Scythe or Omega 300?
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- čas přidán 9. 03. 2024
- Trying to decide between the SilencerCo Scythe and Omega 300? Hear and see some differences in weights with different end caps along with a quick showing of the Chimera.
Sig Cross .308 with Primary Arms 3-18x50 ACSS HUD DMR scope on UTG Pro Low rings
Ruger American Ranch 7.62x39 with Primary Arms 1-6 ACSS Raptor
PTR 91 with Primary Arms 4-14x44 ACSS HUD DMR scope, clubfoot stock with rubber buttpad and Franklin Armor HK-C1 binary trigger with HK Parts aluminum ambi safety selectors
Hornady 308 Match BTHP
Detroit Ammo 7.62x39 220 grain subsonic brass case
Wolf 7.62x39 123 grain
What first amazed me about the Omega on a 20" .308 was it was quieter than a 22 LR supersonic. It is really amazing.
I did a side-by-side with my Thunderbeast Ultra 9 .264 bore on my Sig Cross 6.5 versus my Bergara B14R 18” 22LR and it really did sound the same! I think maybe the sonic crack on the 6.5 Creedmoor was a tiny bit louder because of pressures of a heavier bullet, but I’m not sure. 22LR really has all the bang gone by time it reaches the end of the barrel and is only giving out sonic crack. It’s amazing what good silencers can do.
Awesome video! I really appreciate the comparisons and attention to detail.
Thanks! I wanted to hear the differences myself, if there was any, and I’m happy to share everything.
Are you planning on getting one or another?
@@RangeToyzI put the Omega 300 on an 8" barrel AR using subsonics. It's quieter than most paintball guns!
@@deebee4575 those Omega baffles are way better than cones or old school K baffles :)
@RangeToyz I actually have the Omega 300 on my 300 Blackout pistol I built. It's great!
I just picked up my SiCo Omega after a 768 day wait. Eager to try it out. It is much lighter than my other Cans.
Thanks for a great video
Nice collection
Wow, that’s a big wait time! I’m guessing you did it as a trust? I’m still counting the days for my BOGO. I think I submitted my paperwork August of last year. They did a lot of sales.
Thanks so much looking forward to seeing that
Kool video, I have the cross .308 as well I put the EVO on it via direct thread....amazing!
Thanks! I bet that EVO sounds great and the price is right!
It's awesome, the gf and I were running the omega 36m, hybrid 46 and that omega 300, evo is like not having anything on the barrel ....now let your imagination go to the evo on the new .308 sig cross trax ...it is crazy light-weight, luv that gun can't wait for the season to open!!!!!!
@@RangeToyz
Keep it up, brother!
Thanks! More suppressor difference videos coming soon…
I ve been pondering this exact question
Glad to help! What’s your thoughts now?
Just learning about these. How much of a difference do you think the brake added to the scythe equals noise for the shooter? Ive shot unsuppressed rifles with brakes and will never do it again with double hearing protection. I'm only looking for something for a hunting application. The scythe is high on my list for sure. Thanks
@@IvanMcKnight thanks for asking and good question. The Scythe is a medium length suppressor that’s great for getting below the 140 decibel OSHA threshold for impact sounds and permanent hearing damage. With the brake, it’s quiet enough for a short or even a few more without ear plugs or muffs. Shooting a 10 shot magazine without ear protection is a bit much though for comfortable shooting out of a 16” 308. With the flat cap instead, it’s a small, but noticeable difference. With one shot, you really can’t tell that much. Being so lightweight and short, I think it’s perfect for hunting. Silencershop has the Scythe in black now exclusively and I wish I waited and got the one.
I hear you on muzzle breaks. I broke in my PTR 51P 8.5” 308 with the 2 port ASR brake 200 rounds and foamies and never wanted an unsuppressed gun again lol Felt like the fillings were going to fall out of my teeth.
My scythe TI was approved in 2 months time and I'm going to run it on a 9" 300 BLK Virtus shooting mostly subs with an occasional mag of supers. I've heard it sounds great with 300blk subs. Watching your video, it was hard to tell any difference between the standard omega 300 which I also have. The Omega 300 has also been goldilocks for sound, weight, and durability on many gas guns for me for many years
Right on! Yeah, all three cans, including the Chimera, have Omega baffles, so I think the sound and back pressure are basically the same. If you’re going mellow with supers on your 300 blackout, you’ve got a ssh feather on the end of your gun ;)
I’ve got the original Saker 7.62 on my 300 blackout right now. The Omega 300 is shorter, lighter and quieter. I’ve got a binary trigger in it as well, but I think I’ll be dumping one or two mags at once :)
@@RangeToyz just picked up an SP5 as well, and I think I need a binary for that. Been watching tons of your videos, so thanks for that. I believe I'm just up north of you in the big city 😂
Awesome comparison. Id be interested to see how the scythe ti compared to the nomad ti and enticer s ti. Or any other titanium ~30cal cans in a similar size range
Thanks! I just looked at Pew Science and the Enticer S Ti is rated barely better than the Nomad Ti. Might not be able to hear the difference or notice the back pressure difference. The Scythe isn’t on there yet, but I’m curious too. You can see other ones as well in the big list. It’s longer with the most recent reviews.
