Should Atheists Study The Bible?
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- čas přidán 16. 03. 2020
- Should Atheists study the bible? I think the answer is yes. In this video, I give 3 reasons why Atheists should study the bible and give a list of 10 books for the layperson to begin their journey into biblical scholarship.
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I'm currently a christian, but this channel has been the nicest and more research filled channels for challenging my views. I enjoy your content, and use it for trying to achieve a level and rational view of the world way back then. I hope your education will propel you into a well respected voice in academia
I study the bible for a deeper knowledge of history and the religions that surrounded it. I just love knowledge.
I study it as a historian because it is an integral part of Western Civilization,
@Ant B You seem to not understand what historians and anthropologists do.
@@DBCisco
You seem not to understand that if the Great flood Happened when the Bible says it happened there would not be enough people to build the pyramids a 100 years later..
Bible history is completely wrong.
@@lutkedog1 Why do you think that I think ancient myths are real ?
@@DBCisco
I don't " believe " " i think ", Ancient Myths are not real.
I do not want to be like these christians here using words like Believe, Faith,
Could Have, Probably, Might Have, These words are the sign of a liar.
Okay, you convinced me.
We should all study the bible for its cultural influences, for its mythologies and for critical reasoning!
The bible is about values. It teaches how to live a good life here on earth. What if people just followed the 10 commandments and stopped lying, stealing, envying, etc.
@@uppitywhiteman6797 Buddha said the same thing as does the Golden Rule. Studying and doing are two different things.
@@stridedeck no kidding
I love this. People often don't take me seriously because I love studying the Bible, theology, philosophy and history. I find those subjects very interesting and worthy of respect. I am now a Catholic and I'm very grateful for the way you approach religion as a whole.
I can't leave this comment section without saying that God is the truth, and those who look for the truth with good intentions in heart, will find it eventually. Happened to me.
Keep up the good work.
This is the premium content I want from an atheist. I saw couple of video and I can say it's the well educated and well researched (I don't know about all your other videos though, but I'm subscribed now so I'm following).
Do you know/follow any other atheist youtube channel that are worth it? Apart from yours I feel like others are just trolling and trashing religions with too weak of points to even bother discussing at all.
I'm actually a Bible nerd myself, former agnostic but fell into Christianity after a search on different religions, religious texts, scientific explanations and different point of views.
But I'm still seeking further and as far as I am right now, your videos really helps me learning in an academic point of view.
I have always believed that if one is going to interact in any fashion with people holding another viewpoint, it pays to know exactly what their viewpoint is and what it is based on. In any discussion, knowing the material the other side is using thoroughly is always necessary first, to accurately engage in the discussion yourself [rather than some silly comments I have heard some people make about what they think the book says] and also if the other side is misrepresenting the biblical position, it is important to know that.
If you know what the text means in the original languages and thus can place the text in the correct internal and cultural context, you are way ahead of the other side in any discussion. It is also useful in that one can take portions of the text and see where it actually comes from. Pretty much everyone knows about how the Noah's Ark story is adapted from the earlier Babylonian [and other] flood stories. But are you familiar with the fact that portions of say Acts are pretty much ripped off from stories in pagan mythology as well as the Old Testament, reformed into characters in the New Testament? Many stories in the Gospels are retellings of religious figures in the Old Testament? I can guarantee that most of the Christians you come into contact with do not.
Informative as always~ Would it be weird to say I'm basically following this channel religiously? LMFAO
@Milwauke Arhiest will you include stuff concerning the Lutheran denomination and commentaries over certain books ? I'm an agnostic who left the Lutheran church and I'm just curious if would love the content guys keep it up!
A lot of cosmic light knowledge, Mazzaroth, Zodiac the table of the last supper, the circuit of Galilee. The SUns transition throughout the celestial year.
Should atheists study the Koran?
In the middle east, yes.
Have you come across William Mitchell Ramsay's work?
Hi
Here is a question for you. What does Matthew 27:5-10 have in common with Jeremiah 38:6-13?
Answer:
1. a hanging
2. the name “Jeremiah”
3. potter’s field/mud
4. a treasury (Jeremiah's for some reason had warn-out clothes under it.)
