"Bing Crosby, the Sunset Highway and the Channeled Scablands"
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- CWU's Nick Zentner presents 'Bing Crosby, the Sunset Highway, and the Channeled Scablands' - the 15th talk in his ongoing Downtown Geology Lecture Series. Recorded at Hal Holmes Center on February 24, 2016 in Ellensburg, Washington, USA. www.nickzentner.com
I would love to see an hour or two-hour TV special of Nick and Wes (the local historian) retracing the journey. Wes talking human history, Nick talking geological history as they go along. If interwoven well, I think it would be an amazing standalone feature. ❤
The Collaboration and connections that Nick is making with our history and the geology in his shows is so incredible!!!! I won't be surprised if his name ends up in history... uh, books.... as a legendary Chronicler as well as being a brilliant educator and geologist.
Hi Nick, I am 70 years old and discovered your CZcams lectures a few weeks ago and I’ve been watching one a day ever since. When I was in college back in the late 60s I took a Geology course. It was horrible. I hated it and dropped out. I only wish the people back then could have been as exciting as you. Who knows, I might have really gotten into geology. Your lectures are great. Rob McCrain
Really nice comments, Rob. Thanks much. Glad that you are enjoying these. Four new ones were posted recently. The next batch will be in 2019.
Hi Nick. I live in the UK in North Devon (a place called Barnstaple). I absolutely LOVE your lectures. I have watched all I could possibly find, even you singing at a fund-raiser (sorry!). Now I would like you to come to North Devon so I can find out more about our local geology ha ha. I can't believe you haven't been snapped up to make some modern-day National Geographic or BBC documentaries. I have never had any interest at all in Geology over the last 52 years, but now can't get enough, because of your excellent teaching skills.
Similar story for me. The earth is fascinating everywhere and at 69 I love learning about it. This teacher maintains his enthusiasm no matter how many times he has been over the same subject, and he really knows how to connect with his students.
Washington's geological past is action packed!!. Far more intense than most people could even imagine. Without following this channel, I would be one of those unfortunate people as well.👍😎
Hi Nick! We just tried to do the Bing Crosby route....and oh boy, we were way off and afraid we would get stuck somewhere~Ha! We did as much as we could and then headed to Spokane to the old house, which is across from Bing's.
For the kids, tell them that in the video game series "Fallout", Bing sang the songs "Pistol Packing Mama", "Accentuate the Positive", and "Don't Fence Me In". And his younger brother Bob was also a singer, and contributed songs to the games.
And the cereal mascot "Sugar Bear"'s voice was based on Bing.
As a kid who grew up in Renton I remember my Grandpa telling a few stories about driving the Sunset Highway to Eastern Washington in his Model T. I was born in 1950 and I remember us driving to Spokane before Interstate 90, so we drove the Sunset Highway back in the late 1950s in Dad's 1949 Ford. I love the Bing Crosby and geology mix. I hung out a few summers at Gonzaga in the late 1970s at the music department. I grew up in Earlington, West Renton, just below the Sunset Highway (SR 900). This was a wonderful conversation, Nick. Thanks!
I can't stop watching these videos. I live in Arizona.
Beat the heat! Thanks much.
I am in Australia and I love these videos.
Born in Seattle, raised in Spokane, crossed the state many many times so I know the places you speak of and the superficial changes that have taken place. The geologic history and your presentation adds depth and meaning to what I have seen. Recorded history is a blink of the eye when compared to the patient deliberate cycles of the earth. Thanks.
Your story of Bing's trip to Hollywood reminds me of his efforts to avoid moving to New York. In the late 1940's, near the peak of his popularity, he was offered a weekly live radio show but live shows had to be performed in New York because of time zones and network cable feeds. Bing didn't want to leave the west coast and he ended up being one of the first investors in Ampex, the company which produced the first high quality tape recorders so he could record them on the west coast and send the tapes to New York instead of himself. In that way he helped found the tape recording industry.
Thanks so much! He was born in Tacoma, where I live. Good old Hollywood. Really enjoy learning about the geology!
Der Bingel had a home near us on Hayden Lake. He had a Chris Craft inboard.... one of the few on the lake at that time. When we heard him coming, we would run down to the dock so we could wave at him.
