Finally? Gene Simmons single handedly got Van Halen signed,played bass on Running With The Devil,helped promote the shit out of them,took Rush out on the road to have them open for Kiss,and has helped so many other bands get exposure and get looked at by record labels and producers and even did a kickass version of Firestarter by The Prodigy which they loved and even became friends with him. They guy might come off as arrogant to to some but he really is a cool man who keeps his feet down to earth,and that's why he's been at the top of business for so long.
Several years ago I specifically asked Dale how it was touring with KISS and were they dicks. He said no...they and their crew treated them right. Made sure they had a sound check every night
Melvins actually opened for KISS a few times during their reunion tour in 96. Gene gets it. He could jam with almost anyone he wants but he picked the Melvins.
Without a doubt, KISS is one of the most influential bands from the rock era. Not just fluff bands either. They influenced at least one member in the overwhelming majority of important and highly respected bands from the 80s, 90s and 2000s. Probably the finest example being Tom Morello from Rage Against the Machine.
Primus with melvins would be my dream show. I’ve seen Primus eight times but missed the melvins last time they were in the area cause I didn’t see a single add for the show until the day of, could have gotten to see ministry again too
@@zwood1838 luckily the Melvins tour their asses off so they’ll be back. I live in michigan and they came twice this year. Only saw them once though this year
"I listened to your guys' version... I thought something was wrong with my tape..." I would pay good money for that answering machine message. Not great money. But good money.
Say what you want about Gene. He's been in the music business for 50 years and has walked that upper crust of Rock starism than most can only dream of. Like him or hate him.... the man is an entertainer and a business man. And a very successful one at that.
agreed, Gene sometimes can be abrasive, but the guy does know the music scene. Gene also helped Van Halen in the early days paying for there demo tape, he wanted to sign them but his label passed , so he set em free with the demo and rest is history.
...Gene also wanted Pentagram in the 70s but the bassist was late bc he hitchhiked to the demo & was wearing his plumbing outfit and that was that no callback The Internet has boosted Melvins and that is awesome.
That is so true. And those bands have publicly stated their gratitude even to this day. Still we hear a lot of "Kiss are greedy dinosaurs and monsters!" They helped Van Halen get going in the mainstream ( even if Gene's demo's and such didnt take off) And Paul Stanley had a helping hand with Guns N Rose's before Appetite came out, he was a possible choice of record producer.
Kurt turned me onto the Melvins when I was kid thankfully. Seeing them with Down was the loudest show I have ever been to in my life...which includes Deftones, Motorhead, White Zombie etc.
Hmm, curious that there's footage of Gene unsuccessfully trying to break that door down, but no footage of him casually destroying it with taekwando skills.
Gene didn't even remember. He asked the interviewer if he kicked the door down and he said yes so Gene ran with it and started going on about how easily he can make wood splinter lmao
My brother went to a Melvins concert on Halloween dressed as King Buzzo (namely a fro wig and a Melvins shirt) and he won the costume contest and got his picture taken with Buzzo
Like Gene, Buzz isn’t afraid to call bs when he sees it, and stays true to his art. Got to admire him for that, especially nowadays, where cancel culture is rife within the industry.
Say what you want about KISS and Gene, but they never had anything handed to them early on, toured constantly and every band they played with -- Rush, Bob Seger, Cheap Trick -- they all talk about how supportive and nice the guys in KISS were, esp Gene -- they were always on the side of their fellow musicians …. Yes, he's got this massive chip on his shoulder when dealing with the media, but from day one, KISS had to constantly overcome the ridicule and disrespect from all those who couldn't hear the great songs under the image .. They weren't part of the hipster/Andy Warhol scene, critics not only hated them but went out of their way to disrespect what they accomplished .. They were four guys with no money who created something that influenced a few generations of musicians .. Goin' Blind is one example of a ton of great songs that were foolish dismissed or ignored because the empty elitist attitude people have allow the music to define who they are and couldn't get past the image .. People disliking a band for the way they look is worse than people liking a band for the way they look ..
It's a cover of a KISS original by The Melvins on a KISS tribute compilation called KISS My Ass. What they're talking about is the process of putting The Melvins' version of that album.
Buzz had much respect for Gene and said he was down to earth and not pretentious which made me respect Gene because lets face it the Melvins don't give a fudge who they piss off. Not to mention this is an awesome story, thank you!
