How to write Dark Hypnotic Techno Melody (+ non-melodic hook tips) [Ableton Techno Tutorial]
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- This is a great starting point/method to write dark techno melody, and if you hate musical melody and rather like noisier pattern, I show you tips for that too !
⌚ Timeline:
00:00 Intro
01:16 How do you start ?
Rhythm
02:26 : Number of Note
02:50 : Note Length
03:10 : Velocity
06:11 Loop Length (overlooked)
07:15 Delay Rhythm
07:33 Q&A Pattern
08:01 Other methods
Melody
08:55 Which Scale, Chromatic ?
09:28 Which notes, all of them ?
10:08 Different Octave
10:15 Avoid cheesy melody
10:49 Linear Pitch
Timber
13:03 Detuning Oscillator
14:58 Subtle Random Pitch LFO
15:38 Square LFO Pitch
16:25 Glide
Melody Hater
17:06 Play Timber like A melody
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Well that was a pleasant random CZcams recommendation. Sometimes I regret learning music theory because it's hard to learn how to be spontaneous and naive again. Lots of good ideas in here.
thanks, to be honest I have a bit of basics but I am scare to learn to much as like you say after it's hard to get out of your comfort zone...
Damn, you explained my frustration 5 years ago.
I was making tracks, but most of them sounded like trance from 2004.
And now I realize, that this because of my music theory experience.
I used to keep myself in harmony.
But actually sometimes you just need some random things. =)
@@SlavaChromewild realization .. relatable 🤯🤙🏼
Music theory is actually easy. When you do understand it.
@@mukulkataria9128 It is, but it also stunts the creativity of a lot of people.
Thanks! Thanks! Thanks for your channel!
I just discovered it, already the best techno tutorial channel, even in not my usual language.
I have for hours and hours to watch and rewatch your videos but i will really progress.
Thanks for your help for all techno production passionated.
thanks mate I really appreciate it ! have fun haha !
Thanks for the vid, Paul, it's always great to see another of your videos uploaded!
thanks mate !
Unbelievable that this is available on youtube. This is so useful and value added. I recently bought your sample packs really good quality. This is all I need! Thanks
thanks for your kind words and thanks for your support 🙏
I have lost the count how many ideas and inspiration you shared, wow. Amazing
haha thank you so much !
Paul always coming through! Going to apply these techniques for sure !!
Thanks Danny !
Just found this video while in an experimental mood and followed along in live 11. Thank you! This lead to some creative spark!
Happy to hear that !
Hey man thank you so much for all the excellent content. I've been binging your videos and have learned a ton. Also loving all the free sound racks you provide with the videos. Just purchased a sample pack to show my appreciation, keep up the great work!
thank you for your kind words and thank you for your support, I appreciate it ! glad you enjoy the content, cheers !
Thank you for really bringing what we can all learn every day! your contribution is very valuable.
Thanks for many good tips. Especially How to start. I tested your workflow with 16 "startnotes" , then created them longer and pitched them to other notes in the scale and that was a much easier way to create a melody. The last tips works for me too when I work with OP-Z and use the LFO, punch-in or tape-effects. Once again Thanks!
you're welcome , glad it could help somehow ! cheers!
Thanks so much for this dude! I'm always keen to learn new methodologies. Your vids are the best
Thanks mate , I really appreciate !
Thank you soo much. This is the kind of tutorial i needed! Keep up the videos about deep/hypnotic techno. You are the onlyone who shows the secrets of this kind of techno, which i love the most
I will definitely do more as they are my favourite too ! But I want to cover other techno subgenre too !
In case you don't know of them I can recommend Yan cook's channel and also the channel SINEE (it's in german but still pretty easy to follow), both of these share some secrets/techniques. But yes AYNIL is the main one and the only one I know with a lot of content.
EDIT: Saw now you wrote more like deep techno, check out Hypnus Records channel. Ntogn has some walkthroughs there. But other than that I don't know anyone else really.
@@-RXB- great recommendation ;)
This is excellent content. Ive come so far in my creative process ever since tuning into your channel!
Happy to hear that ! Cheers
This video could not have came at a better time for me, thank you so much for these videos, should I ever become a recognised artist I will make sure to repay you!
haha glad to hear that ! well if you need my bank detail I'll be happy to give it haha 🤣
Thanks man! Super useful tips. I wish I saw this earlier. I’m Definitely going to use some methods.
you're welcome, glad it was helpuf !
Juste merci pour tout, tes prods sont vraiment trop bien, c'est un honneur d'avoir tes conseils!
merci a toi et avec plaisir !
Amazing! Will study this techniques for sure!
Thanks !
Have just stumbled across your channel, WOW! so inspiring, good work mate!
thanks mate, I appreciate !
Дружище ты гений! Твой канал это лучшее что есть в просторах интернета 👌
Большое спасибо за добрые слова
What a powerfull Video! Many thanks for this great tips!