Nick my Dad of the era when cars a new thing a.d they did drive all the way up west coast lots of roads still dirt . Really enjoyed the history and geology and always liked Bing . Thanks
Nick, finally something I know and can share with you!
Model T Fords had their fuel tank under the front seat from 1909-1925 (when Bing and Al drove in a 1918 touring car). The fuel flowed down a couple of inches lower to the carburetor by gravity alone. The carburetor was about 2 feet ahead of the tank. Whilst going uphill the carburetor is raised a bit higher than the tank. This is not a problem with a full tank but down below 2-3 gallons the carburetor ends up above the fuel level and starves for fuel.
By backing up the hill you place the carburetor below the tank and allow the engine to run.
I learned that trying to drive my 1913 Ford up my hill backwards to get home can be a bit confusing to drivers of modern cars!
Keep up the good work, I love your lectures.
I used the old Blewett pass a few times about 15-20 years ago with my small motorcycle. Cars could still drive up most of the way from either side, but boulders on the most remote sections limit full passage to motorcycles. The funny bit is that I had just unknowingly followed the old Sunset highway all the way from Spokane to North Bend. I have also followed the old Naches trail over the Cascades which was later bypassed by 410, currently forest service roads with an offroad vehicle section near the crest.
Oh and highway 99, not I-5, is the old pacific highway. Though they are closely parallel and merge here and there. Also locally renamed; Aurora Ave in Seattle; South Tacoma Way and Puyallup Ave in Tacoma
One piece of trivia about Bing Crosby was in his early film appearances they would stick his "jug handle" ears down with spirit gum. Making his ears hot and uncomfortable. Until one film the gum came unstuck, Bing was happy that once the ears were out they could stay out!
Ralph Mills my comment is 2yrs. late but my Uncle used to refer to my Dad as a taxi cab coming down the street with both doors open 😂
Bing Crosby used to sit in the front pew at my church (Our Lady of Angels in Burlingame California) every Sunday when I was a boy
You make geology and human history sizzle with LIFE! I hoped Ernst Zentner's trip to Hollywood would answer a question I've had...but since he returned home, I have to ask: Are you related to bandleader Si Zentner, who composed the song "The Stripper"? And thanks for indulging Yvonne's passion for geology. You *truly* ROCK.
Bing was born in Tacoma WA in 1903. His family moved to Spokane WA in 1906.
Great to get a free lecture from my favorite professor from CWU. Geology of National Parks was the best class I took in my 4 years in college. Thanks for posting this!
+Nick Biesold
Hope you're doing well, Nick. Thanks.
I was talking to my father-in-law today and he was telling me about the old model T's and that their fuel system was gravity driven. He said the reason why they had to back the cars up steep long grades was because otherwise they ran out of fuel, not because they didn't have the power, they lost power when they lost fuel.
Thank you for all of these different series of videos. I now know more about this area than I could ever imagine and I'm hungry for more.
Thanks Judi!
Nick, thank you for stopping at the Bing Crosby House yesterday. I listened to your lecture and liked the way you incorporated Bing & Al's route with the geology & geography of our area.
Nice of you to watch, Shirley. Thank you.
I was born and raised in Cashmere lived just off the sunset highway. Had no idea of the history. Thanks.
Fascinating. 72 years young and attended school one year in Marysville Washington 1967-68 got one A which was in Washington state history
Thank you indeed..... another beaut! The road trip with Bing and Al added an extra dimension to your always fascinating geological excursions...
Thanks Rod!
Wow!!!! Brilliant!!!! It cracks me up that noone recognizes him by name... and to confuse him with Sachmo (granted I'm over 40, and was a jazz loving band kid)? Perhaps you could have mentioned "White Christmas" or "Do you hear what I hear" and they would have gotten it. This was an incredible way to tie all of the geology together with the History and make it relevant to your audience, and also to give a time-lapse perspective. Thinking about the elder people that help you, looking at the technology now and what they have experienced, it must be amazing to gain their perspective!!! Once again, and amazing work!!!
Thanks for taking your presentation a bit more Eastward this time. I know it is not your specific neighbourhood but I would enjoy a presentation that would include the geology between Spokane and Tri-Cities. Having recently discovered your lectures (and now carrying a copy of Ice Age Floods in the glove box), I am enjoying my commutes with much more understanding though I have been driving these routes for the last 20 years. Thanks again for sharing all this great info.
