The Most Underrated ID Just Got Better [Limbus Company]
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- čas přidán 9. 08. 2023
- After talking about an ID I don't like, I needed a break to talk about one I do like. One you should also like. He's very cool I promise. Everyone else lies about him. Especially some website called Prydwen that may have ranked N Corp Heathcliff below N Corp Rodion in their updated tier list. Don't trust anything you see on the internet (except me).
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Fun fact: “It’s over bruv” quote of N Heathcliff (real) is a nod to what every British player says out loud when they encounter My Form Empties as the final boss of their MD2 hard run
Un-ironically NHeath was the one who killed MFE in MDH2 for me. He was one of two sinners (Heath and RoseMeur) to live and kill MFE.
thx i can see myself watching these kinds of videos daily as we lack these kinds of limbus content
If only these only took a day...I did start this channel with the idea of filling this void for Limbus content. If only it didn't take so long to make lol.
the story for NHeath makes me want to hug him and his va does a fantastic job making him sound confused, lost and when the indoctrination takes over briefly his empty, dead note voice is so good :'3
Mf just drops out of nowhere with a bunch of the most informative videos LCB community has ever seen with 0 warning
Please don't stop making these.
This is, quite literally, and without any exaggeration, the best guide/take about IDs on CZcams.
I really hope to see more content like this from you, because it's almost impossible to find a good, informative discussion on... literally any topic about LCB, especially if we ignore steam guides and reddit (wich would require *reading* , sometimes trough paragraphs on paragraphs of text just to conclude on a, sometimes contrary point to what was discussed, like "NHeath is bad" or "X ID is useless").
That's why I'm here, I try to make my content stuff I would want to watch as well, and it so happens...there's not a lot of this content out there, none from what I saw.
@@therealESGOOLimbus is still on the newer side of gacha games, cementing yourself as one of the earliest CZcamsrs, if not first to make such well edited and detailed videos on mechanics in LC is paying off well for the community.
i agree with this mans sentiment whole heartedly
i absolutely loved all ncorp ids on their release ('holy' crusades for bad things is my favourite theme), my favourites being rodya and nsault, i uptied to 4 all of them and the ncliff out of all my ids i got was the best investment ever. im happy for those 'weaker' ids to finally get some recognition. good informative channel though, im very glad to find this
my favorite released 'team' ids so far(neglect the fact its one of the early ones where u actually had 5 sinners capable of making a team), definitely was my favorite team to run in mirror dungeons pre-rework
When another sinclair chapter drops in the future, im running it back with full n corp team
Too bad they are pretty bad when work together
Same. N Corp Faust absolutely carried me through half the game. I still don't have Großhammer Meursault so sadly my collection is incomplete. Wish it was just a little easier to grind egoshards.
I noticed his strength when I was trying MD2H with N-Corp team. He is certainly a beast on T4. Now I regret I didn't uptie and level up him earlier.
How good would you say an N corp team for MD2H is and what do they struggle against (I most definitely am not considering making my mainly used non pure top tier team an N corp team)
@@AvatarOfMountainsAndLakes They're pretty decent. You can actually finish MD2H without switching to all-000. You can almost finish first 2 or 3 floors without using E.G.O-s. But having good EGO resources is pretty hard (it's pretty hard to spam Yi Sang Sunshower and some other good E.G.Os with everyone else being N-Corp, if you don't have much resource generation gifts).
Good vid! Really appreciate how PM gave some love to both of Heath's 00 ID's, as even though they might still not be as good as Rabbit or even Sunshower, they do fulfill a niche.
If it's not too much to ask, I'd be interested in a video about your thoughts on tanks in this game. Especially with the recent Zwei banner and new Aggro mechanic, I feel like tanks are more viable than ever.
Glad you liked it! Tanks are definitely a topic I will cover in the near future, as aggro is an interesting mechanic and we have gotten a lot of new tanks lately. Zwei Gregor is a lot of fun from what I have tested, so I most certainly have some things to say about him.
@@therealESGOO I love my Shi Heathcliff with all my passion, but i wish i knew how to use him better. There's something charming about him, with AEDD helping him to not drop too dangerously low. I take him everytime with my poise team, even ig he does not benefit from it.
