Xyris vs Lotho vs Yuriko vs Niv-Mizzet | CEDH Gameplay

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  • čas přidán 18. 01. 2024
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Komentáře • 107

  • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
    @PlayingWithPowerMTG  Před 5 měsíci +2

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  • @vanilleR028
    @vanilleR028 Před 5 měsíci +34

    When Tia casted the march, Niv triggers to draw and deal 1 damage to the phantasmal image, everyone forgot the trigger i think, none the less, congrats to Tia

    • @deadbyenvy9588
      @deadbyenvy9588 Před měsícem

      niv was phased out

    • @thedoctor1471
      @thedoctor1471 Před 25 dny

      Niv triggers on cast, so it wasn't phased out yet.

    • @thedoctor1471
      @thedoctor1471 Před 25 dny

      PhImage should have entered as a copy of gilded drake, yes

  • @xXxcyborg1996xXx
    @xXxcyborg1996xXx Před 5 měsíci +36

    The best part of counterbalance is the "may reveal" so you can choose what to counter and keep the card hidden

    • @DeathSpeach
      @DeathSpeach Před 5 měsíci +7

      You don't get to look first unless another card lets you, like top activation or a future sight effect.

    • @graog123
      @graog123 Před měsícem

      No the best part of counterbalance is absolutely fucking the rest of the table for several turns for only 2 mana.

  • @adams333
    @adams333 Před 5 měsíci +24

    Casting Peer into the Abyss to give an opponent 26 ping creatures with goblin bombardment felt like king making.

  • @EmeraldSmash
    @EmeraldSmash Před 5 měsíci +7

    This was super fun to play! It wasn't a perfect game for us but we all had fun. Took so long too. 😂😂 thwnks for letting me play with yall!

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy Před 5 měsíci +41

    Wow. Great play with the Peer into the Abyss lol. Yeah let's give them 26 snakes. Oops! GG ❤❤❤

    • @tking5218
      @tking5218 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Peer into Chains losing to 26 snakes..... I guess I will just lose now

  • @koanos2448
    @koanos2448 Před 5 měsíci +9

    14:00 How did it take 15 turns for Johnny to finally Ninjutsu in Yuriko? Was the early game Null Rod that good? I knew it was a mull to 5 but still...

  • @chasesimmons3053
    @chasesimmons3053 Před 5 měsíci +13

    This Lotho deck is always so threatening

  • @gazza4589
    @gazza4589 Před 5 měsíci +25

    Counter balance doing WORK this game. That was nice to see!

  • @kaasham8871
    @kaasham8871 Před 5 měsíci +5

    03:20 the bow master trigger should fissel? (i don't know how to typ it..)

  • @connarobertson3416
    @connarobertson3416 Před 5 měsíci +126

    So long story short, niv spectated and made it a drag, and xyris can win if your opponent makes you win

    • @jakemaxwell3810
      @jakemaxwell3810 Před 5 měsíci +14

      Niv got pretty unlucky with drawing no lands or mana for so long. Counterbalance pulled huge there to keep them in the game and the chains helped as well. It's fine if you don't like low resource games, but I enjoyed it and it showed a nice diversity of meta that we don't often see.

    • @crppledizzle9374
      @crppledizzle9374 Před 5 měsíci +2

      yeah this shit was incredibly underwhelming

    • @tking5218
      @tking5218 Před 5 měsíci +6

      Niv did its job but got unlucky. I have no idea why Zeb went for Peer with Chains there.

    • @marioquezada4036
      @marioquezada4036 Před 5 měsíci

      Truly one of the worst cedh games, got so bored I fell asleep

  • @cjm8836
    @cjm8836 Před 5 měsíci +14

    Feels like he threw the game with that peer? Would love to know the thought process behind it given what was on board?

    • @TRS-Aphelion
      @TRS-Aphelion Před 5 měsíci +2

      It felt like Zeb may have forgotten about Chains. There was a lot on board to remember and they were constantly trying to play around Counterbalance

    • @slymcfly123
      @slymcfly123 Před 5 měsíci +2

      He could have lost his cool with how many times he was countered. 😂

    • @TripsAhoy
      @TripsAhoy Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah bad call. Oops.