You're so welcome!
Sounding like straight up proper Techno sir 👊🏽✌🏼
thanks mate !
Brilliant tutorial as always! 💪 Thank you! 👊
you're welcome !
Just stumbled upon this channel by mistake.. The content is incredible, it took me years of making music to actually reach some of the conclusions you've just explained... Great job, keep it up!
It's just little details and nuances that change everything..
Thanks mate I really appreciate, yeah the little detail and subtle change are often what makes the difference !
Paul, you are a legend. 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
haha no quite yet ! cheers
Great tutorial - bought the Wavetable preset pack too - nice work as always.
thank you and thanks for your support, I appreciate !
Another amazing video mate.
thanks mate !
Excellent tutorial and great tips which applies to any DAW. Thanks :)
Thanks mate !
hey dude, you made my day, took some new tricks from you, thank you a lot!
Glad to hear that ! Cheers!
Top stuff as usual!
Thanks mate !
Top content as usual! Thanks a lot 🙏
Thank you very much !
Thanks a million, it's very difficult to find any help for this type of techno. these aids greatly improve amateur producers like me. best wishes!!!
thanks mate, glad it could help you !
Great video as always💯💯💥💥
Thanks again!
the melody is by: Jeff mills - the bells
indeed but too late for the prize!
Its so dark!
You think🥴🤪
Excellent stuff mate, thanks
You're welcome ! Cheers !
The best Channel ever. love youre content
thanks mate, I really appreciate !
Amazing work !!! i love it :)
Thank you! Cheers!
Very handy tutorial. Thank You ! :)
You're welcome, glad you liked it !
awesome! thank you for this lesson!!!
My pleasure! cheers
Oh the detuning osc part reminded me of dvs1 - good stuff!
yeah I probably have been inspired unconsciously haha !
Really good stuff. Thanks!
Glad it helped! cheers !
Thats TRUE information!! Thanks man! You help me a lot learning how to produce! Melody from 10:30 ; Jeff Mills - The Bells :P
Haha yes indeed
Great content!
thank you very much !
Always a master !
thanks you very much !
Good quality tutorial :) Thx
thank you very much !
Amazing tutorials Paul! Main hooks are definitely my downfall at the moment. So hard to stop them sounding so repetitive and boring. This video is a god send to break out of a creative block! Thanks again!
Thanks mate, yeah we all struggle with that al the time!
this was very helpful!
Thank you, glad it was helpful!
Awesome please more of it
will do later this year a video about techno pattern !
Good to hear them Bells in there :)
haha yes, masterpiece
Thank you so much for this channel, this is amazing and exactly what i need! Can you maybe do a tutorial about melodic hard techno like LAVEN?
Great suggestion! I will see !
Laven
I love the Part with the modulation ❤️
that's my favourite part too, I am thinking to do a dedicated video for these non melodic hook technics
@@audioreakt good idea. I will wait for it ☺️.
You can take percussion loop and convert to midi and use it as your lead/melody line.great video as always.
yeah that's a great tips to have a solid rythm !
Do that in hardware I use the same sequence for tb03 and drum machine . Good rythm pitch a bit off some times
Detuned oscillator with +7 sounds totally like Ben Klock’s Subzero :)
That was not a coincidence haha
@@audioreakt Ben Klock does the same 20 years a go, thanks for your inspiration man
excellent stuff mate, thanks!
please, make a tutorial about M4L Rozzer Sequencer
Yes that can be a great idea !
Great tutorial thank you
thanks, glad you liked it !
dude are you the biggest ghost producer? love your stuff, dunno how you can know all that and i struggle to do something you show in a single video
haha no never, I don't like ghostproducing. I've been there too, it took me years to get knowledge...
God I wish this was in Logic as well, but these are all great tips man. Thank you.
Sorry can't help you here, I don't have logic ... Cheers
NICE AGAIN!!!!!
Thank you !
The bells 😻
Haha indeed!
Thank you sooooo much!
You're welcome !
When you accidentally remake Jeff Mills the bells. 😂 Great vid as always.
Haha thanks!
First , I want to thank for your videos . Really great stuff, very helpful!
Would be nice , if you could make more examples of the question answer patterns.😊
All the best for you , keep on going 👍🏻
Thanks, yeah great idea, will do that later this year
@@audioreakt that would be so cool! ♥️
10:11 nice melody
nice stuff
thanks mate !
He knew exactly what he was doing at 10:30 !
caught red hand haha 😂
Hi! the melody that you ask, is the great Jeff Mills - The bells!!
Yes, it is!
Nice one
Thanks !
u r good 🙌
Thanks mate I appreciate !
Thanks 🖤
You're welcome!
