As a town hall 13 i agree watching tournaments its based on speed not strategy especially with dragon buff its literally just drag blimp th and get a fast attack i miss watching good interesting strategy's
The game is not made for the pros. You cannot model a game for the top 1% of players, that would just be ridiculous. The game needs to be taking into account all players of the game
@@mattlloyd-davies9993 tho one of the way they make money is by ppl having interest in the game(tournament is one of the good way) . They might nerf things if even the spenders starts to decline
@@mattlloyd-davies9993 so the final level should be easier than the lower level? In any games the final level is much harder than the early level. Every game of supercell follows these rule except clash of clans. But it seems to me that clash royale is more challenging than clash of clans. Even though of the pay to win. Winning in clash is too f ing easy spam root riders or any dragon no braincell required. And why did they nerf all the defense when the offensive side got more buff? Idk? I play clash of clans because of the challenge now a days even if you are in a coma you can 3 star.
I think "ruined" is a huge exaggeration. As for game balance, I'd say that just buffing some defenses (perhaps by implementing another merged defense like mortars or wizard towers), and slightly nerfing the root riders a tiny bit more would make for pretty great balance. Even with things as they are, many top pro players in tournaments still miss some attacks, so just some balancing could do
Yeah I was about to say. Maybe break clash of clans, but definitely didn’t ruin the game. When I see ruin, I assume break to the point where the game is unplayable and beyond repair.
@@TheUltimateFahdI don’t disagree with this, personally I don’t think th 16 is perfect but it might as well be, I think I would prefer if they would just buff electro titan, make it 40 housing space and give it the stats a tank troop at th 14 let alone 15 and 16, needs, root rider feels like I got cheated out of a electro titan buff
@@Azceus522 the end of literally any game is SUPPOSED to be hard so that its a challenge to get to the finish. If its stupid easy then why is it special that you got to the end?
@@Snek5981 for me personally I just enjoy the base building part of the game so I don't really mind too much about offense balance. Th15 in the past I guess that would b the ideal difficulty for some players, but ppl like myself who want to be good in attack but just have absolutely no time to practice I'd say it's pretty close to a nightmare, sure we can spend money to buy time aka max everything but can't buy experience, or is it like the players who are busy irl bit still like and want to perform good in the game don't even deserve to get a 3 stars? I'm interested in the opinion about it
It's still dumb how root riders get a nerf but dragons got buffs. We've all long accepted the fact walls are merely decorations since seige machines were added, and root riders being able to just walk through walls is fine. But also it's boring how much dragons get forced into meta every time a new TH gets added. By the way, overgrowth may seem OP; but it's also easy to screw yourself up by putting it down at the wrong time or spot. So far ive rarely seen it used in general, even during this CWL. I've gotten it down by using a certain strat for it but my clan mates haven't picked up on it yet. Plus it seems pointless to use on any TH below 14 or 15.
I just hope Coc experiments more. We dont need another troop which destroys walls. Why dont they do something weird? Hero equipment is a step in the right direction... but imo, most of them are just like spells, e.g. frost arrow is like freeze spell. The two which are really unique are giant gauntlet and the giant arrow. The new spell also feels like a retextured freeze/invis spell
The nerf to Defensive Heroes was too much, along with the defenses nerfs. Root Riders were released broken and are still very strong. Overgrowth is still being tested but it might be the strongest Spell in the game just for funneling purpouses alone along with shutting down Eagle Artillery easily
@@divyanshuthakur3011 The Spell tower nerfs were Justified. Poison is super annoying and had no counter, while Rage was insanely strong and can easily shut down an attack.
People really complained because TH15 was “too hard”, so they made the game easy and now people still complain. Even though the game is “easy” rn, I avoid using root rider. I’m fr trynna get good at QC Lalo, I never learned it and it’s been the only attack I’ve been using since TH16 dropped. The game is what you make it though, if you want an easy time, use meta troops. If you want to have a challenge, make your own attack strategy or use a higher skill base attack strat.
you forget, that people attack you. It could frustrate some players getting 100% over and over, while spending much money. I personally stopped playing the game.
@@JonSnow-nv1em i personally don’t mind if my base gets 3starred, cause the only times that it does, is by people who abuse root riders. They make walls look like tooth picks, but like I said, that’s the meta rn. I can’t be mad or get frustrated when people are simply using the meta. It’s part of the game. If they ever get patched to the point where they fall out of meta, then those same people are going to struggle finding an easy attack strat. It’s just how the game works, nothing will ever be 100% balanced.
@Moraldog QC Lalo and other variants are still top 3. Root riders comps take the 1 and 2 spot, but QC is still good. It seems harder now, but once you understand how to attack certain base layouts, it’s rinse and repeat tbh.
