Bad Magic Cards (We Play Them Anyway) | The Command Zone 517 | Magic The Gathering Commander
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Can any Magic card truly be called “bad?” Yes, but that doesn’t mean you can’t have fun playing them! This episode, Rachel polls the Command Zone crew on cards they love to play even though they aren’t exactly optimized. Commander is a casual format! Play more bad cards! From 9-drops to draft chaff, come see if your pet card is on our list.
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What’s your favorite “bad” card to put in your decks? What deck or decks is it in? And why do you love to play with it?
I like to run Karmic Justice in mono white just as an incentive for my opponents to point removal elsewhere
Sunbird's invocation
Absolute Grace and Absolute Law. Giving _ALL_ creatures protection from Red and/or Black is great, especially when your own deck doesn't have those anyway. So now your creatures are all protection from some of your opponents' stuff, and they can't even target their own stuff to buff/equip them.
I also really like Endless Horizons. It's a perfect way to make sure you hit your land drops in White. Just put like 6-7 Plains under it (even nonbasics) and you're set for your land drops; meanwhile, people are much less likely to remove it since destroying it would be seen as a dick move, and everyone knows the pain of being mana screwed. (but again, only put like 6-7 lands under it, so if it _does_ get removed you haven't exiled all the lands in your library)
Villainous wealth. You could get some lands and maybe a ramp spell. OR! Maybe you get their (insert huge threat here)!
I did have infinite Mana once and used it to steal someone's entire library
I absolutely love Possibility Storm, i run it in a Jhoira of the Ghitu deck, since it causes my opponents to not know what they will be playing, but i do since suspend is casting from exile. basically everytime I play it i lose but it is so funny to watch everyone (myself included) flip past great cards that we arent going to play. (it was also very funny to watch a friend mill themselves out by playing the one enchantment they had in their deck, and exiling their whole library)
Bringing Rachel to the Command Zone is one of the best descisions ever.
She is smart , friendly , funny and just awesome.
She's a keeper
I missed where they changed the hosts, can someone explain when that happened and what the teams motivation was ?
@@merlinduty7546 I wish I new too I’ve been trying to find out I miss Josh and jimmy together
Ppppplllllpp0😊
Rachel always seeing the cool side of “bad” cards is why she’s quickly becoming my favorite host.
I agree completely
I wasn't sure about her initially but I like that she plays commander like I do, to just have fun. I hear them talk about stuff being unplayable or too slow. Who cares? Just play it anyways if you like it
Not gonna lie tho. Glad she finally lost on camera😅
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In every commander deck I’ve built that has dimir colors, I’ve always run Wrexial, the Risen Deep. It was either in the 99 or the commander. It’s my absolute favorite creature card of all time, because my older brother gave me 2 copies of it when I first started collecting the cards. I will never forget how much of an influence he’s been to my life and as a thank you I run it as much as I can!
Repay in Kind is how Crim won the latest episode of Commander at Home, I'd never even seen the card before and I lost my shit
I watched the MTG Goldfish commander podcast, hearing him mention it in one of their videos. Inspired me to make a Selenia lifeswap tribal deck. It has been so much fun since.
I run it with Lichs mastery, drop myself to 0 and wipe everyone simultaneously
I came to comments for this!
It was nuts
was actually the greatest win in MTG I've maybe ever seen. I don't think the card is really that bad it's just very niche
Oh man, Jordan's philosophy on big mana. I built Sasaya, Orochi Ascendant for that exact reason. Anyone can go infinite, but I want to make 700!
Yes! Gimme a huge but non-infinite number any day of the week!
The best part of lurking predators is it says "may put that card on the bottom of your library" so even if it's not a creature you still get to draw it next turn if you want it.
Repay in kind in my K’rrik deck has made my playgroup go from “dude your health total is too low to pay for that” to “oh no his health total is too low”
The rollercoaster 😂
Same! I love it in my krrik deck
I love seeing Repay in Kind. It's a banger in Rakdos self-harm deck.
Great combo with liche too
I love using Tempting Wurm and always cast it after making all my opponents draw a crap tonne of cards! Its super fun and chaotic and the fact that it puts me way behind is in some way a decent protection since my opponents are mainly worried about whats going on on my other opponents board.