    • @raymondsimpson8875
      @raymondsimpson8875 Před 5 měsíci +1

      With his lifetotal, he was probably hail marying, knowing he wouldn't untap anyways

  • @taylorchamplin379
    @taylorchamplin379 Před 5 měsíci +4

    march should have triggered niv mizzet ping phantasmal image triggering sacrifice. changes the game big time

  • @jasoncook2715
    @jasoncook2715 Před 5 měsíci +3

    At no point did I know how this game was going to end. Counterbalance definitely throws a wrench in the game, especially those who overlook it

  • @drboolin
    @drboolin Před 5 měsíci +6

    Zeb got so boned this game, I always find myself rooting for him as a fellow Lotho enjoyer

    • @leotamer5
      @leotamer5 Před 18 dny

      Half of his opponents didn't have lands for half of the game, he drew like 20 cards from necropotence and it was his card that ended up ending the game in a very predictable manner.

  • @jasonappel1253
    @jasonappel1253 Před 5 měsíci +12

    14:28 peer plus chains doesn’t allow 26 cards to be drawn. If a card has a player draw more than one card at a time they are considered separate draws. Therefore, zeb should discard then draw one at a time 26 times.

  • @brandonliming9612
    @brandonliming9612 Před 5 měsíci +1

    This was a great game to watch. Much fun.

  • @SubSonicEctomorph
    @SubSonicEctomorph Před 5 měsíci +2

    Surprised how few snakes actually came out 😅

  • @chrisyourfriend59
    @chrisyourfriend59 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I have a crazy strong Xyris list, but I don't know that I'd call her CEDH, I do love my Temur lists and I do love my Xyris list, plentiful high power.

  • @notimeleft1
    @notimeleft1 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Tia made my dream come true with a good competitive Xyris build.

  • @Flyboy245
    @Flyboy245 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Man that necropotence just refused to stay down. Came back 3 times I think? And counterbalance did a ton of work

  • @DerpyLaron
    @DerpyLaron Před 5 měsíci +1

    what a drag. I am not sure what Zeb was hoping for of that Peer. I guess it was a hail Mary to find something to win. However it seems like he got knocked of his game plan and never managed to regain his footing. weird game

  • @thief_Entertainment
    @thief_Entertainment Před 5 měsíci +1

    This was kind of a goofy game. They get like that once in a while. Going for a win and not getting there is rough, especially when you give the win to someone else. The Niv pilot took 4 turns off as well, and neutralizing a control player make it a three player game. GG. I like seeing the more janky side of Cedh.

  • @DeathSpeach
    @DeathSpeach Před 5 měsíci +1

    Johnny shouldnt have gotten the amass orc token when Tia sacrificed the Birds on Turn 4 (i think). Unless im wrong (which i might be) because i though the bow master had to deal damage first, then amass orcs 1...

  • @ggangulo
    @ggangulo Před 5 měsíci +1

    grindfest. love it.

  • @TaG_
    @TaG_ Před 5 měsíci

    Im yet to watch the episode but im so keen to see my sweet baby boy xyr on the show, its my only cedh deck and i cant wait to see this take on it

  • @HelenoPaiva
    @HelenoPaiva Před 5 měsíci +1

    Turn 16…. Damn! They managed to drag stuff…

  • @snotice12
    @snotice12 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Emma effectively prevented Zeb from going off multiple times. In addition, Johnny's deck wasn't kind to him.
    Tia played the long game and didn't panick, which also why she won this game.

    • @EmeraldSmash
      @EmeraldSmash Před 5 měsíci +1

      I was tryna tell him about the peer 😂😂😭😭😭😭 colors were not kind to me but it was a fun game.

    • @tking5218
      @tking5218 Před 5 měsíci +1

      March should have triggered Niv Mizzit to ping the Image killing it. That Peer also felt like kingmaking with a Chains out. This game was very sloppy which happens but the title makes it feel pushed IMO

  • @fosterdawson7339
    @fosterdawson7339 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Only slight issue ive seen so far is Johnny shouldn't have amassed. Since the birds of paradise was gone before the bowmasters ability resolved, the whole ability fizzles

    • @TheDaytun13
      @TheDaytun13 Před 5 měsíci

      Nah. It still amasses. It doesn't say "if creature died" or "if damage is dealt this way".