Since the overgrowth spell is so good I belive it should take 3 housing spaces. That would also be a good thing to diverse spells housing spaces, since the clone spell is currently the only one that costs 3 housing spaces
I had an interesting suggestion for changing RRs. That could be to give them a shared healthpool so they're less effective when spammed. This would make it more of a single threat so it couldn't be abused for free funneling unless you really wanted to face that downside. IDK how to balance the numbers but just think of it in concept. --- Incase you're wondering how it'd work from a deployment standpoint, you'd see the HP on the RR deploy bar and if it reaches 0, all root riders either die or have a system similar to super hog rider so new units deployed after the root dies can just be the riders. That suggestion is obviously a bit complicated but I could definitely see it working and not completely overshadowing other units as a result. It'd be creative and fun to play around if you desired. And if not, you still have Golems and SWBs. It could also work from a logic standpoint since all RRs could be using the same root. We don't know.
The thing is most players are casual player's so supercell has some spam troop to make them feel good not everyone is into planning before attack. Same thing is with the edragon
You should consider checking how annoying the deployment area is for higher town hall levels Because you can just cover the whole area and it leaves you with an annoyingly small space in the corner to place your troop They need to add a corner mechanic to punish these annoying strategy
“No No Skill Fun” Honestly I wonder if you should just be able to upgrade the basic cannons/archer towers to th16 level, with the merged defences staying the same
It's a lot easier than th15, but the game is about competing with other players. Unless you're near the top of the leaderboards, then I dont see how you can claim it to be easy
Anyone realize the defenses have been the same since th11? Why haven’t tbey added a 5th xbow yet, or a 4th inferno, or even a second tornado trap? They need more balance in the defense
The competitive community is so small compared to the large player base that keeps the game alive most players prefer the game to not take a bunch of time to master it’s a game people pull out a couple times a day to kill time they are catering to their player base which in my eyes is a good thing
Im glad the pros are speaking out. Th15 was hard, but the highest lvl should be hard. We track stats with a bot on discord and I had around a 30% hit rate at 15, now at 16 im hovering around 90%. I didnt just become a pro overnight, the game just fell apart. Between new troop, spell, defense nerfs, and hero equipment, the game just got way way to easy.
the ores are completely counter intuitive right now, after players begged for some balance and change for heroes upgrades, they didn’t even touch them in the last updates. i was hoping that supercell wouldn’t be greedy like they did with royale, but it seems they’re taking the same steps slowly 😢
Watching this after your TH15 video is wild, total switchup. And a content creator for a game not understanding what the devs meant by their tweet is really concerning
I think the overgrowth spell is great as it is except for the bad balancing right now. With troops being so strong, even if you screw up your attack with the funnel and end up getting a bunch of defenses behind you and aren't properly taking care of them, you can make an easy recovery. You should be able to accidentally ruin your attack by flinging troops into a high damage situation. I think root riders would make way more sense if they have a hit point range from 4000 to 6000 the most. Since they can completely negate walls, they should only be a lighter tank. You want them tanking, but you also want to fight to keep them alive.
The problem for the pros is the tie breaker being time (since strategic attacks like queen walk takes time, compared to just spamming). My idea is for the tie breaker to be "lest army" where the person who used the least housing space wins. If that's the same, the tie breaker for that could be time.
In the recent match of NAVI vs Tribe gaming, navi in the first match lost 13-15 to tribe,but then in second match every body in navi used root rider spam and won 15-15(on time) . If this goes on , we might lose the crazy attacks of klaus and other creative players and everyone will just shift to root rider spam because otherwise they wont win
A game doesn't revolve around competitive players only...a major major chunk of players are causal players who just love to enjoy the game...so I am glad to use new stuffs in the game in my weekend after whole week duty
Also very frustrating in Clan Wars, I'm almost maxed TH 14 and top of my clan but in wars often face TH 15 or 16 as direct opponents. And the TH 14 defenses just do nothing really against the root riders, just spam them and they almost always three star me and in reverse because they have much stronger defenses I rarely get to three star them myself. The root riders and stronger defenses are just to OP if you are "just" a TH 14
E sports should introduce heroes ban or something. Like one team can't use BK or AQ or RC and other has different heroes but warden is excluded from ban list
Many top clan players have been complaining about how Overpowered rootriders are the first week it comes out but no content creators bothered to talk about it. Now Klaus started to voice it up suddenly everybody is talking about Rootriders.😂😂
In my opinion some of what you've said here is wrong, When I want to upgrade the hero equipment and I'm looking at my ores, I woke up with a bunch of them, maybe from wars but I suppose mostly from multiplayer since I play it the most. As for the root rider, it seems to be the same situation as the electro dragon was. I don't think you can get bored by mass spamming root riders as it seems to be satisfying, almost like the e drag spamming.
