Wilbur Soot Situation Updates (WSS Updates)
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2024
- For all those who have said this is biased, this is information on both Shubble and Wilbur that I've gathered. Yes, there is more information on Shubble because most information on Wilbur has already been released.
Tommy's video where you can ALLEGEDLY hear Wilbur in the background: • bye, bye
Feel free to discuss in the comments! Just please refrain from harmful language/stay respectful This situation is VERY complicated, where each side is not fully innocent. I personally are on WSS's side because of the evidence against Shubble RIGHT NOW. There are multiple things still to be uncovered and I just wish the best for all of the people involved.
ALSO:
I'm not trying to convince anyone. I believe WSS's side of the story, yes, but this is only to spread information that I've seen. On both Shubble and Wilbur. Most of this is just information I've found on Shubble. I will not hesitate to add information I've found on Wilbur. Good or bad.
LUV Y'ALL :)
Summary: everybody in this situation sucks balls.
how the hell does shubble "suck balls" ?? i can assure you she is NOT as bad as an abuser
my daughter is dead
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@Cork9133 I'm so sorry for your loss..
@@cork9133 I'm so sorry to hear that, comrade. I hope things get better for you.
children deleting themselves??????? what is wrong with people these days
Q lot of people were saved by Will's content, so, it worked other way around
Tbh now that i think about it, Alice's didn't really make sense when she said she dated Wilbur during pandemic (?)
For Tommyinnit's video to leave tour for America i didn't realize Wilbur's voice coukd be heard in the background but i will look into that
I am seriously disappointed in both parts in this story, both wilbur and Shelby are in the wrong. But most of my disappointment goes out to the supporters that tell KIDS to D1E, it’s messed up on so many levels.
Agreed.
@@Gamer_Twin4 didnt wilbur openly say that he did do it on twitter
@@bonziforest52 he didn't actually
@@luna8553 he literally did
@@samzenek that was an statement of his side that he was sorry for it and that he didn't mean it and he thought that it was consent one and that's about it
He never admit to the ab*se js the biting
At this point I dont know anymore. also can someoen give me a time stamp were the video maker states you can hear wilbur in tommys "going to america video"? because I watched the whole video and didnt hear anyone but tommy (obv.)
honestly the most in depth description. thanks for the info :D
ur welcome :) 🥰
I had a bad feeling about Shelby ever since this drama started
thats not a flex babe
and she ended up being a groomer
@@kaiiiww girl where r u gettin ur info from ur just in denial cause ur fav ended up being a useless abuser
@@efrin1778 I’m not flexing. Please leave me alone.
Glad i wasnt the only one
this feels like Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard all over again...
It's that....
GeorgeNotFound was proven innocent.
Alex Krister was proven innocent.
Dream was proven innocent.
what are the odds that Wilbur won't be proven innocent?
Gen Z Edition!
Y'all dumb as fuck. Johnny Depp isn't innocent LMAO.
I agree
prolly the most explanatory description on the drama so far /pos
thx!
Shelby has taken so many people down just so that she could get followers and then forget about it all after she has done so
I was a big fan of Wilbur (still listen to some of his music here and there cause I still do like it a a bit) and people would be like “oh.. you like Wilbur soot?” And at the time I wasn’t aware, but they quickly and kinda aggressively informed me that he’s a bad person and that I shouldn’t listen to his music other wise they wouldn’t be hanging around me. Had to stop talking about him and had gone to one of his concerts. I don’t regret it. I just wished my friends were less aggressive and threatening. They told me others would be “much more hateful and aggressive” which I did not believe. So yea, that’s my story. Don’t let people tell you who to like and who not to. Weather it’s a real friend or a famous person, they don’t have a say in who you hang out with. Don’t be scared to set boundaries. Have a great day.
WHY DOESN'T THIS HAVE MORE VIEWS THIS TOO UNDER RATED
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When i first heard about it, i took a neutral stance (slightly in the favor of Shelby because she claimed to be a victim) and just hoped that Wilbur wasn't as bad as people were making him out to be, (though i am able to easily accept when a cc i like ends up being a bad person).
I still am not fully on Wilbur's side as I lack information and evidence, but I've seen a lot of stuff about Shelby not being such a good person, and most of her supporters (that ive seen) are extremely toxic. And the arguments made in Wilbur's favor are usually alot more logical and kind than the opposing side.
I hope the truth will be confirmed soon. I believe they have both done some bad things, but im not completely sure the extent of those things.
I was in the same situation as you at first. I am personally on WSS's side, but I only try to poke holes in other people's stories and not insert myself much. You can support who you want, I tried to make this summary as un-biased as possible
@@thatalternativechick6265 by 'side' I meant which version of the story I believe. You are entitled to your own opinion and this situation has hurt many people including myself. You are right. This is real life. And people have deleted themselves because of it, me coming close to doing it. I really just want justice to be served to whoever is guilty. Whether that is Shubble or Wilbur.
@@thatalternativechick6265If they are fans of Wilbur or Shelby, they are already involved in this, because they watch their content and see a bunch of videos filled with hate and criticism already exists towards both sides. It would be better if more people make similar videos filled with facts, rather than emotions and baseless accusations, so that people who still adhere to a gray position or have not decided feel more confident and do not do anything to themselves or join the doxers and bullies
@@thatalternativechick6265 asking no one to make videos on this topic is like asking people to stop stealing or stop killing, people always capitalize from drama and the best thing for a viewer to do is to take a back seat, but the best thing for a youtuber to do is to make a video that is as unbiased and informative as possible, because you don't have to "take sides" just to decide what you believe. Personally, I believed shelby from the start, but also felt like it was a very unlikely story. Though I'm not directly claiming it fits in this situation it kinda reminded me of when people would be involved in something they realized near was not to their benefit and decided to blow it out of proportion to complain, feeling that sympathy would be a repayment for what they went through, instead of using it only as an outlet for their true emotions. And while I may be wrong in thinking this is even remotely relevant, it could be a partial factor in the surreal way this whole thing came out that is why I would like to find out more about the situation. Also, the person you replied to is saying they would like more videos like this, and this video had no private information about either people's lives, it was a compilation of the good and bad things that happened after the initial wave of drama and was critical of the people trying to delve deeper than they ought to. Personally, I have taken a back seat to all of this, but I'm allowed to have my opinions, and I assure you I question them as often as new information comes out and I recommend people to do the same
@@thatalternativechick6265THIS.
