I could say that this is the most beautiful, the most lovely of Bruckner's symphonies, the most "Schubertian." The ninth one is the most sublime; the eighth, the most overwhelming; the seventh, the most moving. I have nothing so short and simple to say about the others yet… Bravo, Bruckner; bravo, Celibidache, and bravo, MPO. Thank you for sharing this video, keep up the good work, and best greetings from Spain.
¿Desde España y, teniendo la mejor lengua, una materna más hablada que el inglés, escribes en la lengua del Enemigo tradicional de Alemania y el Reino de las Españas?
I have heard Bruckner's 5th Symphony performed many times and have more than 40 CDs of it. Maestro Celibidache's live recording of his performance of this piece at Tokyo Suntry Hall in 1986 is truly a performance that surpassed human achievement. In other words, It was a "divine performance". Of course, the Munich live performance in this video is also very very good.
You really ,I mean Really know what you are taking about! And why not? You also have the extensive experience to back it up. i look forward to your future observations.
Perhaps I love each of his notes too much and Master Celibidache did it always transparently readable as you follow the composer's thoughts during the reading of the score. Perhaps I have stepped in such a mood during my years and life turbulences...the each Celi's Bruckner is a remedy on the open wound, fantastic!
Un compositor enorme, un director y una orquesta haciendo arte a gran altura. Bruckner y Celinbidache. Gracias a todos ellos y al editor de este sitio.
The perfection and splendor of this performance of No. ５conducted by Sergiu Celibidache is beyond description and unfathomable Immeasurable just intoxicated by the overwhelming power , majesty and warmth that surrounds my heart of this No. ５ From Tokyo of the Land of the Rising Sun 🇯🇵
The finest ever Bruckner conductor. His tempi are perfect and you can actually here individual instrumental lines that are smothered out by the full orchestra in other performances. Extensive rehearsals pay off.
that makes some sense. Bruckner didn't catch on for me with other conductors, some of them fine Brucknarians. It was Celi's approach which helped me hear the music in a way I wasn't hearing it before. I now prefer the interpretations of a few other conductors a bit more, Wand to name one, but Celi's Bruckner will always be, for me, timeless!
The only conductor who understood the right tempi in Bruckners works. Also Celibidache had a very very good ear and we was thinking a long time about an interpretation, before a Bruckner Symphony started. Once he said, nobody had such a feeling about polyphonic and harmonic structures like Bruckner, except Mozart and Bach. Celibidache, MPO and Bruckner are absolute awesome.
I agree but try out the 4th symphony with the Frankfurt Radio Orchestra conducted by Inbal. One of the finest performances of a Btuckner symphony you will ever hear, with a terrifc orchestra and wonderful recording quality. The first horn is magnificent throughout. all on CZcams. Enjoy.
A symphony river.. A fair and epic interpretation. An orchestra that sounds wonderfully All graciously and effectively interpreted by a renowned and probably proftively human chef
At the helm of a superbly disciplined Munich Philharmonic, Celibidache seems to abolish the notion of time, stretching melodies like caresses, completely forgetting himself to let the music occupy the field alone. The nobility and the gigantic breath imparted to this music from another world by Celibidache create an intense and unforgettable emotion. Like an open door to eternity. Was Bruckner made for Celibidache or the other way around?
So wonderfully put. Celibidache's tempii are in my humble opinion just perfect. His extensive rehearsal times result in performances that allow the listener to hear every single instrumental line without being drowned by the full orchestra. No other conductor can compete with him when it comes to Bruckner.
At 47:04, I guess that's a cough. Whoever let it escape, waited until the last pizzicato of the Adagio, before letting go. Then two minutes of coughing and retuning. Glories of live performance.
