamed for lowering our collective vibration. I'd love to hear Mike talk about interesting things, not this dreck.

  • @moz0207
    @moz0207 Před 6 lety +18

    Top fella Mike.

  • @hoisin75
    @hoisin75 Před 6 lety +23

    A total ambush video on poor Mike Joyce. Sam Delaney has always been second rate - hence a show I’d never heard of before this click bait nonsense was featured on NME (equally worthless)

  • @antonyrichard1578
    @antonyrichard1578 Před 2 lety +7

    Moz ain't racist

  • @rogelioserratos8526
    @rogelioserratos8526 Před 6 lety +15

    At the end Mike was blushing with embarrassment. All those people on that show are nerds taking revenge on people who did something worthwhile of their lives. Cringe.

  • @martinmcnulty8155
    @martinmcnulty8155 Před 2 lety +6

    After all that happened between the two you can still feel loyalty and respect from Mike Joyce. Who would have thought?

  • @wunderdoggy
    @wunderdoggy Před 6 lety +42

    Haha Mike looks so unimpressed after that musical interlude imitation.

  • @JamesCraigWhoop
    @JamesCraigWhoop Před 2 lety +5

    Kudos to Mike. Defending Morrissey isnt even something he himself likes to do. Mike seems all around pleasant.

  • @williamdunseath5670
    @williamdunseath5670 Před 3 lety +7

    Mike up on my estimations here.. not that i know too much about the court case. But evident here he's sticking up for Morrissey. The interviewer.. well.. enough said..

  • @sabrinamichelena1920
    @sabrinamichelena1920 Před 3 lety +20

    Honestly I respect Mike for not throwing Morrissey under the bus. It was obvious he was uncomfortable-and what was the interviewer even thinking playing a game like that? Although Morrissey and Mike don’t get along anymore, Mike has only mentioned Morrissey’s positive qualities and refused to bash him for the way he behaves now.

  • @Robskit6
    @Robskit6 Před 4 lety +7

    Go on Mike. Respect.

  • @rideshareguy5.0ridesharead46

    Good job handling those questions. The interviewer was throwing quotes out of context and Mike handled him with class.

  • @christinaaspen3800
    @christinaaspen3800 Před 4 lety +6

    This interview was lame? So lame. Not even an interview tbh.

  • @oyemate8647
    @oyemate8647 Před 3 lety +10

    wow I have so much respect for him after seeing this. Morrissey can be a dick and although Mike had so many reasons to be rude about him, he behaved like a gentleman. Just wow-

  • @Gladiator0719
    @Gladiator0719 Před 3 lety +4

    They were like brothers, only brothers are allowed to stick it to each other. Outsiders aren't allowed to do that. Family only...The Smiths

  • @thisnorthernsoul7466
    @thisnorthernsoul7466 Před 3 lety +7

    What an awful interview! Mike deserves better

  • @jamesblaser5329
    @jamesblaser5329 Před 4 lety +9

    Well done Mike I love the smiths

  • @michellethomas563
    @michellethomas563 Před 3 lety +4

    And… this is the reason why people ignorantly claim Morrissey is a racist. Because of people like this interviewer.

  • @madting8082
    @madting8082 Před 5 lety +8

    Mike is so classy

  • @kegsmelv117
    @kegsmelv117 Před 3 lety +5

    Mike is fantastic here.

  • @dukeon
    @dukeon Před 2 lety +4

    Mike’s a quality bloke, no doubt about it

  • @arrigo3523
    @arrigo3523 Před 2 lety +3

    better hide this man from that woman💀

  • @danielzieba
    @danielzieba Před 6 lety +9

    the interviewer has stains on his shirt

  • @digthemusicman483
    @digthemusicman483 Před 3 lety +3

    If you have Mike fucking Joyce on the show, ask MIKE JOYCE questions, about MIKE JOYCE, not Morrissey. Upsetting

  • @mrjoew8
    @mrjoew8 Před rokem +2

    Mike's reaction at 4:40 pretty much sums up this entire interview!

  • @stevebell9645
    @stevebell9645 Před 2 lety +3

    What a Spud.
    Mike should have walked.
    Moz is not racist!

  • @gregmacrdechian6564
    @gregmacrdechian6564 Před 3 lety +4

    There aren't enough expletives to say about the host! he's not fit enough to wipe Mike Joyce's backside

  • @alfie9718
    @alfie9718 Před 2 lety +3

    Mike is an absolute professional. Shame about the rest of this lot.

  • @theboywithathorninhisside.4179

    If anyone actually understands what HALAL meat means. It's the THROAT being Slashed during its Slaughter. . So lm completely with Morrissey on that. NO Animal should suffer for the Meat on a Plate.. Plus its actually strange to me that Mike still didn't understand the Flower reference Morrissey used during Smiths Concerts. After some research l understand it to be Morrisseys Passive Aggressive response and Support for the Nuclear anti War moment that was around at the Time.

  • @MeadowlakeSt
    @MeadowlakeSt Před 6 lety +31

    I've just fallen in love with Mike Joyce.

