Could a prime Bruce Lee have beaten an MMA fighter?
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"Don't fear man who trained 10 000 kicks. Fear man with the biggest arms in West Linn Oregon."
Tony Ferguson
mind to explain?
@@bencohen6645 The original quote was from Bruce Lee and is don't fear the man who trained 10,000 kicks 1 time. Fear the man who trained 1 kick 10,000 times. Chael is known for having the largest arms in west linn oregon
TheIrishAreBack I Hope Chael saw this and laughed.
@@thesprock5270 me too man it would be even funier 😃
Chael's arms can be seen from space. They are the reason aliens don't visit Earth, too scared.
“I’m not in this world to live up to your expectations and you’re not in this world to live up to mine.”
-Bruce Lee
I am that I am.
Nigel Liotta Peter Tosh was a great man.
Great quote but I believe these were said by muhammad Ali?
Another plagiarized quote from Bruce Lee. Bruce plagiarized a lot, in fact every famous quote of his was plagiarized.
@Darth Desec So true...lol.
Something tells me that if Bruce Lee saw Royce Gracie submit guys in the early days of UFC, he would have been training BJJ like a madman before even turning the TV off.
My thoughts exactly.
Right. But he didn't. And that's not the comparison
@@retroriceremix4734 dude he's beeb dead a long time ago
Exactly! The point is he would learn the best style of fighting!
@@retroriceremix4734 What exactly would a grappler succeed on Bruce ?
This gives me pain. I would’ve loved to see Bruce live out his full life. The knowledge he woulda bestowed if he had more time with us.
Dumb people always say this kind of thing about any one who died. As if the dead guy is the only guy with a brain.
@@Frip36 Well what can you do, it's the cult of personality as well, a great disease for fragile people
Captain Sunday nigga he was one of the best fighters to ever live
Why does it cause you pain? He couldn't fight. He was a fake. He was quoted as saying he could beat Muhammad Ali 😂. He was a very talented showman, philosopher, entertainer. He was also a very talented liar and charlatan.
@@RyanSmith-km8vh I believed, he could handle himself in a real fight against the adverage person, but a real fighter no, but ya other than that I agree
Bruce Lee to Chael: “Send me location!”
Chael to Bruce Lee: "Only with a referee and rules!"
@@Fla_Law_Dog Agreed up on set of rule and agreed upon time in an agreed up on place.
@@Fla_Law_Dog Restrictive rules (destroys the point of real fighting) or not, Chael gets killed by Bruce. Not beaten. Killed.
@@JessicaChastainFan Idiot
@@theanarchy4003 Your coach at the local MMA gym tell you different?
I swear, MMA guys have become worse than the traditional martial artists with their delusions of invincibility. Not to mention this attitude that real fighters didn't exist before cellphone cams and CZcams.
It's a slow day in the office when someone brings up Bruce Lee, but at this point, I'll take any content I can get...thank you
Chael will talk about ANYTHING. He fantasies about anything. Tomorrow he will probably upload a video with the title: "Could Jon Jones beat a 2 year old male lion?"
You sad cause Chael's speaking the truth
FACTS
@Brett Sylvester Yes, and it's really sad and pathetic, still gullible goons swarming.
i bet none of y'all talking shit can even bang out 30 good sit ups
Stealing the best from everything else and using it for practical combat is literally MMA...
Those philosophies were around and practiced thousands of years before Lee.
@@ranchlife8128 but not in martial arts.
I remember when I was doing Wing Chun my teacher scolded me for cross training with kickboxing and Arnis ... needless to say I quit that school
Then he wasn’t the right teacher.
I hope you atleast stole some things he taught
I remember when I was training in BJJ and my own body scolded me also trying to do boxing and Muay Thai and Judo once a week and lifting weights. It scolded me so much that one day I just couldn't get off the couch and that became a habit, day after day... As it happened, I didn't do any of that stuff again for several years. I'm not sure what my original point was. Probably something about diminishing returns or something like that, but I'm kinda depressed sharing that sad tale and think I need a nap.
@@palabrajot505 Take your time my friend. You still have time to follow your dreams
He did you a favor, wing chun’s worthless
Chael will talk about ANYTHING. Tomorrow he will probably upload a video with the title: "Could Jon Jones beat a 2 year old male lion?"
Hahahaha
Yes except when it's no. A 50lb house cat will fuck a grown man up. -JRE
Now let's backtrack for a second there, the real question is if the lion's an African or Asiatic hahaha
mike hansen hahaaa lion win armbar
mike hansen lmao
Let's be honest. Bruce Lee likely wouldn't have been able to beat an MMA fighter in its current form. Now an MMA trained Bruce Lee would have been a whole different animal. But make no mistake about it. Bruce Lee still would have been a dangerous striker.
There's some absolute bums on the regional scene who Bruce could probably handle even without modern training.
@@TW7S95 I've trained for just over 2 years now. There are guys who don't train who fight on the regional scene, I've seen them...
@@CallousCarter no doubt, but a signed MMA fighter to a national or global promotion that is ranked? I highly doubt it. Although there are a few people I think he could take. Bob Sapp is definitely one of them. "He broked-ed my nose" 😂
@@-KillaWatt- Bob Sapp is levels above the guys I'm thinking of!
Ye I agree I don't think he'd beat any MMA fighter at a major promotion though without a lot of time to train at a modern gym.
He wouldn’t of been a dangerous striker if he wasn’t mma trained he would of got his legs destroyed the ko’d
It is still mind blowing how people think an actor was actually a top fighter. This is the magic of cinema.
Bro he literally did martial arts he wasn't just an actor
@@eggsthemilkman5715 he wasnt a fighter.
bro i am an amateur mma fighter literally I have been in like 4 kickboxing,6mma fights I have been in more fights then bruce lee stop lying to yourself
I feel that most people overlook Bruce Lee's ridiculous discipline. When people think of discipline, they may think of guys like David Goggins, Marvin Hagler, tough men like that. Bruce Lee was one of those guys, he spent time training as a monk in a Shaolin temple. He then went on to enlist in the Marine Corps in 1972, and received training at Parris Island. The dude is hardened to the bone. If he were to be a fighter in MMA today, he would be smart and disciplined enough to train with the best, top tier MMA practitioners and fighters, and exercise his variables in wrestling, Jiu Jitsu, boxing, kickboxing, etc.
He must've been very fit and well conditioned back then when he was training regularly, so I feel cardio wouldn't be an issue, as a matter of fact his cardio would be insane. It's a fun fantasy to dive into, but I feel a lot of people sleep on Bruce Lee tbh
What’s the source for monk training and marine ambition
Because he did nothing in competitive martial arts.
Bruce did not train at a Shaolin Temple or join the Marines. Either you are talking about someone else or you literally made shit up.
You have no idea of discipline a real professional fighter
chael to corona virus patient "i cant let you get close"
wertytrewqa 😂😂😂
He would have evolved with the sport.
Correct, and very quickly too. Bruce had a real desire to improve and improve quickly 👍
"Be like water..."
@@enterthebruce91 These are the most insightful comments I have read. Exactly this. He would have evolved with the sport and PROBABLY quickly. He was intelligent, super athletic, insanely devoted and passionate, philosophical and hugely ahead of his time with regards to innovation. The huge issue I have with these retarded debates and Chaels half assed thoughts, in this instance, is every one neglects to approach this with the question, if Bruce Lee was training TODAY, how do we think he would have done? And I BELIEVE AT LEAST - WELL! If not be a top level MMA fighter, if he so choose. He was breaking new ground when there wasn't any ground - it's not fair to compare what he was doing back then, with no real platform for application or testing, he chose to express his many theories via film. If GSP took to film instead of MMA and someone said how do we think he would have done vs MMA fighters, Chael would have laughed because he was a movie star and not a fighter - well, GSP chose and answered. Anybody get where I am coming from here?
