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  • @jamesdavies686
    @jamesdavies686 Před 3 lety +166

    I realize it's only been a little over a year, but you should do this same video again as a revisit with some same and some new brands. Since bait and switch happens so often in the parts world, would be interesting to see if the cheap stuff still holds up today.

  • @hoggif
    @hoggif Před 3 lety +15

    Banggood yellow tub melts at (or below) 100C. I melted it and poured in syringes. Quite cheap and seems to work well. You get quite a few syringes out of a tub of that!

  • @trevorwhite9138
    @trevorwhite9138 Před 4 lety +47

    Thanks, this was a really useful video. Having all the links really helped me find the best product and the easiest for me to order.

  • @ericeschborn1315
    @ericeschborn1315 Před 2 lety +1

    thanks for sharing! As a hobbyist who only really has warmed my tip to soldering, it's refreshing to have such insightful videos

  • @fishyrider3528
    @fishyrider3528 Před 4 lety +9

    Point to point old radio oxidized joints. Need the test. Great job. Good to have you back. Hello from Romania.

  • @rangwankasantikul9223
    @rangwankasantikul9223 Před 4 lety +39

    I guess it might be a great idea to rerun the tests on a non-plated copper boards. That's a better way to test the flux's ability to deal with oxides.

  • @electronicsoverhaul
    @electronicsoverhaul Před 4 lety +7

    Chip Quik SMD291 is great for soldering on ICs. It has a low viscosity, a greasy consistency. SMD4300TF10 is good for whatever else. Amtech does leave a sticky residue I don't like. When you heat the flux, it’s very transparent making it easy to see what you're doing. These are good for phones and small SMD work. I think rosin-based flux is fine for just about everything but can be harder to see for the small stuff with it's yellow coloring or becoming browner with heat. Rosin doesn't evaporate and smoke as quickly as Amtech. You can heat rosin to 500C, and it won't evaporate. It can turn darker as it heats up with use as you slide the solder iron around it more. Use what you like for whatever applications.

  • @585585MC
    @585585MC Před rokem +1

    for me this is a wonderful channel. great tests, great video quality, great audio, great voice and speaking ability.

  • @MikeyMack303
    @MikeyMack303 Před 11 měsíci +1

    In my experience, over many years, the amber flux paste is a great go to for best performance, no matter what label. Thank you for sharing that with us.

  • @Galactus314
    @Galactus314 Před 2 lety +4

    These fluxes were all tested on surface mount components, using PCBs with no vias. When heated, they all turn to liquid, and near by vias could drain it away. The liquid fluxes you can clearly see evaporating along the right edge at 6:20 and 6:50 respectively. They seems to have very limited uses. As someone else commented, I'm curious how the SRA No Clean Tacky Flux could handle those condtions. Also, I do a fair amount of through-hole soldering, and literally all of these fluxes are simply too thin for that. So I'm seeing a good case for another video. Boards with vias, the SRA flux, and something for the THT crowd (zinc chloride, as well as non-ZCl). Thanks!

  • @TheGuitologist
    @TheGuitologist Před 4 lety +51

    Excellent comparison. Very helpful.

  • @larsgregersen
    @larsgregersen Před 4 lety +3

    Thank you for this demonstration. Especially for showing the effect (or lack thereof) of not using flux at all!

    • @sdgelectronics
      @sdgelectronics  Před 4 lety

      SOIC is about the limit for using no flux, but I have a video coming shortly for SMD IC soldering 👍

  • @What_I_Make
    @What_I_Make Před 4 lety +8

    Your analogy on the fluid is spot on. As a part of the soldering I carried out at work, we looked at this and using the microscope could see the heat from the soldering iron directly burning off or evaporating the adjacent flux. I do have a concern with the thin consistency. Originally and at home, I use a thick paste and found, and in both cases, they last a very long time. With the thinner paste, it is tough to administer by hand, and because the density is lower gets used up very quickly. This may be my method, but there was a definite consumption at work between the two.

    • @KimoKimochii
      @KimoKimochii Před rokem

      by the flux lasting long does it become so thick it’s unusable? i find after a few minutes the flux gets so dried and thick on the board i need it clean it off and reapply

  • @Shay_Nichol
    @Shay_Nichol Před 2 lety

    Since watching this video when it was released I've been using CIF at work and it's helped a lot! thank you!