5. The number “thirty” (Jeremiah needed 30 men to help with his hanging.)
Note that if Matthew 27:9 did not contain the "error" in which "Jeremiah" is named instead of "Zechariah", this ALLUSION would probably not be recognized by even those that have been initiated into the "Mysteries". When the author of the Gospel of Matthew intentionally placed an error in his account of Judas' "death", he created a puzzle that needed solving.
So, now the question is: What does the Jeremiah passage have to do with Judas? Obviously it would not take 30 men to pull Jeremiah out of the cistern, and the "worn-out clothes" that were under the "treasury" and put under Jeremiah's arms appear to be a strange and trivial detail, but when these two ideas are combined they create another allusion to Judges 14 which tells the story of how Samson challenged his 30 companions with a riddle and how his wife betrayed him and gave away the answer so that Samson was forced to reward his companions with new cloths. So this passage not only indicates the source of the old cloths that were under the treasury in Jeremiah, but it also brings in the idea of betrayal connected to Judas. The the original "clothes" represent a cover story that was exposed as a fraud, so that a new cover story needed to be created. Both Judas and Jeremiah brought out these old clothes. In Jeremiah's case this caused the destruction of the "Temple", but in Judas' case this led to the crucifixion of the "son of David".
What I am suggesting is that when atheists study the Bible they should not stick to the "straight" path and the "narrow" gate. Follow the crooked path and enter through the wide (platus) gate. There are many of these puzzles in the Bible and many of them have been identified as "errors", "contradictions", and "parallels" by atheists. The Bible is a deliberate fraud but the authors have played an elaborate game with it, in which they use allegory to conceal real world knowledge and solving the numerous puzzles is essential in deciphering the allegory and exposing the fraud. Such an "uncovering" is metaphorically referred to as an "apocalypse".
One more thing to consider. The name "Judas" can be viewed as being derived from the Hebrew word "yada" which means "to know" and this idea then links Judas to the Gnostics.
Hey i point out Genesis 2 17 this Verse is God saying that If they eat from the tree that will die on that day, and they did not die on that day plain and simple.Matter of fact 4 newest bibles of the 27 in bible hub has removed " you will die on that day "
Christians will respond that the words are no good unless you use the Holy Spirit for your understanding or some have went as far to say
" It might not be hice where you are going but the Verse says what it says, that they will die on that day you do not need any form of translation for these words.
The chief priests bought the field. Mt.27:6,7.
Judas bought the field. Acts 1:16-19.
Judas threw down the money and left. Mt.27:5. Judas used the coins to buy the field. Acts 1:18.
Judas hanged himself. Mt.27:5. Judas fell headlong and burst his head open. Acts 1:18.
So in time any lie is evident.
This is what those asshole who wrote Matthew did. corrupting the Old Testament to insert Jesus.
@@lutkedog1 In the literal meaning, yes it does appear simple that they did not "die", however, this is allegory with "life" and "good" associated with literal meanings while "death" and "evil" are associated with hidden meanings. As a metaphor "Adam" appeared to have survived, but this is only a "shadow" of who he really represents. Remember that the supposed author of Genesis, Moses, had some sort of "speech impediment" which means that we should be allowed to question the pronunciation of his words. In Hebrew, the "rib" that was supposedly used to create "Eve" is expressed as "tsela", while the word for "shadow" is expressed as "tsel", which means that it is possible to understand Eve as representing the "shadow" of Adam. This is the same "shadow" that Plato would later describe in his Allegory of the Cave. The name "Eve" is then understood to mean "life" which which can be viewed as a "reflection" of "death". (The name "Adam" means "to be red" which can be connected to the "red pill" from the Matrix, while the word "matrix" itself comes from the Latin and means "womb" thus again linking the false world with females.) Also, remember that the first thing that Adam and Eve did after eating the fruit was to "cover" themselves and "hide" and this act represents the invention of allegory. But if the allegory is properly interpreted, it becomes possible to "raise the dead".
In reality, religion is all about hiding the truth through allegory and all "sins" are metaphors for attempting to discover truth or destroy cover. It is commonly thought that the word "religion" is actually derived from the Latin "religare" which means "to bind fast" and this word, in turn is related to the Latin "alligare" which means "bind to". Again, we can assume that the words are not pronounced correctly and "alligare" is intended to mean "allegory" (from the Greek "allegoria") which can be defined as the "binding" of a "cover" ("female") to a real world idea ("male"). If this view is accepted then it becomes obvious as to why "homosexuality" is considered to be such a great sin since it represents knowledge without cover.