The proper answer is WE DON'T KNOW - but I have a feeling, VERY WELL, in his weight class.
He was VERY smart and the smartest fighters WIN
Bruce lee never fought in mma, how can he evolve if he had no experience. Bruce lee was an inspiration but he was not a fighter
Chael you seem to have missed three important facts:
-What Bruce Lee did on camera was not what he practiced in real life
-What Bruce Lee taught his students was not what he practiced in real life
-Bruce Lee mixed TMA, Western boxing, fencing, Judo, Jujitsu, etc. etc. He was the original Mixed Martial artist.
And did he not get chuck Norris his first action film chuck went on to make many more chuck Norris was a point karate champion unlike Joe Lewis another of Lee's students who went on to leave point karate to start full contact kickboxing he said Lee was very fast and powerful especially with his hands blinding speed and should be considered he who was the greatest
@ the fact the only computation fighting at that time was none contact and the winner only received a trophy Lee was making money else where the late Jim Kelly also said that's why he stopped he had a family to feed so by the time full contact came about lee was a major movie star Lee was about making a martial art for the street not to win a trophy and you could say that about any so called champion of that time it was point karate no contact was made including chuck Norris hes a champion of none contact
@David It's not well known how fast he was. We have no documentation of Bruce testing that speed against a trained and fully resisting opponent.
@@aidenfletcher6503 Boxing and wrestling existed at the time. Even full contact Muay Thai existed in places like Thailand and Holland, and the Gracie challenge matches that they filmed were already happening in Brazil around the time that Enter the Dragon came out. He could have tested himself through all those ways.
that last claim seems made up
Bruce Lee: "Be like water, my friend...Shapeless, formless and turning the frogs gays..."
Khabib: "Send me location". All he needed.
But the question remains...just how good was Bruce Lee?
Indeed the real question, atleast we know he was southpaw which usually leads to great fighters
In his era his was probably one of the best. Comparing him to modern fighters with nearly 50 years of knowledge he never could have access to isn't fair at all. However his philosophy and mind for fighting has only recently been truly achieved. To truly mix all styles, to create the best possible form of fighting there is.
@@reservoirfrogs2177 Put him a modern text, given the same information, training techniques, diet, sports medicine, etc. and you would have a monster on your hands.
@@Mr.56Goldtop His mindset is unparalleled even today. With the knowledge of everything he didn't get a chance to learn he'd have been one of the best.
The only true measure we have are the ppl who actually sparred with Bruce. If you talk to anyone who knew Bruce intimately, like Chuck Norris, they all say the same thing, Bruce was the real deal. He really could fight and he was really good.
Bruce Lee Slandering Will Not Be Tolerated
@Tren Kokoko Bruce had lots of fights just not recorded on a HD camera, trust me Bruce was the real deal and anyone who thinks he wasnt is a fool
damn right it won't
@@HOPPOVERSION1 beating up random nobodies means what?
@@HOPPOVERSION1 And Jesus was real and smoked weed with meand encourages it and anyone who thinks otherwise, is a fool. It's just not recorded on HD camera
facts arent slander
Lot of legit guys admit that bruce was for real during sparring
He was before his time. It'd be like putting Bill Russell of the 60s Celtics into today's game. He'd be good cause he's still a basketball great, but you'd notice the separation of technique. Give Bruce a year to get used to it though and he'd probably start fighting people
@@booqrdoit9138 No doubt, Bruce Lee always preached about adaptability. He would catch on to the techniques used by today's fighters without question.
Lee did fight people :
-Gary Elms
-Wong Jack Man
-at least 2 stuntmen during Enter filming
-vs thai fighter during Boss filming (Bruce was pissed cuz he had hurt one of the Chinese actors by being rough)
-vs hair dresser during Fist filming ?
Michael Chan : "After i saw how good he was i did not dare to challenge him" , Chan knew Lee for 2 yrs......Jim Kelly also believed Lee could fight , so did his students.
@Mr Satan Now you're just trolling , the Enter extra incident happened March 16 , 1973 - it DID happen and was in HK newspapers , if you dont believe it fine , but it happened
@@postersandstuff Scrolling down I was thinking that the comments are reasonable and no fanboys getting carried away........Then I read this.
I think Bruce could've knocked out at least some guys in his weight class, just with his speed and accuracy
Well yeah, maybe amateurs but put him with fighters like khabib. In the octagon bruce would have nowhere to go.
@@raulg9803 I agree but put Bruce lee in a streetfight with any of these fighters they would get killed but that being said if he's not as fast as he had been said to be I see khabib mauling him using his bjj and wrestling
@@brandonbarrales6800 I still think in a streetlight khabib would stand a chance against bruce. All khabib needs to do is grab him.
@@brandonbarrales6800 Bruce lee isn’t super human like you think. Any fighters in the ufc welter weight + would destroy him. That being said his philosophy is great
@@finnflaherty2442 I'm saying that it all depends on how fast he is whether he would be able to win a fight we've never seen his true speed if he's fast but a ufc fighter is able to react he's losing if he's so fast they can't react he wins the issue here is not his technique but execution of speed technique too but it plays a factor but not the main factor in this imaginary what if
“Express yourself honestly.”
Chael ~ “I can't let you get close”
God, I hate Bruce Lee talk because now we have the fanatics who think he was invincible, and then the opposite end of the spectrum of idiots saying 'he was just an actor'.
Essentially, Lee's hypothesis of fighting has in a sense been proved in MMA. He was definitely a visionary, and inspired many fighters of today's age.
How would prime BL fair in the UFC? Probably not very well if he couldn't defend a takedown. However, with training and time, given his ridiculous work ethic, I'm quite sure he would have done very well.
Chael, you refer to Chuck Norris as real because he competed, yet he competed in point karate. How about Joe Lewis, considered the godfather of kickboxing, who BL became affiliated with and soon after Lewis went on a huge win streak, becoming the champion. Then there's Mike Stone, and Gene LeBelle.
Anyway, what we know:
- he had great technique, as observed through film and demonstrations
- he had the knowledge of many martial arts/fighting. Why would world champions train with him if he had nothing to offer?
- he had the physicality
- he grew up in street fights in HK, so he wasn't a stranger to a fight
What we don't know:
- how well he could apply his principles in an actual fight
- how well he could take a punch
I think if he was around today, he would be working with and training many top UFC fighters.
Niall Watts bruce lee had the respect of the best fighters and thats a credit to how good he was . This man the imagine that he has created is unchanged. And the amazing things he has done validated by people show how crazy and amazingly talented this man was. I dont think its fair to look and evaluate him like this. We weren’t around him we know nothing. His physical prowess and power is undeniable
Niall Watts b connor mcgregor couldnt defend take downs for much if his time in ufc. I think bruce lee would have had much the the style of connor. Bruce lee had inhuman power and thats fact.
@@slurp3194 Conor's takedown defense is amazing. Ofcourse a casual wouldnt know that
@@slurp3194 You're delusional and that's a fact.
Niall Watts chuck Norris was kickboxing champ for like 12 years. Very real fighter
Honestly in his time he was basically an mma guy before there were any.
Spot on...I like Chael, but this is nothing than rehashed clickbait & we all clicked 🤔😂😴 Everyone who knows anything about him is that he didn't believe in rules, so he wouldn't have done it. All the respect in the world to the man. He's passed on, so we'll never know. Ya got to let it go. I personally am amazed by his skills, work ethic, but most of all his philosophies.