  • @habtamusium8646
    @habtamusium8646 Před rokem

    it was my gap to identify the flux and know how to apply them for my new business plan , now i begin my 1st step . many thanks ! lovely work .

  • @deangreenhough1178
    @deangreenhough1178 Před 2 lety

    Absolutely superb analysis. Many thanks for the work and effort that went into this video. Off to buy the CIF flux as recommended. Many thanks Steve

  • @GeekDetour
    @GeekDetour Před 3 lety +6

    Excellent video! I am new to SMD soldering... so, I got a couple of soldering paste and flux - but they didn't perform as nicely as the best ones you've shown, BY FAR! I thought it was just my inexperience, my lack of technique, but your video showed quite some difference between them, I am purchasing the ones you recommended and then I can be sure what is my fault :) Thanks!

  • @ocobotec
    @ocobotec Před 3 lety

    Excellent video, I had been watching videos of solder paste all afternoon and this one is really worth watching.

  • @ristomatti
    @ristomatti Před 4 lety +40

    I'm just starting with SMD soldering (or planning to do so for long) and this was extremely useful information. The brand/price overlays over the different options and again on the results was brilliant. So easy to compare. Talking pace and speech clarity also spot on. Great work, thank you!
    Two things I would have liked to hear (or missed): 1) what type of solder was used, 2) is the shelf life of the flux jars longer than on the ones that come in a tube? With the little time I have, it might be weeks or a month between I solder anything requiring flux. It's quite frustrating as the manufacturers state the shelf life to be only months. I've seen tips of reactivating old flux with IPA (maybe it was also on your channel?) but I've yet to try it.

    • @paulgrodkowski3412
      @paulgrodkowski3412 Před rokem

      Yes, Italian's are goog engieers!

    • @ristomatti
      @ristomatti Před rokem +2

      How is this related to my comment 3 years back? My questions are still valid btw. I've yet to have
      the time (or need) to get into SMD. 😬

    • @paulgrodkowski3412
      @paulgrodkowski3412 Před rokem

      @@ristomatti My apologies.

  • @AmeyJadiye
    @AmeyJadiye Před rokem

    Thanks for such a nice demo, it's quite useful even after two years to understand the in-out of the usability of flux. I have tried a few cheap fluxes with bad results. for me, the liquid one turned out to be the best one. thanks again for your guidance. I was also expecting this to be tried on raw copper endpoints to see the effectiveness.

  • @anastasiosbetzelos4954

    Just wanted to say thank you for the very useful info and for your time spent on this video!! Subscribed to the channel in a nutshell after checking your other videos as well!!

  • @danfreeman8225
    @danfreeman8225 Před 3 lety +1

    Outstanding vid! Great layout, info and timing. Also excellent layout of links! I might suggest a couple things that might help. It could be handy to know the details of the solder you used and the temp (if you had a way to measure) and having video times next to the list in the description. Thanks so much, it really helped!

  • @Zellonous
    @Zellonous Před 2 měsíci +1

    the great thing about tubs is being able to dip wires into them for wire tinning, etc.

  • @els1f
    @els1f Před 4 lety +6

    Man, your channel is incredible! So much great info 👍

    • @imqqmi
      @imqqmi Před 2 lety

      Agreed, it's a goldmine of info!

  • @marcotestarmata
    @marcotestarmata Před 4 lety +27

    IMHO the genuine Amtech really shine when used with an hot air gun. It really make the difference, it stays there active for a long time but you really need good ventilation or a real fume extractor, it is very smoky. The fake Amtech's residue are much harder to remove and they spread wider on the board. It is cheap but i won't buy it again.
    For general soldering i like to use the liquid TOPNIK RF800 in a squeeze bottle with a fine gauge needle. I work mostly with beefy through hole components. RF800's residue are really easy to remove with IPA and the flux works very well and it is not very smoky. Liquid flux are good just with a soldering iron. With hot air you need a gel flux, and the Amtech is the the best flux i've ever used. Just my two cents.

    • @sdgelectronics
      @sdgelectronics  Před 4 lety +14

      I'm going to do a test with hot air shortly - firstly with the PCB used in this video, but it sounds like it would be worth getting another test board with some large ICs and a ground plane on it. Thanks

    • @Slavolko
      @Slavolko Před 4 lety +3

      Louis Rossmann swears by genuine Amtech flux for all the work he does. In fact, he buys and re-sells them because he trusts them that much and wants others to be able to reliably source the genuine parts.