+Frank Seiler
Thanks Frank. We're working on an I-90 Rocks series that will get over in your neck of the woods.
Best thing on CZcams.
Great lecture? Nick. Really great info. I am from Wisconsin and lived in Madison for 13 years. Not in Texas and have tried seeing anything like your lectures and Nada. I talk to people about how cool Washington is.
Thanks for your great effort in producting superb lectures!
Lots of oil and gas buried underneath those volcanics.
Seismic did not work so we used magnetoluric devices to find the best places to drill. Someday Washington State will take advantage of it.
You make geology and history FUN. Thank you. Keep it up.😎✝
@47:40 - Ford Model T brakes. it was in the 1960s, that my dad told me that he borrowed a Model T and drove up some mountain in
Washington state, probably when he was a teenager in the 1920s. He said the brakes were so bad, that coming down the mountain,
he had to back down the mountain in the Model T because the brakes were so bad. He said that was the reason why he never bought
a Model T. I learned from Jay Leno's website that Model Ts had mechanical brakes, even though some cars had hydraulic brakes back then.
The Model T had bad brakes, and a unique way of shifting gears, but it was cheap and the engine was very reliable.
My first thought about connections was: Bing Crosby made a record Brother Can You Spare a Dime, about the Depression; the US Govt had men building roads to give them employment during the Depression: while they were making the road they found some interesting geology
PS the song is on YT. It's worth a listen.
Nice vehicle! The motorpool at my college only allowed geology professors to use the ancient Suburban and the oldest van. Mountain fire roads in Pennsylvania's ridge and valley province were something else with Dr. Trexler driving that Suburban.
I love finally learning about western geology. Thanks for the great videos.
I definitely appreciate this lecture. I like looking at old USGS Topo maps and seeing how things have changed including highways and roads.
Not much goes on in eastern kansas so I love learning about Washington geology. Love your teaching. Hope to watch all your lectures.
The old model T's had gravity feed gas. My dad went over driving backwards so the gas would flow to the engine. They also needed the logs to go down the other side because their brakes sucked.
Dear Nick, thank you so much for these videos, they are wonderfully informative and entertaining plus I love your old school chalk dust and Ivory Soap approach!
Back in the sixtiescmy best freind and I spent many, many weekends driving all of the old roads in Eastern Washington. What fun! We would camp whenever we tired and got up, cracked s cold beer from the cooler and headed out to enjoy the scenery, the small towns (and rhe girls), the ancient highways and the hot (116 degrees the shade) wearher. I recall ine trip we were doing 148 mph on highway 2 in my freinds 70 Cuda !
Nick,
Thank You, I had lived in eastern Washington for 35ish years and had no idea that the old Vantage bridge was dismantled, stored, moved and reused at Lyons Ferry.
Thanks for watching, JP.
We used to drive the scablands every I was a kid and it was so boring.. now that I'm an adult and I know the history of the scablands, I still find the driving incredibly boring😂.. but this video is still very informative. I live in Spokane and driven the sunset highway, I'm still learning thing I didn't know
I live in Kennewick, I really wish you were in my car to provide commentary whenever I go for a drive or head Portland or Seattle haha.
Hi Nick,
I've enjoyed your series immensely.
In Issaquah at Greenwood Point, there is a sunken forest. When we moved to Issaquah fron Northern NY State 34 year ago, I asked my sister in law about it, but she didn't have an answer. I kept asking people about why the trees were in the lake and got some wild answers, none that made much sense at all.
About the time the news came out about the 1700 mega-quake, that happened in January of that year, I put 2+2 together, but come up with five....obviously the wrong answer. I knew the Seattle area was prone to quakes and landslides, and had wondered if the cause of the sunken forest, had been caused by a quake during rainy season.
The 1700 quake, seemed to solve the problem for me.
There is a canyon going up Cougar 'Mountain', on the south side across I-90 from Greenwood Point, with a creek running through it. So I figure the ground was saturated to the point that the 1700 mega-quake, brought down the hillside, into the lake.
I then watched your video about the sunken forests in Lake Washington that happened about 1,000 years ago, with a quake associated with the Seattle fault. That fault of course, runs pretty much parallel to I-90 and across Lake Sammamish, right through Greenwood Point. That got me rethinking my previous assumptions.