I personally love N. Corp Heathcliff, especially his Skill 3 Infirm Retribution, tons of blunt dmg (imo at least) and, if the coin 2 staggers (and he does the staggering enemy voiceline) the coin 3 of the attack is actually in sync with the voice line! Probs un-intended but still amazing
just wished it did more than is literally at most ~6 additional damage which rounds down for some reason
WhenI usually run an N-corp team, I put N-Heath in the back for that +1 Nails but I can understand the appeal and usage of him better. Especially now that I know that his passive is actually Coin power and not Final power.
Liked and subscribed and I hope you make more content like this.b
You really just came out of nowhere with the most interesting videos about the identities, i really like em man, also, i love the gag of the end always being cutoff
Your videos are so good, I'm glad youtube decided to push them to me. They're honestly super interesting and I'm a big fan! Cant wait for more!
You were right to point out he is very adorable. Poor sad little sopping wet cat of a man. Give him a hug!
Keep up the great work! Love seeing good PM creators!
Amazing videos. You deserve much better viewership with this effort!
Thank you very much. I'm blown away by the sudden wave of support, but it's great to keep the wind in my sails after 3 days of editing.
These videos are so good, I'm glad that we're getting videos like these for LC, keep going ❤
This videos are really good. I can see you becoming a major limbus tuber. Please keep posting.
Really like the editing in this one!
Thank you for this my goodness- this and the other videos are great watches and I can't wait to see more! I've seen people simply ignore IDs and EGOs like NCliff simply because 'they're not RCliff/Faust Fluid Sac' when I feel like there's so much missed potential when you treat the game that way. I've used NCliff on a non-n corp team before due to his S2, it's an absolute god send and I'm happy you're here to spread the word.
Thank you for enjoying. I agree, it gets boring to use the same IDs over and over. I have almost entirely stopped using Rabbit Heathcliff, simply because I really enjoy N Corp and Base Heath. Helps that those two IDs are both very viable in their own right.
the quality of your videos is superb, keep up the good work
genuinely an entertaining AND educational video to watch! yippeee
Im glad i stumbled on your kurokumo hong lu video your editing style is really entertaining!
woahhh no way second limbus guide channel??!?!??!??!?!?!?! this is insane i have to binge all his content now (and subscriblr)
Before uptier 4, my first "themati" team was N-corp minus Sinclair and Meursault and I actually had relatively easy time thanks to Heathcliff's purify, I had usually random others tagging along. Rodian, Don and Heathflicc as N-corps seem like they were originally meant to team up with Grip Faust. Hell, Don seems to be even more outlier.
Happily, the N-corp family with their varied kit makes decent use of most EGOs in Mirror world.
You're extremely underrated, keep up the good work!
Appreaciate this guy since day 1 of his release,he is amazing,both on bench and on field :D
Something to note is that his passive, "Bugger...", is actually better named as "Damnit" or "Damn it all...".
Not sure why they went with Bugger, perhaps it was an attempt to further push his slang-heavy talking style(which only his en translation has).
Nothing too major, though.
Well, I've been convinced to bench my Rabbit-Cliff for the first time since playing the game to use N-Cliff! Very informative video, thank you
Look...
Look N-Cliff...
Look and be 5& less depressed as someone else finally sees your potential.
Look and weep for once with some modicum of joy as someone gives you the credit you deserve.
These videos are so good
I would say he's the best 00 at clashing with his passive requirements met. Just watched all of your videos and I respect your content a lot, I wish I could make guides, especially as easy to understand as yours. Good job man 👏 you know your stuff.
Thank you very much. In terms of best clasher…it’s difficult, if you factor in plus coin drop, he takes it, simply by making everyone else way better at clashing. Raw numbers, no one can beat Seven Ryoshu. The skill 2 rolling a 16/18 is really damn good. Alongside good offense level.
WHO SAID IT
I'm so in love with your editing my guy, I instantly subbed/notifed after your first video I watched moments ago and I may have to ration these out so I don't run out of these videos too fast.