    • @pr0xZen
      @pr0xZen Před 4 lety +3

      @@Slavolko It's fair to promote it as it's genuinely great for its appropriate usecases. But its also really expensive, at least for those who do not generate any revenue on soldering work. And for many of those without a national/regional distributor, as international shipping and potential import taxes can make the total price really brutal.
      I need to point out that the sentiment pushed by Louis about the _process of buying_ Amtech flux is a horrible ordeal involving faxing orders etc, is either false or long outdated. You can just order it online from Amtechdirect.com . They're one of the few official distributors for Iventec (Amtech is a product lineup, Iventec is the company), and as such they keep shipment-ready stock of pretty much the whole Amtech lineup. So if you need _anything else_ from the Amtech lineup, these guys are great to have around, as you don't need to worry about getting fake products.
      That said - unless you want 10cc quanitites, or large tubs, buying no clean 559V2 tacky flux from Rossmanngroup is not a bad idea at all if the shipping etc works for you. Because the 30cc units Rossmann Group sell, are $16. From Amtechdirect they're $27.

    • @MPETE1976
      @MPETE1976 Před 3 lety

      Good to see RF800 being recommended as I have a 100ml and 2x50ml bottles + some other stuff coming my way from Poland this week.

    • @MPETE1976
      @MPETE1976 Před 3 lety

      @@pr0xZen $34.99

  • @OriginalMergatroid
    @OriginalMergatroid Před 2 lety +5

    Excellent video.
    I have been using MG Chemicals flux pen that is a liquid flux. This is the stuff Nintendo recommended to us about two decades ago. I never did like it much and it was constantly bridging, especially on the last few pins. If course, those ships had over 100 pins so the gap between the pins was smaller. I just ordered some MG No Clean solder paste before coming across your video. I am happy it performed well in your tests.
    I would love to see some examples of how to resolder a BGA chip using this flux.

  • @joepangit6938
    @joepangit6938 Před 2 lety +4

    The yellow tub of Bangood flux is really nice, and can ship from USA. The only down side to it, is that a brand new one weighs 113 grams including the container. So it's maybe 100g, not the 150g they sell it as.

  • @cdyoutoob
    @cdyoutoob Před 3 lety +4

    Would be good to see this done after 12-18 month with a broader range of fluxes. Perhaps ask viewers to submit flux suggestions. And also to have a review panels of other engineers / friends score the solutions. Could show off the corrosion of the test boards done from a year before so we can access long term viability of solder.

  • @Nanospear
    @Nanospear Před rokem

    Excellent video, I enjoyed the demonstration with each product. Kudos!

  • @tonybell1597
    @tonybell1597 Před 4 lety +4

    Excellent work, thanks, its always been the source of dilemma: "Which flux is best", heard across You Tube repair channels, so this is some really excellent advice, many thanks....

    • @sdgelectronics
      @sdgelectronics  Před 4 lety +3

      My testing is probably in no way authoritative, but hopefully it gives some reference for anyone unsure. Thanks

    • @johnyang799
      @johnyang799 Před 4 lety +1

      @@sdgelectronics Can we get a test of how fast does the flux get boiled off?

    • @sdgelectronics
      @sdgelectronics  Před 4 lety +1

      @@johnyang799 yes, coming soon

  • @subukai
    @subukai Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the review. I ordered some of the Yellow Solder paste. It will probably take a couple weeks to get to me but the price was right.

  • @helenh9563
    @helenh9563 Před 2 lety +1

    Love this video, thanks so much! I do would like more emphasis on environmental impact of the different fluxes.

  • @ivanr5315
    @ivanr5315 Před 7 měsíci

    Although an old video, it is really useful. I used to use the amtech fake flux for years and recently tried the CIF. The CIF leaves a sticky residue that in my opinion needs to be cleaned. Fortunately it is easy to clean.

  • @Hackvlog
    @Hackvlog Před 4 lety +2

    I used to use some other liquid flux, but can't remember which brand it was. It had same properties as the ones you tested: More flux was needed for larger IC's. It either boiled away or spread so much, there wasn't enough flux around the last pins. Practice will make it better, but main cause is the properties of the flux.
    In my opinion liquid flux is very easy and quick to apply.
    I'll add TK83 to my shopping list, thanks to your video! Well done with the comparison!