Instead of the max town hall being the easiest they should make like town hall 12 13 14 easier and then 15 and 16 harder for pro players but then again that's just me a non multi million player game developer
tbh i think that the overgrowth spell should just last as long as a freeze spell and revert the whole equipment thing to where you still have the equipment, but its only leveled every five hero levels, as well as removing the root rider just being able to destroy every wall by walking through it, thats the mountain golem's thing the changes are about as pointless as the builder base attack rework
@@TheHeadlesss 20+ seconds is a rediculous ammount. 10 would honestly be more manageable. freeze spells are only really an issue if theyre spammed, which i see a lot in clan wars im in
@@TheHeadlesss interesting, but i mainly say freeze spell since they do similarly to the overgrowth spell, make it unable to do anything for a set time. i personally just use invis, earthquake, and lightning for my attacks
@@Issengan i use 4 rages for my QC 2 freezes to reset infernos, 1 poison for CC or defending Queen, 1 growth spell because i guess abuse it while you can (im a th11 in legends league so i need the most power i can)
Clickbait nonsense. Our clan is in champs 1. The first 3 days of this season every war has been won with between 36-39 stars. That is not broken. The clan in first place is using dragons. The pros need a new system, where they play with nerfed offense &/or buffed defense. The way they have a different tee for pro golfers. But I guess that’s a less clickbait title…
For pro it's too easy to 3, so the result comes down to time which is even more annoying than before + not creating enough tension for audience. Thats prob the reason they r upset
"No just nerfing it wont fix it" It literally would, Reduce wall damage, Increase Population, Reduce Health. Anything and it would help tremendously. But "I like money" speaks louder.
TH16 has been the most fun since TH12. Ground attacks are finally much more viable and reliable thanks to root riders, it’s not just air attacks anymore but you can still use them if you want. I definitely don’t think root riders need another nerf, that’s not the solution. Instead, a buff to defenses would be the best move
Everything was fine at TH14. 3-starring wasn't impossible (like at TH15), but it was relatively rare. Pro matches had 12-14 star scores 90% of the time. At TH15, pro matches seemed to remain the same, but casual players found it extremely hard. Now, it is a piece of cake to 3 star. What the hell? Why did they nerf the Town Hall poison, X-Bows and Scattershots if they already nerfed the Rage Towers? I think Root Rider's housing space should go up to 30. Scattershots and X-Bows need their original stats back (when TH15 was maxed). Rage Tower can remain as it is.
top competitive players need to be able to set their own rule sets... Pro players will always break any patch in any game... We have had the same problem in Overwatch for years and I think it is time to give pro competition more tools to limit broken (for pro play) aspects of the game while still keeping the game as is for casual players...
I disagree I love that th 16 is easy I hated th 15 the pros don't matter they had an easy town hall made for them already its called town hall 15 they literally said town hall 15 was easy but for most people it was the opposite I was stuck in a 1or 2 star loop when ever I attacked before town hall 16 came out
i like how people say root riders are brainless and that they will stop playing game , when same damn thing happened in th12 with edragons .Yes it is boring for defender but it will pass just as th 12 and edrag spam passed since i can guarantee we will get some broken tank killing machine in th 17 just to counter root rider as we got s shooter in th13 just to counter e drag
TH15 is just as easy as TH16 now because of the equipment. If we didn't have the equipment, TH16 would be just as hard IMO. I don't think the answer is to keep nerfing troops. I think the equipment needs to be nerfed if anything.
What where they thinking nerfing the spell towers and other of tha major defense is a bad decisions and add the most broken troop and also buff the dragon. This is strategy game no more. Just spam all troops and equip your hero all of the most broken equipment and what the defense have? A new defense that sacrifice 8 defense just to get 4 new defense. Even a baby can 3 star this game
I get a lot of people are focus on the troops but it’s easy balance fix here and there. The real issue is these new equipment cost a lot of time and or/ or money to get these things max. For lower th levels they basically say your never going to max before going to next th. Encouraging people to rush. So many weak heroes and equipment around now. Will only get worse. Balance the rate at which we acquire ores. And I don’t think hp nerf is enough for root rider they knew when they made root riders smash attacks with healers would take over. They needed to add a new defense at th16 like another monolith and a spell tower. Sense they made room… rant over
I think it's maybe time to make some defenses deal more damage against root riders. Imagine Infernal towers dealing 25% more damage and... let's throw also the town hall weapon deal this bonus damage to root riders only
personal opinion, i hated town hall 15, been only playing for exactly 3 years as of last month. and let me say this as someone who doesn't have no skills in coc. the game was getting extremely boring because of how difficult it was to 3 star, i swear to god i think i only ever 3 stared like a dozen bases in my life time. now that town hall 16 came out and these new super op equipment are available, i've actually been enjoying this game. its made me enjoy the grind of coc again, yes ore is hard to obtain but thats the fun part about clash. also like why do i need to be a pro in order to enjoy a game, if pros want some sort of challenge then dont use them simple, use lalo or something else. where the game stands right now i think is perfect, i hope it doesn't ever go back to town hall 15 days 😅
I don’t see a problem with the RR I get as many defences against them as anything else… Don’t seem to be a problem I’m in titan 1 but usually in legend
I hate those heri equipment make this game more p2w than usual. They don't want to give new heroes but instead give player new way to spend money more.