He wasn't connected by schooling like Mahler and the rest .In person he was rather a countryfolk.His learning wasn't enough to endear him to Viennese or anyone else. Mahler as a Jew was much better at getting important posts and working thru the hoops . And in 2022 few people wanna listen to a 90minute symphony. 3rdand 4th Symphonies have gorgeous melodies and lighter textures . Starting with No.5 Bruckner gets closer to the 20th century but he's still oldfashioned.Mahler was more to the now and anxiety and cruelty of 20th century. I prefer Messiaen & Boulez Roger Sessions.Even the Vaughan-Williams symphonies are less taxing with their unfolding melodies but the English are afraid of harshness and the truth.Ustvolskaya kicks their butts each and every time! I aint got time for Romantic era .
El tema del primer movimiento es el mítico "somos tricampeones" o "lolololololooolooo", me extraña que no lo haya dicho nadie aún en los comentarios, minuto 21:45
The Bruckner 5th is a particularly fragile piece of work..It took a conductor of the calibre of Celibidache to hold this symphony together. Maybe, just maybe, the MPO under the baton of Celi was the best in the world.
Bruckner senfonileri bana hep ıssızlıkta bulunan mucizeleri hissettirir. İnsandan uzak ama insanın hep muhtaç olduğu yerler. 5. Senfonisi bu durumu en çok hissettiren eseri olmalı. Türkiye de yaşamış olsaydı mezarı Türbe yapılıp adaklar adanırdı.
Celibidache, the man who stops the clocks and makes fun of the metronome. He directs, like someone who is bullfighting with his cape, the set of the veronica again and again, with incredible slowness. He was also a gypsy, like some of the most extraordinary creators of cape bullfighting.
Just one complaint...and it's nothing to do with the magnificent performance. What has the camera director got against the horn section? Especially in the final glorious pages of this score the horns play a pivotal role as much as the other brass, but there's not one single shot of the horn section. Very bad direction.
Nen herzlichen Gruß an Sonja R, die mir Don Celibidache empfohlen hat, zu u.auf "Liebreiz! bei Carsten Pötter hier: czcams.com/video/bIMGfCqGabw/video.html&lc=Ugz0z5O1qsXchi3Aua94AaABAg.9TRqNQ0xsFA9ZEzm5UszYB Danke danke danke liebster Andrej Popescu !
@@tobiaspeter6555 I'm no feminist and not very political either. It just looks unusual even unnatural to see an all male orchestra anymore. almost has a gay look to it.
@@tobiaspeter6555 you mean like the SF gay men's chorus? it's ok but an orchestra imo represents the culture and just as many women are now graduating from top music schools across the country, if not more then men. the best orchestras should reflect that imo.
Yes,Celibidache was a great Bruckner conductor. But the way he treated Abbie Conant the only woman in the brass section, is one of the worse examples of misogyny you will ever discover. Abie Conant was employed by Munich Philharmonic as principle trombonists out of 33 others taking a "BLIND" audition. What happened next should be made into a feature film. But don't take my word for it. Check it yourself. Thankfully after twelve years there was redemption for Abbie. I reiterate Celibidache was one of the greatest Bruckner conductors. Except in his tempi,. gone mad in a recording of the seventh symphony. But here in the fifth we hear, perhaps the finest version of Bruckner's finest finale coda's. With Abbie Conant and the rest of the brass at the fore.
Manages some magnificence, grandeur and transparency, conducting with no score, but the welter is imposed and affected in both fast and slow material where he falls to notions of Bruckner the aimless wanderer; ethereal ideas are consciously slowed followed by hurried anxious tuttis and abrupt entires. First mov has pauses for effect alternating with the orchestra howling out, half-heartedly to find Bruckner, more to find Celibidache; even his stance physically here is above the players. The slow mov plods as he thinks it should instead of what it’s actually trying to do and I had to skip forward from here, with the scherzo again scatterbrained alternation of static and manic; this work has the problem of dragging and its content not justifying its length but he knows nothing of this and lacks the stature to see any longueurs. Overall this is contained and controlling from a smaller mind, manufactured and failing to let the music be itself and soar; stupid camera work as ever. I watched this on television- I was 15 or 16 and wasn’t too impressed then…
Yes I've also noticed how he performs symphonies by other composers in the same way as when he performs Bruckner-doesn't matter who the composer is, always every time without fail, his hands are waving around all over the place!! It's uncanny!