3 things.
1) You have earned a subscription
2) Thx for the clarification
3) People should share this video. It's probably one of the only non-biased (or at least one of the least-biased) explanations of the situation.
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Wilbur drama has gone too far in my opinion. Doxxing him Leaking child explicit stuff of him Death threats The fact that Shubbles fans drove some to suicide Poor George has made it clear he didn't mean anything bad and the girl was known to lie about her age for drinks.
And Dream was framed.
Sorry boys will probably end.
hey !! thanks for the info
Thank you :)
Feel free to discuss in the comments! Just please refrain from harmful language/stay respectful This situation is VERY complicated, where each side is not fully innocent. I personally are on WSS's side because of the evidence against Shubble RIGHT NOW. There are multiple things still to be uncovered and I just wish the best for all of the people involved.
LUV Y'ALL 💕
ALSO:
I'm not trying to convince anyone. I believe WSS's side of the story, yes, but this is only to spread information that I've seen. On both Shubble and Wilbur. Most of this is just information I've found on Shubble. I will not hesitate to add information I've found on Wilbur. Good or bad.
I also said the wrong thing in the video: His voice is ALLEGEDLY heard in the background of Tommy's leaving for America video
Wilbur drama has gone too far in my opinion. Doxxing him Leaking child explicit stuff of him Death threats The fact that Shubbles fans drove some to suicide Poor George has made it clear he didn't mean anything bad and the girl was known to lie about her age for drinks.
And Dream was framed.
Sorry boys will probably end.
I'm not taking sides. It's like the dream stuff all over again.
Can I be shown as to where wilbur is in the background of Tommy's America video? I've gone through the video multiple times myself and have not seen.
Might I add as respectfully as possible, this seems quite biased... believe what you'd like of course, but in my opinion an informative video should prolly be a bit less biased.... :< (I swear I mean this in the most respectful way possible, I'm not trying to cause issues.)
I would've cared if this was legitimate abuse and not biting kink gone wrong.
You guys really out here defending two privileged people who can easily bring this to court.
Shelby also mentioned in her video on the allegations that mental health isn't an excuse for peoples actions. Bullshit, obv..
She's mentioned that she wasn't very wealthy when she was dating Wilbur and that he never paid for anything like vip tickets or any of his tour tickets. Which is alsi bullshit considering that her tweets recall her being in Japan whilst Wilbur and her were dating (or after im not sure).
Another thing is that Shelby stated that Wilbur locked her in her house, but at that time, he mentioned he was living with his parents.
Hope this helped a little!!
She went to japan a whole year later, after saving up money and doing a modelling job.
And yea total bullshit that umm. Depression isn’t excuse to abuse obv! That’s what psychologists say but u obviously know better than them right?
And she didn’t say he locked her in her house (get ur info right and don’t talk about something YOU DONT KNOW) there is a clip for ash vlog where we hear that he locked her
Mental health isn’t an excuse for people’s actions? Are you alright? It might be an explanation but there is not excuse for abuse
@alicebarr1332 man, you're uneducated. Mental health leads to MANY excuses of peoples actions.
And yes, I'm fine? Idk why you're asking. I'm perfectly stable in what i believe in, and i actually have common sense because i have autism and it leads to sometimes harming others.
Excuse me? As someone who has actually suffered with mental illnesses (im clinically depressed and have PTSD) I had done horrible shit when i was younger and hurt people i cared about but I dont use those things as a crutch because they fucking arent. I made ammends with people by actually seeking help and learning to not hate myself but to understand what i did was wrong regardless of what i was feeling. Your a complete dumbass if you think shit like “i have depression so i can hurt people” is a valid thing to say. We dont coddle people with problems we instead guide them towards responsibility and redemption. Its completely bullshit Wilbur isn’t a child, I went through this shit as a child and I still have worked on myself and continue to do so wilbur ignores his problems and writes songs about them while hiding under a facade of this nice guy making light of bad people when the person whose bad is himself.
hold up I dont hear Wilbur tho in the background?
This has been by far the most in-depth description of everything happening by far. To be honest, I’m kind of surprised no one noticed the bruises and scars and Band-Aids that Wilbur had on all the time during the period that Wilbur and Shelby were dating so I don’t know how this is just now becoming new to people because I would see him with bruises on his nose and Band-Aids and even like I would see cuts or something on his face a bunch I don’t know how people are just noticing it. It’s insane to me. Thanks for all the clarification. You have definitely earned a subscriber and I’m gonna be sharing this video to as many people as I can to try and at least bring some more light to the situation.
Edit: i was just watching jacks video about the race to meat mountain, and theres a scene where the light is hitting wilburs face perfectly to where you can clearly see he has a black eye while shelby looks perfectly fine. I’ll edit again when i find the time in the video.
Edit 2: the scene is at 11:07 for anyone who wants to check it out and confirm for themselves.