    • @sdgelectronics
      @sdgelectronics  Před 4 lety +1

      I think the liquid fluxes just aren't as suited to this particular style of soldering. It would be great for BGA style work as the liquid is drawn into gaps easily. It also cleaned off very easily. Thanks

  • @fahedkhan3008
    @fahedkhan3008 Před 2 lety +1

    You are a very good analyst. Very good video. Hats off.

  • @jamesdavies686
    @jamesdavies686 Před 3 lety +2

    Watching this again it's interesting how the solder climbs the component leg on some but not other fluxes, even if the flux did well with no bridges.

  • @TheMechatronicEngineer
    @TheMechatronicEngineer Před 3 lety +30

    One of the best flux comparison I've ever seen! What do you use to clean the flux residue?

  • @jerryrojas5216
    @jerryrojas5216 Před 2 lety

    This was a great & well done video! Thank you for the great reviews & results breakdown

  • @WACkZerden
    @WACkZerden Před 10 měsíci

    very informative and satisfying to watch. thank you for doing this.

  • @Sherifone78
    @Sherifone78 Před 4 lety

    One of best videos ever, best explanation. Thanks, subscribed

  • @TechnologyHive
    @TechnologyHive Před měsícem

    Very nice comparison! Thanks for sharing!

  • @dvmavgoor
    @dvmavgoor Před 4 lety +12

    Zinc chloride containing fluxes (such as the weller one) are not suitable for electronic components soldering, they are mostly for plumbing since ZnCl2 is pretty corosive and has to be removed after soldering. Moreover, ZnCl2 is extremely dangerous for a human: it's a skin irritant and its fumes cause lungs diseases.

    • @sdgelectronics
      @sdgelectronics  Před 4 lety +1

      Interesting, I hadn't noticed the composition but it was picked out alongside the other flux pastes from an electronics supplier.

  • @tristankordek
    @tristankordek Před 4 lety +5

    There was a problem when soldering with TK83 because the maximum application temperature is 280 degrees Celsius
    I suspect that you overheated it and began to boil, after adding another portion of flux, it just cooled down and soldering went fantastic again.
    Because I am Polish and TK83 and LP-1 are Polish fluxes, I know a bit more about them, if I remember correctly, we used the AG-5 flux for soldering at higher temperatures (up to 400).
    We have used them for many years and in general AG TermoPasty products are very popular in our country (they are cheap but very good).
    By the way, the Polish word "Topnik" means Flux from the Polish word Topić - melt.
    I forgot to write, people start reading the manuals, there is all the information about the products you want to use.
    Thank you for this movie is very cool.

    • @BahtiyarAliALHAS
      @BahtiyarAliALHAS Před 3 lety

      Hi; what do you know about rf800. I couldn't find the application temperature about it ?

  • @gervaisdube1843
    @gervaisdube1843 Před 3 lety

    Very helpfull for a beginner like me and a nice demo of soldering technique for those components. Thanks!

  • @fraserhardmetal7143
    @fraserhardmetal7143 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Very expensive for what you get - just make your own - you can buy a kilo of rosin for less than one of these fluxes.
    Mix rosin ( flakes preferably ) with vaseline ( anything from 1:0.5 - 1:2 ) or however runny you want to make it. Don't forget it is the rosin that does the job here, despite what other proprietary ingredients are in the commercial stuff.
    Put in a glass jar , mix, and heat gently in the oven until the vaseline and rosin separate - remove from heat , remix and heat again. Remove from heat and allow to cool.
    When cooled enough to still be liquid, the mixture can be drawn into syringes - at this point you can add some 99% isopropyl alcohol to the mix ( 1 - 2% ) to aid fluidity, but really it is up to personal preference - experiment with the recipe, it's not set in stone, the more rosin that's in it the better.
    The acid in the rosin should be enough for regular soldering - badly oxidised components would probably require something more acidic - try adding some citric or malic acid - it's up to you.
    Remember to vent fumes - at least you know what's in your homebrew flux - goodness knows what's in the Chinese knock- off stuff.

    • @rogierius
      @rogierius Před 2 měsíci

      I like this! Thank you.