The only thing I really want is make the purple ores easier to get. Why tf is it so needlessly difficult to get. In fact it would be better if we can convert extra loot into ores to make things easier
As a town hall 13 i agree watching tournaments its based on speed not strategy especially with dragon buff its literally just drag blimp th and get a fast attack i miss watching good interesting strategy's
The game is not made for the pros. You cannot model a game for the top 1% of players, that would just be ridiculous. The game needs to be taking into account all players of the game
@@mattlloyd-davies9993 tho one of the way they make money is by ppl having interest in the game(tournament is one of the good way) . They might nerf things if even the spenders starts to decline
@@mattlloyd-davies9993 still seems to easy it's a strategy game should still require strategy at end game 🤷🏾♂️
They should just revert all the defense nerf since new troop. hero equipment and the troop buffs just makes it so one sided
@@mattlloyd-davies9993 so the final level should be easier than the lower level? In any games the final level is much harder than the early level. Every game of supercell follows these rule except clash of clans. But it seems to me that clash royale is more challenging than clash of clans. Even though of the pay to win. Winning in clash is too f ing easy spam root riders or any dragon no braincell required. And why did they nerf all the defense when the offensive side got more buff? Idk? I play clash of clans because of the challenge now a days even if you are in a coma you can 3 star.
Coc players in 2023: “Th15 is too tough!”
Coc players in 2024 after th16: “Wtf is this game so easy? Root Rider go bsshhhhhhh!!!”
Clash of roots😂
@@CJD_Xlmao fr it's literally like saying electro dragon requires no skill 💀and when electro drag got a hp buff nobody seemed to care
I assure you any player from absent to casual hasn't made changes to their army
I have a th16 almost rush account but I didn't touch root riders just use in clan castle in other rush account like th 8 9 or something
@@CJD_Xif you go to my clan no one is active I'm using my 12 account but i have 30+ player but they just left the game after th16
Th15 was way too hard
Th16 was way too easy
Rn it's kinda harder after the update but still on the easier side
bring it back to th 14 according to old reviews th 14 was the best one as it was not hated at all
TH13 and 14 meta was perfect. We generally had 12-13 star wars, and a perfect war used to mean something special.
@@nogardluos4616yah I agree I remember the world championship too it was super funny than usual
I think "ruined" is a huge exaggeration. As for game balance, I'd say that just buffing some defenses (perhaps by implementing another merged defense like mortars or wizard towers), and slightly nerfing the root riders a tiny bit more would make for pretty great balance. Even with things as they are, many top pro players in tournaments still miss some attacks, so just some balancing could do
shh, he needs the revenue from views, hence the exaggeration
Yeah just introduce new level of spell towers and monolith and buff them at low lv
Introduce new level of trap door and gander at flying root riders
@@guycross493 bro that will ruine the game more imagine your pekka flying 😂
Yeah I was about to say. Maybe break clash of clans, but definitely didn’t ruin the game. When I see ruin, I assume break to the point where the game is unplayable and beyond repair.
I swear one of these days he's going to make a video about why clash of clans ruined supercell
Imagine if he uploads the next day how th16 ruined your dinner at 11 pm FOR NO FUCKING REASON. He makes money by ruining the fun rn dont believe him😂
@@TheUltimateFahdI don’t disagree with this, personally I don’t think th 16 is perfect but it might as well be, I think I would prefer if they would just buff electro titan, make it 40 housing space and give it the stats a tank troop at th 14 let alone 15 and 16, needs, root rider feels like I got cheated out of a electro titan buff
@@samuelbrown7466 ok
One of the biggest complaints of TH15 was it was too hard. You can't make everyone happy
You can have a balance, I.e not too hard or easy
@@animefan7424 finding that balance is the hard part
I thought they are going to make it easy and after the second update it's going to get harder but nothing changed
I honestly don’t get this sentiment. I can easily two star most th15s and I upgraded to th15 a couple months ago….. even if they’re maxed out at 15
@@eliholtkamp9161that’s because you weren’t there to attack th15s on release, most of the important defenses have gotten nerfed since then
The people mad about root riders are the same who have been spamming dragons for years
Someone realised this 😂
I've been spamming yeties and dragons for years - don't care lmao
IMO it is a bit better now because earlier th15 was hell for casual players and almost impossible to 3 star at. Thats just me tho
At th15 it's practically near impossible to 3 if you don't practice the strategy for a long time, I like the way it is now
Higher level townhall should be harder and why would a casual player play at the maximum level if they don't want harder attack.