Now that a lot of info is readily available on line, I did some digging, that really didn't take that long. I was right in my original assumptions about a quake causing the slide, I just had the wrong quake that trigged it.
Thanks for unknowingly, pointing me in the right direction.
Over 20 years ago, while walking our dog along the banks of Issaquah Creek, I notice an area where the creek cut into a bank on a corner, with a gravel bar on the opposite side. At the time, the cut from above the water line had to be an estimated eight to ten feet high, as memory has it. In the cut was light colored soil and gravel, above the waterline, then a very dark band of soil, several inches above that and on top of that, another few feet of light colored material, resembling what was under the dark band. I don't know what that band may be.
It's located fairly near the mouth of the creek, near a marshy area on the east side of the creek, adjacent to a office complex, on East Lake Sammamish Blvd.
We now live in Kent, but I've been thinking about making the dive to Issaquah, in hopes of finding that spot if it is still there, to photograph it. I've looked on line to see if I can find any information about it, but have so far, struck out.
I'm thinking possibly it might have something to do with a quake. Was there a small tsunami on Lake Sammamish? Is the dark matter a buried marsh, topped off by gravel brought in by the tsunami? Is it an ancient deposit that was uplifted by a quake? Are they deposits laid down by the ancient lake, that was there before Lake Sammsmish!?! Lots of questions, I can not find the answers to.
I know you are mostly involed with geography east of the Cascade Crest, but I was hoping you might have an answer to this puzzle.
Thanks so much for your series of shows and lectures, I have found on CZcams. I hope one day to be able to attend a puplic lecture and possibly going on a field trip with you.
By the way, Nothern NY, and the Adirondacks, have many various intetesting geology as well and is prone to quakes of magnitude 5.0+. The Adirondacks are rising about one foot a century, from what I've read, still resounding from the weight of the ice sheet that covered all but the highest peaks. The Adirondacks, also sit upon a sheld of granite that comes down out of Canada and is seperate from the Appalachian Chain. The ancient mountains that were once there, are thought to have once rivalled the Himalayas. Yet 'shale' can be found there and in land surrounding the Adirondacks.
Thanks so much!
John June.
Thanks for the info, John.
Love this lecture
1992 was before the World Wide Web: before that, geeks like me had notebooks full of HTTP::/ addresses. Before the www designation and search engines. There were "Spider" programs as early as 1990, Back in 1989 I was on the internet when it was text only. We talked with students at Universities in Russia, Holland, Germany, Britian, etc. On monochrome green screens...
Absolutely love your lectures! Watched over a dozen so far. I used to live and work up at Lake Roosevelt and taught the public about geology and the ice age. I was so happy to see this talk about how GL Columbia and the Okanogan Lobe filled the lowlands and diverted the Missoula Floods to the south. Had it not been for GLC, the channeled scablands would not have likely not been as extensive as most of the flood water would have followed the Columbia River channel. If you ever get up to Lake Roosevelt in the Lincoln area near Fort Spokane at the old coking mill, there is a vertical wall of pillow basalts over 100 feet high from when the Columbia basalts pushed the Columbia river to the NW. I like to think about that ancient river totally boiling away when the lava hit it. Anyhow, on the Spokane Arm of Lake Roosevelt are some phenomenal GLM flood crossbeds about 30 feet high just east of Porcupine Bay. Along that stretch as well (visible only by boat) are great sequences of GLC deposits with GLM flood deposits between them. What is really neat in these sequences, which gives folks a sense of the power of the floods, is where the GLM sand/gravel flood layers are sitting on top of the GLC clay layers. They aren't flat, they are all swirled up! Imagine the force of the GLM floods slamming and swirling into the lake bottom. The floods literally sucked up the GLC clay layers into these neat swirls, which then got locked in as the sand from the floods settled and preserved those violent flood currents. It's kind of like a sand and clay version of the swirl in a cinnamon roll, which is a fantastic snapshot of the forces in those floods.
The only thing I wish more people would talk about on this topic is that when the Okanogan lobe emplaced and blocked the Columbia River and formed GLC, is that the Columbia River, with much greater volume than it has today, had to spill somewhere for thousands of years. I need to look at the spillway heigh profiles, but if it went over Dry Falls and then the falls in Frenchman Hills Coulee, or the Telford-Crab Creek or Cheney-Palouse, it must have been a sight to behold! Looking forward to more of your videos, especially on GLC and the new research. Thank you for being such an excellent spokesman for Washington's amazing geologic story!