A seven nation army couldn't hold me back from enjoying this.
I. 1:32 Adagio - Allegro
II. 24:23 Adagio, Sehr Langsam
III. 48:18 Scherzo, molto vivace
IV. 1:03:20 Finale, Adagio
There is only one Bruckner.
There is only one Celibidache.
Nothing else matters.
Metallica \../
But that's Metallica...
I could say that this is the most beautiful, the most lovely of Bruckner's symphonies, the most "Schubertian." The ninth one is the most sublime; the eighth, the most overwhelming; the seventh, the most moving. I have nothing so short and simple to say about the others yet… Bravo, Bruckner; bravo, Celibidache, and bravo, MPO. Thank you for sharing this video, keep up the good work, and best greetings from Spain.
the best Bruckner imo is the Adagio or second movement of the 5th symphony. could be the most beautiful divinely inspired ever written by anybody.
¿Desde España y, teniendo la mejor lengua, una materna más hablada que el inglés, escribes en la lengua del Enemigo tradicional de Alemania y el Reino de las Españas?
I thought I knew this work well. When you hear a different performance of a work, it is like hearing the work for the first time.
I have heard Bruckner's 5th Symphony performed many times and have more than 40 CDs of it.
Maestro Celibidache's live recording of his performance of this piece at Tokyo Suntry Hall in 1986 is truly a performance that surpassed human achievement.
In other words, It was a "divine performance".
Of course, the Munich live performance in this video is also very very good.
You really ,I mean Really know what you are taking about! And why not? You also have the extensive experience to back it up. i look forward to your future observations.
Once you have heard Celibidache´s Bruckner you´re spoilt for anyone else.
its funny because its true
Absolutely! Add Celibedache and The Munich
'City Slickers' and you achieve incomparable excellence!
Perhaps I love each of his notes too much and Master Celibidache did it always transparently readable as you follow the composer's thoughts during the reading of the score. Perhaps I have stepped in such a mood during my years and life turbulences...the each Celi's Bruckner is a remedy on the open wound, fantastic!
And all conducted from memory! 😲
@Jeb Clar I'm sorry, IT'S COMPLICATED!!
Bruckner will sublimate the solemnity in the realm of God into Symphony No. 5
From Tokyo of the Land of the Rising Sun 🇯🇵
If there is one piece that epitomizes absolute music this is it. What a performance!
Un compositor enorme, un director y una orquesta haciendo arte a gran altura. Bruckner y Celinbidache.
Gracias a todos ellos y al editor de este sitio.
The perfection and splendor of this performance of No. ５conducted by Sergiu Celibidache is beyond description and unfathomable
Immeasurable just intoxicated by the overwhelming power , majesty and warmth that surrounds my heart
of this No. ５
From
Tokyo of the Land of the Rising Sun 🇯🇵
The finest ever Bruckner conductor. His tempi are perfect and you can actually here individual instrumental lines that are smothered out by the full orchestra in other performances. Extensive rehearsals pay off.
that makes some sense. Bruckner didn't catch on for me with other conductors, some of them fine Brucknarians. It was Celi's approach which helped me hear the music in a way I wasn't hearing it before. I now prefer the interpretations of a few other conductors a bit more, Wand to name one, but Celi's Bruckner will always be, for me, timeless!
His tempi are perfect with his phrasing. Other conductors wouldn’t be able to hold these tempi without the music disintegrating.
I can't believe I listened to the whole thing.
The only conductor who understood the right tempi in Bruckners works. Also Celibidache had a very very good ear and we was thinking a long time about an interpretation, before a Bruckner Symphony started.
Once he said, nobody had such a feeling about polyphonic and harmonic structures like Bruckner, except Mozart and Bach.
Celibidache, MPO and Bruckner are absolute awesome.
Brilliant! What an incredible symphony!
Such power.
A symphony not for the faint of heart.
More for the pure of heart!
lmao
I haven't been a fan recently. Nowadays I can't listen to nobody's Bruckner except Celi's.