It may sound like I'm exaggerating but seriously, this game and from what I've seen PM as a whole lacks this sort of well polished fun style of edited videos and I'm so here for these
and just a minor thing, but I believe corp is pronounced with an audible 'p', whereas it's corps (like in an army) where the p/s are silent
BTW YOU'RE SO RIGHT HIS BATTLE SPRITE IS ADORABLE
Thank you, I will keeping working hard so you don't have to ration for long!
Just started this game a few days ago and this was the first 00 ID I pulled, and through out my time of only having him to use over base I've developed an attachment to it, glad to see he has a use so I can give him the viability he deserves even if this Info is out of date
You are like the eclipse of limbus company I love this
Omg your editing is just wonderful!!! I finally understand all the debuff intricacies of the game, maybe with your vids I’ll finally get to use more balanced big brain mechanical teams instead of unga-bunga random bullshit go. 😭😭😭😭😭😭 thank you for your hard work
Glad I could help you out!
you have converted me, and I do very well agree that Ncliff would have been much more appreciated if he was released nowadays. and the biggest problem was he wqs overshadowed by Nfaust
Always glad to open people’s eyes to Ncliff.
your videos are insanely informative and funny, great work! might have to uptie him... i built him forever ago and he was honestly just Fine
Thank you very much. I would recommend if you're willing to commit to running N Corp even occasionally. He needs a pick me up.
we really need more informative LC videos... after watching your Kurokumo Hong Lu one I was surprised with the quality, despite your low sub count!
can't wait for the next video you make
Thank you very much. I'm glad to hear everyone is satisfied/surprised at the quality. I hope I can continue to surprise in that regard.
N Cliff was a part of my MD2H go to team due to his -2 coin power S2 and his S3 being pretty good (and envy gloom lust skill spread is pretty alright imo). Nullifying the +2 coin power from MD2 floor buffs is just so massive, especially with how giant some max rolls are because of it (bug bois rolling like 20 is a nightmare).
just got him today w the ten extraction ticket from the pass so im happy to see this. also
5:27 then she waddled away, waddle-waddle
nostalgic
hes still pretty solid tbh
sault losing clashes make sense, he can just heal it back. Full N Corp is my goto team for hard mirror. Chef Ryo being my 7th just due to how reliable she is and the extra healing is nice. Zippo and maybe a healing item is basically a guarantee win as long the boss isn't My Form.
love your video man keep upload more viedeo please i really need some side pm content for the dead month
I'm not going anywhere, but my philosophy is quality over quantity for now. Though as I get better at making videos, uploads should get faster so long as I have ideas. Very happy to hear you enjoyed my videos.
Congrats. You convinced me to Uptie him.
He was one of the first IDs i pulled and guy has not failed me yet
Have you thought about making a video on charge? its my fave team comp always and i really would love to see your thoughts on the mechanic as a whole (specifically with how don telepole corrosion now gives 42 charge on uptie 4, lol, lmao)
As a member of ID protection association, I am greatful for your support and this video. Also, will there be videos on other underrated IDs, like Shicliff, Zwei, and perchance even G Gregor?
EDIT: Also, you sir is a blessing. I will fight for your honor and life even if it costs me my own.
Perhaps, it's really a matter on finding enough to talk about for IDs. I did consider making this video about 3 IDs, but found I had plenty to say about Ncliff after they announced his Uptie 4 was coin power. Also, do not fight for a youtuber with only 3 videos risking your life, at least wait until I have 4 videos.
Who's saying g Greg is bad, lol? He has a really good sustain AND can easily use a cheap and powerful aoe ego.
@@user-dx1hv5nu8u people crying like "waah waah low defense level" and "waah waah he has too much stagger". Basically meta suckers.
@@therealESGOO usually I would wait for a 4th video, but the quality of yours gives me enough trust and power to fight arbiter AND a claw 2v1, and at least give you enough time to escape/call for someone stronger.
I love how the N Corp IDs get team bonuses when you use them together. I hope we get future "factions" large enough to make full teams out of with similar mechanics.