  • @CarlosMartinez-px9xo
    @CarlosMartinez-px9xo Před 11 měsíci

    Hi, awesome video! I'm from Latin America and I've seen many weird fluxes. Some can ruin a board, like when liquid amber flux dripped on a hard drive and dissolved the copper. Sadly, I didn't see it for a month or two, so it was too late.
    I suggest trying a good board and switching pads between isolated and connected ones. This can act as a heatsink, change the performance, and show more differences between the fluxes.

  • @jiribekr
    @jiribekr Před rokem

    Many thanks for the extensive test! Bought 10pcs of fake Amtech NC-223-ASM based on Your test, and regret nothing. Much better than liquid fluxes and rosin I used before.

  • @Royal_LXIX
    @Royal_LXIX Před 4 měsíci

    Nice! Thanks for the video, been looking for a breakdown of the different fluxes. That third paste was real bad haha, looked like it bridged the last like 4 pins as well

  • @rhalfik
    @rhalfik Před 17 dny

    I use topnik mostly because it's a local brand, but I can tell that gel works better than liquids. They have their use for sure, but they're displaced too quickly with heat. Gel is more persistent. It's also easy to wash away and I don't get the problem with lumps, although I find a small brush useful as with any flux.

  • @BaronVonBeef
    @BaronVonBeef Před 3 lety +1

    Just ordered some of the banggood yellow flux paste because of this video

  • @wartlme
    @wartlme Před 3 lety +1

    Glad I found the video. This reminds me of "Project Farm" but for electronics. Just an honest review of products.

  • @sammccormick1
    @sammccormick1 Před rokem

    I got some of the Chinese flux, which is very sticky and seems to be based on a type of paraffin wax. I mixed it with some (15% ish) mineral oil (corn oil in my case) and achieved a soft butter-like consistency that allows it to be loaded into a syringe, It performed the same as in the video however it was much easier to handle coming from a syringe. I used a 1mm metal tip on the syringe. Cost for 10 cc was approx $0.85 (115cc of flux cost $11 inc delivery). I am sure other types of mineral oil will produce similar results.

  • @jamescole3152
    @jamescole3152 Před rokem

    What a great video. I would have never guessed that is how it is done.

  • @timbiddulph
    @timbiddulph Před měsícem

    Genuinely useful video, thanks!

  • @fibranijevidra
    @fibranijevidra Před 4 lety +1

    Nice comparison. It would be great if you could make v2 with other comparisons mentioned in the comments. You already have all those fluxes, so it would not take much effort.

  • @frankpitochelli6786
    @frankpitochelli6786 Před 2 lety

    I often use a flux pen, it looks like a felt tip.... you push down on the tip and it soaks the tip....then it's applied to the joint to be soldered, however, for me it doesn't seem to work as well as the paste type fluxes, but it does the job....the syringe type fluxes can be tricky since they tend to glob it out per sae.
    But, IMO....most fluxes work just as well as the next, alot has to do with soldering techniques as well.
    Thank you for all the technical video's that you put together, they are alot of work for you tubers...but are very informative.!

  • @Limeayy
    @Limeayy Před 4 lety +6

    OMFG, i'm in love with your channel already. I was thinking about using Amtech NC-559 as well, great you have a comparison.
    I'm a new subscriber. Thanks and keep up the great work!

  • @tomvleeuwen
    @tomvleeuwen Před 4 lety +31

    I would be interested in how good these fluxes perform when using hot air soldering.

    • @Kholaslittlespot1
      @Kholaslittlespot1 Před rokem

      Yeah, this is when the liquid fluxes should come into their own

  • @djalienprime
    @djalienprime Před 4 lety +8

    Now perform the SIR test for all the fluxes from this video. I'm (almost) sure you'll be (unplesantly) surprised. The quality of solder joints is not the only important thing you should worry about: some fluxes remaining conductive or (even worse) creating a capacitance between the leads if not cleaned off. So you will have a bad time debugging your assembled device (especially on high-frequency parts: MCUs and quartz resonators).

    • @onetech1627
      @onetech1627 Před 3 lety

      TRUE. I'm agreed with you.

    • @user-zc8sd8jx8s
      @user-zc8sd8jx8s Před 5 měsíci

      yeah that's totally right. every flux comparison, unless you're using them to solder power wires or low-impedance low-frequency circuits, has to include a conductivity test.