Please listen to Gunter Wand with Berlin orchestra in 1991. Nice also.
Sinopoli's Bruckner is also nice I think.
I agree but try out the 4th symphony with the Frankfurt Radio Orchestra conducted by Inbal. One of the finest performances of a Btuckner symphony you will ever hear, with a terrifc orchestra and wonderful recording quality. The first horn is magnificent throughout. all on CZcams. Enjoy.
I agree completely. While some say Celibidache’s tempi are too slow, I think that others are too fast. Who really wants this to ever end?
@@christophebouttemy3238 no
Best conductor of all times, still underrecognized composer
Quite agree . You hardly ever hear live performances of the 2nd or 3rd symphonies for example and they are both gems!
@@BritinIsrael he might be talking about celibidache as a composer.
Totally agree!!
@@1celibidache224 i think so
"Best conductor of all times" give me a break ingnorant, there is nothing like "the best "
and Bruckner is a Good second rate composer.
Maestro Celibidache was born to conduct Bruckner
Interrupting Bruckner's simphony with ads??...it is a crime!
It's CZcams. Use Adblock Plus or uBlock origin.
A symphony river.. A fair and epic interpretation. An orchestra that sounds wonderfully All graciously and effectively interpreted by a renowned and probably proftively human chef
At the helm of a superbly disciplined Munich Philharmonic, Celibidache seems to abolish the notion of time, stretching melodies like caresses, completely forgetting himself to let the music occupy the field alone. The nobility and the gigantic breath imparted to this music from another world by Celibidache create an intense and unforgettable emotion. Like an open door to eternity. Was Bruckner made for Celibidache or the other way around?
So wonderfully put. Celibidache's tempii are in my humble opinion just perfect. His extensive rehearsal times result in performances that allow the listener to hear every single instrumental line without being drowned by the full orchestra. No other conductor can compete with him when it comes to Bruckner.
Qué versión racional y emocionalmente impecable. Un estudioso de la obra al detalle. Todas sus versiones son llenas de pasión
i concur
Excellent description ! 🙏🤗
To answer your question directly Pierre, Celibidache was made for Bruckner.
1:27:15
Someone just can't resist singing
좋은 영상 올려주셔서 고맙습니다.
Thank you~()
That camera-zoom-out beginning at 27:31 suits the music perfectly! Nice idea!
21:30 seven nation army be like
Came here just for this >_< thanks
Thanks, this helped a fuck lot
same
seven nation army 🐰❤️
seven nation army super :)
O-o-o-o ! STUPENDO
This is where Jack White got the riff for "Seven Nation Army."
What part?
@@joshdee4427 4:38
21:30 among others.
The Master at work.
Jack White's favorite symphony!!
seven nation army 🐰❤️
Groan
Wow what a find ❤❤
Celibidache....imens.
1:18:15 "Knock it off!" Superb concentration.
Melodías amplias fuerte y suaves propias del maestro Bruckner muy bien
1:22 Wie streng und maßregelnd der Celi die Husterer im Publikum gleich mal direkt mit seinem Blick zum Schweigen bringt. Super :)
gonna listen to this piece today in Köln ^^
At 47:04, I guess that's a cough. Whoever let it escape, waited until the last pizzicato of the Adagio, before letting go. Then two minutes of coughing and retuning. Glories of live performance.
Yeah quite- very annoying...
27:30 I get those goosebumps every time!
u come around
41:28 magnifique !
Master Celibidache!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
still a Master
geliebter Meister.....
What a performance! 😀
Bruckner was a genius.Why could he be so underestimated in lifetime?Unbelievable.
