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is it normal for gears or crank to be a lil off? your exhaust cam looked like the line mark was a lil bit higher than intake cam. i had that happen to but mainly after tensioner and i start rotating engine and the crank arrow looks a to the right almost a whole tooth but cams will be good.
what if the crankshaft is aligned TDC but the camshafts are misaligned by 3 gears on a k24? Would it be okay to set cylinder 1 to TDC via crank pulley markings, remove timing chain, realign camshafts and then reinstall timing chain?
The chain guide installment that you recommended that will keep the chain from jumping a notch, is that it's proper name and where did you order it from? Also on the k24 does that chain guide installment Come stock or is it ordered separately and not a part of the timing chain kit?
Just did a timing tensioner swap and of course the old one was bad. So when I took the old one off and install the new one, it jump timing. More than likely, the Chain jump several tooth on the bottom. If I set cams to align, do I need to remove chain to set crank to tdc?
Because in my lifetime of working on K-series motors I've never heard of a case where the chain broke BUT I have seen hundreds of cases where the chain jumps timing or the tensioner fails (K-series problem). So chances of a chain break, impossible, but chances of it jumping timing or tensioner failing, highly likely.
What if you did those exact steps right.. how would you know it’ll turn out ok? Do you do one full rotation and if it lands back on the dot it’s perfect? Or is it suppose to land back on the dot each time it does one full rotation?
So are the timing chain guides a MUST change or only if they are worn? Wanting to change the chain in a motor swap since I have it out already and it’s lower miles but didn’t know about the slides. That and I’m doing oem chain what about the tensioner stay oem even though they fail?
Not changing the guide's is like taking apart a transmission and changing all the gears and not changing the synchros. If it's already apart the extra little money may be worth the time to pull it all apart in the future. To do not buy anything other than OEM tensioner.
Thats what I thought but a few people told me they didn't change the slides so I wanted to make sure. And ok good thing I got as much oem stuff for the timing chain stuff as I could. But what about that lower chain guide you had on your k20, Where did you get that from and you recommend it?
Yeah you can go ahead and run non OEM stuff you want.... Bye bye K-series lol..... Honda invented the motor I'm sure they have more knowledge on it than 3rd party suppliers lol
Evans Tuning made great video about K engines. Bottom line is, if you have stock cams then OEM tensioner is the best. If you change cams to more aggressive then even aftermarket tensioners will fail. Matter of weeks maybe months if you are gentle :) tune everything but stay away from aftermarket cams otherwise reliability is going down big time.
@@ambushk2030 then you either don't have the crank pulley on right or the chain isn't lined up correctly at the top..... Lastly you need to remove both guides to line it up
@@DC502civic629 marks on chain were lined up. Guides were removed. Its about a tooth off on the crank pulley mark. I read its not biggy but i really want everything dead on.
@@ambushk2030 well if the marks are lined up then it's correct. If the guides are off then it shouldn't be an issue getting the chain where you need it to be. Lastly if you start the car and it's 1 tooth off you will get a timing check engine light. So if you start it and it's correct there will be no timing check engine light.
Thanks man really appreciate you sharing your knowledge
No problem shoot me some video ideas!!
I love the video. Next time can u show what Allen key or tool u used to take out that black nut on the timing chain guide cause I have no clue
Your videos are life saver man. Keep em coming 👍. Subscribed
Thanks man just let me know what you want to see and I'll post it up.
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Thank you very much for the video and to share your experience with us.❤️✌️✌️😉
One question, u mentioned that you got a k24. Which k24 did you use?
No problem and this isn't my motor. I'm on the K20a3. I just did this video to help people who need to know how to time a car lol.
@@DC502civic629 Thought u had a k24 and K20, s'all good. Thank tho.
I have a3's in my own personal cars lol. I just did the timing video on a k24 and k20 so people can see the difference.
is it normal for gears or crank to be a lil off? your exhaust cam looked like the line mark was a lil bit higher than intake cam. i had that happen to but mainly after tensioner and i start rotating engine and the crank arrow looks a to the right almost a whole tooth but cams will be good.
No it should not be off any. All 3 need to match correctly.
sweet video
Thanks!