  • @ZoruaZorroark
    @ZoruaZorroark Před 3 lety +5

    even though its been 26 years since my dad did soldering, i can still smell the flux

  • @pentachronic
    @pentachronic Před 4 lety +2

    Very useful video. I've been using a liquid MG rosin flux for the last 5+ years and It's worked well but leaves a horrible residue which I have to laboriously clean with alcohol. Was looking for a newer style flux and your review has been very helpful. Just ordered through one of your links. Thanks.

    • @allanknox8216
      @allanknox8216 Před 2 lety

      CHANGE TO OA FLUX! You'll never look back.

    • @nerijusk9598
      @nerijusk9598 Před 2 lety

      @@allanknox8216 what is OA flux?

    • @allanknox8216
      @allanknox8216 Před 2 lety

      @@nerijusk9598 OA flux stands for "Organic acid" it has stuff like citric and phosphoric acids - all water soluble. It's pretty aggressive and completely cleaned with warm water - no solvents. I only switched because every CM I worked with was already using it. Rosin flux has been out of favor for a long time. Chine uses no-clean to save money.

  • @hxhdfjifzirstc894
    @hxhdfjifzirstc894 Před 4 lety +120

    I'm guessing people recommend Amtech flux because Louis uses it.

    • @docferringer
      @docferringer Před 4 lety +6

      Yeah, though Louis says Amtech doesn't sell in on Amazon, so the stuff on eBay and Amazon is fake chinese stuff. YMMV

    • @technicalgujarati8251
      @technicalgujarati8251 Před 4 lety +5

      He is God of macbook

    • @jamesmurphy449
      @jamesmurphy449 Před 3 lety +4

      @@docferringer Everything electronic on Amazon is fake.

    • @Aethelbeorn
      @Aethelbeorn Před 3 lety

      @@jamesmurphy449 Just bought a Rigol 1257Z. It's real.

    • @optimizelogicrepair2784
      @optimizelogicrepair2784 Před 3 lety

      @@Aethelbeorn same, I bought my Rigol DP832 from Amazon. Granted the seller was TEquipment, but I digress.

  • @DoctoreDoom
    @DoctoreDoom Před 3 lety

    Thank you for making this video, you have a great channel!

  • @hifiguy77
    @hifiguy77 Před 3 měsíci

    Excellent presentation form and content! Thank you!

  • @rickshabin
    @rickshabin Před 3 lety

    Informative. Professionally made.Good.

  • @robertcalkjr.8325
    @robertcalkjr.8325 Před 4 lety +2

    Thanks Steve! Here lately I have been using Chip Quik SMD291 No Clean Tack Flux for SMD work. It seems to work great.

    • @pa4tim
      @pa4tim Před 4 lety +2

      I used that too, I loved it but Farnell took it out of their assortment. Now I use the Topnik TK83 (after trying several others). It is not as good as the Chip Quik but good enough. I liked the tacky stuff because it holds the component on its place (i use it professional for repair work)

    • @sdgelectronics
      @sdgelectronics  Před 4 lety +1

      I used to use several different Chip Quik fluxes, but I noticed Farnell have dropped many of their lines, so it's not as easily available.

    • @pa4tim
      @pa4tim Před 4 lety

      @@sdgelectronics OK, you are right, it does not make sense to test it, if it is hard to get. I hated that I needed to find a replacement because the stuff is not cheap and I did not like the most I tested. The same goes for solder.
      Thanks, this was very interesting video.

    • @robertcalkjr.8325
      @robertcalkjr.8325 Před 4 lety

      pa4tim I am just a hobbyist but I am starting to get pretty good at microsoldering and using my rework station. I also try to always use my board preheater. The preheater makes rework easier for me.

    • @robertcalkjr.8325
      @robertcalkjr.8325 Před 4 lety

      SDG Electronics Hmm, sounds like Chip Quik needs to get on the ball! They are losing money!

  • @RainBitcoins
    @RainBitcoins Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you for this video, it was of great help.

  • @Josh.Davidson
    @Josh.Davidson Před 2 lety +1

    Very good video. My (genuine) Amtech NC-559-V2-TF comes out a little more tacky then the one in the video though, which I found interesting.

  • @decem_unosquattro9538
    @decem_unosquattro9538 Před 11 měsíci

    I started using Amtec - 559 -ASM - TF Expiry date June 8, 2023. I ordered it and it arrived 13 April 2023. I paid 79.91 AUD which to me was insane.
    Now its $198.12 which is really insane. 😂
    I might get the CIF next.
    Thanks for the review.