He wasn't connected by schooling like Mahler and the rest .In person he was rather a countryfolk.His learning wasn't enough to endear him to Viennese or anyone else. Mahler as a Jew was much better at getting important posts and working thru the hoops . And in 2022 few people wanna listen to a 90minute symphony. 3rdand 4th Symphonies have gorgeous melodies and lighter textures . Starting with No.5 Bruckner gets closer to the 20th century but he's still oldfashioned.Mahler was more to the now and anxiety and cruelty of 20th century. I prefer Messiaen & Boulez Roger Sessions.Even the Vaughan-Williams symphonies are less taxing with their unfolding melodies but the English are afraid of harshness and the truth.Ustvolskaya kicks their butts each and every time! I aint got time for Romantic era .
Felicitări pentru upload!
Cred că e cea mai bună interpretare, peste Bernstein sau Karajan.
30:05 chills...
El tema del primer movimiento es el mítico "somos tricampeones" o "lolololololooolooo", me extraña que no lo haya dicho nadie aún en los comentarios, minuto 21:45
The Bruckner 5th is a particularly fragile piece of work..It took a conductor of the calibre of Celibidache to hold this symphony together. Maybe, just maybe, the
MPO under the baton of Celi was the best in the world.
One of the most complex symphonies ever created.
Bruckner symphonies feel and sound more like tone poems.
if they are they go way beyond Franz Lisz. they are symphonies however. the unity the unfoldnent... especially the fifth.
Per fect : D
So ist es🎻🎻🎻🎼🎼🎼
1:15:35 the fugues becomes a lot more interesting !
Bruckner senfonileri bana hep ıssızlıkta bulunan mucizeleri hissettirir. İnsandan uzak ama insanın hep muhtaç olduğu yerler. 5. Senfonisi bu durumu en çok hissettiren eseri olmalı. Türkiye de yaşamış olsaydı mezarı Türbe yapılıp adaklar adanırdı.
Celibidache, the man who stops the clocks and makes fun of the metronome. He directs, like someone who is bullfighting with his cape, the set of the veronica again and again, with incredible slowness. He was also a gypsy, like some of the most extraordinary creators of cape bullfighting.
30:05 🔥🔥🔥
warmth
warmth
Six flutes!
Celibidache was otherworldly here.
The camera seem to not like french horns because the brass section seem to only consists of trumpets, trmobonbes and tuba.
1:23:42 FANTÁSTICO!!! ESPETACULAR!!! BRAVO!!!! 👏👏👏👏
Grandisimo codaa
One of the most powerful and the grandest of all the codas I ever heard! Super powerful.
bravo!
Just one complaint...and it's nothing to do with the magnificent performance. What has the camera director got against the horn section? Especially in the final glorious pages of this score the horns play a pivotal role as much as the other brass, but there's not one single shot of the horn section. Very bad direction.
GREAT
❤
21:30 just leaving this here for myself
ブルックナーは僕の魂です😢
Excellence in a cultural wasteland
13:13の所はブルックナーらしい宇宙を感じさせる好きな部分ですがチェリビダッケさんがとても細かく(特にバイオリンに)指示しているなと表情から感じます。
01:03:50
Hes using a pretty colossal orchestra there. Scored for twin woodwind, not 130 ...
True, and yet at certain passages it is still drowned by the blaring brass instruments
5:24 they're playing Seven Nation Army 😂
Unusual to conduct without a score - especially for a work lasting 1+ hours!
The best and is miss .
He never heard this symphony 😢
Great performance, but absolutely ruined by having an advert that cuts in after the first few minutes of the 1st movement.
1:11:45
50:30 celibidache screaming always
Beguining at 1:27
Ein Tyrann ---- aber ein genialer !!
Wer genau? Bruckner ein Tyrann?
@@malte996 Nein, Celibidache
So ein scheiss. Bruckner war ein einsamer Mensch
21:26
5:30 Whitestripes, 7 nation army.
Is that Rainer Kussmaul as concert master?
The coda (the end bit) was played at Hitler's 50th Birthday parade.
Seven Nation Army 21:25
Damn; you are right:0)
Peace and Much Groove.
True
I came looking for this comment
. .