The Melvins and CrowBar are 2 of the most underrated bands ever. Which is perfectly fine because that just means the trendys don't know about them and ruin it for everybody🤟
I met Gene in 02, booksigning tour for his first book in Toronto. He was amazingly down to earth and cool with me. January 15, 2002, Chapters in TO. We had a very intense talk and music and life...
there are some things i dont like about gene from his reality show days and stuff he says in the media i guess but the more i learn about kiss and his role he certainly put the work in as a musician, discovering van halen etc
There’s a bizarre recording of Melvins playing this on some morning talk show like good morning America or something like that. It’s awful and amazing at the same time.
A LOT of the 90's grunge era bands, were fans of KISS. Their first few albums were awesome, but the theatrics of what they did, overshadowed the music, unfortunately. Unrelated note: I did security for a Melvins show at the Troubadour in LA ('07-'08?), & it was, even with ear plugs, the LOUDEST show I've EVER been to! As in, PAINFULLY loud! The good news is, I AM a (casual) fan, with "Hooch", "Hag Me", "Christ Hammer", "Don't Forget To Breathe", & "Stop Moving To Florida", being off-the-top-of-my-head favorites.
I usually never like when an album is remixed, but Hotter than Hell's mix is really bad (so there's lots of room for improvement). Parasite on ALIVE is so much better!
Gene finally got something right and isn’t pissing me off
Finally? Gene Simmons single handedly got Van Halen signed,played bass on Running With The Devil,helped promote the shit out of them,took Rush out on the road to have them open for Kiss,and has helped so many other bands get exposure and get looked at by record labels and producers and even did a kickass version of Firestarter by The Prodigy which they loved and even became friends with him. They guy might come off as arrogant to to some but he really is a cool man who keeps his feet down to earth,and that's why he's been at the top of business for so long.
@@davebass9990 Well aaid. People can say what they want about Gene amd Kiss, but He has done tons for rock n roll.
Mmmhmm agreed I love the melvins.... I'm shocked Gene wasn't a prick as usual..
@@davebass9990 Gene didn't get Van Halen signed.
@@user-ei9ns9hq6b I'm going to take a guess that you smell really bad just all the time
I've never seen him more humble and respectful of another band........I'm glad its the melvins
MS MCBRIDE, YOUR ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. HE KNOWS THE MELVINS ARE 20X BETTER THAN KISS SO HES BEING AN ADULT ABOUT IT.
@@Cannabis112 could you say that again but a bit louder?
@@kelleymcbride4633 yah I don't know what happened there . Passion took over. I'm gonna take nap.
Absolutely the coolest shit ever.
I also wonder if buzz used another guitar, or pre kiss sticker les Paul he always played back then
Melvins version of Going Blind is amazing, definitely does sound like they made it their own
For sure!
its so refreshing to see Gene just being a music lover and a cool guy. Forgot he had that ability lol
always thought it was his way getting to Kurt, to be honest.
The feeling is mutual, Buzz always talks about Kiss being cool
Several years ago I specifically asked Dale how it was touring with KISS and were they dicks. He said no...they and their crew treated them right. Made sure they had a sound check every night
Melvins actually opened for KISS a few times during their reunion tour in 96. Gene gets it. He could jam with almost anyone he wants but he picked the Melvins.
First time I saw Melvins was opening for KISS. seen them 16 times since.
I personally was never a KISS fan, but the fact that many of the musicians I love were (Melvins, Kurt Cobain, AIC) does make me respect them.
Without a doubt, KISS is one of the most influential bands from the rock era. Not just fluff bands either. They influenced at least one member in the overwhelming majority of important and highly respected bands from the 80s, 90s and 2000s. Probably the finest example being Tom Morello from Rage Against the Machine.
Pantera, skid row
Wow, Gene actually sounds like a human-being in this video. Like, he comes off as an actual music fan and not a greedy business tycoon
seeing the melvins and primus on the same show must have been nuts. not to mention gene coming out unexpectedly
Saw them both a first years ago in San Bernardino. Great show.
I saw that tour, but no Gene lol.
I got see both them at montabello rockfest one year was epic
Primus with melvins would be my dream show. I’ve seen Primus eight times but missed the melvins last time they were in the area cause I didn’t see a single add for the show until the day of, could have gotten to see ministry again too
@@zwood1838 luckily the Melvins tour their asses off so they’ll be back. I live in michigan and they came twice this year. Only saw them once though this year
Man, I saw the Melvins the first time in ‘97 when I was 27... my son, who’s now 26 (in ‘19) has seen them multiple times now. Makes his daddy proud!
my sons middle name is melvin!