Great comments, Jeff. Thank you. Nice tips. That area is on my list for learning/visiting.
Outstanding, fascinating, and informative! Combining vintage highways and geology (plus a vintage celebrity) is a great idea! I am equally impressed with your ability in this and other videos to present the science of geology in engaging ways for the public. Kudos!! Dave H.
Thanks much, Dave. This lecture not wildly popular, so extra nice to hear from people like you who enjoyed this one.
I know who Bing Crosby is. We had one of his Christmas albums. He was Roman Catholic and a notorious pothead.
these dates match up with gobekli tepe history when they built underground citys. must have been some major changes in our
planet going on . very interesting.
Good to know.
Not sure if this is the reason why cars would go up Blewett in reverse but my grandfather (99 years old and still active!) told me that old cars sent gas to the engine via gravity (no pump). If you went up a steep gradient going forward the fuel would stop flowing to the engine.
+Monty Walker
Thanks. Had a number of people come up after the talk to say something similar.
The gasoline tank was often located within the dash board area below and in front of the windshield. Gas flowed directly down into the carburetor.
Reverse gear on a vehicle (some veteran American motorbikes included) was the lowest gear, so if bottom gear was too high to get up a hill, then your last chance and mechanical hope was to turn it around and get a crick in your neck as you motored up...
As long as outstanding presentation!
The sun set highway run s from Portland Oregon. TO seaside Oregon. Also highway 26
A great educator
Loved it I hope you do some more highways and roads.
Thanks Sam. I've realized there's just a few of us that like the old highways thing...
This is the Geological Touring History, Guide to good Highways and Bridges, ..sounds good, like something to sing about, to me.
Geologists have to sing around the campfire, it's part of the curriculum.
Great presentation. I love tracing old routes like this and piecing together the history that is behind their origin. I hope there is enough interest in this subject to see another road-trip presentation put together. I had never seen the early film bits of Bing Crosby singing. Its amazing how long his career lasted (60+ years). He even recorded Christmas music with David Bowie at some time in the 1980's. Thank you for taking the time to put this together.
Thanks much. I really like this lecture and hardly anybody watches it. But you found it....so thanks.
@@Ellensburg44 Some of us were a little slow finding it. I'm not sure how accurately audience feedback represents actual viewers but I sure hope it doesn't deter you. This was a wonderful presentation and, having been born in '43, it was almost like listening to pop music! (Remember, Bing didn't let a few duds stop him.)
After watching about a dozen of your videos so far I don't understand why geology isn't emphasized in grade schools. I grew up in Idaho Falls wondering when the AEC thing out in Arco might blow up. Should have been climbing volcano cones and collecting rocks. Thank you!
I need a pocket Nick to carry with me on every road trip I take. Is there an ap yet? lol!
This is your best lesson yet. You missed your calling as a speaker and a historian.
Thanks Paul. I really like this one....but too obscure for the masses, I guess. Nice to hear that you liked it.
@@Ellensburg44 Might be obscure but I loved it! :) Don't underestimate your appeal! :)
This dude's awesome.
White Christmas - Bing Crosby!
Hey Nick, in the picture of four men standing on the summit of Bluett pass I stopped the image and then I noticed you were in the image at the right. If TV was still B&W I would have wondered how you had gotten into the image!
I believe for the most part, that I5 is a stand-alone freeway, I think the old highway being discussed was, and still is, highway 99. It ran through EVERY town and took forever to get for us to get from Sunnyvale CA. to Seattle (trip took a minimum of 24 hours straight through) :--))))))
You are not a shitty comedian~ I could listen to you all day on any subject! Thank you so much for this lecture!!! I also need to stop by the Bing house again as that picture my Grandmother took of Bing and Uncle Bud was enlarged and put up. Keep being YOU!!!
Thanks Betsy. Interesting info.
tall tales says that paul bunyon dug a grave for babe, the blue ox when she died; the hole being puget sound, and the dirt pile became the olympic mountains. here is your next geology lesson/story!!!
Good to know.
The Sunset Highway is between Seaside and Portland Oregon. Hwy 26.
Fantastic video!
Yep great videos as usual. Thanks for having a website to be able to know when you do the talks.