Nen herzlichen Gruß an Sonja R, die mir Don Celibidache empfohlen hat, zu u.auf "Liebreiz! bei Carsten Pötter hier: czcams.com/video/bIMGfCqGabw/video.html&lc=Ugz0z5O1qsXchi3Aua94AaABAg.9TRqNQ0xsFA9ZEzm5UszYB
Danke danke danke liebster Andrej Popescu !
Is the tympanist Stefan Gagelmann?
Yes, following the wonderful Peter Sadlo.
Who is the young Timpanist ?
I am not 100 % sure, but it should be Stefan Gagelmann. Still playing in the orchestra!
Furtwangler is done in 70 minutes. Did he make cuts. Celibedache was so jealous of Karajan for obvious reasons .
Not likely.
4:37 poo popopo po pooo po... se stai cercando proprio quello
21:31 più maestoso
B. Ces aaaaaa mas
1:27:20 Do you hear him singing too?
mco, Yes. He always does.
@@maria-nh8qo usually he yells.
@@SUPER80s Yes, you are right. That's more accurate.
few women in the orchestra.. equals an old recording. still, One of the best performances of this symphony, especially the 2nd movement.
What do women in the orchestra have to do with quality? The best orchestras in the world were and are (nearly) male only orchestras.
@@tobiaspeter6555 I'm no feminist and not very political either. It just looks unusual even unnatural to see an all male orchestra anymore. almost has a gay look to it.
@@larryprimeau5885 And even if so, what's wrong about a gay look?
@@tobiaspeter6555 you mean like the SF gay men's chorus?
it's ok but an orchestra imo represents the culture and just as many women are now graduating from top music schools across the country, if not more then men. the best orchestras should reflect that imo.
@@larryprimeau5885 They do
most conductors can't conduct that slow… it gets messy . he is the only one whi can!
jetzt polnisch: ostani wielki......
Terrible, the conductor making noise during a performance at 50:30!
Sehr sorgfältig geführt, tolles Klangbild. In meinen Augen und Ohren etwas zu entspannt - packt mich nicht.
Yes,Celibidache was a great Bruckner conductor. But the way he treated Abbie Conant the only woman
in the brass section, is one of the worse examples of misogyny you will ever discover. Abie Conant
was employed by Munich Philharmonic as principle trombonists out of 33 others taking a "BLIND"
audition. What happened next should be made into a feature film. But don't take my word for it. Check it
yourself. Thankfully after twelve years there was redemption for Abbie.
I reiterate Celibidache was one of the greatest Bruckner conductors. Except in his tempi,. gone mad in
a recording of the seventh symphony. But here in the fifth we hear, perhaps the finest version of Bruckner's
finest finale coda's. With Abbie Conant and the rest of the brass at the fore.
Yes, Celibidache was great.
Manages some magnificence, grandeur and transparency, conducting with no score, but the welter is imposed and affected in both fast and slow material where he falls to notions of Bruckner the aimless wanderer; ethereal ideas are consciously slowed followed by hurried anxious tuttis and abrupt entires. First mov has pauses for effect alternating with the orchestra howling out, half-heartedly to find Bruckner, more to find Celibidache; even his stance physically here is above the players. The slow mov plods as he thinks it should instead of what it’s actually trying to do and I had to skip forward from here, with the scherzo again scatterbrained alternation of static and manic; this work has the problem of dragging and its content not justifying its length but he knows nothing of this and lacks the stature to see any longueurs. Overall this is contained and controlling from a smaller mind, manufactured and failing to let the music be itself and soar; stupid camera work as ever. I watched this on television- I was 15 or 16 and wasn’t too impressed then…
Celibidache is only good at Bruckner's music. He interprets other composers' music exactly like performing Brukner.
I respectfully disagree. Tbh. I prefer his Brahms, Dvorak and Tschaikovsky better than his Bruckner.
@@mr-wx3lv his Brahms published by DG sounds a bit normal. His early work sounds ok actually but not his late work.
Yes I've also noticed how he performs symphonies by other composers in the same way as when he performs Bruckner-doesn't matter who the composer is, always every time without fail, his hands are waving around all over the place!! It's uncanny!
@@mr-wx3lv YEEEEEES