@@davenjoshbaquing6097 tbh I don't think its correct to divide into casual & competitive eplayer, coc player base seems more like hardcore and lazy😅
@@Azceus522 the end of literally any game is SUPPOSED to be hard so that its a challenge to get to the finish. If its stupid easy then why is it special that you got to the end?
@@Snek5981 for me personally I just enjoy the base building part of the game so I don't really mind too much about offense balance. Th15 in the past I guess that would b the ideal difficulty for some players, but ppl like myself who want to be good in attack but just have absolutely no time to practice I'd say it's pretty close to a nightmare, sure we can spend money to buy time aka max everything but can't buy experience, or is it like the players who are busy irl bit still like and want to perform good in the game don't even deserve to get a 3 stars? I'm interested in the opinion about it
imagine a golem that has the damage of a balloon that can also break walls like a wall breaker
that's root riders
Also 20 housing space instead of 30
It's still dumb how root riders get a nerf but dragons got buffs. We've all long accepted the fact walls are merely decorations since seige machines were added, and root riders being able to just walk through walls is fine.
But also it's boring how much dragons get forced into meta every time a new TH gets added.
By the way, overgrowth may seem OP; but it's also easy to screw yourself up by putting it down at the wrong time or spot. So far ive rarely seen it used in general, even during this CWL. I've gotten it down by using a certain strat for it but my clan mates haven't picked up on it yet. Plus it seems pointless to use on any TH below 14 or 15.
Walls make bases look intimidating, hence *skip* *skip* **skip**
I just hope Coc experiments more. We dont need another troop which destroys walls. Why dont they do something weird?
Hero equipment is a step in the right direction... but imo, most of them are just like spells, e.g. frost arrow is like freeze spell. The two which are really unique are giant gauntlet and the giant arrow.
The new spell also feels like a retextured freeze/invis spell
Disfunctional trying not to say the word “obviously” every video challenge (impossible)
The esport scene could just start to ban troops and speeds that are too OP, because they clearly have another meta than the average player
The nerf to Defensive Heroes was too much, along with the defenses nerfs. Root Riders were released broken and are still very strong. Overgrowth is still being tested but it might be the strongest Spell in the game just for funneling purpouses alone along with shutting down Eagle Artillery easily
I feel they should not have nerfed spell towers
@@divyanshuthakur3011 The Spell tower nerfs were Justified. Poison is super annoying and had no counter, while Rage was insanely strong and can easily shut down an attack.
People really complained because TH15 was “too hard”, so they made the game easy and now people still complain.
Even though the game is “easy” rn, I avoid using root rider. I’m fr trynna get good at QC Lalo, I never learned it and it’s been the only attack I’ve been using since TH16 dropped.
The game is what you make it though, if you want an easy time, use meta troops.
If you want to have a challenge, make your own attack strategy or use a higher skill base attack strat.
you forget, that people attack you. It could frustrate some players getting 100% over and over, while spending much money. I personally stopped playing the game.
@@JonSnow-nv1em i personally don’t mind if my base gets 3starred, cause the only times that it does, is by people who abuse root riders. They make walls look like tooth picks, but like I said, that’s the meta rn. I can’t be mad or get frustrated when people are simply using the meta. It’s part of the game. If they ever get patched to the point where they fall out of meta, then those same people are going to struggle finding an easy attack strat. It’s just how the game works, nothing will ever be 100% balanced.
@Moraldog QC Lalo and other variants are still top 3. Root riders comps take the 1 and 2 spot, but QC is still good.
It seems harder now, but once you understand how to attack certain base layouts, it’s rinse and repeat tbh.
you completly forgot to mention the massive defense nerfs that made attacking in general easy
Since the overgrowth spell is so good I belive it should take 3 housing spaces. That would also be a good thing to diverse spells housing spaces, since the clone spell is currently the only one that costs 3 housing spaces
So we’re complaining again
That’s all he does basically
New title: complaining to just complain
Man’s is just out of video ideas
Commenting just to comment😂
Bro calls th 15 too hard and complains and then th 16 too easy and complains
So, the solution is a happy medium, yes?
@@sebastianlucas704lol he’s dumb, doesn’t understand that there could be a happy in between 😂so thick lol
Klaus be like: Root riders? Never heard o'em.
I had an interesting suggestion for changing RRs. That could be to give them a shared healthpool so they're less effective when spammed. This would make it more of a single threat so it couldn't be abused for free funneling unless you really wanted to face that downside. IDK how to balance the numbers but just think of it in concept. ---
Incase you're wondering how it'd work from a deployment standpoint, you'd see the HP on the RR deploy bar and if it reaches 0, all root riders either die or have a system similar to super hog rider so new units deployed after the root dies can just be the riders. That suggestion is obviously a bit complicated but I could definitely see it working and not completely overshadowing other units as a result. It'd be creative and fun to play around if you desired. And if not, you still have Golems and SWBs.