Edit 3:my friend brought this up to me but in the race to meat mountain video (called “we drove 1000 miles to eat this burger” for anyone who wants to know), during the scene where they pass by a bait shop, wil says “theres only two things in life, my wife and fishin and one don’t complain”. At first it seems like a joke or a silly remark until you notice shelbys reaction. She pauses for a second and the video cuts to a different scene, meaning something happened after that cut that the others in the video dont want us to see. Given the reaction to wils comment, its a bit obvious that wil is possibly hinting at shelby having some kind of form of anger issues or maybe gets easily irritated, which will (in most cases, dont fact check me) turn people violent. If something bad happened after that cut, then jack should’ve recognized that shelby was lying about wil being the main abuser but instead he immediately took her side without taking into account any prior situations which he was present for. This is just a theory me and a friend came up with so dont take it too seriously but it could be a possibility.
Thank you! :)
@@thatalternativechick6265 I have another video that I am currently editing that is a little more in-depth. Also, you can find the pictures (most of them are deleted off of Shubble's account, at least the ones with Wilbur's bruises) on multiple posts and threads onlie that go into this situation
@@thatalternativechick6265 I doesn't take long after a quick google search.
@@EspeonZap i think its called “we drove 1000 miles to eat this burger”. The cover is ranboo holding a burger filled with all kinds of meats. Its on jack manifold’s original channel. Just search up the name and it should be the first video from jack. The time where you can see the black eye (which shows up multiple times but thats the first time it becomes clearly visible) should be in the second edit of my original comment. Hope this helps friend! 😁
@@EspeonZap your welcome :)
I like how this (sort of) covers both sides in depth. It seems more like stating the facts unbiased, so thanks for making this video.
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Thank you for this video. I hope we'll get a clear answer soon and that both parties will turn out to be okay (I'm scared that Wilbur would 'delete' himself due to the hate and his lack of response)..
I'm scared of that too...
Same, but hopefully he has his family
ive actually got a question! im not disputing this or anything, but id love to have a genuine list of sources somewhere for these claims from anyone! itd be such a pleasure for my nd brain, please and thank you
Hey, hey !! Just saw the video. Thank you for the information
thank you for being not a attacker on both sides iv'e been in some fandom so far and the ones falling apart is welcome home and minecraft at the moment people are at each others throats and it hurts to see a once happy community go down welcome home because of the bad apples making artist leave permanently.....minecraft because people lie for clout or to just get attention...sometimes its intended to spread words...but there can also be lies....(im not trying to sound bad i just dont know how to talk to people without making it sound bad awkward or wrong)
@@thatalternativechick6265 look im trying
not easy being a teenager with the world colasp
@@thatalternativechick6265 if you have nothing nice to tell me then stop talking to me I'm not wasting time arguing on the internet and arguing is meaningless and the owner of the vidio is telling us to not argue and fight so im blocking you because that is also something i strive to avoid.....goodbye
just because biting is a symptom of stress/mental illness doesn’t excuse him biting her against her consent? Also plenty of people who have donated to humanitarian causes still end up being horrible people behind the scenes.
He said that she did consent
And the only bruises we have seen have been on Wilbur and as soon as Shelby says these things she deletes the photos of Wilbur’s bruises. A bit suspicious if you ask me
@@CLH2324or she didn’t want people to hyper fixate on every injury she had an go into her comments like “gasp was this will??!!??! Poor girl 😭😭😢😢😢” god, you can’t just believe a woman
@@bigbadjo6011 bruh, most of the friends I have are women, so your saying I don’t ever believe them?
@@bigbadjo6011 plus, more people would believe her if she showed the bruises. We just need proof, if there was evidence of the bitings I would believe her.
in what timestamp of you hearing Wilbur say bye bye in?
I don't know, I barely hear it
Ok question. Where did you get the information of leaked cp? I haven't heard anything about that and im just wondering if it true. If it is that is extremely f-up and awful even if he is a awful person. Thank you for the update
Do you have a time stamp for when Wilbur was in Tommy’s video in the goodbye America video?
I just want to hear any information from wilbur. To be honest, even just an “Im alive” would be nice to hear
this makes me feel less bad about wanting to go back to listening to/watching Wilbur, I just wish it was one of those things that had a direct answer but I guess not. at this point I just wanna know so I can fully move on or come back- I think I'm trying to stay neutral right now but it's hard because I feel biased having been a pretty big Wilbur fan and almost never seeing anything from Shelby. idk anymore
thank you for putting the information all in one video, this whole thing is a mess lol. just a question though where can i find the information from shelby's cousin?
edit: also i watched the video that apparently had wilbur in the background but i couldnt hear him, any idea of when in the video he can be heard?
I say in the description that he is allegedly heard, I only hear someone walking around when I hear the video
@Gamer_Twin4 oh makes sense I thought when people said he could be heard they meant his voice or something
I feel bad for wilbur really. I mean like he was going though a hard time (mental health) and wasn't it around the time technoblade passed (rip king) that it started, he could have just been dealing with that. [Correct me if I'm wrong about the timelines]
@@thatalternativechick6265 I never said it did.
@@thatalternativechick6265 when, I never said anything about the abuse in my comment I was just saying he could have been going through something I never said it was right or wrong
@@thatalternativechick6265everyone knows that. its about empathy because yes what he did was shitty asf but he didnt wake up and feel like being abusive one day, he was going through some shit himself and this is probably why he did these things. still shitty but cut the mf a sliver of slack is what they mean. if you dont care about his view whatever u do u literally no one cares but dont hop on random ppls asses who feel bad for him being all passive aggressive n shit xx
@@z.ephyrr fr what I was explaining, thank you
Where can you hear Wilbur in the leaving for America video?