Just to let you know, this Cubase user is also enjoying all your tutorials. 👍
cheers mate, be careful you might wanna switch daw if you watch too much of my video haha
@@audioreakt Haha, I've tried it but I'm sticking with Cubase for now. BTW the melody is of course Jeff Mills Bells. I guess not many old guys like me on your channel since no one guessed it ;-)
Such a fantastic channel! Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Im wondering if its possible for you to show how to make retro techno/trance. In particular the Oliver Lieb/LSG sound. Like how to process the percussions, bass & so on to make them sound like he did. (Dirty with alot of "weight") Never heard anyone make better drums then him. For example "The Fade (Oliver Lieb Remix)" and "Peace (Oliver Lieb Remix)". Thanks again! :)
thanks, I will have a look but I a;lready got a pretty heavy schedule
Great video Paul, is there a tutorial for the synth you use at the end for timber?
Thanks the krater rack ? Link is in the description , otherwise it's a preset from my wavetable techno bank 2
What's the name of that sound that is in all techno tracks? It's also in the intro and it's like a sound that goes: " wroooh wroooh wrooh
Danke!
thanks for the support !
The track is Jeff Mills - The Bells ;)
Yes indeed !
master
haha thank you !
Jeff Mills - The Bells ! :)
indeed!
superb content dude! Can you please tell me how to get the synth sound at 4mins 6s ?
here : www.mediafire.com/file/4z3c5isoe91o3s9/AYNIL_ClassicLead(Live11)Dark_melodyvideopreset.adg/file
Holy shit i always thought polymeter was just a super nerdy theory thing for like mathy metal music, no wonder my grooves always sound static. Should have started doing this so long ago
for techno polymeter is essential !
Melody was the Bells!
Yes indeed !
where can i find the operator preset you say it is free in 14:58?
I usually link the thing I mentioned in the lvideo, all link are in the description, anyway here is the link : czcams.com/video/nyos4ErUFaI/video.html
@10.35 sounds like Jeff Mills track “The Bells “
yes that was the one !
Hi, Great videos! where can I find this rack?
which rack? at what time ?
Hey, does anybody know the intro song, would apreciate it if you could help a guy out.
It's a track I made especially for the CZcams channel intro 😅
Hey @all You need is Live, The melody you played is the bells my jeff mills!
Haha yes indeed !
I like melody -- but I'm terrible at it. Very welcome tutorial.
it's hard for everyone, even for experience producer...
The bells!
spot on !
Jeff Mills - The Bells :D
Yes, but unfortunately you're not the first one !
the demonstration on 'Not Melodic' is so sick. Good tutorial, thank you! Do you offer paid tutorials?
Thanks, no I don't do paid tutorial
@@audioreakt When you mention loop length, is this pattern similar to Polyrthyhm (for example 3/4+4/4)?
A bit late, but the melody is from the track "Jeff Mills - The Bells" ?? xD
haha yes indeed
salut paul! c'est guillaume de l'acfa, comment tu vas? dis c'est quoi le rack que tu utilises à 17 min?
mais non, bien et toi ? C'est un preset d'une banque d'ableton que j'ai fait, envois moi un email a audioreakt(@)gmail(.)com, je t'enverrai tout ca!
@@audioreakt ahah beh ça va ça va ! je suis tombé sur ta chaîne par hasard, je ne savais pas du tout que tu faisais ça mais tes tuto son vraiment cool et très bien fait ;) c'est vraiment cool ! 😉
It was from The Bells of Jeff Mills but it was 4 months ago am sure someone already had it :D
Indeed , and indeed someone already mention it haha
Hey I downloaded the Synth rack but I can’t use it’s damaged they say
make sure you got the right version of ableton live, which version you've got ?
@@audioreakt 11 but a cracked version 🥴
Est-ce que ça viens pas de SubZero - Ben Klock ?
La première c'est Jeff Mills the bells, après il y a un autre synthé plus tard dans la vidéo qui est très inspiré de subzero en effet
What is that intro song?
It's a song made especillay for the intro
Hi everyone ! Is live 11 more stable ? Or is still draining cpu power as it was when it was released ?
Personally I never have cpu problem or see any differnece compare to live 10
@@audioreakt Going to try ir then ! Thank you ! Your content is amazing !
10:40 - Jeff Mills - The Bells
Yes !
Where did you get the Sound at 17:45? Whats the Source. Sorry for my Bad Englisch. Stay tuned 👌👍
it comes from this preset bank : audioreakt.com/collections/presets/products/ableton-wavetable-techno-bank-2
@@audioreakt thanks
Bro why the fk 10 is awesome but 11 came with major volume drops? Im using an old 2pre fcrite. Time for an update or is a live 11 suite thing going on
I didn't notice any volume drop between live 10 and live 11, what do you mean by volume drop ?
Jeff mills - The bells 😉
Yes !
10:40 ; Jeff Mills - The Bells, idk if I was first :)
yes thats the one, a bit late though haha
the melody is 'wheres your child' I forget who its by but thats the sample "wheres your child"
no it was jeff mils the bells
Where's your child by Bam Bam also has that line with a TB 303 indeed 👍