  • @DevilbyMoonlight
    @DevilbyMoonlight Před 3 lety +1

    I may be showing my age but I still prefer using solid pure rosin and dip the tip in that when needed, it is amber coloured and glasslike in appearance, if I need a liquid form I just crush a small piece and disolve it in alcohol - its worked well for me for over 30 years,

  • @MaqsoodAlamShafiq
    @MaqsoodAlamShafiq Před 2 lety

    Much needed comparison. Thanks you very much.

  • @artisrozentals5853
    @artisrozentals5853 Před 2 lety +7

    Weller flux made me hardly detectable short-circuits, when applied to IC's. It wasn't detectable with multimeter, but only with infrared camera, when after a while, near VCC and GND heat started to abnormally build up. So be careful with it.

    • @TonnyCassidy
      @TonnyCassidy Před rokem

      that weller flux reminds me of a blue tin solder grease made by stannol gmbh called lotfett, even comes with the same warning (contains zinc chloride) but the blue tin stuff have warning against using them for electronic or electrical soldering

    • @RFC-3514
      @RFC-3514 Před rokem

      I wonder if it's a Fluxite-type paste, with metal particles, meant to solder sheet metal and large power cables (not electronics components).

  • @joshm264
    @joshm264 Před 4 lety

    I'm really impressed by that big tub of banggood flux, might order some!

    • @Voidsworn
      @Voidsworn Před 3 lety

      I bought like 4 or 5 tubs. I am not sure what is in it but it seems to me to be nothing more than some kind of wax? It doesn't smell bad, smells mildly like candle wax and leaves an oily coating. I wonder if it mostly just a heat transfer medium, not really am oxide remover.

  • @bobtronic73
    @bobtronic73 Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for doing this comparison.

  • @linkavichtruousky1
    @linkavichtruousky1 Před 4 lety +3

    I have previously bought inexpensive Chinese flux and after using it even in a well ventilated area would feel a bit sick sort of like flu symptoms. After switching to a name product i dont get this anymore so be careful as i have no idea whats in the cheap stuff and I’m sure there is not much quality control happening. The cheap flux cost me $1 AU compared to $15 AU for a rosin flux that i use now.

  • @amirhossein6372
    @amirhossein6372 Před 6 měsíci

    That was so informative. You should do the same comparison with solder pastes!

  • @meenroy
    @meenroy Před 4 lety +1

    thANKS, i was looking for this video.

  • @HunTomiBp
    @HunTomiBp Před 2 lety

    I think this is the best I have ever met.
    ENGINEER ZC-70 Flux For Soldering 50ml - Japan

  • @matthewnicholas7118
    @matthewnicholas7118 Před rokem

    That was an excellent and really useful video. Thank you.

  • @tookitogo
    @tookitogo Před 4 lety +41

    Ummm... the Weller flux says right on the tub that it contains zinc chloride, meaning it’s an acid based plumbing flux.

  • @johnnelson8714
    @johnnelson8714 Před 3 měsíci

    Something I learned from the school of hard knocks was to use the pitch from a pine, fur, etc. tree. It's also called resin. And it's free.
    Also to anyone using an acid resin on electronics DON'T! It'll eat the copper wire and the PCB board. (Friend did a repair on a board in his stereo wire acid core solder and it worked for awhile but eventually ate the board to the point he had to replace the board.)

  • @mietek7068
    @mietek7068 Před rokem +1

    Topnik is not a brand. It’s flux in Polish. But it’s nice to see them here. We have also quite good solder - the brand is Cynel (Yes, Cyna=Solder).

  • @HappyHands.
    @HappyHands. Před rokem

    Thank You for doing this comparison

  • @hadiffnazhan862
    @hadiffnazhan862 Před 3 lety

    that cheap "NT" branded soldering paste was surprisingly good, around 2 dollars for 50g here in malaysia

  • @allthegearnoidea6752
    @allthegearnoidea6752 Před 2 lety

    I’m thinking of learning about SMD and have bought some equipment. It was nice to get your recommendations thanks

    • @sdgelectronics
      @sdgelectronics  Před 2 lety

      Have fun! I think there are some newer fluxes since I did this video but I don't think much can have changed.

  • @javierpallalorden
    @javierpallalorden Před 4 lety +33

    Thank you for the very comprehensive test, good to know that the fake Amtech is usable.