If you isolate the actions and opinions of fans from most of this video, it doesn’t really come down to much. Bare bones, shubble sent out a statement, wilbur acknowledged it, admitted most of it and denied some, but did little to apologize or give any proof of his side of things. He hasn’t given anyone any proof of his innocence. He has one statement with zero proof and no follow up. Me personally, I’m going to believe shubble. If you say you “had a bad feeling about her from the start” or “were partial to wilbur because he wouldn’t do it” you are biased. Admit it, and move the fuck on. I was a long time fan of wilbur, i watchex every video, i had every song liked and downloaded on spotify, i was dedicated. But he has given me zero reason to support him moving forward, and i’m not going to use my parasocial relationship with him as a reason to continue supporting someone who has more than likely hurt the girls who came out. Goddamn.
this!!
preach
finally someone with sense
I read the what willbur said and it was him sorry for being a shit bf not abusing her
It was blow way out and I still stand by the fact shubble fan are toxic people who spend pc of wilbur they and her have lost all my respect and people who know wil5for year just turn there back on him are more toxic wilbur madd the polt to dsmp he started and now the kid who hod famous from it and were his friends hate him?
@@alicatfelix5144 Okay, full transparency I could barely read that so if I messed up the info mb, but again, this is like zero proof or argument?? Like idrc if you don’t like shubbles fans or the content creators that publicly shat on him. Thats not even what my comment was about dude. Like i’m sorry if you just needed a vent post about how sad you are that wilbur sucks, but i cant help you of your gonna be delusional
What’s the source and stuff for the photos you mentioned of Wil at 0:59??? I’ve never heard about that what??
you can find the pictures (most of them are deleted off of Shubble's account, at least the ones with Wilbur's bruises) on multiple posts and threads onlie that go into this situation
Also the video on Ranboo's channel called 'we drove 1000 miles to eat this burger' where you can see Wilbur with a black eye multiple times
@@Gamer_Twin4 would you be able to link me to any threads or anything? I don’t have Twitter lol
@@NavyNyoom Here is a post:
twitter.com/UltraViole74456/status/1768481314410242442
And here is a website:
www.sportskeeda.com/esports/the-entire-wilbur-soot-shelby-shubble-controversy-explained
Sry I couldn't find a thread and I also had about five other posts about his bruises I couldn't find
@@Gamer_Twin4 thank you!! I meant more about the ones of him as a kid tho, that’s the thing I hadn’t heard about
Are the replacing letters with numbers and symbols thing intentional or something?
Censoring of words CZcams doesn't like everyone dose it
To address one point in the video: Alice stated that Wilbur wanted to keep their relationship a secret, so Shubble probably had no clue, thus she said Wilbur hadn't dated anyone in five years prior to their relationship, cause that's probably what she was told
Can you link the tommy's video please?
Tommy's video? Did he make a video on this?
Pretty sure this person is referring to the tommyinnit video where you can hear Wilbur in the background.
@@Emelynnsey Oh... Ok :)
@@Gamer_Twin4 soo.... Can you link it please?
@@alloust2907it’s in the description
Saw this video in my recommended- and I usually don't comment on drama but I'll leave one here.
I've kind of forgotten about the whole situation to be honest, so this was a good fresh reminder. It was honestly nice to see info about Shelby, instead of WIlbur as I have heard nothing about her so it's pretty one-sided.
I'm still on the fence about everything as I don't really know the full extent of the situation still- and with the rampant increase of Content Creator's getting false allegations, I think it's just a sign to wait for everything to come out and then make a decision. Happened with Dream and George, and from their situations they seem to be innocent.
I've read a ton of comments in this video aswell, and it initially made me afraid to comment my own opinion as I still realistically don't know, what to think, since not everything has been out yet. But I will say, this video does come off as bias, but its because most of the information is about Shubble (Which makes sense). It probably would've been better to put all the information together but I do understand the point of the video!
Anyway, I just hope Wilbur will come out with some response better than the half-baked one he did on twitter. But only time will tell.
Great video though! Hope some of the more "nasty" comments aren't getting to ya.
Thank you so much, that really means a lot, I have a video that I'm working on that goes into it a bit more and talks about the information on Wilbur, this was to just put it out there and to inform.
When was Wilbur's voice heard? I can't seem to find it.
And if he wasn't in the video, all I have to say is, some 'fans' will come up here and say this whole video is Yap and use the "Wilbur is in Tommy's video" as a backup statement to said Yap.
I said the wrong thing in the video: His voice is ALLEGEDLY heard in the background of Tommy's leaving for America video
(Not) fun fact, I have my business e-mail in my bio and I’m a wilbur supporter. Someone has sent me child pictures of (seemingly) wilbur (disgusting ones) and captioned them “this is who you support?” to my work email. I am a minor. This situation has seriously affected my mental health, and at first when I head these pictures were being sent I didn’t think much of it. However, I realised just how sick these people were when I actually got them myself. Most people who watch either shubble or wilbur are minors, some even as young as 12 or under. This is getting out of hand.
man i'm so sorry for that. i'm a minor too, and although i'm neutral on the situation (more on shubble's side though if i'm being honest), doing this is absolutely not okay. people hate on wilbur cuz they believe he's an abuser, but sending cp/gore and dts to his supporters, a lot of which are minors that can be easily affected, doesn’t make them any better, at all. what's worse is a lot of the ppl sending such things are fully grown adults :/ i hope you're feeling better now btw
In my opinion Wilbur was dealing with a lot of psychological problems like depression and probably narcissism. As you mentioned he had past trauma and a psychologist that reacted to the situation said that he might have clinical depression. And he is an upcoming artist, rich, famous and has/ had fans that would literally die for him or die to get with him which might’ve made him develop an ego.