His point is did he compete? I mean everyone he listed were pretty bad dudes no matter what. But none took it to the ring so to chael they're fakes.
@@nicolasriversmusic but i agree everything about bruce was amazing and there's no doubt had he competed he would have been a force.
I train primarily in street combatives. I've trained with mma and boxing guys. Watching a boxer or mma guy try to defend a full on knife attack. Typically 16 stabs+ in the gut whilst they tried to clinch it out . They had absolutely no clue. They trained their reactions for ring, sports fighting. Its just different. Would love to see Chael defend a full on knife attack. Real combatives as opposed to sports fighting
@@jimsteen911 but at that time it was none contact karate. Joe Lewis himself said Lee got him interested in full contact as that's how they spared when Lee was getting him geard up to win all these tournaments but Joe got feed up with none contact ie point karate champions that didn't take a hit including chuck Norris joe then went on to start full contact now known as American kickboxing he retired undefeated Joe Lewis credits Lee for helping him up his game and said he could hit as hard as a heavy weight and had lightning speed especially with his hands Mike stone also had training with Bruce that's how Joe Lewis heard about him from Mike and Jim Kelly all top of the tournament scene of that time but Lee was making big money and had no interest in point karate you only got a trophy no money like there is today just adding that in not having a go at your comment.
If Bruce could actually execute the striking and grappling in The Tao Of Jeet Kune Do than yes Chael he could have been a Bantamweight nightmare. Dude was showing heel hooks, judo throws, takedown defense, calf kicks, high tier boxing technique etc.. He is in the very least the beginning of the birth of mma.
OK.
But let's say for the sake of argument that Bruce Lee is exposed to the testing.
We surely can't be saying that he wouldn't have the ability and dedication to be able to adopt the modern way of fighting.
No way hed get takendown and destroyed
@@amirtaleb4900 maybe. We don't know how he would adapt to the ground game and what not. But it's hard to take someone down who's just faster than everybody
Good point Austin.
I'm sure he would get Merced but chuck norris spoke on this and hes a black belt in bjj and does mma training and shit. I think if a prime bruce lee was on the planet with his training he had in the 70s he would most likely lose but being the martial artist that he is. Why wouldn't he go to a place like american top team or some shit and train.
@@dantemagalhaes9462 faster on a set , acting u mean..different to fighting lol..bruce lee got in to 2 known fights with witnesses, and he got smacked like a bitch both times ...good at philosophy but never was a fighter
Do we bring 25 year old Bruce Lee over here and give him a few years at American Top Team or AKA? With modern training principles, diet, and the 25 years of MMA knowledge we have today, putting Bruce Lee in the Mix at the 125 weight division might make some noise.
There is no question he was a gifted athlete, and a lot of what goes into MMA is those natural gifts. With modern training and diet, Bruce might be a smaller, more technical Barboza.
Or he could be like Brock and not like getting punched in the face? All fun speculations.
He was a lifelong martial artist and was no stranger to getting punched in the face
bruce lee in that division today would be like a godsend for that division.
125? Bruce lee was 170 pounds of pure muscle at one point. 6% body fat. He was curling 60 pound dumbells and eating flank steak every day. The guy was a monster at 5'8.
gamebread pimp Bruce was never 170
Bruce proved he was stronger than a heavy weight. Namely, Joe Lewis. How? Did you see the comparison of punching? It's so easy to talk smack about someone when they're no longer around. What MMA fighter could Bruce have beaten? ALL OF THEM! I met the guy!
You met him? Lucky you!! More and more interviews coming up from people from that era saying Bruce was the real deal and they witnessed his fights. Did you witness any yourself?
@@bertt1055 I didn't see him fight, but I did see him do something else. I seen him smash a brick that my cousin brought to him. My cousin, Dan Coldwell, an opulent Jewish business man, took me to a demonstration, and he brought his own brick to see if Bruce could break it. It was a burnt clay brick which is the same kind that is used to build houses. My cousin walked up to Bruce and he said, "Sir, no offense, but if you're for real, then you should have no problem breaking this brick." He then handed it to Bruce. Bruce took the brick, extended it with one hand, and he shattered it with a PUNCH. Bruce was actually some what pissed off and offended at first, but he cooled down. We jumped back! I was only 8 years old, but when I think about the amazing force it must've took to break a REAL brick like that, it scares me. Bruce hit that damn thing and shattered it before anyone knew it. That guy was super human for sure!
Wow. Damn, you were really lucky! I didn't know he could do stuff like that
@@guitarttimman I would of loved to meet lee always been a big fan of lee proper legend that man for sure !!! 👍
Who’s Joe Lewis?
bruh bruce lee would knock every mma fighter in 1 second
u stupid?
You're a sped.
One smart guy in the comments section
@@CBTheG0D no i'm not but u are
I respect Bruce Lee but he would not do well in mma
If u mean to transport bruce lee from were he was in the year he was in and put him in there with a ufc fighter then no of course he wouldnt beat anyone. But if u gave him the time everyone else has had then yea I agree with what mcgregor said once that lee would be a ufc champ at least once
maurice johnson agreed!
I highly doubt it. The chances of becoming champ are so low, i just don’t see it. He would have as much chance as anyone else who got into fighting.
He won a boxing tournament apparently. OK great. But I think a better question is who would Bruce Lee beat given some Bjj and defensive wrestling?
McGregor talks a lot of shit. To much proper shitelve
My bjj trainer was literally an American born English major. Although he talks like he grew up in the favelas.
Bruce lee's philosophy has been the base principle of mma fighters.
Even Conor McGregor clearly sees how good bruce was..He sees by looking he's movents etc that Bruce is very dangerous just by looking what he knows and can do even he has not seen him fight a second.
@@japekki666 Bruce Lee wasn't in sport competitions but that by no means labels him a novice or a fake. he was always fighting in China as a teen. neighborhood gang fights were a given in hong kong not to mention the dojo beefs that would go down
Ik.sorry but most ring righters are aggressive and focus on destruction of thoer opnonent.
Bruce Lee was a traditionalist who believed on the purpose of control form. He would never behave the way they do in the ring.
There are people in real MMA that follow his teachings.
This guy actually has no fucking clue about Lee. I have beem in traditional linaege martial arts for over 10 years.
My karate instructors helped me to find instructors in Other forms.
Do not listen to this guy. He has no clue
@@Bakadono7525 Bruce Lee would get destroyed in the UFC, he was 1 dimensional and wasn't even a real fighter. What happens when he gets taken down and mounted?
Fck dat if Bruce lee was taken down he would’ve learned how to use leverage from the bottom !! just look at his 1 inch punch 🤜!! that’s fcken power right there
MMA fighters have really inflated egos. Joe Lewis was a 11 time champion who trained under Bruce Lee and so did Chuck Norris. Joe Lewis accounts that Bruce Lee was far beyond anybody at the time, and could hold a 75 pound barbell straight out and hold it for minutes on end.
World champion in karate. Doesn’t really mean anything now.
@@peterfuentes5893 lol okay
Where's the video of him doing it?
@@harveyquinn3535 Sorry lol
Van Dam had 19 kickboxing fights and won 18 of them losing only one by dq. I wouldn't lump him in with the frauds
Not professional fights like the UFC
I’ve won Karate and kickboxing championships both state and National along with others I know and trained with.
It’s just not the same
@@glane3962 Exactly. Having done both, I can say there's a big difference between open-mat tournaments and actually fighting professionally in the ring. That said, "Jing-Claude" (lol Chael) Van Damme did compete, at least.
And then Chuck Zito beat the shit out of him in a strip club.