I use him for 6th or 7th slot for my MD charge team since his plus-coin drop is extremely good and stacks with W Faust's Atk Down. As the cherry on top of the cake, he has complimentary sin colours.
What a silly little fella
I'm going to use him on my MD2H runs now cause if you can coin gift, and play around bosses, he can make them do -4 coin and that's going to be a huge benefit for clashing since basically everything will over stat you even if they roll tails. I didn't care for him until UT4 came out. Having fun using him cause he makes things fun.
More like adorably cute
This was in the original script for this video.
i love you esgoo!!!!
That one comment that said Rabbit Heathcliff is hot, is potrayal of me every time I log in to hear him greets me
What about Suncliff also you have the potential to become one of the big pillars of the community with the quality of your videos
I wish I knew enough about Suncliff to form a proper opinion on him. I think he is an interesting, but all together niche ID, and that's completely fine. His value increases exponentially when EGO resources are not a problem, but that's only due to his value not being particularly high to begin with. This was almost a video talking about every Heathcliff ID, since all of them are underrated compared to Rabbit, but maybe Suncliff can get his own video in the future.
A suggestion for your future video if you don't mind:
Instead of saying "zero-zero-zero", try saying "double-O", "triple-O" or "double-zero" and "triple-zero" depends on your preference, i believe this will help by making it less awkward to say
I love playing the N Corp ID team, ever since I got N Corp Faust from the Cinq Don banner. The team synergy is great and it makes me wish I had N Corp Meursault, which I've just been using Kurokumo Ryoshu instead.
What's ur team you run?
@@squirtthesquid Anything that works, I guess. I just have fun seeing whatever teams have characters with similar premises.
I'ma keep it a 100 with you
When heat 00 nail and hammer came
I went directly to pull for him and no one else
I also thought his passive was bugged despite using him in a full NCorp team for most of my md2 hard runs. The combination of a plus coin drop on S2 and access to paralysis on AEDD are so nice against bosses with crazy max rolls like the bull
I´d like to see a videdo talking about the design filosofy of Ncorp sinclair, because IMO i think he is the best Lore-gameplay ID in the game, because perfectly incapsulate the "between two worlds " concep, he feels like a Ncorp who is not a Ncorp.
ej: Ncorp are plus sanity? he is negative
Ncorp are ok clasher (yes faust is a great clasher, but you get me)? he is a monster claser with almost unloseble coin 2-3.
Ncorp are utility base IDs with OK damage? he is one of the best and most consisten D-dealer in the game, but ONLY provide damage and a little of DOT.
yeah, i love this ID is probably my favorite one.
Your editing, analysis and jokes are top notch. Hope you'll be able to take a look at Talisman sinclair, who, in my opinion, is still nerfed by UT4.
How? You can get 5 talismans with 1 S2, and you can stack rupture easier with the count on his S3
@@epicidex1006 You can get 6 stacks of talisman on S2, if you are using him in a rapture team, which you do, which just removes his talismans from him and makes it harder to use S3. That is also not accounting for his passive, that can get him up to 9 stacks of Talisman on him.
@@kakoytazabar just make sure the person before him guards or used a non rupture attack
This is a request that foesn't need to be honored and it isn't because i see this character as underrated by the community, but could you possibly do a video on the new 000 id zwei gregor? I just wanna know how to properly use him and what he really does as part of a team as I am a bit lost on him as of now.
Nvm i think I know how to use him as a good tank.
Hey just a question, what is the program you use to edit these videos together??? Especially the parts where it's just the ID shifting between frames to convey motion?
I use Davinci Resolve, the free version. In terms of moving the IDs, that is just frame by frame animation that I do manually. Some things are via the programs Keyframes, but I do not use any other animation programs.
Finally justic for N Heath!
Tired of people calling him bad even tho he is better at clashing than rodya and N salt
YESHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Ive been running N corp up tie 4 since its drop. After farming MD and what 3 MDH in a row I have some input to some things you said.