Hi!! Idk if I forgot to read some of it because I get distracted a lot but Shelby removed some posts on her insta that involved bruises on Wilbur :)
Oh, thanks! Feel free to use the comments to discuss the situation and evidence.
@@Gamer_Twin4 no problem! If you want more info on the situation I suggest Intoxix’s old community posts :)
@@Lully_BuggyVA oh, thx!
@@Gamer_Twin4 no problem! I like your content btw :D
@@Lully_BuggyVA You're too sweet, thank you! 🥰💕
goddammit i honestly had the feeling since the beginning is that there's a good reason to do this, and not just for "fun"
people might hate me for saying this, but after this, i still, idk, trusted wilbur? ofcourse a little less than before (i trusted him with my life) but then his apology came out, i couldnt understand half of it, so i just stopped paying attention to this for a while.
until i saw this, and holyyyyy, wilbur!! his childhood is like torture, thinking about it makes me cry, like i'm actually tearing up a little, and its pretty hard to break me, it only makes sense he would do it
For those people who didnt read that: i understand if you dont, i wouldnt too, so summarized, i dont know who i'm siding with rn, although most likely somewhere in the depths of my brain its wilbur
idc if you hate me!!!!!
@@thatalternativechick6265 Like i said, idc if people hate me, but i respect everyone's opinion
I have nothing to say, I am really surprised by Shelby's immaturity and her victimization
I'm just saying not every thing needs to be on the internet now days
I just hope that everything will go out and calm down but its hard
(Sorry for my bad english,is my second Lenguage)
Just please don't act before thinking its important
where can we hear him in the bg?
okay it wont let me edit the comment so i meant to say WHEN can we hear him in the bg?
I don't know 🤣
Then don't put random stuff up when you yourself don't know where it is
@@systemstress9932 I said the wrong thing in the video: His voice is ALLEGEDLY heard in the background of Tommy's leaving for America video
1:42 YEA for the biting is caused by a mental issue, biting can actually be a way autistic people show affection! i have autism and i actually bite my freinds to show affection cos i dont rlly like hugs (i only like hugs from a few ppl
Shelby shouldn't be apologizing for her supporters actions quite honestly. And im not saying that her supporters are angels, they all deserved shame and should stay off the internet and im trying to say this without being over aggressive to them bc though they deserve it, ill be no better than their actions, but Shelby's not responsible for whatever goes on in her supporters head. She doesn't even have the power to make them stop unfortunately, but i hope she spoke out about it at some point bc telling kids to delete themselves for their own opinion is literally cyberbullying and Shelby won't be better than Wilbur for letting this happen
Im going to be neutral for now until more evidence is reached.
Girl luv u and ur stuff! Excited to see more, congrats on 18 subs! Cant wait 😊
omg thank you! that means so much to me! 💕🥰
@@Gamer_Twin4 No problem 🥰
Also, 51 subs?! Wow! Hope I see you soon 🤫😁
@@ThatWeirdowithnoBrain :)
Wait, Shelby supporters have made up info?? Did they make up Wilbur locking Shelby out of her own house/stealing her keys cause that was my last straw on wilbur
I think they did.
That was made up by them
As far as we know, the only confirm one made by both is the biting.
@@Luciferthekingofpurgitory damn, I feel so silly now for believing it 💀
If this rabbit hole gets any deeper, I will start to experience psychosis 😵💫
I feel you there. 🕳😵💫
Thank you for taking the time to do this, it is much appreciated.
No prob! I hope to be a sort of news person about things happening online and like... kinda snitch on youtuber drama? /hj
@@Gamer_Twin4 haha, considering I’m always 3 years behind on anything important I’m all for it.
I'm going to be honest I support Wilbur Soot. Nothing will change my mind. I see this as more proof Shubble is lying and that I know people would probably hate on this comment and tell me to delete it. Not to mention I have seen things like this happen in real life and from watching true crime. Shubble seems to be lying about everything she says. Btw new sub!
"Seems to be lying about everything" keyword seems ans you're way to quick to pick and choose.
Hey I don’t agree with domestic abuse and I do understand that Will has had problems with mental health it’s still not much of an excuse the second allegation seems to have a lot of flaws and may be fake (I am very sorry if I’m wrong and yet again I do not support or defend sexual harassment or domestic abuse) this may just be someone trying to get a bit of fame the information I’ve seen here supports my theory and I can just wish Will the best for his future and I hope he can become a better person and I hope that those affected are ok I’m just saying this as I am worried about Wills mental health as this may decline and force him to… I’m not going to say it and I don’t want to think about it but is this does turn out to work in Wilbur’s way I doubt he will be coming back as he will have a lot of hate towards him and I just want to show my support for everyone
Since the start this controversy felt off to me.
Like the biting does sound pretty bad and he’s wrong for that but it certainly never sounded as if he was abusive or wanted to abuse her.
I think Wilbur is simply just a very mentally ill individual who needs to take some serious time to ponder and work on himself. I don’t think he’s a terrible person but he’s certainly not been good to some, like see Nihachu’s small response on the situation, she doesn’t even have to talk for you to understand what she wants to say.
Biting to the point it leaves bruises is abuse especially when you don't stop at a safe word let alone multiple conversations shubble was being injured by her boyfriend that is abuse and mental health does not excuse abuse of any kind
Okay, if you’re in a relationship and your partner is continuously leaving marks on your body, it’s abuse. If he punches you hard enough, it’s abuse. If he kicks you hard enough, it’s abuse. If he bit her hard enough to bruise, non consensually, knowing it was causing her emotional strain, it’s abuse.
There's no evidence to support anyone's claims, this is Twitter drama. If you think there's evidence link it, I haven't found anything to support Shelby's 'testimony', innocent until proven guilty. And if you guys actually read Wilbur's apology it's not that bad, READ it.