*sucker punched
Bruce lee without a doubt was obsessed with working out and evolving martial arts , so yes I think he could’ve been great in mma if he lived today with all the knowledge we have now
Na that's like saying Teddy Atlas could be big on boxing or Dana White could do great in mma, like they wont but the philsosophy is the same.... just cause you can talk doesnt mean you can fight
@@jehovahs_thiccness. Are you comparing Bruce Lee to Dana white? What?? Bruce Lee clearly could fight, mma didn’t exist back then. Just because he didnt compete in little point karate comps like chuck norris doesnt mean he cant fight. Bruce Lee reached a level of physical capabilities in the 60s and 70s that no mma fighter today has achieved. With todays technology, his dedication and brains he would be phenomenal.
@@XwD77 look man idk what physical capabilities you talking bout, if he coulda done serious competition he would have, I'm not even talking bout fighting cause jkd is cool and all but not a good mindset for even boxing which is like only fight competition in those times, apart from secret underground stuff like the kumite but even that probably didnt exist
@@jehovahs_thiccness. Bruce lee would run 5 or 6 miles, he would do powerlifting not for size but for power, he can do 2 finger one handed push at 145 pounds something not a lot of people till this day can’t do, and he would train martial art literally everyday. That already a lot of physical capabilities, compared to today athlete. He was training like how most mma fighters are train today . He was so ahead of his time, Physically and mentally.
@@yo2241 man I get it, but padding out your resume doesnt get you a successful career in competition
I dont think uncle chael understands that half of his viewers are 'pot smoking fans' lol.
Still bruce lee is a better fighter of all
@@jonny2themax bruce lee was not a fighter at all... show me some of his fights.
@@Daniel-yo5es Thats ur opinion. Hes a real martial artist. Everyone around him knows his local fights and what hes done. And i wonder if u ever asked ur self why did a world class champion like chuck norris go train with bruce lee? U can look it the way u want my friend but hes a legend and ppl r still talking about him even to this day for a reason.
@@hisoka524 I dont ask myself that because I know... IT GOT HIM INTO ACTING.. DUHHHHHHH. that's also the reason people are still talking about him..... his movies, DUHHHHHHH. local fights? lmao, yeah sure dude.
How would you know he's a phony , you never met him ??
Michael Chan however knew Lee for yrs in Hong Kong and he too is legit , in fact one of his matches on youtube
Bruce Lee would need exactly what every MMA fighter needs to enter a fight, practice. His style of fighting used a lot of techniques that would cause him to lose a fight because they would be against the rules. He would need time to get the feel for the sport's safety restrictions. Out the gate almost every fighter in his weight class would beat him because he just doesn't have the programming for what techniques to use in what situation based on the rules. He would have to think before acting. The rule book would be playing in his head. He also was just starting his ground education which would put him at a disadvantage skill wise. Let's face it, for his time he was amazing but MMA is the byproduct of what he and other martial artists (which there were others) started. They just started breaking from single systems and started mixing them. Modern artists have the benefit of growing up in an open system and learning what works and when for far longer. Take him at his prime and give him a year or so to do dedicated training for the purpose of fighting so he could build the muscle memory and he would be a handful. The more experience he developed the more effective he would become. The potential to be a champion is definitely there.
Bro, Bruce is the reason you have a job today. He's the grandaddy of the MMA. Recognize.
Chael once fought Bruce Lee, Seagal and Van-Damme on the same night...oh and by the way...with both hands tied behind his back. Never lost a round
Heard about that. Tony Ferguson was the ref and Artem Lobov was the ring announcer.
He just couldn’t let them get close...
Bruce Lee Vs. Conor Mcgregor ( 155
) Who Wins ??
Bruce couldnt make 155
Lose a round!!
They didn’t make it out the first round with Chael!
Bruce lee as he was in the 70's would get whooped in modern mma. If however bruce was born in this generation, and trained specifically for mma, he would be a world champion.
He'd be holding 5 belts - simultaneously.
And Dana would be putting Fixer McRapist on hold while he took Bruce's call.
@@SelectCircle they both are losers.
Both of you are idiots you don't know that
Absolutely no evidence to prove that, there are far too many variables involved to make such a bold assumption
@Brett Sylvester yeah sure for 5 years old kiddo like you.. we dont expect you to know anything but shit..
Also Chael, "John Wayne was a real life tough guy."
Chuck Norris and Joe Lewis (the Karate Champ, not the boxer) both said Bruce Lee was a handful in sparring. Also, after meeting Gene LeBell, he started incorporating grappling in his arsenal. If you watch the beginning of Enter the Dragon, you'll see Bruce sparring with an opponent, both in tight shorts and gloves that allowed for grabbing. Looked very similar to what we call mma today. He was way ahead of his time; his vision of what mixed style, competitive combat should look like is basically what we see in the UFC. In the film, we see him land some strikes then take his opponent down and tap him out with a crucifix. Lee may not have been a professional fighter but he was a martial artist who emphasized full-contact sparring, cross training in other systems, strength and conditioning training at a time when that stuff wasn't popular in the martial arts world.
Bullshit....Chuck said they never sparred hard and Joe said he never sparred with Bruce and he also said Bruce wasnt a fighter.
What both Norris and Lewis said is that they never sparred with Lee. Period.
Dont let this distract you from the fact that this leaves Jon Jones standing on third base wearing a catchers mit
You repeated something Chael said. Now I get it.
😂
🤣
.. "with a bunch of people dressed as empty seats!"
Got to get the whole Chael experience in your phrasing haha
@@haydarmajzoub7691 Thats my favorite line from him about Jones
There are professional Martial Artists that competed during his day that have come out and definitively made statements stating that Bruce Lee was the real deal!
Bruce Lee was the first step on the thousand mile journey. We are miles from that first step but it inspired many to keep walking in his shadow.
that doesnt mean shit. anderson silva too claimed that steve segal taught him somthing lol
And not a single one of them can explain why...movies arent real.
@@cuzz63 Maybe because he trained 3 people that became full contact karate world champions, 2 of them being the greatest of all time, one of whom went on to create kick boxing.
Michael Woods ignore him. I’ve been watching some Bruce lee videos and he’s there hating in the comment section wherever he goes
Very good analysis with styles of the time. Maybe he may have learned those grabbing skills if he was in this time. Remember he mentioned be like water. I don't know why they didn't get him on competitions. But his demonstrations were very impressive and he really looked good in his art. Imagine how much knowledge and skills he might have learned or added to his portfolio. But it's also difficult to compare then and now. E.g fighting styles, fighter abilities, and using the word if, because the word if is just an imagination. I appreciate all the lesson because they are all great contributions and inspirations.
"His philosophy was no where near as sophisticated or as intelligent, as his pot smoking fans will lead you to believe..."
Joe rogan would like to know your location
this guys a loud mouthed moneyboy who would betray his brother
karl adamuszak someone’s mad
Bruce was alright.
He preached *power hand forward* which every "expert" laughs at.
Lomachenko shows up on the radar in '08 and crushes the boxing world with an unheard of right hand-southpaw fighting style.
Bruce predicts deez tings. 🔮
Right but the way Loma uses his style is far far different than what was taught in the Tao of JKD especially since he does so much stance switching a la mike tyson.
Plenty of boxers worked champions fought that way before Loma bro. Oscar De La Hoya, Winky Wright, Rigo and countless others. Most Cubans train to fight dominant hand fwd. Js any expert laughing at that isn't really an expert. They're just biased to their own ways/views.
Its called being an unorthodox puncher. (Power hand forward and typically used as jab hand) been around in boxing longer than bruce Lee been alive. #themoreyouknow 🌈
U got it wrong man.Loma's powerhand ain't his forward hand.u should hve give Mike Tyson as an example...Mike had his powerhand forward since he was a leftie but fought from an orthodox stance.