It could also work from a logic standpoint since all RRs could be using the same root. We don't know.
The thing is most players are casual player's so supercell has some spam troop to make them feel good not everyone is into planning before attack. Same thing is with the edragon
Thank god it ruined the stale ass cancer meta that was in the game for a while, back to the nice and chill game I missed. Fuck them pros, we gaming.
Ok nub
You should consider checking how annoying the deployment area is for higher town hall levels
Because you can just cover the whole area and it leaves you with an annoyingly small space in the corner to place your troop
They need to add a corner mechanic to punish these annoying strategy
Your content is so high quality for a relatively small channel
No, it really isnt.
@@lunathecutest6652 lol ok
It's not bad quality by any means, but definitely not high quality.
“No No
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Honestly I wonder if you should just be able to upgrade the basic cannons/archer towers to th16 level, with the merged defences staying the same
Supercell nerfed defenses that’s what happened
You know what's crazy? The fact that you can unlock the overgrown spell at th 12
It's a lot easier than th15, but the game is about competing with other players. Unless you're near the top of the leaderboards, then I dont see how you can claim it to be easy
If root riders are the problem, just ban them from the pro scene and let 99.999% of the player base enjoy the OP attack strategies.
Keep spamming no one is stopping you yet
@@korzhikmorzhik I am a TH 14, I am scared root riders will be nerfed before I can access them at TH 15
@@parth17bhatia well they will lol thankfully unless you get to th15 before the next update
@@parth17bhatia and don't be scared RR are a cancer in this game, just ruins the fun tbh
Anyone realize the defenses have been the same since th11? Why haven’t tbey added a 5th xbow yet, or a 4th inferno, or even a second tornado trap? They need more balance in the defense
Trying to stop the kids from saying first
You still technically did it tho - now you’re part of the problem
seCoND 🤓🤓🤓🤡
@@amogussus6942 you can look at the comments section
The competitive community is so small compared to the large player base that keeps the game alive most players prefer the game to not take a bunch of time to master it’s a game people pull out a couple times a day to kill time they are catering to their player base which in my eyes is a good thing
Im glad the pros are speaking out. Th15 was hard, but the highest lvl should be hard. We track stats with a bot on discord and I had around a 30% hit rate at 15, now at 16 im hovering around 90%. I didnt just become a pro overnight, the game just fell apart. Between new troop, spell, defense nerfs, and hero equipment, the game just got way way to easy.
the ores are completely counter intuitive right now, after players begged for some balance and change for heroes upgrades, they didn’t even touch them in the last updates. i was hoping that supercell wouldn’t be greedy like they did with royale, but it seems they’re taking the same steps slowly 😢
Watching this after your TH15 video is wild, total switchup. And a content creator for a game not understanding what the devs meant by their tweet is really concerning
I think the overgrowth spell is great as it is except for the bad balancing right now. With troops being so strong, even if you screw up your attack with the funnel and end up getting a bunch of defenses behind you and aren't properly taking care of them, you can make an easy recovery. You should be able to accidentally ruin your attack by flinging troops into a high damage situation. I think root riders would make way more sense if they have a hit point range from 4000 to 6000 the most. Since they can completely negate walls, they should only be a lighter tank. You want them tanking, but you also want to fight to keep them alive.
Why cant they make a specific format for pro where they get less housing space to work or ban certain troops
The problem for the pros is the tie breaker being time (since strategic attacks like queen walk takes time, compared to just spamming). My idea is for the tie breaker to be "lest army" where the person who used the least housing space wins. If that's the same, the tie breaker for that could be time.
Nah, the problem is there’s too many perfect wars. Shouldnt be a tie every stinking war. They’re so boring to watch now..
In the recent match of NAVI vs Tribe gaming, navi in the first match lost 13-15 to tribe,but then in second match every body in navi used root rider spam and won 15-15(on time) . If this goes on , we might lose the crazy attacks of klaus and other creative players and everyone will just shift to root rider spam because otherwise they wont win
I’m so happy I’m not maxed out in games like this because these constant increases of the max level with annoying new troops seems like hell to play
what really needs to happen is the overgrowth spell should be removed. There is no way to nerf it because its very concept is horrible.
Just give it 3 spell spaces than 2
@@ca1wi1 but it still ruins the point of funneling even if it is 3 space. and it will still be an op spell
Technically the root rider has more health per housing space than the golem does
A game doesn't revolve around competitive players only...a major major chunk of players are causal players who just love to enjoy the game...so I am glad to use new stuffs in the game in my weekend after whole week duty
Bro you're reading my mind I was hopping for someone to talk about this point
Root rider changes: 20-25 housing space
-25% health at all levels.