    • @Boz1211111
      @Boz1211111 Před 4 lety

      Though one of two or three worst fluxes here so no point in using imo. proskit and mechanic far better and still cheaper and are from china same as fake amtech

    • @Blackwhite-oe7zg
      @Blackwhite-oe7zg Před 3 lety

      Relife 422 im halogen free is good flux. You know that?

  • @user-vz4bo1en8x
    @user-vz4bo1en8x Před 3 lety +2

    Mechanic is actually one of the best cheapo brands to work with, both solder wire, paste and flux works really nice.

    • @MPETE1976
      @MPETE1976 Před 3 lety

      Agree. I like that it is available in a wide variety of diameters and spool sizes for the wire. Paste in 6-7 or so tub sizes + syringes. Have yet to try the flux though.

  • @dimbulb330
    @dimbulb330 Před 4 lety +12

    Very good presentation. Making the video two minutes longer you could have just mentioned the basic classification of r, rma, ra for each one as you went along, the same with the solder video. Again, well done.

    • @sdgelectronics
      @sdgelectronics  Před 4 lety +9

      I have a couple of follow-up videos, so I'll be sure to include this info - thanks for the suggestion.

  • @elmariachi5133
    @elmariachi5133 Před 3 lety

    Very great review and explanation!

  • @PapaGleb
    @PapaGleb Před 3 lety

    Great video. Quick question, is there a way to turn a paste flux softer to put it in a tube/syringe? I just started to with electronics repair and purchased basic tools which got to me this flux as it was the cheapest but its so hard to apply.

  • @WallStreet749
    @WallStreet749 Před 2 lety +1

    Love this video thanks for making it.

  • @utsavsharan7929
    @utsavsharan7929 Před 4 lety +1

    Best demonstration ever seen!😘😘😎😎😍😘

  • @jw200
    @jw200 Před 4 lety

    Thanks, very useful.
    I would like to see same about solder paste for SMD. (the grey one).
    Which one is good?
    I have one from Aliexpress but its drying out and its unusable.

  • @anthonyperaro9336
    @anthonyperaro9336 Před 3 lety

    great information and many products displayed

  • @almosawi32
    @almosawi32 Před 4 lety

    Yes, it is very useful, thanks for this tutorial

  • @rich1051414
    @rich1051414 Před 4 lety +2

    I use SRA Rosin Paste Flux #135. Kind of thick for SMD, but it's really tacky which I like.

  • @naderhumood1199
    @naderhumood1199 Před 3 lety

    Great vedio., I'm using weller.its great Flux ....thanks very much.

  • @pibbles-a-plenty1105
    @pibbles-a-plenty1105 Před 4 měsíci

    This method require a "spoon" soldering tip. An ordinary chisel tip won't to the job.
    Yes, go down the row of pins quickly. Don't apply so much flux, it takes a lot less to do the job properly (you need practice). Also, don't apply paste flux with a tooth pick. Trim the bristles on a small acid brush (or artist's brush with stiff bristles) and "paint" the flux on. With liquid flux use a slightly softer artist's brush. Clean your brushes with isopropyl alcohol (acetone works faster) and dry quickly with a cotton cloth or paper towel. You will waste a lot less flux and you won't run out of your party picks. 🙂

  • @The.Doctor.Venkman
    @The.Doctor.Venkman Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks, Steve.

  • @abeleski
    @abeleski Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you. Very interesting video. I would like you to expand your video to test a couple of other characteristics. Effectiveness on oxidised components and also even more important for me how fast the flux burns off. Especially important for hot air when a lot of times we have the heat on for a while. I believe the genuine amtech is what is supposed to set it apart from the others in this regard as it stays aroind for longer. Would be great to see some sort of a test for it. Thanks again.

    • @sdgelectronics
      @sdgelectronics  Před 4 lety +3

      I'll work out a video with the same PCB, maybe removing and re-applying the IC with hot air. Thanks :)

    • @abeleski
      @abeleski Před 4 lety +1

      @@sdgelectronics your current pcb is probably not a good example. You need those quad pack chips that have a big ground plane on bottom. Your current chip and pcb would be easy to remove with hot air. You need to simulate a large ground plane fighting off yoir heat gun if i am making sense

    • @dankan4459
      @dankan4459 Před 3 lety

      @@sdgelectronics did you ever make the hot air station video? Great vids btw