@Rukh you're clearly dumb as shit
Could a prime Bruce Lee beat the great undefeated champ champ champ Chael P Sonnen? I don’t think so.
A M no chance. Bruce wouldn’t be able to see any holes in Chael’s game, that’s for sure. Not to mention those bazookas attached to his torso.
Chael is bulletproof period!
For real though, Chael is twice the size and would take him down and ground and pound Bruce with ease.
No you’re wrong. Do you consider Joe Lewis to be “a fool” who didn’t know martial arts? Lewis was a greater fighter than Norris. He won more heavyweight karate championships and went on into full contrat karate. He trained UNDER Lee and credited him for some of his success. He said on film that Bruce could punch like a heavyweight and was the fastest guy he had ever seen. Lee did not compete becasue he said any competition would have restrictions on what moves could be performed and was therefore not the real deal. But everyone in the martia arts world in the USA at the time - including big shots like Lewis, Mike Stone, Jhoon Ree etc. etc. looked up to Lee and his techniques and philosophy AND respected his ability.
“Lee didn’t fight because he was too good and would’ve killed people and he wouldn’t be allowed to compete because he’s too good” heard that from every guy I’ve ever run into at the bar💀 there’s an old quote, don’t remember from where though, that says if you’re naturally 6’7 with a 40 inch vertical and good coordination you’re not just gonna pass up on playing basketball. If you’re setting records in weightlifting, you’re gonna compete. If you’re the best in the world at something, you’re not just gonna pass up the opportunity to compete at it and prove how good you are
@@bigpapi6688 these people are insane man its the bruce lee cult. Watch too many movies
"Bruce Lee would have done great in MMA in his weight class ". Gene Labele. Who actually trained with Bruce for a year
easy to say. We have never seem Bruce in a real fight, so you can’t really say.
@@whereyouatgeorge1488 he had an 8 hour spar session with Chuck Norris and trained with him for months back in California and Chuck Norris said nobody including himself could have beaten him while he was alive, and chael said he was the real deal
@@redder5737 chuck norris didnt say that
@@CaslavNorisavljevic there is literally an interview of him saying it in CZcams
@@CaslavNorisavljevic tell you what how about the great Joe Lewis himself said more than once Lee could hit as hard as a heavy weight I know how hard he could hit how fast he was because he stood in front of me and poped me a few times they trained together full contact that is why Joe Lewis says he got tired of point karate no contact was made Lee got him interested in full contact and Joe went on to start what is now called American kickboxing many CZcams videos showing these interviewers Joe Lewis talks Bruce Lee and kickboxing Joe Lewis talks Bruce Lee's power and strength you only need open your mind and do a search or Mike stone Jim Kelly and yes of course chuck Norris after many years changed his story from they never spared to they spared enjoy what CZcams has to offer
Could a prime Bruce Lee have beaten a juiced-up Chael Sonnen?
Bruce lee can beat no Chael, juiced or not.
@@whereyouatgeorge1488 Is there a such thing as a non-juiced Chael?
Chael Sonnen doesn't take steroids, steroids take Chael Sonnen
I’m guessing wrestler bs stroker wrestler having 50 pounds on him and Chael has never lost the answer would be hell to the maybe... lol
jho: How dare you.
If Broce Lee was alive today in his 30 he was going t9 be the bes of the bes MMA Fighters in the history of MMA.
HE WAS A TRUE FANATIC AND VERY DEDICATED.
Many today are using a lot of his movements
Let’s see, a guy who mastered his fears versus guys who constantly say how scared they are before a fight.
Who wings a giraffe or a hyena?
@@lilnicksossou2744 wat?
Jean Claude van Damme did actually have a legit kickboxing record in Belgium/Holland in the 70's and 80's
Chael just loves to hear himself speak.
He had an amateur record. Didn't fight pro but claimed he was that level
@@theterrar3566 it's a bit of a difficult distinction because the system in the Netherlands/belgium isn't strictly amateur and professional. There are 5 levels of competition: N, C, B and A. N and C are amateur while B is high level amateur or even semi pro. A is professional level. It is reasonable for a person with 19 fights to be at A level since you will progress through the ranks rather quickly if you win a lot.
3:21 - "Jeen" Claude Van Damme. Hard to tell if Chael is just trolling at this point.
Adam Etherton Jeen Clod Vat Damn
Haha seriously there’s no way he can be this sheltered right?
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@@ImagineBeingFat Dont forget he used to call Blahoevicz a fucking woman's name by JAN
This guy is a dope and knows less than he thinks. Pretty easy math: Anderson Silva< Dan Inosanto< Bruce Lee
Even his old friend said Bruce Lee was sparring with actual fighters but he couldn’t mention their names because it’s not his place to say it, Chuck Norris is probably one case because if I make a movie with Chuck Norris than on our free time I’ll probably challenge him to sparring fight so you would definitely expect Bruce Lee to challenge him, and people who are fighters said he could handle modern day fighting and his speed was incomparable
Do you mean Jim Kelly as the old friend who couldn't mention their names ?
Jim Kelly was very vague and his claims didnt match the known timelines. Smells like bullshit probably is.
Lee was as much a real fighter as Luke Skywalker was. Unlike Lee-tards however, Skywalker nerds don't pretend that he really was a magic warrior.
If he was around today picked up the modern day mma skills he could very well be a successful mma fighter at 135 or 145 .
Blaze 11 sound statement as most on here have forgotten that the man himself studied all forms of Martial Arts combat. Bruce was forever evolving. And if you we're to put a prime Bruce in today's world with all the current training to go along with his mindset, I would feel confident on betting on him contending for a belt. He stood five feet seven inches and weighed 135, however his strength for a person of his stature was unmatched. His work ethic was also unmatched back in the day. To which his work ethic would rival or equal to some of our top MMA fighter's work ethic. We have fallen in love with the theatrics but this man was also the real deal as backed up by many people, Chuck Norris and Dan Inosanto and Robert Wall, just to name a few.
The argument is that you pick him up and drop him into the cage as he was, in which case he'd get wrecked, but yeah I'm sure he had the athleticism and work ethic to hack it. Might have even been champ.
Honestly Bruce would probably get submitted unless he fought a striker. The ground has evolved a lot.
me think, 145 may have been way too big for him... he was a small thin, light boned man weighing around 140 normally. Guys in MMA competing at 145 are normally at least 165 but up to 175lbs...
@Brett Sylvester Weili Zhang: Hold my beer
“I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks or punches, but I fear the man who has practiced one grappling move 10,000 times” - Bruce lee
Ana Sabuza "Boards Dont Hit Back"
Lets wrestle lets wrestle lets wrestle
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Ana Sabuza send me location
Good illustration on how sayings can be a bad substitute for thinking because the saying has a punchy & cool rhythm. Just say no to quotation-think.
naysayers also exist in bruce lee era, they are the same as naysayers of today, the difference is, bruce lee is alive and can answer back any challenge. he silent those naysayers in his time, the naysayers of this day can bla bla bla knowing their jaw is safe because the master is gone. 😃
Hey Chael big fan, I have a question for you I am not sure if you have been asked before. In the martial arts world are their guys who join a dojo or class or whatever and the instructors or sensei after training with them for awhile realize. “Hey this guy shouldn’t be here or is here for the wrong reasons and I no longer want to train this individual”? I ask because it’s like a person wanting to buy a gun for the wrong reason. They buy a gun because they can and they are just waiting for an opportunity to use it. I am sure in the martial arts world there are guys who want to learn it and walk around just waiting for an excuse to use the skills they have learned. Have you being an mma fighter ever seen this or guys behave in a manner like this. I have seen countless CZcams videos where mma fighters like Roger Huerta have tuned up a guy whether they had no choice or because they simply could. Thanks Chael much love and keep up the good work.