-10% speed
Small Community tournaments and Minor COC tournaments literally banned Root Riders to avoid boring matches 😂😂 thats how you know they fucked up
What if we can have an unbreakable wall defence?🤔
You cannot box a defend with it though
People seem to be forgetting what STRATEGY is all about. The game in its current state, has non of it.
They need to add friendly war modifiers where you can make the game easier or harder so pros are happy and regular players aren’t hating the game
This like the 11 Town hall problem with the e drag spam
Imagine putting new heroes equipment to make sure they can't use in defense mode
Also very frustrating in Clan Wars, I'm almost maxed TH 14 and top of my clan but in wars often face TH 15 or 16 as direct opponents. And the TH 14 defenses just do nothing really against the root riders, just spam them and they almost always three star me and in reverse because they have much stronger defenses I rarely get to three star them myself. The root riders and stronger defenses are just to OP if you are "just" a TH 14
E sports should introduce heroes ban or something. Like one team can't use BK or AQ or RC and other has different heroes but warden is excluded from ban list
Many top clan players have been complaining about how Overpowered rootriders are the first week it comes out but no content creators bothered to talk about it.
Now Klaus started to voice it up suddenly everybody is talking about Rootriders.😂😂
In my opinion some of what you've said here is wrong,
When I want to upgrade the hero equipment and I'm looking at my ores, I woke up with a bunch of them, maybe from wars but I suppose mostly from multiplayer since I play it the most.
As for the root rider, it seems to be the same situation as the electro dragon was. I don't think you can get bored by mass spamming root riders as it seems to be satisfying, almost like the e drag spamming.
Pros are a minimum part of the player base ,casual players derserve opportunities too
Instead of the max town hall being the easiest they should make like town hall 12 13 14 easier and then 15 and 16 harder for pro players but then again that's just me a non multi million player game developer
you should have more subs, great clash content, im surprised you're as small as you are
Th10 vs Th10 back in og times was impossible
Electric dragon have been so over used for time it's nice to see some ground units getting some love to be honest
tbh i think that the overgrowth spell should just last as long as a freeze spell and revert the whole equipment thing to where you still have the equipment, but its only leveled every five hero levels, as well as removing the root rider just being able to destroy every wall by walking through it, thats the mountain golem's thing
the changes are about as pointless as the builder base attack rework
honestly i think it should be 10secs hence the 2 spell usage, AND REDUCED SIZE HOLY SHIT THE RADIUS OF THIS THING
@@TheHeadlesss 20+ seconds is a rediculous ammount. 10 would honestly be more manageable. freeze spells are only really an issue if theyre spammed, which i see a lot in clan wars im in
@@Issengan honestly i think freeze is a bit on the skillless side but pretty needed for the game since of infernos
@@TheHeadlesss interesting, but i mainly say freeze spell since they do similarly to the overgrowth spell, make it unable to do anything for a set time. i personally just use invis, earthquake, and lightning for my attacks
@@Issengan i use 4 rages for my QC 2 freezes to reset infernos, 1 poison for CC or defending Queen, 1 growth spell because i guess abuse it while you can (im a th11 in legends league so i need the most power i can)
Clickbait nonsense. Our clan is in champs 1. The first 3 days of this season every war has been won with between 36-39 stars. That is not broken. The clan in first place is using dragons. The pros need a new system, where they play with nerfed offense &/or buffed defense. The way they have a different tee for pro golfers. But I guess that’s a less clickbait title…
For pro it's too easy to 3, so the result comes down to time which is even more annoying than before + not creating enough tension for audience. Thats prob the reason they r upset
@@Azceus522literally just to triple fast pros are forced to using Root rider, valk spam and Edrag spam.. and zap lalo under 1min30sec
@@pokegeniusLv96 yeah cuz every attack is 3 so speed is the key
"No just nerfing it wont fix it"
It literally would, Reduce wall damage, Increase Population, Reduce Health.
Anything and it would help tremendously.
But "I like money" speaks louder.
Warden's Fire Ball Equipment is being COOKED in the comments.
Probably i will wait for new update in April or May.
This is a very unpopular opinion saying TH16 ruined clash when everyone was whining TH15 was too hard. They haven't even added everything to TH16 yet.
TH16 has been the most fun since TH12. Ground attacks are finally much more viable and reliable thanks to root riders, it’s not just air attacks anymore but you can still use them if you want.
I definitely don’t think root riders need another nerf, that’s not the solution. Instead, a buff to defenses would be the best move
i‘m fully maxed th16 and in master 1 league cwl no one has ever 3 star me i think thats ballanced enough
They need to up housing space of root 20to30
TH12 was the most balanced town hall with the most interesting strategies imo
Ight hear me out. Maybe a base building, asynchronous mobile game doesn’t NEED competitive balancing or tournaments.