  • @cricketbat09
    @cricketbat09 Před rokem +2

    The Smiths' 'iconography' reflected the world in which the band grew up. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • @TheCookcoos
    @TheCookcoos Před 6 lety +4

    Gutter media/journalism at its finest. Could tell that Mike wasn't impressed.

  • @jimmynebula
    @jimmynebula Před rokem +2

    He really has no reason to hate Morrissey, he owes everything to Morrissey and Marr. Lets not forget, he won the case. If he lost do you think he’d be so nice? But he’s clearly a good dude who had his old friends back.

  • @bradroberts4202
    @bradroberts4202 Před rokem +2

    Mike Joyce and Andy Rourke. Without them, there would have been no Smiths! 😀👍

  • @sonanderson6351
    @sonanderson6351 Před 10 měsíci +1

    He’s never said a bad word against Morrissey In any interview

  • @luisllorens70
    @luisllorens70 Před 3 lety +2

    Someone should tell them that the whole "halal" and "isis" comments were a joke.

  • @Reversibleband
    @Reversibleband Před 2 lety +1

    The most valid point here was when Mr. Joyce said that Moz yearns for an England of 40+ years ago. His music has always been indicative of a lost era, it’s part of their charm. “You’re the bees’ knees”, “stay on my arm, you little charmer”, etc.

  • @wroot1
    @wroot1 Před 4 lety +4

    Morrissey is the hero I needed as a teenager and now as a thirty year old. He's brilliant. This clip is bullshit

  • @Hoops590
    @Hoops590 Před 2 lety +3

    why do they keep bringing up hitler - these leftists are crazy

  • @simonball2855
    @simonball2855 Před 3 lety +3

    What a shame Sam Delaney exhists.

  • @brianpineda3505
    @brianpineda3505 Před 3 lety +3

    i wish all the people involved in this interview the very worse in life

  • @shaggydog9789
    @shaggydog9789 Před 2 lety +2

    I've never seen or heard of this guy Sam Delaney before, but my word that was an absolute car wreck of an interview. Fair play to Mike for conducting himself in a very dignified and fair way, that host was embarassing to watch.

  • @quite.unloveable
    @quite.unloveable Před rokem +2

    i’m to meet mike joyce this month, and god how happy i was to see this interview and realise what a nice bloke he is. he coped with these morons on one of the dumbest interviews ever made, and defended the man media point out to be his “enemy”. that’s a virtue!

  • @FREEDOM-23
    @FREEDOM-23 Před 4 lety +3

    If you don't like islam ☪ is not racism, is religion bigotry, get your hate straight, religion is not race.

  • @GreasyBelcher
    @GreasyBelcher Před 2 lety +2

    Correction. It’s not the first time some talentless nobody has recycled this nothing story.

  • @craigstobie1205
    @craigstobie1205 Před 6 lety +3

    exactly what most people commenting have said... a shite show attempting to put Moz under the bus

  • @billhosono7468
    @billhosono7468 Před rokem +1

    Mike Joyce is such a great guy.

  • @TOMsideways-nt6tx
    @TOMsideways-nt6tx Před 4 lety +2

    Im from united states everyone here is racist.dont let media fool u we all love our own.

  • @pern1044
    @pern1044 Před 2 lety +2

    Bad, underhanded mean interviewer.

  • @animalblack8482
    @animalblack8482 Před 6 lety +3

    Nice, interesting man. Perfect drummer for Marrs orchestrations. Very violated by Morrissey's clandestine business dealings regarding Smiths payouts.

  • @Crinkle65
    @Crinkle65 Před 5 měsíci

    Joyce seems to be a really good guy. And what a drummer !

  • @poppycock31185
    @poppycock31185 Před 3 lety +6

    That Sam Delaney guy is grotesque. I don't think I have ever seen him on tv without thinking "what a prick".

  • @Coppertunes
    @Coppertunes Před 2 lety +2

    Horrific interview... Morrissey was asked about the Chinese subculture of still caging and eating cats & dogs. He stated his views on it, which would have been the same views as any rational Westerner. He also stated a fact about the Cockney accent disappearing. If he was to call the Yemeni or Saudis barbaric for chopping peoples heads off, would that also make him racist.
    But youre not allowed facts in today's world. Individuals feelings come first.

  • @daveytrouble1232
    @daveytrouble1232 Před 4 lety +8

    Sam Delaney: "he should of judged his wording maybe better".. Me: "you shouldn't be deliberately reading him out of context you hack".

    • @oyemate8647
      @oyemate8647 Před 3 lety +1

      both are true tho Moz talks in a way that leaves too much room for interpretation

    • @anneominous7172
      @anneominous7172 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@oyemate8647 Perhaps he doesn't care how agenda-driven idiots interpret him, eh. Perhaps he just says what he thinks - and perhaps that's how people should be. Incidentally it's how people WERE, not too long back, before it became so trendy to dogpile people and score points for counting racists - as though for each one you name you get a prize. We're living in thoroughly ridiculous times. Moz knows that and he doesn't give a shit, because he simply doesn't care about the opinions of idiots who can't think with a single grain of nuance. Neither should you, neither should I.