I agree completely, Bruce lee has little to no experience in mma. Bruce lee was an inspiration but he was not a fighter, anyone currently signed with the ufc would hand him a loss
"Guy who invented mma has no experience in mma" he has no experience with modern mma, but he would have learned it, he learned everything he could about every style of fighting.
Pretty sure c m punk is still under contract btw.
Ok guys Bruce Lee was training way ahead of his time most where point karate champions none contact no hits where taken including chuck Norris point karate champion. Joe Lewis mike stone was training with Bruce and advised Joe Lewis to go train with him to his surprise Lee was training full contact that's how they spared so Joe seen the light and left point karate to start what is now called American kickboxing full contact he credits Lee for excelerating his fighting style said Lee was extremely fast especially with his hands and could hit as hard as a heavy weight as he popped him a few times these interviewers are on CZcams. Joe Lewis talks Bruce Lee and kickboxing is one Joe Lewis talks Bruce Lee speed and strength Joe retired undefeated so I think he knows what hes talking about
If bruce lee was into fighting as a sport... and he was 20 years old today no doubt he would be a ufc champ.. his work ethics is a super rare commodity.. ..
Are you dumb? It takes more than hard work to be a champ.
@@StallionFernando what's it take genius? Bruce had speed, strength, agility, iq, self belief and hard work. Sounds like champ material to me
@@Percules15 that sounds like many, many, many martial artists who have sparred and competed in last century. The idea that his levels were higher than others is guessing and wishful thinking. The idea that Lee's work ethic was better than other athletes is the very example of this stupidity. Great athletes and less great athletes have dedication so does the construction worker who shows up to train before he goes to work. Work ethic is a necessity to succeed but having a good one is not any sort of guarantee.
@@Percules15 Word.
Chuck Norris said 6 years ago Bruce was stronger and faster in his fist than and he’d do good in martial arts because he’s a fanatical trainer
i never see Bruce Lee as Fighter but more of Philosopher of Martial Arts or Deep Thinker....go back watching his old interview is incredible amazing.
People are underestimating how strong and fast was actually bruce lee. Let's say McGregor or Gaethje fight with him in stand for one round I'm sure they wouldn't stand a chance if we talk about wrestling it is different story but I'm sure he would developed his skills in wrestling too if he was living in this time. So fighters like Conor Justin or Tony would be funny compared to Bruce Lee's speed power and intelligence
@@newaccount7141 you ve been a1 year fool keep it up 😂
@@laxer123 The guy invented the sport you watch dumb fool😂
@@newaccount7141 conor mcgregor said bruce lee would beat him
Back in the day (I've been a martial artist for 40 years and counting), I kept my judo training secret from my karate teacher. When he found out, he felt betrayed and it caused problems (I continued training both). I later kept my boxing training a secret. That's just the way it was.
Bruce lee on the other hand taught his student to learn all forms of fighting often oraised boxer and humbled himself to learn grappling under less brilliant people than himself. However it was backthen Bruce was to the left of it.
Thats not typical for Karate or Judo schools. The Chinese arts were the ones that frowned on it.
Alot of that mean nothing in a street fight, I've seen people that train in martial arts get stomped in the street by someone that never trained as a fighter a day in their life's there's a reason he was a actor and not pro fighter js
@@wickid-the-rogue no you havent. There are tons of youtube videos where people who trained in MMA destroy so called street fighters. Bruce wasnt a fighter because he was focused on movies.
@@cuzz63 you do understand I said martial arts not mma for a reason right.. reading comprehension is key, mma is Damm near a street fighter but a trained one I trained in kickboxing for over 10 years (with a disability mind you) and I've personally seen the teachers son get stomped in a street fight someone mind you that spent all his life training seeing his dad was a martial arts teacher, all the techniques don't mean much of anything in a fight unless you're training to actually fight like a mma fighter
If Uncle Chael says Bruce Lee fans are a bunch of stoners than Bruce Lee fans are a bunch of stoners. 🗣💭💭👥👥💭👤💭🗣💭👥💭💭💭👤👤👥💭💭💭🗣💭👤💭💭👥
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Saphire Throated Carpenter Ant nice social distancing
Actual fighters trained with him like World Kickboxing champion Joe Lewis,, Chuck Norris, etc. They all said they couldn't touch him. They said they tried BECAUSE they actually fought and couldn't believe this.. He was ahead of everyone THEN and ahead of people now. What MMA is is everything he talked about and how he trained. Even today you hear people argue about grappling vs striking and which is best. Bruce felt (and I agree) that that is foolishness. There is no superior art all the time.- Bruce Lee.
where is the video of bruce lee ?
Joe Lewis was the mf man. That’s a real fighter right there
I laughed when i seen the head line.. LOL, I'm still laughing! He would kick your ass Chael!
Bruce Lee actually trained in both stand up and grappling arts.. but he wouldn't beat any modern professional MMA fighter at 125 / 135 / 145. Though Bruce probably could beat some regional fighters of a similar size. Bruce definitely could have been taught to become an MMA fighter with his base skills, that's for sure. Like if you threw a prime Bruce Lee into AKA or ATT.. in about a year or two.. I wouldn't want to fight him.
Absolutely. He may have actually done okay with his existing skillset as long as he got to spar in the usual 6month build up to a fight.
If he had competent MMA guys sparring him for six whole months I'm sure he would figure a lot of basics out like simple double legs, how to sprawl, cage defense etc.
We should also remember that the way he acted fighting isn't necessarily the way he would attempt a real fight.
He obsessed over footwork of martial arts like fencing and western boxing. Who's to say he wouldn't have attempted some Dominick Cruz type movement?
Shinigami Bruce lee would destroy most mma fighters Just with speed alone
@@INeedJesus55 he won a boxing tournament, and he trained people that went and got belts man , he was black belted in judo , the dude with modern tools would smash anybody
Because his work ethic was mad
Anyone who’s fought understands offence is only half of fighting. Being able to handle a punch or fight through a fractured face or jaw is something Lee never proved he capable of. Nit a fighter he was a Martial Artist/Actor.
@@cherobinson6371 he was in a boxing tournament , he done multiple tournaments of karate , the karate tournaments are online , also if you where Bruce lee back in the day, you would have been constantly challenged, and he was , he was in lots of streets fights , so you just call him an actor but, also he done tons of sparring so actually you believe he is just an actor , but no you have some brain damage , there was no one that would work harder then him you clueless person
Bruce Lee's philosophy was actually to "truly express oneself" . Martial arts and the screen were his mediums but his philosophy can be applied to any individual and any medium. Essentially you take Maslow's pyramid and make expression as, or more important as food and shelter.
I have found the philosophy to be extremely powerful / accurate.
The absolute perfect breakdown of Bruce Lee!
Bruce Lees weight was lighter than Mighty Mouse on fight night.... I hope that answers this question
125-135?
A trained from a young age in mma bruce lee would be top class, devastating speed and power, shocking stamina and athleticism, technique etc
Bruce didn't have shocking stamina. Listen to his wife interview when Bruce had a real fight. Bruce got tired quickly because the fight took to long.
@@johna.favata5909 your on crack
based on?
News flash..movies arent real.
Bruce was about ending a fight in the fastest way possible. With binding speed, accuracy, and power. You're wrong about this one Chael. Bruce in his prime trained in mma would take anyone in his weight and likely the division above him. My opinion but I truly believe it.