My pet bad card is Descend Upon the Sinful :) I love its flavor - its not the best mass removal, but when I cast it, I feel like I punish all the sinful doings :) Plus it depicts Avacyn, my favorite Angel in Magic. I also, like to use Archangel Avacyn (the flip one), in many boros decks.
I remember opening it in a booster and being so happy about it :)
I love dropping havoc festival and watching everybody start sweating immediately
That card ends games so fast
One of my pet "bad cards" is the Wanderer from war of the spark. I love the card, despite the fact that while it can be really good, it often ends up being a four mana exile. But when its passive matters, it's really cool.
+1, super cool card!
I love the random combo it has with Command the Dreadhorde where you can reanimate everything in all players graveyards without taking any damage. I've only done it once, but the joy I felt was immeasurable
@@gerardoramos3179 that is legitimately one of the reasons I run the wanderer. That combo is so good, for such a better mana cost compared to something like rise of the dark realm.
@@nerd2death899 and price 😂 it's a budget build your own rise of the dark realm
It's good in flicker when you can exile 2 or more things a turn
I feel like I’m going to be attacked this whole episode LMAO
Why though?
As a budget player and only proxy advocate in my playgroup, I feel you.
OMG! Only two cards deep at Song of Creation and already like: "I have found my people!" And Doubling Cube? All day long!
They talked a lot about the art for Null Brooch but how did they not talk about how amazing the flavor text is?!
Archfiend of depravity is so fun because no one seems to know what it does even when you've read it. It'll get to your next end phase and they'll say something like "wait, it only affects your opponents?!?"
Painful quandary is another personal favourite or Serra's emissary too.
easily one of the greatest recent episodes of the podcast. love the positive vibes.
Mines gotta be Descent into Avernus. If I'm in red, there's no reason not to play it. Ramps everybody, but you use the mana first! the damage is hilarious and makes games go at lightning speed (but in the "everybody is popping off" way)
I LOVE descent into avernus. It gets wild quick.
Ohh yes I LOVE that card, nothing like setting a nice fire under everyone's asses!
I've got it in 3 decks and have never drawn it 😂
I also play lurking predator in alot of my decks but one of my pet cards is Chaos wand, i love the fact that i can use someone else's resources at a chance of course to disrupt someone else plans and I barely use any of my personal resources to do so. nothing will ever beat countering your opponent's expropriate with their own counter spell, one of my proud achievements with this card
Facts
Doubling Cube can also potentially help fix your mana. If you only have 1 blue available but need 2, and you have plenty of colorless or other colors, you can doubling cube.
Golden Guardian will always be one of my favorite cards. I love when people who have never seen realize that my 4 drop just punched one of my own creatures with the sole purpose of dying and becoming a land XD
More of these videos please!
Song of Creation: added to cart
Repay in kind: already in cart
Berserk: in each stompy deck already, this is a 10/10 that also let's you use it as a removal against other players when they attack someone else!
song of creation is really really really bad hahahaha :D
One of my absolute favorite "bad" cards of all time is Unexpected Results. It's just so fun to play
I like idol of oblivion quite a bit as a card draw engine for most commander decks. Also Cauldron of souls is a great way to protect from board wipes.
I love Idol. My Chatterfang, Ognis, Magda, and Hofri decks all turn it on nearly every single turn. Even getting 2 activations on it feels busted.
That isn't a bad card tbh, it's two mana and easily gets u multiple cards in the right deck.
Rachel introduced me to Pandemonium in a video on Rakdos LORs. It has been so much fun. I’ve both won and lost because of it.
My “bad card” is Havoc Festival. The art is literally 🔥 And it is hilarious everyone freaking out as their life totals get halved one by one and them working out the ideal time to remove it - usually after it gets back round to me. It also speeds up the game a little.
A close third and fourth is Keen Dualist and Protection Racket. Again all good but silly in Rakdos decks.
my pod hates havoc festival, i've been quasi banned from playing it lol
Jordan Pridgen is my spirit animal. Every card he mentioned is in my Omnath, Locus of Mana deck (but I took out Genesis Wave because it took too long to resolve, and it usually resulted in a win.). He has the right mindset. Not infinite mana just a ridiculous amount.