    • @NotAWhaleAtAll
      @NotAWhaleAtAll Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@@TheDaytun13 the abilities without legal targets don't resolve and are simply removed from the stack

    • @TheDaytun13
      @TheDaytun13 Před 5 měsíci

      Ah, the separation of the abilities makes that confusing. 😅

    • @johnweinhandl8890
      @johnweinhandl8890 Před 5 měsíci

      I came here to ask this EXACT question. Thank you

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Correct. It doesn't amass. It's even in the rulings on Bowmasters. They just made a mistake.

  • @seroni17
    @seroni17 Před 16 dny

    @8:56 why didn't tia just use the treasures to keep activating glinthorn buckaneer and win the game?
    Was chains of mephistopholese stopping the combo?

  • @betterpergl9664
    @betterpergl9664 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Interesting Temporal Trespass alter, looks almost like Enter the Infinite

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  Před 5 měsíci +1

      It was what he fetched first, until he realized that chains made it so he would have to discard his entire library. If only Zeb realized the same thing...

    • @Starkipraggy
      @Starkipraggy Před 5 měsíci

      ironic, he could save himself, but not others..@@PlayingWithPowerMTG

  • @marcelolima70
    @marcelolima70 Před 5 měsíci +1

    If i was Jhonny, i definily would burn this Homeward Path and put a Takenuma, Abandoned Mire in the place just to be a land that generate colored mana and enters untapped. XD

    • @EmeraldSmash
      @EmeraldSmash Před 5 měsíci +1

      I've been looking into it, homeward path feels super bad in yuriko cause you need the colors. I did add minamo recently. Got super bad luck with Mt lands this game though 😂

  • @user-zf6kr4mn3o
    @user-zf6kr4mn3o Před 5 měsíci

    what sleeves did Lotho use ?

  • @NotAWhaleAtAll
    @NotAWhaleAtAll Před 5 měsíci +2

    Shouldn't Emma have drawn through Niv-Mizzet in response to the March?

  • @ysendy7027
    @ysendy7027 Před 5 měsíci

    Why not sac xyris to bombardment in response to gilded drake trigger?

  • @andyontaneda996
    @andyontaneda996 Před 5 měsíci

    Crazy game

  • @rainx381
    @rainx381 Před 5 měsíci

  • @jacobschanck5991
    @jacobschanck5991 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Crazy you don't t1 fish

  • @Renatoooooo1000
    @Renatoooooo1000 Před 5 měsíci

    Try Zada!

  • @leotamer5
    @leotamer5 Před 18 dny

    I think this the match the really convinced me that Lotho isn't good. Two of the players were mana screwed for half of the game, necropotence drew like 20 cards, and they had a dominate board most of the game, but they had nothing that let them push through interaction to actually win the game. While there was a lot of counter spells, the two blue players must have been bricking on something. If they had less, that probably just means they drew their proactive cards and then kill you before you set everything up.

  • @dreadgray78
    @dreadgray78 Před 5 měsíci

    Does Drannith stop Commander Ninjutsu, or did Johnny just choose not to use Yuriko at several opportunities?

    • @EmeraldSmash
      @EmeraldSmash Před 5 měsíci +1

      If you're referring to the beginning, I didn't have colors for the longest time. I took the hand to slow down the game cause I knew I wasn't coming out with a lot early game abs did not want to try my luck at 3 cards

  • @hallucinogenicjello5847
    @hallucinogenicjello5847 Před 5 měsíci

    Something interesting that I saw in the Xyris list is the Neoform + Tandem lookout, as well as room for Malcolm + Glint Horn, but no Niv Mizzet?
    When I was was looking at a competitive Xyris list, Niv being an easy commander -> neoform away stuck out to me, but maybe 9 mana compared to 6 mana for the combos is too steep?

  • @benedictbienias394
    @benedictbienias394 Před 5 měsíci

    shouldnt the cabal therapy be in exile due to be being discarded through necropotence?

  • @FaustTheThird
    @FaustTheThird Před 5 měsíci

    Beautiful, i love seeing stax like this, makes a prison player happy!