Nice! Good choice in comparison! Is the biggest difference lighter and shorter?
The Scythe with single port anchor brake is about the same size as the Omega 300 with Bravo front cap when they both are direct thread, but the Scythe is almost half the weight. The Scythe is best for a light firing schedule. It gets hot quick and you might’ve seen the mirage in the Tactacam, but cools down quick.
I’ll be running my Omega 300 binary on my PWS MK109 MOD2-M 300 blackout and I think it will handle it just fine. I won’t dump more than two mags at once with supersonic ammo, to make sure I won’t bubble or discolor the paint.
I think they really sound the same
@@RangeToyz yeah I was thinking the same about suppression level sounding similar
@@Keep_It_Loaded the price of the base model of the Omega 300 is great, especially when I have a spare ASR mount to use with it.
How do you like the anchor break on the omega
When it was on my PTR 91, I used it for quite awhile. The gun is so heavy though with a bipod, I decided to get the Bravo front cap. There wasn’t too much change in recoil and I really enjoy the shorter length.
I’m using the Omega 300 on the Ruger American Ranch in 7.62x39 right now and like the short Bravo front cap more than any felt recoil reduction with the Anchor brake.
Shooting prone on the lightweight 308 Cross, it did help to not have the scope hit my hat from recoil when firing.
I’m definitely keeping that single port anchor brake on the Scythe because it’s so short. I think it does a little something for recoil and it’s actually lighter weight than the Bravo flat cap.
@@RangeToyz does the single port anchor brake seem louder to you as the shooter than the bravo flat cap? where do you purchase that flat cap or does it come with the scythe?
@@IvanMcKnight the Bravo flat cap does sound a bit quieter because all the gas is directed forward and away from you instead of to the sides. It doesn’t come with the Scythe. I think I got it from SilencerCo when they had a sale, or maybe Capital Armory. I’ve gone through Hansohn Brothers for other flash hider endcaps.
I want a Scythe, but no host in mind. Love my Omega, got it when it first came out and is still pretty quiet.
SilencerCo’s website shows the decibel difference is less than one decibel on a .308 or 300 blackout and barely more on a 5.55 or 300 win mag. The Omega is a fantastic design. I wouldn’t put mine on the shelf to have a new 3D printed suppressor of equal size.
@RangeToyz yes and with the Scythe-Ti being made of titanium, larger diameter, and a single 5 port brake, you would think it would be much quieter. But they hit the grand slam with the Omega years ago with its release.
@OsamaBinSmokinTV the omega is more versatile, has lower tone and less first round pop than the scythe. The omega will handle semi auto the scythe will not
I love the longer video would love to see some more like this and if you can compare the 9k vs 45k seems the 9k is way more popular how does the 45k do with 9mm and 300blk
I appreciate that suggestion! I’ll see if I have the mounts I need and will try to do it soon :)
I’m thinking of using just this PWS MK109 MOD2-M 9.75” barrel length to save costs on ammo. Does that work for you?
I just started to make the video with my PWS MOD2-M and the piston broke! I contacted them about a warranty or a fix and I hope they get back to me soon.
@@RangeToyzlol dang well I hope they take good care of ya man and I’ll be looking forward to seeing it when it’s ready thanks for always keeping us updated
@@williamboggs1682I just uploaded the video and I’m waiting to see if it’ll get monetized. I’ll have it for you no matter what pretty soon, maybe a couple days.
I just recently got the Scythe Ti and put it on .my Sig cross 6.5 creedmor. It is stupid light. Can barely tell it's on there.
@@3ron it’s got awesome sound performance for it’s length and weight
Three oh hate doesn’t have bad recall, he says 🙃
On the American Ranch 7.62x39 subs, the Scythe sounded like it had a shorter blow down. More of a quick pop - maybe the same or close peak “loudness.” If my BOGO Omega 300 ever ships, I want to compare it against my Enticer S!