I think Search For Glory is a very underrated card because it can tutor lands, planeswalkers (especially now that they are all legendary), creatures, artifacts, enchantments, you name it. I run it in my Arahbo deck, since it just finds the best cards in my deck like The Great Henge (like the go-to tutor 99% of the time because when do you NOT need ramp or card draw?), Mirri, Jazal, Ajani, Akroma's Memorial, the list goes on.
Can we have a Game Knights episode with Arthur and Rachel as the hosts? I miss that guy he has chill vibes and Rachel is Rachel.
Who?
My favourite in that category is gotta be Glorious End. Red counterspells are mostly unheard of (except for Red Blasts/Deflecting Swat), this is closer to red extra turn effects, where you get the benefit for low mana cost, but have to win or die right after.
Also, it features Ray Swanland art, he is my favourite Magic artist!
Best episode in a really long time! I love the idea of underplayed cards getting the love they deserve!
My pet card and “bad card” I love is Mimic Vat. I try to get that card in every single deck I can!
Mimic vat is awesome!
I love that one! same as mirage mirror, so versatile AND colorless!
Great choice, the vat can lead to such fun and silliness
My favorite “bad” card that I just absolutely put in every white deck is probably lapse of certainty. I fell in love with it after I watched Josh play it and even though it’s a stall I just love when I throw it out and the table just goes 😮
My favorite interaction is when someone asks me what they can do to make their deck better. I tell them cards ABCDEFandG. Then they say they're their pet cards. Well, all the other cards are good so.......
Magma Phoenix!
A (limited) boardwipe on a flying stick, a nuisance for most dragons because it can take a 6/6 with it in combat.
Rattlesnake type card "dare to attack me". Even more in a deck with sac outlets.
Recursive so you always can create a board position (bonus: can help you out when looting or rummaging). Even progresses the game because each time it dies, everyone is taking 3.
And an invincible feeling when equipped with a basilisk collar!
Some of my thoughts, for whatever they are worth:
Doubling Cube: In the new Omnath, it lets you cast an _even bigger Torment of Hailfire_ and I am totally here for it
Song of Creation: Hey guys! Look! I found a way to break Omniscience! But really, this card has the biggest Timmy energy ever and I love it!
Repay in Kind: This card screams "if I'm going down, I'm taking you all with me!"
Mirrorpool: I think- "I'll copy my Genesis Wave/Exsanguinate/Jaya's Immolating Inferno!", JLK thinks- "I'll copy my Mulldrifter!" Craig- "I'll copy my Craterhoof..."
Berserk: One of my favorites, and of course I love Berserk into a "Fling" effect
I love to play Bloodthirsty Blade. Keep the most dangerous creature off of you, while pressuring another opponent is extremely underrated. Also allowing more time for you to set up.
Also: Go Team Galactic Jake! Glad to see another Jelle’s Marble Runs enthusiast.
Yes, I love this card too!
Mine is Predator, Flagship. Clunky as hell, but kind of flexible for blocking and/or removal. Plus I love all things Rathi Overlay.
Thieves auction. Most people scoop when it hits but when it resolves it's souch fun in my blim deck
Mine is spell Swindle. It's a lot of mana for a counterspell but I once used it to stop craterhoof Behemoth and when the player full swung at me that combat I used that mana to Cyclonic Rift my opponents boards. That story and those exceeding low odds of ever happening are why I play it because hey it's not likely "but your saying there is a chance"
Debt to the Deathless is a card EVERYONE tells me to take out, but I can't. I love it too much
Most metal art ever and if your deck can make a decent enough of mana, you might win in the spot.
That card is straight-up underrated. It's basically a better Exsanguinate. The total drain is higher than Exsanguinate's when you spend more than 6 total mana, which is the bare minimum that people spend on Exsanguinate in the first place. Pretty much any deck that has Exsanguinate and access to white should just swap it for Debt to the Deathless imo.
It's a better Exsanguinate
my group calls them "pet" cards, I feel like these cards define a player and show what makes that player unique
26:38 I run lurking predators in my Mayael deck. I also run Cream of the Crop, that heavily cuts down on how random it is when it also lets you search the next 5+ cards fir another creature.