Seriously Shelby !?
That was my reaction
What has Shelby done wrong only one who have done had is wilbur and some shubble supporters
@@Leighann-ru7ko If you are going to argue in my comments I will remove your messages. I have already asked for everyone to stay respectful in their opinions.
Thx!
@@Gamer_Twin4 I understand that but I have not argued I just asked a question what has Shelby done wrong
@@Leighann-ru7ko She hasn't stopped people from sending death threats, she has said some really strange things about the Caitibuggz situation like how you should basically baby 18 yr olds when 18 yr olds are LEGALLY ADULTS.
Also, she has blocked at least two people who were bullied/d0xxed for supporting wilbur.
personally i'm not on either side. i mean, innocent until proven guilty, right? i do believe, however, that both of them have done bad things and this situation could have been handled far more maturely. ESPECIALLY by followers of either side. children deleting themselves, death threats, doxxing, and things of that nature are completely unacceptable. doesn't matter from who. this entire situation is just so utterly fucked and i wish the best for everyone as of right now.
and thank you so much for all this information and for not being too bias in the explanation. Even tho you do support wilbur, you kept the video informative and mostly kept bias out of it which i cannot say how important that is.
anyway, luv ya!!
and you've gained a sub as well:)
Thank you so much! I personally have gotten hate comments and slurs thrown at me for supporting Wilbur and it is unacceptable. I'm glad you were able to find this informative.
I think the communitys response is also a factor that made me rely dislike shelby and be a non supporter
@@Gamer_Twin4 shelby is super sensitive to even the smallest bit of skepticism, but doesn't bate an eye when people are being sycotic trying to defend her
can you add evidence? I dont wanna blindly believe anything, however i have a bit of hope now.
From just watching this video and not doing any research I can already tell you that shubble has stated to not send any death threats and to just block and not argue
If you look at both the SSS and WSS documents that's where I got most of my evidence. Also some of SSS member's tweets.
@@Gamer_Twin4 ty :D
@@VioletReign7249 no prob :)
@@VioletReign7249 (sry it took me so long to respond)
Talking about bruises: Shelby has many photos from that time when she was wearing clothes that uncovered almost whole body and there was no bruises unlike Will who is seems to have bruises and other violence signs only on photos from time when he was with shelby,never before or after, and shelby deleted all this photos when you can see Wilburs bruises.
Maybe they just had a super kinky relationship where they bit eachother and shelby was ashamed and projected onto wilbur
There's no photos of wilbur with bruises if you have any tell me where to see and second there's a thing called Photoshop she isn't stupid she wouldn't post her bruises for the world to see
HAAAAAH MY GIRLFIRENDS SOMEONE WHO WAS TOLD IN S CALLOUT TO OFF
Wow so part of your argument literally boils down to “he did good things in the past” with the wilbur “caring for his fans argument” you do realize that horrible people can still pretend to be good people right? Also most of the things listed there are standard “good youtuber” actions that don’t actually mean anything donating to charity? Literally done by many youtubers and commonly used to hide bad actions hell billonares like elon do it all the damn time. Then you bring up how he was “too stubborn to let others edit” thats not proof he cares about his fans infact its more so proof that hes very controlling and bossy behind the scenes as he insists himself in positions and refuses to let others involve themselves in the creative process. Not to mention none of the things mentioned actually prove he cares about his fans and I hate to break it to ya youtubers DONT care about their fans it’s physically impossible for them to because of the blatant disconnect between the two youtubers dont even know you exist while you are obsessed with them. One key thing “prouducing merch” is not a thing CZcamsrs do because they care about their fans… they do that to earn money off of people like you. Besides him Paying for a disneyland trip doesnt side step abuse, neither does buying water for some people or buying things for friends it doesnt actually equate to being a good person. Money doesnt mean anything its your actions towards people that matter, and willbur has shown time and time again to be a very VERY disturbed and lost person. The other fact is all the evidence you have is mainly based on the actions of “fans” not actual evidence towards the characters of the people involved in the incident, I also havent seen shelby inherently supporting harassment at all shes made tweets discouraging that behavior, the thing is shitty people will do shitty things regardless. Most sane human beings dont condone the harassment of either party however you also cant ignore the blatant abuse willbur has done and the fact that people like nihachu literally had moments where they actually admitted to being a victim of his “serial biting” not to mention he bit tommy and considering he actually finds biting as a somewhat sexual thing it makes it even weirder to have him bite tommy. Will also disrespected boundaries and has an insane streak of controlling behavior which ADDS to the credibility of Shubbles Story. If im going to be completely honest with you it seems you have a blatantly biased favor towards willbur and are looking for excuses to justify supporting him when really hes just a piece of shit that needs serious help. I dont think anyone should be hurt but willbur shouldnt have hurt anyone either. Another concern here is the blatant almost parasocial behavior of the Willbur fans and many people who support people like dream and Quackity and many other of these big minecraft youtubers. Its a blatantly unhealthy and sad way to live life by being obsessed enough with a person that doesn’t even know you exist and considers you just another number. This is why I like youtubers like markiplier who blatantly make it clear that their audience are just people watching a video nothing more nothing less its just entertainment nothing beyond that. Look I feel like honestly based of your video you must be pretty young and I really hope you consider the option that maybe you need to look at this through a different lens and see more to this rather then what you WANT to think. The truth is its not a “us vs them” situation its a matter of an actual crime committed and a violation of trust. I support shubble because domestic abuse is blatantly not ok and while supporting harassment would be bad if its true that she did such I can understand it more because she still suffered mentally from it and as someone who has grown up around someone abused and a abuser I understand that its easy to hold resentment and want to get back at them it doesnt make it ok but I can empathize with that feeling of anger towards that person and feeling like they deserve the worst, but eventually you gotta learn to forgive that person even after what they did in order to move on. I think she absolutely deserves support in that because shes still likely affected by that and other abusers she has delt with in the past the poor girl needs help.