Thanks much.
This one ties my new favorite subject with my all-time favorite; geology and histoy!
How do I get on your e-mail list, Dr. Zentner? Every one of these lectures is more addictive than the one before it.
Is there anyone who gives a similar lecture series about Oregon geology? I know that it would be too much to ask that he/she would be as engrossing as these lectures, but I think tying the lectures to what I see around me would (hopefully) make up for that.
Email me at nick@geology.cwu.edu. Good books on Oregon Geology...but no lectures online that I'm aware of...
Hey, Nick. Just got this vid linked to me, I have watched a couple of your lectures before. Great stuff.
Today if you want to go from Seattle to Snoqualmie Pass and points east you generally take I-90 over Lake Washington, through Bellevue, Issaquah, North Bent, etc. But of course the first floating bridge over the lake was not built until 1940. When the Sunset Hwy. was constructed the route went south on what was then Empire Way (Now MLK) to Renton and thence to Issaquah. The route from downtown Renton to the east city limits is still listed as Sunset Blvd. in two sections. The first section (as you travel eastwards) is "Old Sunset" running up the hill at an angle from Liberty Park in the downtown. In the '50s Park Ave. was extended from the north end of Renton Boeing to join with Sunset in the Highlands. This was done to improve access to Boeing from the Highlands. Today "Old Sunset" is generally only driven by people who live in the southwester areas of the Highlands.
I moved to Renton in the late 1980s, lived in the Highlands for over a decade, so the area is pretty familiar to me, and I got to know it's history somewhat. In 1988 the City tore off the surface of "Old Snset" down to the original paved roadbed and laid a nice smooth layer of asphalt on it. This gave me a good chance to get a look at the old roadbed. It is 10' x 15' concrete slabs and each slab has the stamp of the company which laid it. Can't recall the name, but the stamps also had the date...1914.
So...keep the videos coming, please.
Wow.
Love the historical plugin. I’ve traveled many 1000s of WA state roads and really enjoy your channel because it gives me some perspective on the geology. The historical photos/info is an excellent addition.
I know that story. But I grew up in the Lower Yakima valley (Whitstran WA) The OIE was part of the IEH,. (Old # 8, witch proceeded all other)😢 witch IIncloudes The Mulln Tralil US 30, US 410, SunSet H way, and others. Old # 8 is part of the California/Oregon/Umatilla/British Columbia Wagon train trail. Well I am rambling LOL I like History & I remember these things from the past
thank you I really enjoyed that (back east in nyc)
the first song bing et al was singing was to the tune of "the stein song", a big hit for rudy vallee. go black bears!
bing was around when the American people still demand real talent, a Hollywood personality that was a triple threat he could dance sing, and act with the best of the day he was as famous as any of them could be at the time for the technology of the day and unlike today he was wholesome and clean as a whistle and very patriotic
after all that praise I never liked that area it bored me to death the same way spaghetti westerns did I couldn't wait for A&E to die on the vine but it never did and my folks drove me crazy with it lol
is it so hard to fathom why then Ejepts pyramids were so much more poorly constructed the younger they got? old empires fall further depending on their length of ascension/ this seems like its off topic but is really isn't geology is a real science because it tries to get the facts right and it's your only chance to take a stab at prehistory no other work dose that the only other work that comes close it natural law and even it was full if shitters at times. there was no place in history that men didn't seek to influence other men for selfish gain. you cant kick a historical rock without finding evil under it America never had a fighting chance. but there's truth in the soil and rocks never lie you just have to know how to read it
This a very just subject Thanks Nick. I have been looking into more Yellowstone fissures too because I have felt that the SE Wa. fissures were to far for the lava to stay hot enough to be able to travel to the Pacific without more fissures to the West. Great info Nick and I also saw that Chris Goldfinger has new dates for the Cascadia Subduction zone and it is a bit more scary for us here on the West coast
Thanks for watching, Scott, but maybe your comments are for a different video than this Bing Crosby lecture?
I was referring to the chart also showing the Fissures. It shows more fissures then the last one I saw. I just love your lectures and even My 9 yr old Grandson Nicky is coming with me to go rock hunting for this years Science fair.
Thanks again for sharing life with enthusiasm man who has been helpful in my life with geology,,wowed by the hill,yahoo
Thanks for watching, Michael!