One card I play that I know is not a great rate but I include it in every green deck I can is Krosan Restorer. I love tapping and untapping things and you can do some cool stuff with bounce lands and haste. It also says you can untap any land so someone's maze of ith can get two creatures so you can strike a deal.
10:27 "They could be twice as dead" lol this is why you put a comedian in the chair! I love you Rachel!
I'm twice as dead.
Search for Glory is so good! And Howling Mine is def one of mine. But my big one I always play if it’s U/R is Fevered Visions. It’s just such a good card. Speeds up card draw for 3CMC and punishes your opponents.
Doubling cube is a commander stable, especially if you have a way to make infinite mana because you then use doubling cube to make even more mana
For me, I think it's gotta be Deadbridge Chant. It was played by one of my friends who built a Golgari deck using the Ravnica guild kit, and as soon as I saw it I fell in love with it and took me years to finally get together a Golgari deck of my own just to play it. The big mill to enable my graveyard shenanigans and the pay off of random card regrowth/reanimation adds a fun mini game to my upkeep. It is the first card I tutour for whenever I get the chance
Blinding Powder is easily my favorite "bad card", merely because I can go "POCKET SAND!!!" when people go to attack.
Explorer's Scope. I know it is not the best card but I love to run it on my Yuriko deck. I am going to attack every turn, it cleans my top and ramps whenever I find a land on top of my deck for a very cheap cost. It is a bit more casual friendly than a full optimized Yuriko and it has come in clutch many times
One of my favorite “bad” cards is Teferi’s Puzzle Box. That kind of chaos is worth a loss, and it’s insane in a draw pain decks.
My two are Guided Passage (and similar 'opponent chooses' effects) and Pulsemage Advocate (in Sen Triplets).
Guided Passage makes another player interact with you and think about what they are giving you.
Pulsemage Advocate on the target of Sen Triplets is recursion and 'drawing' three from the opponent's graveyard.
My favorite “bad” card is ebony fly, it becomes a creature and can give your creatures evasion and when its not doing that its a 2 mana rock!
Doubling Cube with the new Omnath, Locus of all?
Mine is Feed the Clan. I run it in Kalamax, where the floor is gaining 20 life for 2 mana, and the ceiling is way higher. It does nothing for the overall strategy of the deck, it's just an instant that's fun.
The Howling Mine explanation is a good point. Perhaps it would be fun to have a Commander game with a stack of cards full of global effects in the middle - much like Planechase - and then you just flip a few of those. Could be a Howling Mine (Dictate of Kruphix), or something that doubles mana for everyone (Dictate of Karametra), or doubles damage (Dictate of the Twin Gods), etc.
One of my favorite bad cards to play is Spectral Searchlight. It’s been power crept out of being a good card but I like holding it open as a bargaining chip for when an opponent goes “…if I had one more mana…”
Another one is Zoetic Cavern as slow bad ramp. I mainly ran it in red and white decks but have really toned it down. That morph could be anything.
I love playing conjured currency. It rarely helps my decks plan directly, but it is janky removal and leads to loads of fun as it's passed around the table making a mess of everything.
for once I am FULLY with Ladee Danger, Lurking predators is one of my FAVOURITE cards in my Neyith deck
Yeah, if you're playing lots of creatures and your mana curve is high, it's always a banger
My favorite bad card is just cause of flavor. And I put it in all my graveyard strategies deck. It’s “Mortal Kombat” -at the beginning of your upkeep if you have 20 or more creature cards in your graveyard. You win the game.
I love Pandemonium, it was one of the first singles I ever bout back in around 2007. I made a Suspend deck with multiple upkeeps via Paradox Haze, then used Chronazoa to double every turn- then dropped the Pandemonium for damage.
A card I fell in love with the moment I saw it was Prosperous Partnership. It's borderline inefficient (3 mana to cast, makes 2 tokens so need a third creature, etc), it's pointless to protect, but if left unchecked can literally win games. 3 mana, use the random utility creatures I don't want to attack with to make treasures! Easily my favorite new card from 2022. Not the most optimal card, but if I am in Boros+ and playing creatures, it's going in there!
howling mine! finaly pulled it from dominaria remastered. when that cards out it makes so much crazy things go on. love it😊
I love this “series” and seeing the command zone cast’s opinions on random cards.