I'm 2 years younger than your son and I've seen the melvins 10 times. 11 later this month. Wish my parents liked them lol
I had no idea Goin Blind was a kiss cover until I saw this video. Gene was right, melvins really made it sound unique to them
"I listened to your guys' version... I thought something was wrong with my tape..." I would pay good money for that answering machine message. Not great money. But good money.
Gene's cool factor went up jamming with Melvins. Goin Blind is one of my favorite KISS songs.
Gaddafi is still alive?
😆 🤣
Get Hillary on the phone
Say what you want about Gene. He's been in the music business for 50 years and has walked that upper crust of Rock starism than most can only dream of. Like him or hate him.... the man is an entertainer and a business man. And a very successful one at that.
agreed, Gene sometimes can be abrasive, but the guy does know the music scene. Gene also helped Van Halen in the early days paying for there demo tape, he wanted to sign them but his label passed , so he set em free with the demo and rest is history.
...Gene also wanted Pentagram in the 70s but the bassist was late bc he hitchhiked to the demo & was wearing his plumbing outfit and that was that no callback The Internet has boosted Melvins and that is awesome.
Good to see Gene cool with the Melvins.
“I’m 93 you’re 16” makes so much more sense now
Don't forget that Gene helped bands like: Rush, Judas Priest, Van Halen, Queen, Iron Maiden when nobody in America knew nothing about them.
That is so true. And those bands have publicly stated their gratitude even to this day. Still we hear a lot of "Kiss are greedy dinosaurs and monsters!"
They helped Van Halen get going in the mainstream ( even if Gene's demo's and such didnt take off)
And Paul Stanley had a helping hand with Guns N Rose's before Appetite came out, he was a possible choice of record producer.
The Melvins opening for Primus was the first time I had ever heard The Melvins. I’m in double digits for Melvins shows now.
Kurt turned me onto the Melvins when I was kid thankfully. Seeing them with Down was the loudest show I have ever been to in my life...which includes Deftones, Motorhead, White Zombie etc.
He jammed with Thunders I'm sure as he shared practice space with the Dolls.
Melvins opening for KISS was my first time seeing them....going to my 18th melvins show in June
Love that Gene is all decked out "grunge styles" at soundcheck!! beautiful work👍
God, I love Dale!!
God bless the MELVINS!!!
Gene was holding his wig on while he was kicking that door lol.
Lmfao dude
The Melvins, MoD, DoA, Sonic Youth, Suicidal Tendencies, Black Flag, what a great amount of bands to grow up watching and hearing. Mad respect.
That was pretty dope, Gene Simmons jamming with the Melvins.
Hmm, curious that there's footage of Gene unsuccessfully trying to break that door down, but no footage of him casually destroying it with taekwando skills.
Taekwando only works if your hat stays on.
Opened with a key: czcams.com/video/uPC0VIK3_Xc/video.htmlm30s
Gene didn't even remember. He asked the interviewer if he kicked the door down and he said yes so Gene ran with it and started going on about how easily he can make wood splinter lmao
Well, he's an asshole.
Gene finally got to play with some real musicians
@Andy Salter Hey man, music will bring ppl together...glad you speak up and can take a joke. 50% of what's wrong in America. Peace.
@@nealdamkjer192 I think the Melvins are better musicians
Idk man, Ace and Peter were pretty amazing
@Andy Salter You got be joking.
He definitely seems like a douche
I literally bought the Kiss tribute album because Dinosaur Jr was on it. But it is the song that got me to go check out the Melvins later on.
My brother went to a Melvins concert on Halloween dressed as King Buzzo (namely a fro wig and a Melvins shirt) and he won the costume contest and got his picture taken with Buzzo
Dale Crover, my favorite drummer.
Melvins are great live. Very entertaining.
Like Gene, Buzz isn’t afraid to call bs when he sees it, and stays true to his art. Got to admire him for that, especially nowadays, where cancel culture is rife within the industry.
And years later. Buzz would be on “spin the bottle” Kiss tribute album doing God of Thunder.