  • @Gamemaster99959
    @Gamemaster99959 Před 2 měsíci

    The amount of money on that table...

  • @dreadgray78
    @dreadgray78 Před 5 měsíci

    Didn't matter for the outcome but Peer should have taken 4 life from Zeb not 3 since it rounds up, no?

  • @WarmasterSidious
    @WarmasterSidious Před 5 měsíci

    counter balance with another card of the game .... that card is soooooo strong

  • @joshlin8002
    @joshlin8002 Před 5 měsíci +8

    That Peer was really dumb.

  • @slymcfly123
    @slymcfly123 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great game. Great variety.

  • @nubnub8202
    @nubnub8202 Před 5 měsíci

    wTF is malcom and glint doing in a Xryis deck??

    • @tking5218
      @tking5218 Před 5 měsíci

      Combo? But I agree seems really lackluster.

  • @codyh5802
    @codyh5802 Před 5 měsíci

    Need more Rocco

  • @nicolasahumadaherrera3899
    @nicolasahumadaherrera3899 Před 5 měsíci

    counterbalance mvp. i think Zeb gift the mach to tia whit this peer

  • @il-jumpermt7577
    @il-jumpermt7577 Před 5 měsíci +1

    No t2 yuriko Mulligan away

  • @esorstory
    @esorstory Před 5 měsíci

    I’m so sorry for the fact Yuriko did not have time to shine in this game in my opinion 😔

    • @blakerobinson4198
      @blakerobinson4198 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yeah, 16 turns. If only they had MORE time, lmao

    • @esorstory
      @esorstory Před 5 měsíci

      @@blakerobinson4198 i agree with you, i was not talking about time but i was wondering why didn’t enter in play earlier! I was just… sad to not see yuriko, just that 😂

  • @oasisgaming7005
    @oasisgaming7005 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Crap I forgot to use my patron powers and watch thus early. Now I'm watching it normally like some uncool person that doesn't support this channel :(

  • @Bleach213monster
    @Bleach213monster Před 5 měsíci

    I feel like they gave Tia that game just because it was a charity stream. But it is fine, just pointing it out.
    This morning it out

  • @shadowblaze740
    @shadowblaze740 Před 5 měsíci

    3:15
    Bowmasters etb fizzles with birds no longer being a valid target so amass 1 does not happen

  • @anthonybuck4864
    @anthonybuck4864 Před 5 měsíci

    Huge punt and kingmaking by Zeb

  • @markscruggs8346
    @markscruggs8346 Před 5 měsíci

    The endings lately have been really disappointing wow

  • @charlesmaillho367
    @charlesmaillho367 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I'm sorry but this was the most flaccid game on this channel with 2 players not doing anything for nearly 8 turns, a counterbalance that made the game a slog, and the peer into the "kingmaking" abyss. I'd say this is far from a cEDH game and more like a mid-to-high powered game.

  • @kaasham8871
    @kaasham8871 Před 5 měsíci +1

    worst yuriko player... keeps a hand with no 1 mana creature and 2 lands while one is collerless...

  • @alanrois7941
    @alanrois7941 Před 5 měsíci

    That peer didn't make sense

  • @blakemcconnell6213
    @blakemcconnell6213 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Niv control may be the most boring cEDH deck to watch.

  • @KIKthaFRIK
    @KIKthaFRIK Před 5 měsíci +1

    Is this an out of season april fools joke?

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  Před 5 měsíci +1

      No, but if you say that because you didn't think the game was good, that's kind of a mean thing to say.

    • @KIKthaFRIK
      @KIKthaFRIK Před 5 měsíci

      @@PlayingWithPowerMTG it looks even more like an april fools joke after another gameplay where the final statement is that Tatyova is not cedh viable when at least won a tournament and is more used than Xyris

  • @Starkipraggy
    @Starkipraggy Před 5 měsíci

    I'm sure the players had fun, but none of them played well... Player of the game is counterbalance for singlehandedly mental booming zeb into throwing the game.

  • @giorgioleoni3471
    @giorgioleoni3471 Před 5 měsíci

    I quit watching for the misplays