Interesting about the 13,400 bp dating of the deposits in Glacial Lake Columbia. Just saw a news item about copralites in an Oregon cave being dated to 13,000 bp. What it might have been like to be an indigenous person witnessing these huge floods ...
Weirdly I know who Bing Crosby is because of a very long webcomic that randomly mentions him a lot
Road Trip!!
Hello from San Diego. We have a Sunrise Highway and Riverside is in the Inland Empire! So names definitely get reused and recycled.
Thanks. Hi from Washington.
As you note in your video, at the top of Blewett Pass was a lodge called "Top O The Hill", now long gone. I once found the foundation of the building, the original sign (that you show at 49.08) and a large pile of auto oil cans. There is an older and unpaved road coming up the hill to the right of the photo. Last time I was there, I followed this road on foot for some distance. Don't know where it goes.
Enjoy your videos.
Thanks much, Jeffrey. I've explored a bit at the old pass, but some nice private homes up there prevent total access.
The last time I was there, there were no structures, the highway was abandoned and largely forgotten.
But here is another tidbit: On the Oregon side of the Columbia, between Wyeth and Hood river there is Shellrock Mountain. It has large talus slopes, lots of loose rock. I you look up on one of them you will see what looks like a rock wall, several hundred feet up. I hiked up there many years ago and found that it is actually a road, built of hand placed rock without mortar, no asphalt, no concrete. I believe that it was built just before the Civil War to connect Fort Dalles to Fort Vancouver, then abandoned. It runs for a mile or so, but stops on both ends. As far as I could tell I was the only one to visit it, no garbage, no graffiti etc. There is a zigzag trail up to the road from where the Columbia River used to be, probably for mules. I imagine steam boats landed supplies there in the late 1850's.
When you step into the woods below this road, you will find yourself standing on asphalt with trees growing thru. This is an abandoned section of highway 30.
Very interesting.
Very cool. Thanks.
I've been wondering about the timing of the Sunset Highway & PS 10, for a long time, since I live right near old pieces of them, east of Spokane.
Nice. It was fun to learn about those old highways.
Could u do Bob Hope Mountain.
Nick, are there any records left of the construction of the Sunset Highway? The early highway builders usually sought the path of least resistance, and it seems that the lava flows as scoured by the ice would have made a good bed for the highway.
Not sure. Probably in some archives somewhere. Thanks for watching.
There is a rock at Kettle Falls that was used by the Indians there to sharpen their hooks and tools. That rock is an erratic carried there by the ice age floods.
Maybe some of the glacier was calving into lakes to cause some of the floods. Checking differences in sediments between north and south of ridges might figure if water washing over ridges east of Lake Colombia or even Colombia region itself.
Interesting idea, but looks like floods way bigger than calving-induced.
Why did you not mention white Christmas Nick?
Who is Randall Carlson?
Great video, of course it is not geology, it is geography and geology.
+Monty Walker
You are correct.
+Nick Zentner P.S. An enjoyable presentation. Thank you.
What are your ideas on Moses Coulee?
Moses Coulee remains a mystery to us....why does is wimp out as you head north? The southern end is so deep and well-developed. A new lecture is in the works regarding relative ages of Moses, Grand, and the floods that stayed in the Columbia Valley over Chelan and Wenatchee.
My suspicion is, it was formed by a lake on the glacier.
Perhaps better: a water reservoir under the glacier?
A number of British Columbia geologists say "where did all of that water go when you melt the Okanagon Lobe?" They see Moses Coulee as an outlet...
BabababababaBing Crosby
is that a recorded laugh track? :-)
Who's here in 2023 ?? ❤
Nice 😮😅😅😊 video 😊
Bing Crosby was not a Jazz singer; Crosby set the tone for Pop (contemporary) music of his era
>^..^< Bing C. = I’m dreaming of a White Christmas.... I’m 1949 vintage..........
lol! fred kruger @ 55:15!
Poor guy - that's his name. Excellent historian.
The only sunset highway I know is highway 26 between Portland and seaside Oregon. The only one that counts
And no mention of Bob Hope??? booboo :--))))) (well, it might have helped some people remember who Bing was?)
Good to know.
Oops, I MADE a 'booboo'. I meant to say boohoo :-)))))))
What if it Turns out it happened nothing like he is teaching.