Shubble has stated that no one shoud be sending death threats she tweeted about it
She said for no one to send death threats to HER, she did not say to not send death threats to anyone else.
@@Gamer_Twin4 she said and I quote "everyone should stop" "I don't want anyone wishing harm on one another" and her opening line was"I have obviously never asked anyone to send death threats on my behalf"
@@Leighann-ru7ko She did, but she only did that after she started getting them. Also, she posted it on her alt account, not her main. If this was as serious as she makes it look, she should've posted on her main account.
Also, her community is HER responsibility. If my viewers and subscribers started sending death threats to someone in MY name. I'M responsible to quickly respond telling them to stop. She released that statement two MONTHS after the original stream.
@@Gamer_Twin4 she released that statement on March 3rd 6 or 7 days after her stream
Hello, I wanted to ask permission to upload this on Tik Tok with credits clearly, since I want to clarify a little on my account
Sure! :)
people debating this "drama" are crazy. your favorite youtuber was accused of abuse and didn't deny any of it. just accept that your parasocial relationship with him was wrong. shelby was HURT. she can't control the actions of her supporters. this entire video feels like it's demonizing her, a VICTIM. god. nothing excuses abuse. NOTHING
this video is so incredibly biased, it's crazy how none of you people see that
@@mooonblooom I believe that both parties are not fully innocent. Wilbur definitely bit Shubble. That is confirmed, but that is one of the ONLY things confirmed. The fact of Wilbur locking Shubble inside the apartment is unconfirmed, the fact that he made Shubble clean his apartment is unconfirmed. Most of the information about Wilbur is already out, but there isn't much information on Shubble, so I did some digging to try to see the full picture, and I found the information in the video. The only reason it seems biased is because it mostly focuses on Shubble, because not much information on her is widely known. I personally believe WSS's side of the story right now. But I tried my absolute hardest to make this as unbiased as possible and I keep. Getting. Comments. Saying that it's biased. Y'all I tried. I really did. But I'm tired of this bullshit. A fatal flaw of mine is that I just want the world to be happy by any means. And sometimes I just wish justice to be served. So let Satan himself drag me down for trying to have justice be served so we can all sleep.
@@Gamer_Twin4 ur not biased, ur based
You clearly don't know how shubble made fun of mental health and liked death threats to wilbur, but she got caught and removed it.
I posted this on Twitter/X so that people know the facts, good job making this. I am proud that people have had a good heart like you.
[ATTENTION] You also forgot to talk about how Wilbur had bruises and was pale during the relationship
I would like to say If the bruise you are talking about on his eye is not a bruise there's nothing there and second he's from Britain it isn't sunny it's not uncommon to be pale
@@Leighann-ru7ko He was way more pale than he should’ve been, and the bruises were on other areas like his arms
@@Leighann-ru7ko after the relationship he went back to normal
Oops! Sorry! I need to go back through anyways because of all the good points y'all have pointed out anyway 🤣
@@AceWhitlock_1one, wilbur is pale af and a white boy, additionally theres something to be said about lighting, location, etc. he could’ve even been sick. Two, wilbur soot is autistic. I don’t know how much you know about autism, but a common trait with that is bruising easy. Proprioception is the bodies ability to sense movement, action and location. In other words spacial awareness. People with autism often lack it and run into things very frequently. This is a reasonably logical explanation for this. Now, if you think this comment is a reach, take some time for self reflection. I just did a massive reach based off of his belief he might be. You just did a massive reach because a photo or two had bruises. Touch some fucking grass instead of graspikg at straws to see innocence where there isn’t.
least obvious wilbur upload
I'm sorry? What do you mean?
@@Gamer_Twin4 least obvious wilbur upload denial
@@Gamer_Twin4I think there's no point in trying to convince anyone to change sides. Shelby's worshippers and Wilbur's worshippers have already decided what is true for them and who is right and who is to blame will be decided in the end. If only it would end soon.
@@user-qv9vb8wr1h I'm not trying to convince anyone. I believe WSS's side of the story, yes, but this is only to spread information that I've seen. On both Shubble and Wilbur. Most of this is just information I've found on Shubble. I will not hesitate to add information I've found on Wilbur. Good or bad.
@@Gamer_Twin4 Thank you for that
#wilbursupportsquad
#wilbursupportsquad
@@thatalternativechick6265 I made this video as updates and *possible* evidence. That does not mean that I am totally unbiased as I have come to a personal opinion but I have tried to make the video as unbiased as possible.
get a job
how old do you think I am?
what the sigma
This is so weird. I feel like everyone is being targeted in the dsmp and mcyt community.
Dang wheres that one youtuber that shortens this video to twenty seconds
It’s two minutes brother
Is no one going to talk about the fact that depression or any mental illness is not an excuse for abusing a partner? Stop blindly supporting an abuser (or alleged abuser if you prefer to say that). You are not involved in the situation, you don’t know these people, stay out of it and stop spouting absolute waffle
I'm not taking sides but you saying that people are not involved in the situation and we do not know these people yes that's true but if we do not know these people and we do not know how the situation happened then it should have been private not on the internet
@@thatalternativechick6265 go touch grass with this dumb take
@@thatalternativechick6265 what dumb take you made you just prove my point if we don't know these people and we don't know what happened then it shouldn't be public
When ever is see people say will should be in jail or is going to jail are stupid if shelby had actual evidence then she would have gone to cort first but insted she went live, and if dhe wanted coincidences then she would have use his name, and by not useing his name is a ploy to make her seem more inasint even thou she encoreged people telling him to kill him self and people still say she an inacent little angel, I truly believe that most of the people that sport her are just prjecting their own experiences on to her or just following the crowd, I personally like jacks response he said that he has never know willbur as the type to do that sort of thing(may not be exact wording) and the real kick in the pants for me that made me not suport shelby is the communitys response to it when I see stuff that say shelby is the victim I always think "this shit wouldn't fly in Cort". P.s. when this all first went down will just moved to America, as stated is a phiza stream
I kinda knew that something like this would happen but oh well the damage has already have been done I guess, but jeez I feel bad for the kids who where told to off themselves mostly for the two that did.