@5AMURA1 I really doubt Bruce Lee could take the undefeated, undisputed Chael P. Sonnen
@@Eric-ih5mb they wouldn't
No he won't
The only division for Bruce Lee’s weight would be woman’s straw though lol. And after watching Joanna and Zheng. I think they’d both take him in today’s world.
@Alex 物の哀れ definitely no one in modern mma but 90's mma he probably could whoop some of them
If we jump into conclusion that someone has got everything figured, then it may be possible that someone can come out and prove that person wrong. There is the likelihood of many talented people... Wonderful analysis
Thank you for this
You're right on the money, Chael. Bruce Lee's philosophy was very simplistic and straight forward but that was his point: to inspire people to take the most "simple path" to success in combat.
I think that the fact that he didn't join competitions was his choice. He felt the competitions had limiting rules and didn't actually portray a real fight. I think he would've actually enjoyed what the UFC has accomplished.
Many world champions that did compete (Chuck Norris, Joe Lewis) would seek to be trained and train with Bruce Lee; I don't think they would have the same respect for someone like Van Damme or Segal or others that haven't contributed much to MMA.
Bruce Lee himself knew that the biggest argument against would be just that, "but he didn't fight" so he even addressed it and responded "if I say that I am good, you will say that I am cocky, but if I say that I am no good, you know that I am lying"
Check it out, from a multi-time World Karate Champion and the first Kickboxing champion, Joe Lewis (min 4:10)
czcams.com/video/AXdG577px94/video.html
Gabe Ruettiger?? Maybe?? The "carry me back in coach" guy.
He trained on his grappling and wrestling privately with Gene Lebell for over a year, returning the favour of teaching Lebell how to strike. Does this mean he could go out and beat a prime ufc fighter, probably not. But he had a better foundation than almost anybody to get to that level, his speed power and conditioning coupled with maybe a year at a good academy like aka or att training with elite fighters, and then a full 10 to 12 week camp. I think he could of easily done well against current professional MMA fighters.
2:10 There were quite a few judo guys cross-training in my karate gym though, in the 90's
Pot-smoken bruce lee fans...
Warren Angub wth was that about...
Warren Angub i swear every fan of bruce lee smoke weed
Bruce can also train like any other fighter. He's a freak of an athlete, more so than Reyes, so if he fought, definitely had a chance to become champ to the highest of levels.
cant tell if ur trolling or not
@@jcbsalexyahoo I don't think he is honestly
Reyes is not a freak athlete he lost to volkan
Bruce Lee would’ve been the kind of guy who constantly adapted his game he would’ve made himself an elite level wrestler to back up his striking he always looked for ways to evolve as a fighter
This question is in the same vein when talking about which fighters would win if you picked them from different eras.
Short answer: No. He would not beat a high level MMA fighter of UFC caliber. No matter the weight, height etc. He would lose very easily to any top 10 bantamweight.
A really good college wrestler would beat him.....sorry
There is a video of bruce in an exhibition sparring match, and his striking is on point in that
JCVD was a real fighter before he went into movies. So dont get it twisted.
Modern day NFL players would kill old school NFL players. It was a DIFFERENT time. Bruce is still a damn legend.
But you are comparing Bruce Lee from 1970s to mma in 2020. Bruce was 30+ years ahead of his time. IF he were alive today and coming up in this era, why would he not be 30+ years ahead of his time?
Skillset wise we will never know. But Bruce Lee in 1970s beat world champion martial artists like Joe Lewis and Chuck Norris in training fights. Simply Bruce Lee is the greatest martial artist/fighter of all time.
Wei Chun because of him mma exists he had to exist to show mma was the best without him doing that fighters 30 plus years away would still blow most likely lol
@@TW7S95 Ah, but you do not understand, young grasshoppah. Surely the GREATEST FIGHTAH OF ALL TIME has to never fought fight at all!
Man who fights self always draw.
@@TW7S95 hes not a fighter dude.
@Zab Gates armbar was around for 500 years.
Used by the samurai.
Have to realize that bruce was the first to mix martial arts but he did not grow up in this new style. That being said i think he would do well in his weight division.
He was not the 1st...just the most famous.
I have to agree with Chael, Bruce Lee was ahead of his time and an early fore father of MMA but Bruce Lee has nothing that would challenge pro MMA fighters in this day and age.
Exactly he was barely 135 lbs and fought midgets in Hongkong. He wasn't that strong
@@theterrar3566 135lbs that hits like a 225lbs, imagine that
@@Waterbug1591 Yeah no one has ever done that
Chael vs Fedor is the funniest thing I have seen today
“Be water my friend” 🐉 “ok great” 💪🏻
I think Bruce Lee would do well with his athletic ability and his obsessive work ethic. He would stay in tip top shape year around and would have been the ultimate student of the game I honestly think he would be a worthy champion
Wow, great and honest assessment of Bruce Lee from Uncle Chael!
Some people say Bruce lee could beat Jon Jones. Absolute nonsense.
Chael goddamit if you had him train some grappling and told him the rules he would learn quick and be a beast
Bruce lee did train grappling, it's in his book also it's known that he won a boxing tournament in his early age and on CZcams you can see him fight blindfolded , also most of his kicks where real kicks , Bruce lee trained like a maniac , the dude had his own abs exercises invented , also imagine if he had modern tools , also he probably has lots of streets fight, who wouldn't challenge him back in the day
@@TopGap415 this. There are so many uneducated people in the comment section. When you do actual
Research you find out he studied all ranges. There weren’t an holes in Bruce lee’s game. People keep pulling at straws and discrediting him. It’s very sad.
@@axelstone3131 yes , and the only reason they do it, is because he's dead ,, when people die. , People online shit on them because they can't defend themselves, these are cowards
Im pretty sure bruce felt that professional fighting with rules proved nothing because its not a real fight
Oh he was just so good he was above proving his prowess. Makes sense
Without Bruce lee I don't think people would have understood the importance of mixing martial arts.without him n people like him there would be no mma.he was a pioneer.its like saying Jimmy hendrix is an average guitar player by today's standard.
Bruce Lee had at least one real fight with a karate master, Yoichi Nakachi. Also, we know Bruce Lee sparred with karate experts, and we know what karate experts said about him…
In 1960 at age 19, Bruce fought Yoichi Nakachi, a Japanese black belt in Karate and Judo. Yoichi had pursued Bruce for weeks, wanting a match, and they had finally agreed to fight on a handball court at a local YMCA. Ed Hart timed the fight, which lasted just 22 seconds. (According to Doug Palmer the actual time was 11 seconds but Hart doubled it, not wanting to embarrass Yoichi!). Bruce hit Yoichi with a flurry of punches, then kicked him in the head, knocked him out cold, and fractured his skull. Yoichi ended up in the hospital. "This guy was a black belt in Karate and Judo," said Jesse Glover, Lee's first student. "He was fast, and his technique was excellent." The Japanese fighter arrived in his all-white karate gi with a black sash around his waist. Lee wore street clothes. Yoichi assumed a karate stance. Lee stood with his hands at his sides. Yoichi threw a kick. Lee parried it, then all hell broke loose. "Bruce straight punched the guy, landing punch after punch, all the way across the room," recalls Ed Hart. "The guy was punching back, but his punches just weren't getting there. He came off the wall and tried to grab Bruce, but Bruce spun him and hit him with both hands - one in the face and the other in the chest - and the guy flew through the air and landed on the floor on one knee." Lee closed the distance rapidly, then launched a front kick that ending up flush on Yoichi’s face with such force that he flipped over backward, ending up on his chest. "I hollered, 'Stop!' Glover says, "and the guy was out cold. He looked like he was dead."