Yeah, this PTR91 is probably getting close to 15 pounds, so not much recoil 😉
I can’t wait for my BOGO as well. Glad you’re a collector of great cans too!
the ACSS HUD is a scary reticle! most people have no idea how dominant it really is
Now that I have a Tactacam, I need to get back to the 435 yard quarry I’ve been to before or even further to show the ACSS HUD reticle and it’s capabilities for sure! I want to bring this Cross 308 with the ACSS HUD DMR 3-18, Remington 700 SPS Tactical 16” 308 with 6-24 ACSS HUD DMR and my Adams Arms P2 308 with 6-24 ACSS HUD DMR
@@RangeToyz if you had to pick between the PA SLx 4-14x44 acss or a vortex venom 3-15x44 ffp which would you prefer? I'm torn between these two because I can't decide if I would rather save some money for other accessories I need by going with the SLx ACSS thats cheaper or just spend the extra money for the venom ffp scope most say is a very high quality scope close to the strike eagle. This would be going on my 18 inch 308 AR build. The only thing turning me off the SLx is the lack of lifetime warranty in case something goes wrong.
@@musek5048 I think Primary Arms turned around and made everything a lifetime warranty. You can call them directly and get an answer for sure. I love their ACSS bdc reticles and it started with the SLx 4-14x44 acss hud dmr and I still have one on my PTR91. I even sent it back for warranty years ago because my groups opened up a couple feet. I think I actually crushed the tube by overtightening the scope rings. They were good to cover that. I forget if they paid both ways or I might’ve had to pay one.
@@musek5048 I just looked at their website and it is covered by a lifetime warranty :)
@@RangeToyz thanks for that info, so would you say the difference between the two as far as clarity, turret tracking, and overall quality go is worth the extra $150 to get the venom? I don't like that the venom doesn't offer illumination but it wouldn't matter if the its not bright enough for daylight use.
can it be cleaned at home?
Really, rifle suppressors don’t need to be cleaned because the pressure of the rounds push out almost all of the carbon and fouling. A little bit of material in your suppressor will cause extra turbulence and actually make it quieter. If you notice with a scale that your suppressor is a few ounces heavier than when you got it, and that could be after thousands of rounds, there are some special solutions you can use. Breakthrough Clean Technology Suppressor Cleaner and HUXWRX Suppressor Sauce are two that I’ve heard of. They are both two-part solutions that you let your suppressor soak in. I wouldn’t use an ultrasonic cleaner, just these methods I spoke of because an ultrasonic cleaner will ruin the finish on the outside of your suppressor maybe not the first time, but definitely after two or three times.
I’ve never cleaned any of my rifle suppressors, but I did clean my Octane 9 suppressor because I ran a bunch of 22LR through it. I also have to clean my MP5SD suppressor with it’s aluminum K baffles so the don’t get stuck in the tube and the suppressor doesn’t get stuck on the gun. I use welding anti spatter spray for it and try to do it every 300-500 rounds. 22 suppressors are the filthiest with its leaded ammo that’s sometimes waxed plus the carbon deposits.
You just about lost your ring on the first shots with out the suppressors on! I was waiting to see it fall off, lol! Glad it didnt!
Good eye! That 90 degree shoulder that comes with it is pretty snug from the factory, but recoil will break it loose lol
Day 252 waiting for mine😂😂 but since they aren't going to be making the 300 anymore im glad I got one on the bogo deal
Right on! I’ve got a pending BOGO 300 that still hasn’t shipped to my dealer either. I’m probably the last one in line because my FFL had to resubmit their paperwork because it expired during the processing.
@RangeToyz totally up to you lol but what are your first 3 numbers for the bogo because I feel like im in last place lol. I'm in the 141 batch and I think they forgot about me 🤣
@@fnjay24 140 actually. So you’re saying, I might get mine quicker than you? Doesn’t help us that they had to recall some for bad welds and they’re still producing Omega 300’s for the normal marketplace. I know they’re working hard to produce them though and glad they’re being transparent.
@RangeToyz last time I'll bug you but yup you'll get yours way before me. I couldn't agree more like I get it theynhave a business to run but send the bogo out first then send to shops. Please post when you get at your dealer 🙏🏼
@@fnjay24 will do and god speed 😂
Mine was also 3 days
@@ErinOlin that’s awesome! Now the long waits are the back orders. I’m many months out on a Dead Air Mask right now.
I wish i was blessed by the NFA approval rush, but alas i have 4 cans in nfa jail at the moment... although 2 of them are at a local dealer with range.
How long have you been waiting?
@mikes8915 only since November. But cans I've bought in the past have taken 11 months.
@@scottdpugnificent yea the one b4 my last took 9 months.. good luck hope you get ur stamps real soon
You only had to wait 3 days? After almost 3 months and complaining to my Attorney General after the SCOTUS Chevron decision, I got mine out of jail a week later
If I would’ve just listen and not watch it I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference
@@RandomGuy-nh2qc the difference is that small between the two. You can see the decibel numbers on SilencerCo’s website.
@@RangeToyz I just certified my paperwork for the scythe a few days ago I hope it come back quick
@@RandomGuy-nh2qc right on! You won’t be disappointed. Did you get the Silencershop exclusive black one? Kind of wish I waited.