Rodion is nowhere near the least useful N Corp or 2nd least as listed. Her rolls while they might be low in coin power, are high in coin count ; which is this units whole thing. She out of all of N corp benefits the most from Fanatic, gaining 15% damage on her skill 3 if fanatic, but also each stack of fanatic is 1 coin power. If youre running N corp, proccing whistle will happen pretty consistently, in fact there can be turns of 2-3 whistles back to back. With some SP manipulating , you can guarantee Rodion gets this coin power. Now a whistle will give 2 fanatic with uptie 4 ,and Rodion will self apply 1 fanatic. This makes for +3 coin power before resonance, and on her skill 3 totals for some very nice clashing. Not to mention resonance boosts her clash power artificially pretty significantly and pretty frequently to take into account
In practice the results speak for themselves and amount to Rodion having consistently been only about 100-300 damage behind Sinclair in result screens at the end of MDH, at one point even surpassing him. This is with proper management of his SP to make sure hes always negative. Behind Rodion by about 1000+ is N Faust or N- Heathcliff. I would argue the 2 least useful are N Meursault , and N Don since neither benefit from fanatic and neither do any damage or utility worth writing home about. Rodion is as core as Faust id say. A probable fix to N Don is up tie 4 soup to have them spam it due to an over abundance of Lust resource.
I've not built the full N Corp squad yet, but I am considering it. Just to clarify something: ingame it says fanatic gives 1 final per stack, not 1 coin power. Is that an error ingame, or an error in this comment?
@@meeszijlstra5426 pretty sure it was coin power in practice since she was rolling 24s during clash and that would add up. But also i might've miss counted from resonance , ill check back with you after double checking in isolation
This makes sense because she literally stacks up Bodies in her Hometown Backstreet in a literal TOWER she has Insane Stamina doing that Solo
Nah dude I’m pretty sure it’s final power
I’ve seen Sinclair getting boosted
So it’s definitely skill power, coin power plus does nothing to Sinclair cause he’s a negative Id
@@longphan7656 You right, i recreated the +20 rolls, it was wrath resonance with Fanatic final power total'd together.
I... think ill take this poor, tormented child with me. Maybe he will find some respite ^^
Ngl when i first got N corp Heathcliff
I have Ryoshu warakumo and Yi Sang salsu during my first banner pull and yet my N corp Heath literally the most value employee for dealing out damage and continue his streak from Canto 1 to 3 until he got on tie with Hong Lu Tingtang id on MVE
After beating Canto 3, Ncorp Heathcliff literally the MVE especially when all my main sinner Ryoshu,Yi Sang and Hong Lu die fighting against Kromer 2nd phase because support Faust got corrosion and kill everyone except for Ncorp Heath with her EGO Fluid Sac
It was total clutch during the kromer fight for how low my Ncorp Heath and support Regret Faust hp especially during the coin flip wrath check on staggering Kromer
But N rodya inflicts paralyze 😢
imagine having to relie on status effect to win clash 10-11-12 it a beyone hope to win any capeable mook just stick to your only good rodyon id rosepaner
Will you cover base ids :curious:
At some point, absolutely.
Will you, by any chance, do some sort of review of ids when they come out?
I don't really like first impression content that much. However, if people would like to see that enough, I could do ID reviews, though I don't know if my particular insight would be interesting enough.
@therealESGOO you can do some testing before doing a review. In that case, this type of video could be really helpful.
I would really love to run a 4 N Corp team using N Faust, Nclair and N Heath, but the remaining 3 options to fill that fourth slot seem so weak that it's just not worth it. Does anyone have any experience doing this and what worked for them?
I NEVER understood why people where disliking him when I got around to using him. I never actually look at his kit because I didn't really care about Heath's ID at the start of the game and gamergirl Faust took all of my attention, so I just took it at face value that he isn't particularly great. However, when I checked it later, my only reaction was confusion. He is so good! Yet people still call him bad, for some reason? It's so weird. And with the new U4 passive, he is one of the best 00 out there, I would personally even rank him above KK Hong Lu(Only in NCorp Team though, the coin power is just way too important)
tbh kk hong lu fell off after md2h was released
Wowza a23 slowburn kino-esque guide
Always been of the opinion that this dude was better than base Heath and IS the ID that you should use on Heath if you don't have R heath. Glad he's getting some recognition
Hi bro good vid. Can u make ur voice louder pls?