They should totally just do a part 2 for both. There’s just so much to talk about
I card I really like to play that I also consider "Bad" is Magmatic Force. I love it when it's cheated into play and it's a huge threat when it's on the board, just blasting something each upkeep is so sweet. But it's a little expensive for the effect at eight mana. I was ramping into it in my gruul ramp deck and I remember thinking "This seems a little steep."
I love Oath of Lieges in a big mana White deck for very similar reasons to Murph on Howling Mine. It helps mono W decks accelerate, which isn't something the colour has historically done, but it also normalises the game for anyone not playing Green where we all get to leach off of the big mana Green player.
Thanks for the awesome episode!! For some reason I just really like the Cartouche cycle of auras from Amonkhet, even though they all do things that can be done much better with an instant. But they're so pretty!! Cartouche of Zeal is the one I keep talking myself into, cuz it's just one red to get a blocker out of the way and give something haste ...at sorcery speed. But look at that shiny ruby!
Standstill
it feels more like a mini game you play during the game. either the game gets slowed down, but everyone gets to draw cards and dump some lands. And when somebody is like "i dont care anymore", all the other players get to draw 3 cards each.
Normally, the player who triggered it, regrets their decision. It's so fun.
Champion of Stray Souls in my Sidisi, Brood Tyrant deck. Pulling off it's ability, sacrificing a bunch of tokens to pull out all my creature cards always makes people go, Dayum! That's sweet. I've won several times with it and it's always fun.
A couple of enchantments...
1. Planar Chaos: for a random little mini game, and the art is crazy!
2. Ritual of Subdual: shuts off mana. I once won a game with 1 forest, a few elves, and single chromatic star!
Years later...I married that opponent!
I love Search for Glory! My bad cards are probably Pull from eternity, riftsweeper, and End-raze Forerunners. pull from eternity is fantastic when my Avacyn, Angel of Hope gets exiled or for when people suspend a powerful spell. Riftsweeper same thing. End-Raze Forerunners is worse than Craterhoof but I like it cause it more fair and makes it feel like I earned the win more.
Infinite Reflection comes to mind for me. 6 mana is a lot and you're up against the legendary rule but you can do some wacky stuff with this card. For example, Relentless Rats + Infinite Reflection + Jon Irenicus makes for a grand time.
I'm also a huge fan of Cloudshift for protection and Thalia's Lancers to go find all those juicy legendary cards we put in our edh decks. Now that I think about it, I also used to run Soramaro, First to Dream in a landfall deck to help with landfall triggers.
Honestly I love running bedlam. It is so much fun for everyone to just start slugging and throwing hands with no concern for their own safety lol.
I love this discussion topic. At my LGS, I had some people grow to fear the card Compulsion (look it up, it's not great). I love taking personal favorites and making them work
I run Fractured Loyalty in my Niv-Mizzet Parun deck. It’s a two mana aura that enchants a creature and then when enchanted creature is targeted by a spell or ability, the controller of that spell or ability gains control of enchanted creature. I love putting it on the biggest thing on the table and watch everyone fight for control of it. Then when it gets to my turn, I draw for turn, deal one damage to it with Niv-Mizzet, and take it for myself. Until I pass turn of course, and the fun begins all over again! 😊
I have a huge soft spot for lurking predators. That mainly comes from when I was in a game and my buddy basically tapped out to cast their ur dragon and it was their last chance to try and win since they basically had nothing but maybe the draw off the dragons attack trigger would give them a chance. My lurking predators triggers and what do I flip but a draining whelk. After the initial salt subsided he did admit that it was a pretty funny thing to flip
I'd love to see an episode on the different gameplay options within commander. Like 2v2, archenemy, secret roles, planar chase. 4 player free for all is the default but I'd love to see the other options get some love too. And the more people who know they exist, the better
I like playing with tasseled dromedary, honestly a comical card that no one uses, but it’s my comical card that no one uses, and it’s also funny because I have had it attack in a critical point in the game, and it was good!
One of my first magic packs I have ever opened I got a foil Firey Emancipation and fell in love ever since. The problem is it cost 6 mana and does nothing on its own and draws a lot of hate towards it immediately. I have plans to make a Dragon's Approach deck and I am putting it in hoping for my chance to get 27 damage across the board with one Dragon's Approach.