Say what you want about KISS and Gene, but they never had anything handed to them early on, toured constantly and every band they played with -- Rush, Bob Seger, Cheap Trick -- they all talk about how supportive and nice the guys in KISS were, esp Gene -- they were always on the side of their fellow musicians …. Yes, he's got this massive chip on his shoulder when dealing with the media, but from day one, KISS had to constantly overcome the ridicule and disrespect from all those who couldn't hear the great songs under the image .. They weren't part of the hipster/Andy Warhol scene, critics not only hated them but went out of their way to disrespect what they accomplished .. They were four guys with no money who created something that influenced a few generations of musicians .. Goin' Blind is one example of a ton of great songs that were foolish dismissed or ignored because the empty elitist attitude people have allow the music to define who they are and couldn't get past the image .. People disliking a band for the way they look is worse than people liking a band for the way they look ..
I just don't like the production on their albums
Incredible footage. Great version. Always love seeing the Melvins up close when they are in the UK.
Imagine seeing Primus and Melvins at a club and Gene Simmons comes out.
Not being a Kiss fan, I didn’t realize “Going Blind” was a cover.
t0ypuddl3 me neither and I did like kiss. When I was fucking ten but by 11 I knew better
Would be very cool if buzz wrote romantic lyrics like that himself lol
So’s God of Thunder
Being a Melvins fan, I've read ALL the credits😂
It's a cover of a KISS original by The Melvins on a KISS tribute compilation called KISS My Ass. What they're talking about is the process of putting The Melvins' version of that album.
probably the coolest thing he ever did lol,
I agree, 😄
He signed Destroyer for me, for free, so 2...
Been in rock since 73 and you say probably the coolest thing he ever did ? Gtfoh whar a punk lol
@@trurobertson I guess his franchising/merchandising was pretty rock roll huh
@@trurobertson I’m sorry kiss is about as rock and roll as disney
Gene is really cool for that, awesome.
Honkey is always my fav record- it speaks to me like no other melvins release - to this day it’s the only one I love - and the kiss cover ;)
Buzz had much respect for Gene and said he was down to earth and not pretentious which made me respect Gene because lets face it the Melvins don't give a fudge who they piss off. Not to mention this is an awesome story, thank you!
I was at the Concrete show. I was really surprised they did Goin' Blind.
WOW!!! GOOD FOR YOU!!! THANKS FOR LETTING US KNOW YOU WERE THERE!!!
Dale’s getting younger looking
thought you were joking but when i saw him i went what the fuck because he just looks so fresh
I mean the amount he’s paid his plastic surgeon
Wow, I usually hate gene, but this is a cool thing for him to do
I never really liked Kiss nor Gene until I heard the Melvins, then I saw them live and quite frankly it was a flawless show
Gene is a legend the man is honest and true tells it how it is. Melvins legendary heavy.
This is so awesome!!! Thank you so much for sharing.
Melvins kick ass on everything they do
That was insanely cool.
Hello idlehanz I used to trade DVDS with you over 10 years ago! Good to see you are still around 😎
Hey there!
Gene looked so cool during that time. 95ish.
The Melvins and CrowBar are 2 of the most underrated bands ever. Which is perfectly fine because that just means the trendys don't know about them and ruin it for everybody🤟
Crowbar!!
Cro-Mags
The live footage sounds like the real thing = eardrums overwhelmed by the sonic assault of MELVINS.
Whoa.he nailed the Gene impression
Everyone's talking about their cover of Goin' Blind, but their version of God of Thunder blasts it out of the picture.
"Hey man, KISS are pretty cool"
Funny any other story or instance I hear about Gene Simmons makes him out to be the most horrendous douche but this was cool to see
_ _iconoclast it was refreshing. I agree
Not every other story, Buzzo has had nothing but good things to say about their experiences with KISS.
I met Gene in 02, booksigning tour for his first book in Toronto. He was amazingly down to earth and cool with me. January 15, 2002, Chapters in TO. We had a very intense talk and music and life...
there are some things i dont like about gene from his reality show days and stuff he says in the media i guess but the more i learn about kiss and his role he certainly put the work in as a musician, discovering van halen etc
There’s a bizarre recording of Melvins playing this on some morning talk show like good morning America or something like that. It’s awful and amazing at the same time.
Dinosaur was a great version, Melvins should have been on that album
I love melvinz and KIZZ great story!
The Melvins and Kiss! Two great bands!
The melvins use guitars and drums because they want the best
It’s a banger of a song, quite unique for them.
I was scrolling through my recommended section and upon seeing the thumbnail was like “ I wonder who that old Asian lady is.... oihhh”
lmao, that imitation was beyond on point
that was cool AF
Gene's best song.