  • @waynepinnock5874
    @waynepinnock5874 Před 4 lety +2

    Mike has morphed into another human being

  • @timhorpo
    @timhorpo Před 2 lety

    Well spoken

  • @jlouis4407
    @jlouis4407 Před 2 lety +1

    Damn the ear lobes! 👂

  • @spootnik00
    @spootnik00 Před 5 lety +2

    5:52 isn't the sky supposed to be painted blue and fields green?

  • @CruceEntertainment
    @CruceEntertainment Před 7 měsíci +1

    Who is allowed to label anyone a racist anyway? And is there a degree of racist? Like sorta racist? Racist? Very racist? Not very racist at all? Very very very racist???

  • @matthewtracey5829
    @matthewtracey5829 Před 3 lety +3

    Good form mike Joyce. He may be a prick but he is our prick. The host tried so hard but he should learn to never get involved in other peoples domestics.

  • @arianrhodhyde7482
    @arianrhodhyde7482 Před 6 lety

    i think the theme tune for that game was "money changes everything"...too bloody right

  • @kcl6099
    @kcl6099 Před 5 lety +1

    Joyce looks now like (Northern Pop Legend) Johnny Shuttleworth !
    ('Ah'm oop and down like a Bride's nightie . . . ')

  • @napsam71
    @napsam71 Před 6 měsíci

    This last bit is absolutely disgraceful. Really shows you the game they're playing.

  • @kierannicholson5215
    @kierannicholson5215 Před 5 lety +3

    The worst interview I have ever witnessed

  • @brokensilence6790
    @brokensilence6790 Před rokem +2

    Virtue signaller gotta signal.

  • @lfcforever1482
    @lfcforever1482 Před rokem +1

    god this was so awfully cringe to watch. the host definitely thought mike was going to go on a rant agreeing with him about how morrissey is racist & that’s why they had planned the quiz at the end. as soon as they heard what he had to say they should’ve just scrapped the quiz. mike has just expressed that he doesn’t believe morrissey to be a racist & yet immediately you go into a quiz of “which racist quote is morrissey’s”… how awkward and embarrassing

  • @magnusjensson8199
    @magnusjensson8199 Před 9 měsíci

    I think there is more differance from the Smiths and Morriseys solo carrier, -for me it is the song writing - and the differance is big.

  • @joceliarthurbauermann4147
    @joceliarthurbauermann4147 Před 9 měsíci

    Uau!Thanks,channel.

  • @gerryrr93
    @gerryrr93 Před rokem +1

    Poor interview, he's better than this did well not to get more annoyed

  • @if3054
    @if3054 Před 5 lety +3

    Sam Delaney, a voice for radio if ever I'd seen one. Looks like Green Gilbert.

    • @johnarundell7951
      @johnarundell7951 Před 4 lety +1

      A face for radio don't you mean?

    • @if3054
      @if3054 Před 4 lety

      @@johnarundell7951 no.

    • @johnarundell7951
      @johnarundell7951 Před 4 lety

      @@if3054 So you can 'see' his voice and think it would be better suited to radio? OK that makes sense ..
      BBC Learning English - The English We Speak / A face for radio www.bbc.co.uk › learningenglish › features - A useful expression for indirectly saying that someone is ugly.

    • @johnarundell7951
      @johnarundell7951 Před 4 lety

      @@if3054
      face for radio - Wiktionaryen.wiktionary.org › wiki › face_for_radio
      (colloquial, derogatory, humorous) An ugly face.

    • @if3054
      @if3054 Před 4 lety

      @@johnarundell7951 6am and you're looking up definitions on Wikipedia. You seem like an exciting guy.

  • @hazel-mv7iz
    @hazel-mv7iz Před 6 měsíci +2

    Wow. That section at the end. Could you be any more desperate for a bit of woke controversy?

  • @mmmanutd
    @mmmanutd Před 3 lety +1

    4:00 It was at this the moment that he knew, he fucked up

  • @jamesjackson-df1hi
    @jamesjackson-df1hi Před 3 lety

    IF HE IS OR HE ISN'T, I THOUGHT IT WAS THE MUSIC THAT WAS THE IMPORTANT FACTOR IN HIS CAREER, AND YOU CERTAINLY CANNOT FAULT HIM ON THAT FRONT.

  • @TheAwesomeGingerGuy
    @TheAwesomeGingerGuy Před 3 lety +3

    don't be a prat to a nice man like mike joyce. i hope the channel has apologised for this rubbish. mike hasn't had much to do with morrissey since the smiths ended, so you may as well be asking "is my brother's girlfriend's cousin's step-son a racist?". waste of time. if i had 6 minutes with mike joyce i'd love to talk about something more relevant like, i don't know, music?

  • @13strange67
    @13strange67 Před rokem

    Starting to looking like Stan Ogden of Coronation Street 1970s

  • @jointhe6461
    @jointhe6461 Před 6 lety +1

    No pleading and squealing here.

  • @ctmpodcast6901
    @ctmpodcast6901 Před rokem +2

    This has to be the most unbelievably ameuterish, fumblingly incompetent "interview" I've had the displeasure of watching.