On the k24 its the same thing. But why do some people push out the chain guide to get more tension???
No it's not the same, check the video I made for the K24.
Good video pal can i just say add the torq settings ect =A-plus
True I'll do that in my next video
what if the crankshaft is aligned TDC but the camshafts are misaligned by 3 gears on a k24? Would it be okay to set cylinder 1 to TDC via crank pulley markings, remove timing chain, realign camshafts and then reinstall timing chain?
No everything needs to be aligned. If it jumped timing your motor is probably hurt aka bent valves. These engines are interference motors.
The chain guide installment that you recommended that will keep the chain from jumping a notch, is that it's proper name and where did you order it from? Also on the k24 does that chain guide installment Come stock or is it ordered separately and not a part of the timing chain kit?
I ordered it from the shop in the description I get all my stuff from them
Just did a timing tensioner swap and of course the old one was bad. So when I took the old one off and install the new one, it jump timing. More than likely, the Chain jump several tooth on the bottom. If I set cams to align, do I need to remove chain to set crank to tdc?
If it jumped teeth you just need to start over and watch the video instructions.
Whats your thoughts on ebay k timing chain kit?
DO NOT BUY. Seen engines blow up with them! Go OEM for sure. You can cheap out on alot of things but not the timing stuff.
Whats the use of a chain guard if its an interference engine. When the chain breaks, the pistons will hit the valves. That or im wrong
Because in my lifetime of working on K-series motors I've never heard of a case where the chain broke BUT I have seen hundreds of cases where the chain jumps timing or the tensioner fails (K-series problem). So chances of a chain break, impossible, but chances of it jumping timing or tensioner failing, highly likely.
What if you did those exact steps right.. how would you know it’ll turn out ok? Do you do one full rotation and if it lands back on the dot it’s perfect? Or is it suppose to land back on the dot each time it does one full rotation?
When you start the engine it will let you know if it's one tooth off or not
So are the timing chain guides a MUST change or only if they are worn? Wanting to change the chain in a motor swap since I have it out already and it’s lower miles but didn’t know about the slides. That and I’m doing oem chain what about the tensioner stay oem even though they fail?
Not changing the guide's is like taking apart a transmission and changing all the gears and not changing the synchros. If it's already apart the extra little money may be worth the time to pull it all apart in the future. To do not buy anything other than OEM tensioner.
Thats what I thought but a few people told me they didn't change the slides so I wanted to make sure. And ok good thing I got as much oem stuff for the timing chain stuff as I could. But what about that lower chain guide you had on your k20, Where did you get that from and you recommend it?
Does the dots/ arrows on the cam gears need to line up with the arrows on the cam caps?
No the chain
What timing chain kit did you use?
Shop in the description. Just let them know what your motor setup is. Made sure I had all the correct pieces.
You staying OEM on this stuff? Lots of press about other tensioners.
Yeah you can go ahead and run non OEM stuff you want.... Bye bye K-series lol..... Honda invented the motor I'm sure they have more knowledge on it than 3rd party suppliers lol
DC502civic629 www.superstreetonline.com/how-to/engine/htup-1005-honda-k-series-tensioner/
Evans Tuning made great video about K engines. Bottom line is, if you have stock cams then OEM tensioner is the best. If you change cams to more aggressive then even aftermarket tensioners will fail. Matter of weeks maybe months if you are gentle :) tune everything but stay away from aftermarket cams otherwise reliability is going down big time.
What about the cam locks in the back of cam shaft does it have to be align?
No focus on the front
@@DC502civic629 ok set timing but when i put the crank pulley on the marks doesnt line
@@ambushk2030 then you either don't have the crank pulley on right or the chain isn't lined up correctly at the top..... Lastly you need to remove both guides to line it up
@@DC502civic629 marks on chain were lined up. Guides were removed. Its about a tooth off on the crank pulley mark. I read its not biggy but i really want everything dead on.
@@ambushk2030 well if the marks are lined up then it's correct. If the guides are off then it shouldn't be an issue getting the chain where you need it to be. Lastly if you start the car and it's 1 tooth off you will get a timing check engine light. So if you start it and it's correct there will be no timing check engine light.
Audio so low
Yeah poor guy cameras lol