This makes Gene seem a little cool!!! Love it!!
oh yeah, his taekwondo skills are on par with steven seagal's aikido, i wonder who will be the grandmaster of lying about their fighting skills.
Sue McQueen can’t touch Steven Seagal, the master bluesman and aikido god. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
what a bizarre and weirdly descriptive metaphor
Wasn't Dale also playing drums for Nirvana on "Do you love me?" also on that compilation?
No that was Chad. It's also the only session to feature Jason Everman.
@@gvehar Cool thanks, those times are sketchy to me who was doing what.
I thought for sure that was dale too?!? Oh well the more you know 🌟💫✨
....except he didn't really kick the door in. Derek eventually got it open using a hotel room card. Shoulda played the whole video. Just sayin'.
I think the point was to let Gene think he did it because it's funnier
first time i listen and see gene that i dont want to punch his face hahaha
You are so down to earth Gene! Buzz said you were just a great guy to work with no arrogance at all.
Hope everything is going better for you all.
That was greatest 12 minutes I ever spent in my life😳
Gene wanted to play with real musicians for a change & it was Melvins🤘
lol. I always hear this song on Pandora but never realized it was a Kiss cover.
Most people love to talk shit about Gene but he really is a great fucking guy.
I’ve been a fan since seeing them open for Primus in Toronto and just found out they didn’t write Going Blind. 😂
They should have done an album together.
Nobody is mentioning SRV subbing in on guitar?
In what context? On a Melvins deal or a KISS thing.
@@mlwsf in this video
Exactly!!! I'm scrolling through comments to see who that guy was
@@allanlaskeyguitar ya, but was SRV playing with KISS or the fucking Melvins? 😂
@@allanlaskeyguitar Oh, I see it was a joke. Stevie's hair was never that long.
A love song for the ages...❤
Dale and buzzo look more and more alike the older they get like a married couple
That's what happens.....
What an incredibly decent man! He's always been about the audience, all about his fans, and never himself. He is as humble as he is successful.
I saw the Melvins open for rush in early 1994..Melvins only played 35 minutes,and rush played for 2 hours
Yeah but the Melvins probably played more songs lol
@@itookallthenames I'm not sure how many they played,as I'd never even heard of the Melvins back then
@@jasonweinstock1282 i was making the joke, some early Melvins songs were less than a minute long
A LOT of the 90's grunge era bands, were fans of KISS. Their first few albums were awesome, but the theatrics of what they did, overshadowed the music, unfortunately. Unrelated note: I did security for a Melvins show at the Troubadour in LA ('07-'08?), & it was, even with ear plugs, the LOUDEST show I've EVER been to! As in, PAINFULLY loud! The good news is, I AM a (casual) fan, with "Hooch", "Hag Me", "Christ Hammer", "Don't Forget To Breathe", & "Stop Moving To Florida", being off-the-top-of-my-head favorites.
They all were, Pearl Jam had Ace play a KISS song with them at MSG. AIC opened for KISS. Nirvana covered KISS..... I am not sure about Soundgarden.
I think Christ Bucket is actually called "Honey Bucket."
@@voronOsphere My bad.. it's called, "Christ Hammer".
This is Genes best analogy rant.
Dale seems like a guy who I would love to just talk to. Love the melvins.
I love the Hotter Than Hell record, maybe their best. Just wish they would go back get the masters and remix it.
All of their 70s work is amazing
It's their best studio album. Sounds fine but I know what ya mean
@@MENFUSSMIKE I gotta go with Rock And Roll Over
@@jeremynelson5311 Mr. Speed and Baby Driver!!!
I usually never like when an album is remixed, but Hotter than Hell's mix is really bad (so there's lots of room for improvement). Parasite on ALIVE is so much better!
so this happened on the primus, melvins, mr bungle tour?
Wow! I'm in total shock! Gaurentee they're in love with the likeness of being "groundhogs"!! Hahaha!!!
Great band.huge body of work
8:43 pretty cool
Thanks Gene
Bad analogy... the prairie dog that pokes his head above ground, is the prairie dog that gets his head blown off...
Omg going blind one of my faves
Gene pulls off the Muammar Gaddafi look pretty well.
I actually expected him to bad mouth them. Color me pleasantly surprised.
KISS...my firstist fave band....MELVINS....my fifthtist fave
'We don't care if there's a wolf' should be the title of the next melvins album.
I'm really surprised they made/had/whatever Gene kick the door himself to get his own bass!