It's Edrags all over again isn't it?
Yes every spam are op no plan needed just spam
me as a th9 watching this knowing damn well ill have to deal with this in the future be like: dear god.....please NO
Some people are haters, voice your concerns and it will be answered
Everything was fine at TH14. 3-starring wasn't impossible (like at TH15), but it was relatively rare. Pro matches had 12-14 star scores 90% of the time. At TH15, pro matches seemed to remain the same, but casual players found it extremely hard. Now, it is a piece of cake to 3 star. What the hell?
Why did they nerf the Town Hall poison, X-Bows and Scattershots if they already nerfed the Rage Towers?
I think Root Rider's housing space should go up to 30. Scattershots and X-Bows need their original stats back (when TH15 was maxed). Rage Tower can remain as it is.
top competitive players need to be able to set their own rule sets... Pro players will always break any patch in any game... We have had the same problem in Overwatch for years and I think it is time to give pro competition more tools to limit broken (for pro play) aspects of the game while still keeping the game as is for casual players...
root riders should have 24 housing space
Make the defence more strong and increase town hall level and it's poison level
we need sand rider in th17, just like gaara of the sand
root rider needs 25 housing space instead of 20 atleast.
I think the game would be balanced again if they deleted root riders. Currently theres no point using anything else with roots being so damn OP
I disagree I love that th 16 is easy I hated th 15 the pros don't matter they had an easy town hall made for them already its called town hall 15 they literally said town hall 15 was easy but for most people it was the opposite I was stuck in a 1or 2 star loop when ever I attacked before town hall 16 came out
i like how people say root riders are brainless and that they will stop playing game , when same damn thing happened in th12 with edragons .Yes it is boring for defender but it will pass just as th 12 and edrag spam passed since i can guarantee we will get some broken tank killing machine in th 17 just to counter root rider as we got s shooter in th13 just to counter e drag
TH15 is just as easy as TH16 now because of the equipment. If we didn't have the equipment, TH16 would be just as hard IMO. I don't think the answer is to keep nerfing troops. I think the equipment needs to be nerfed if anything.
root rider is e drag for higher town halls
What where they thinking nerfing the spell towers and other of tha major defense is a bad decisions and add the most broken troop and also buff the dragon. This is strategy game no more. Just spam all troops and equip your hero all of the most broken equipment and what the defense have? A new defense that sacrifice 8 defense just to get 4 new defense. Even a baby can 3 star this game
I get a lot of people are focus on the troops but it’s easy balance fix here and there. The real issue is these new equipment cost a lot of time and or/ or money to get these things max. For lower th levels they basically say your never going to max before going to next th. Encouraging people to rush. So many weak heroes and equipment around now. Will only get worse. Balance the rate at which we acquire ores. And I don’t think hp nerf is enough for root rider they knew when they made root riders smash attacks with healers would take over. They needed to add a new defense at th16 like another monolith and a spell tower. Sense they made room… rant over
If Klaus (The best player in the world) said that this game is not a strategy game anymore you know you fucked up 😂
Istg town halls are released like every 4 months
I think it's maybe time to make some defenses deal more damage against root riders. Imagine Infernal towers dealing 25% more damage and... let's throw also the town hall weapon deal this bonus damage to root riders only
personal opinion, i hated town hall 15, been only playing for exactly 3 years as of last month. and let me say this as someone who doesn't have no skills in coc. the game was getting extremely boring because of how difficult it was to 3 star, i swear to god i think i only ever 3 stared like a dozen bases in my life time. now that town hall 16 came out and these new super op equipment are available, i've actually been enjoying this game. its made me enjoy the grind of coc again, yes ore is hard to obtain but thats the fun part about clash. also like why do i need to be a pro in order to enjoy a game, if pros want some sort of challenge then dont use them simple, use lalo or something else. where the game stands right now i think is perfect, i hope it doesn't ever go back to town hall 15 days 😅
I don’t see a problem with the RR I get as many defences against them as anything else… Don’t seem to be a problem I’m in titan 1 but usually in legend
Make spring traps upgrade to 20 housing space so that they can counter root riders
Trust me this is the solution
I hate those heri equipment make this game more p2w than usual. They don't want to give new heroes but instead give player new way to spend money more.
Oh boy, I can't wait to listen to my favorite youtuber yap my ass off today about how something so fucking miniscule ruined the game for everyone.
dammit donot increase hit point of building just nerf root rider i just attack with edragon but triple is still hard to get just 2 stars 60-70 percent
Dude this game strategys was already ruined when they added electro dragon. And they even added op super dragon . The air meta was the worst
The only thing I really want is make the purple ores easier to get. Why tf is it so needlessly difficult to get. In fact it would be better if we can convert extra loot into ores to make things easier
most people didn't know how is patient, on their mind : i need to max out everything in 2 hours