I dunno, I always liked this one more than LCCB Heath, dmg numbers make my monke brain go ook.
You either make a convincing arguement, or you make an arguement and i am an easily convinced/persuaded induvidual.
That's my Inquisitor! Keep punishing heretics for me.
TL;DR Coin power my beloved
Being honest I was one of those few people what praised him and believed he was a good ID
I non-ironically had more hype for him than for Faust
Unfortunately now I use him as a support, which in part hurts and not, because more nails is nice, but by this fluid sac will not be used too often
Aside from how satisfying he is to me
The problem came when Sinclair appeared
Now my team looks like this: Faust, Rodion, Don, Meursalt and Sinclair - Meursalt for wrath to quickly activate Sinclair's passive (aside from the fact that debuffs are nice) and be able to spam his EGO faster, and Rodion and Don because of Faust's passive
The problem I had with Heatcliff was that his resources are well just slightly problematic for me, but after this video I'm now in a position to think about a change, I'm thinking of replacing Don or Rodion, although more Rodion, because Don has cool debuffs, and Rodion is just a dmg dealer of which there are a lot in N Corp, well and she hardly applies nails at all, which sucks a lot
As I think about it now it would be harder to use the faust passive, but all in all when there is Sinclair you don't want to spam it too much, well and you will always have fluid sac, hmm
But I would welcome advice
I replaced Rodion and wow, I'm very happy because it's even more fun to play
And I'm so happy when I see him, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Thanks a lot for this video
Glad to have converted you to the church of Sad British Man
I always believed him to be a good ID, I'm glad I could come back to him
i only have n rodyon and n hithcliff, he is still god againts dongbeak or so no one will cry, getting a -2 coins in so no one will cry arm
1:19 "whos Catherine?" Huh
Damn see if you can amp the audio my brother in christ
6:18 doesn't TingTang Hong Lu count, since he only needs to roll heads to roll 30?
3 Coin skills specifically, though mutilate certainly does roll that funny 30 number.
@@therealESGOOgotcha gotcha. Well thank you for taking the time to answer! Have been enjoying all (well all 3) of your videos so far. Never realized how much I needed ID analysis content until now!
Well then this next video should be up your alley as well, thank you for enjoying my content.
i use ncliff because i literally only have sinclair 000's and ncliff beats like 90% of my best 00's (one of which is literally WARP FAUST (tho wfaust is the worst in my team))
He's kinda sad. You would use him only if you don't have R Heath, and you need 3 more N Corp ID's to utilize him at his fullest, but we don't get N Corp banners anymore.
one problem: You called Nclair and Nfaust incorrectly. In reality they should be NTRclair and NTRfaust
why does he say corp wrong lol
idk if he still does in modern videos, sure hope not
also before anyone tries to say he says corp right, corp pronounced 'core' is only for militairy corps, not for a shortening of the word "corporation". saying it like that makes no sense, N corp means "nagel und hammer corporation"
i want ot kiss him i wnat ot show him love i want to give him afection
and now it's time to fix Nsault he is prob worst 3 000 in the game right now
personally, I think R Corp Heathcliff is overrated, like he's definitely good, but you spend most of your time with him just having him evade until Quick Suppression is available for nuking an enemy, like he's basically designed around having an amazing single turn
imo I think he's an example of a very well balanced ID
while it is true that you literally only rely on his s3, said s3 is the strongest skill at high speeds, which is the condition you would want anyways to capitalize on the 4 fragility you apply while having high rolls
and considering something like rip space (and most other nukes) need atleast 1 or 2 turns to use while you can just use quick suppression at any time
overrated? yes, since his other skills are rather weak even if you dont compare it to s3, is he balanced tho? definitely not
@@yesno4326 yeah but there are plenty of times where you just have to wait around with R Heathcliff when you have s3 because you just can't get him to roll a 6 speed, there are plenty of times he's either died or the fight ended without him getting a 6 speed, so you really have no control over whether or not you can get s3 up to max power and sometimes just have to compromise and use it without the coin power bonus
@@yehuda8589you can just spam bodysack and use s2 or s3