One card I love that is definitely a win more card is nyxbloom ancient. 7 mana for triple mana is just so over the top
Love me some Surveyor Scope. Play it in most boros and some mono-red as a way of catch-up and ramp. Useless in green but I still love having it in other decks
I play Mirriorpool in my Glissa, the traitor deck. Since it is mostly artifact creatures I can play a lot of colourless utility lands and combine artifact recursion with greens land recursion.
The Great Aurora is mine, a board "sweeper" in green that barely triggers anything on the board and usually puts you way out ahead if your deck is meant to create a lot of permanents. I run it in Halsin/Urchin tokens!
Mine are storage lands and the ally eggs.
Theres just something so comfy about cards that "bank" mana that even though I have better cards I could play I can't resist playing these where I can.
I love mirrorpool! I play it in My Trostani, Selesnya’s voice deck to make a token of my big creatures to populate. Usually grab it from the deck with Ulvenwald Hydra.
Personally, I like howling mine. The way I use it in a way where it exclusively benefits me is pairing it with Karn, Living Legacy, as I can tap it to deal damage as well as prevent my opponents from drawing additional cards, so I am more likely to draw what I need to ramp, inflate, and destroy lol. For those who might be wondering, I use it in a blue-red-black artifacts deck :)
For me, it's the first Mythic I ever opened, at my first Pre-Release event, that became my first EDH deck: Aurelia, the Warleader.
It's been over 10 years now and, while I've revamped and rebuilt the deck numerous times, it's never been any good. Yet I continue to play it despite how much it under performs.
I run Search for Glory in my budget Dihada Legendaries deck. It puts in some work, tons of options to pluck out an answer. Table doesn't feel bad as its an "expensive" tutor.
I love Fiery Gambit. I have it in my Burn deck. Succeed 3 coin flips (or dice rolls) and it lightning bolts something, deals a bunch of damage, and you untap your lands.
Miss a flip, and it does nothing. It's so stupid, and amazing when it actually works.
Keen Duelist, it is slow and low impact card advantage that really blows up in your face when someone flips a high cmc card. But it is SO fun in those moments before you flip! Especially if one or both of you are low hp. Plus added political bonus potential.
Doubling Cube is actually pretty decent in colorless decks, that tend to ramp aggressively using artifacts, and are able to generate huge amounts of mana to cast Eldrazi, high cost artifacts, and so on.
Doubling cube is great when you have a way to untap it a bunch.
I’m thinking Maze of Ith. It’s a land that cannot tap for mana; If you are Arch-enemy, it’s not going to help much when everyone is attacking you… but I still love it. I began playing MTG when The Dark was released…
Jester's Cap - for pure nostalgia. My brother would "Cap" me all the time back in the day and I would hate it. Now, I associate that card with him and it reminds me of my youth and the fun times we had as kids. I also just love looking through decks and seeing players deck designs, and this lets me do it and have fun talking about their deck with them.
Null Brooch is VERY good in a colorless EDH deck, have played in Karn, Silver Golem and Traxos, Scourge of Kroog - even better with Bottled Cloister + Unwinding Clock, counter a spell every turn to protect your board-state from Cyclonic Rift, Vandalblast, etc.
The first modern deck I ever made, like 10 years ago, was upwelling doubling cube burn. Turn 3 wins pretty consistently at the time
I have recently added back lightning bolt into all of my red decks, for the sake of bolting a player and killing them with it. I know it’s not optimal, but the moment will be worth it in spades.
Mayael was my first commander! I foiled it out and its getting buried with me. Glad Mrs. Danger is still rocking her as a commander too.
Nettlevine Blight is a classic card of mine. It's a high costing card but it's fun to see the struggle that the player has when they have to attach it to something else that they own. Is it bad? yes. Do I care? nope haha
Definitely agree with Murph on Howling Mine, but I also like to run cards like Inspiring Statuary, Ghirapur Aether Grid, or Relic Barrier alongside it to have a way to shut off the card draw for my opponents and bask in the singular glory of being the only player drawing two cards per turn.
demonic consultation, in the tutor slot. 10/10 competes with decks using demonic tutor, and forces you to use it when the end is in sight for better or worse, so not a huge risk of accidental decking