@@warrensmith8161
Like i said they did not die on that day you show a lack of understanding of words.
Also what does "speech impediment"
"homosexuality" have to do with i have stated ?
@@warrensmith8161
If you told your children that if they touched the hot stove they would get burned would that be allegory ?
It is no different than God warning Eve about eating the fruit of the tree.
YES or NO is it Allegory ?
@@lutkedog1 No, a stove is real and the potential harm is real; there is no hidden meaning. The God of the Bible is a metaphor, the Garden of Eden is a metaphor, Adam and Eve are metaphors, the trees in the Garden are metaphors, the fruit is a metaphor. None of it was real.
I don't think I've ever known a Christian who has studied the Bible (well, excepting pastors, probably). Most of them don't seem to have a clue what's in it. And they're certainly not Christians because of what the Bible says. They're Christians - every Christian _I've_ ever known, at least - because that's what they were taught to believe as children.
Studying the Bible is great, if you're interested in it. But what if you're not? By and large, Christians aren't Christian because they've studied the Bible. There would be a whole lot fewer Christians if that were the case!
I'm not saying you're wrong about studying the Bible. Again, if you're interested in it, great. But I've got lots of other things I'd rather do. And I don't really _care_ what it says in the Bible. If Christians don't have even *one* piece of good evidence that their god actually exists, or *one* piece of good evidence that _any_ of the magic stories in the Bible actually happened, that's all I really care about.
And if they make a claim, it's usually pretty easy to check what scholars think about it. (Usually, Christians mention some guy who lived centuries later, or claim that anonymous accounts written decades later are "eyewitness testimony." You don't need to be an expert to see the problem with that.)
I encourage everyone interested to study the Bible. I'm just not particularly interested in that, myself. But then, I'm 69 years old, and I'm lazy. :)
I find pastors like most christians only read the non controversial content of the bible.
Genesis 2 17 KJV But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. They-Did-Not-Die-On-That-Day
You don't know many devout Christians if you don't think many Christians study the Bible. Like you say, you're not particularly interested.
@@lutkedog1 You don't understand biblical language the bible speaks od death metaphorically and death of the Spirit.
@@uppitywhiteman6797
You are only making it up.
@@lutkedog1 No, you're just ignorant of Biblical speech. Most of the Bible is metaphor, analogy, and parable. It's the ancient, eastern way of teaching and explaining the world.
The point is that you have to spend the effort to figure it out, that way you really learn the lesson.
Why atheists should study the bible why should atheists study the Qur'an vedas and confusionist and taoist philosophy
In a separate video you stated all or most atheists have already read the bible. Contradicting yourself! 😂
Study =/= read. Those are different things. Plenty of Atheists have, in fact, read the Bible. Few, however, study it. That's not a contradiction
Why read the bible and not The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
Great Pumpkin is better, just like Jesus he never came.
Ha you seen it when you were a kid :)
Why would an atheist debate a Christian? Or vice versa? They are both faiths. Neither can be argued scientifically.
'atheism' isn't a faith, that's newSpeak. People can turn your argument around and call "science" a religion, which they already have. So, what are you saying?
Atheism is being skeptical of the existence of invisible, anthropomorphic supreme beings.
Xtians claim that they believe in such a being, the only real one out of millions, and they don't keep it to themselves. You can test the info in the bible scientifically and historically, and it fails miserably. It's consistent with every other myth out there.
They put "in god we suck" on our money, anthem, motto. They've infected our politics and culture. They endorse laws and policies that adversely affect the lives of others.
Bottom line, they are the ones making the claim - that everyone must bow to this deity, and they need to defend this. After many debates with apologists, it's clear that they can't.
@The Stolen Earth The faith there is no God. God's existence is outside the realm of science.
@The Stolen Earth That there is no God.
@@uppitywhiteman6797
Which god are you talking about there?
No the bible is not real it is stories to explain a power greater than ourselves. I believe in the Universe Hinduism is more believable then the bible. And everyone has a right to their down opinion s and beliefs.
How very Hinduof you.