Most of Bruce Lee’s other interactions with Karate experts were more of the sparring variety. And we know what Karate experts who sparred and trained with Bruce said about him…
Chuck Norris won six consecutive middleweight Karate championships and opened a chain of Karate schools, but he became a student of Bruce Lee. Norris told Black Belt, “The truth is Lee was a formidable opponent with a chiselled physique and technique… Lee was lightning fast, very agile and incredibly strong for his size.”
There is a 1973 handwritten letter from Chuck Norris to Bruce Lee, on Norris’s official letterhead, in which Norris admitted that he was a student of Bruce Lee and said it was a privilege to learn from him. I take the letter to be a lame apology for Norris making public statements in which he tried to make himself out to be Lee’s equal or superior and said they were training together rather than Lee teaching him. Other people may have different interpretations of the letter, but it leaves no doubt that Norris was Lee’s student and that he learned from him in a student-teacher relationship. Here is the letter, followed by a photograph of the handwritten letter on Norris’s stationary. The original letter is in the possession of Dan Inosanto and can be viewed at the Inosanto Academy of Martial Arts in Marina Del Rey, California.
“Dear Bruce, Just a note to wish you great success on the movie and to clarify any misinterpretations you have heard about our training together. I have told hundreds of people I have trained with you. My ego is not such that I am ashamed of it. It was a privilege learning from you. One thing I never do is mention you in the same breath with Kung Fu. I mention you as a master of the Martial Arts because of your proficiency in all of them, so I always say you are a master of your own Art. Anyway that is enough of that. Bruce, I hope 1973 is a great year for you and give my regards to Linda and the kids. Take care, Chuck”
William Cheung said Bruce Lee defeated Chuck Norris and that Norris became Lee’s student after he was defeated.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, who took lessons from Bruce Lee, said that when Chuck Norris and Bruce Lee sparred, Norris’s face look like an apple.
Mike Stone was nicknamed the “Animal” and he won a record 91 consecutive matches in Karate tournaments. Mike Stone also became a student of Bruce Lee.
Joe Lewis was nicknamed “the Muhammad Ali of Karate” and has been called "the greatest Karate fighter of all time." But he too became a student of Bruce Lee.
Herb Jackson said the great Joe Lewis “couldn’t touch” Lee when they sparred.
According to Jake May, in an online discussion, Dan Inosanto told friends that he witnessed Joe Lewis and Bruce Lee spar and Joe was helpless to hit Bruce. And Joe seemed to confirm this himself…
Joe Lewis, voted by top fighters and promoters as the greatest karate fighter of all time, was awed by Lee’s speed and ability. During a video demonstration of Lee’s speed punch, Lewis that he couldn’t hit Bruce with it because he went into “zen mode” and “you couldn’t hit him with a bullet, he was so fast.” The great Joe Lewis admitted that he was unable to hit Bruce. I have placed a link to the video at the bottom of this page.
In a video Joe Lewis said, “He had blinding speed, especially with his hands.”
Joe Lewis has a video on CZcams titled “What Bruce Lee Taught Me.” Now he teaches others what Bruce Lee taught him.
Why would all-time great martial artists like Joe Lewis, Chuck Norris and Mike Stone seek training from someone who “was not a fighter”? It makes no sense to say that Bruce Lee was “just an actor.” Expert witness testimony is accepted in courts, but Bruce Lee’s detractors deny the testimony of experts and ignore other evidence when they claim he was “just a celebrity” and “not really a fighter.” Again, why would the greatest martial artists of his era go to Bruce Lee for training, if he wasn’t a great martial artist and a great fighter? That would be like going to Sylvester Stallone for boxing lessons - it makes no sense whatsoever.
From what I understand, Chuck Norris studied under Bruce Lee for two years. Surely great martial artists would have recognized if their teacher didn’t know more than they did, and would have canceled the lessons as a waste of time and money.
As noted in the comments by Esosa: “All these guys, including Norris and Lewis, paying him his due as the real deal, what more do ya want? I mean, I’m a karateka myself and I know about their humongous egos. So if these guys were willing to train under Lee…?”
In the comments Dave Owens observed: “A buddy of mine is a black belt in Tae Kwon Do. He later went on to study Lee's Jeet Kune Do. He said it's the difference between tiddly winks and chess.” Dave later added: “He summed it up in that Bruce Lee took every single martial art attack from every discipline and then he figured out a counter for each one. It resembles nothing else. There aren't too many Jeet Kun Do studios because it's so stinking hard to master! You just about have to get a black belt in each discipline before you can even be a white belt in JKD.”
It also bears noting that Bruce Lee’s detractors have a timing problem. They make it sound as if Lee had no martial arts credentials and that, after his death, other martial artists tried to “piggyback” on his fame as an actor. But that makes no sense because the best-known martial artists studied under Bruce Lee before he became famous for his movies. If they had all piggybacked after the fact, the detractors might have a case, but Chuck Norris, Joe Lewis and Mike Stone became students of Lee’s after his demonstrations at the 1967 Long Beach Tournament, based on what Lee was doing in the martial arts world, not on his future fame in martial arts movies, which was unknowable at the time.
Jim Kelly won Karate tournaments and he, too, trained under Bruce Lee. Jim Kelly said Bruce Lee was:
"Untouchable"
"the Michael Jordan of martial arts"
"the Greatest"
"a level above everybody else"
Hayward Nishioka was a Judo and Karate expert who told John Little that Bruce Lee was “on a different level” and that “you couldn’t grab him.”
Tsutomu Ohshima, the great sensei, observed that Bruce Lee made Japanese karateka look foolish.
Mitoshi Uyehara, the founder of Black Belt Magazine, told John Little than “none of them [the other martial artists he knew] were at Bruce Lee’s level.”
Bruce Lee performed demonstrations at the George Dillman Karate Institute in Reading, Pennsylvania in 1967. George Dillman, a karate instructor and Muhammad Ali bodyguard, later admitted that he was unable to compare with Bruce. They sparred and Dillman was unable to hit Lee.
Skipper Mullins was a Karate expert who was friends with Joe Lewis. Mullins taught martial arts in the Marines and also to FBI agents. He won seven championships and had a career tournament record of around 1,100 wins with only 15 losses. According to his brother Dan Mullins, Skipper Mullins said that he would choose Bruce Lee in any street confirmation and that Lee was a phenomenal martial artist.
Bruce Lee did demonstrations at the 1967 Long Beach International Karate Tournament, which was hosted by Ed Parker, a Karate master who taught Karate to Elvis Presley.
During his demonstrations at the Long Beach Karate Tournament, Bruce Lee beat Dan Inosanto in an exhibition match (which was recorded). Inosanto later became a Bruce Lee student. Jim Kelley recalled Bruce beating everyone, and the participants included names like Chuck Norris, Joe Lewis, Jhoon Goo Rhee, Ed Parker, Vic Moore and himself. As further evidence we have the fact that some of the biggest names in martial arts soon became students of Bruce’s after the Long Beach Tournament. In September 1967, Bruce Lee began training martial arts champion Mike Stone. In October 1967, Chuck Norris became a student of Bruce Lee. In January 1968, Bruce began giving private lessons to Karate champion Joe Lewis.
He was a great trainer and Martial artists, but he is not a proven fighter, Bruce Lee would lose to any Top 5 MMA contenders and champions in any MMA organization. People use to debate about who would win Bruce or Chuck.....Well Chuck Norris was tapped out in 45 seconds by one of the gracies, maybe Bruce would of done better or worse but the result would be the same. The idea that Bruce could waltz in into a MMA organization and beat proven fighters in the cage or on the streets have no idea what they are talking about.
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