Tbh, I never liked Shelby. She only ‘exposed’ Wilbur to get followers/subscribers bc she’s been a CZcamsr for 10 years and didn’t get 1 Mil as fast as she hoped she would. Shelby is a liar.
apparently she did this to two other of her exes but i am not sure if that's true or not since i stay away from twitter.
@@meisucksatlife8837 it is true. She said they also abused her I think and the info came out as wrong or somth. So I don’t like Shelby and I don’t believe her. I’m staying on Wilbur’s side :3
@@Someone_unhumanthe only two exes she had online was speedy and Orion sound (she accused them but they are still friends and post pics and vids together wow)
@@luvwsl bc they forgave her. They had an open relationship with Shelby while Wilbur doesn’t. Wilbur liked to keep things more private and Shelby used that to her advantage to say Wilbur abused her.
@@Someone_unhuman what is it with Wilbur Fans making stuff up? Her relationship with the orion sound was not public nor the breakup, they revealed it years later, and so is her relationship with speedy, they only revealed it because fans pressured them to
This is Amber heard and Johnny Depp
I feel bad for both of them😭
Like poor Shelby, she got bit!💀
But also poor Wilbur, his family didn’t love him and he prob has trauma and depression-
No, I don’t support Wilbur, but I do want to know what’s gonna happen to him lol
He still bit people, not even just Shubble. Plus, it’s a common narcissist tactic to do things to look real good and charitable.
Biting wasn’t even the abuse Shelby was mad that he bit too hard and left bruises which have been disproven
@@luvwsl people went to her old live streams and pictures from when the abuse happened since Shelby always wears very revealing clothing people simply looked at her arms hands and legs for bruises makeup or edited parts of her body and no one could find it then people went to pictures of Wilbur with Shelby and it was found he had a lot of bruises on him I believe the hands and neck specifically
@@luvwsl notice how I said people and not me, jack the info I have is what I have been told due to it being difficult finding info
But Shelby has lied several times during this including her response to why she won’t go to court which every claim has been disproven which brings her validity into question her contradictory statements her straight up lies like there being mountains of evidence that William gold is an abuser
Along with the fact she’s done this twice before I believe to a yt named parkerzgaming and a seperate boyfriend I don’t have the name of currently.
Now I’m going to be more specific
Shelby shubble or Shelby as I will refer to her made the claim that an ex British boyfriend of hers abused her accusations of it being William gold started and he later replied “ yes I’m the boyfriend she’s talking about but I’m not an abuser”
Shelby shubble in the past has done this before to 2 boyfriends however it was long before she was the decently large content creator she is today and only she made content on it which she later deleted. Anyway Shelby shubbles can base started sending death threats along with doxxing and spreading false information a majority of his friends staying neutral and saying to just support Shelby due to William golds radio silence several woman came out about their abuse stories from William gold a majority of them being disproven this is when people started looking into what actually happened and a third party shelbys cousin made a tweet saying that they were Shelby’s cousin and heard Shelby and William gold arguing while William gold was calm Shelby was apparently very angry. ( I know they said more but I don’t remember it so I won’t say it)
Shelby shubble denies that this person is their cousin which cannot be verified because sc has reason to lie and Shelby has reason to lie and neither has put out proof people started asking Shelby questions like “ why didn’t you go to the police or why didn’t your friends say anything because you said this” a majority of those people got blocked and banned by Shelby the few who Shelby replied to she lied to making false reasons that were later disproven ( I’m not gonna talk much on the next part because it triggers trauma hard) 4 children were sent constant death threats and messages telling them to kys eventually 2 of them did and the state of the other 2 are still unknown ( as far as I know pls tell me if you found out what happened to the other 2) Shelby proceeded to deny that children died talked about how trauma and depression weren’t excuses even though she used trauma and depression as excuses a contradictory claim Wilbur said he has evidence but refuses to post it for Shelby’s privacy and Shelby has proof that she hasn’t shown. ( sorry if there is a lack of periods or commas or a lot of spelling mistakes I’m extremely exhausted)
@@luvwsl a lot of things have been uncovered and the pictures of wilbur with bruses are during the relationship
@@Luciferthekingofpurgitorythe way you are brushing off the biting like that is actually crazy
"Updates" and its a biased pro wilbur soot video.
On god
Cry about it
I stated in the video what had already happened and then I presented the possible information. I showed the information that I have gathered, such as Shubble ALLEGEDLY breaking laws. And also how Wilbur's depression may have played a role in the toxicity of the relationship.
@@Gamer_Twin4 This whole video is basically just why you think wilbur is innocent. You are entitled to your opinions, but this is not unbiased.
@@bigbadjo6011 And you are entitled to *your* own opinions
Am I the only one who still loves Wilbur even after all the accusations that were made
👇
0 likes in 5 minutes bro fell off
Wilbur is a certified ankle biter
I do after all innocent until proven guilty and he still hasn't yet
yall are so weird
@@DeerViianbecause we don’t believe in accusations without evidence